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A lawyer for the Army psychiatrist accused in a deadly shooting spree at Fort Hood said Monday he asked investigators not to question his client and expressed doubt that the suspect would be able to get a fair trial, given the widespread attention to the case.

Retired Col. John P. Galligan said he was contacted Monday by Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan’s family and was headed to an Army hospital in San Antonio to meet Hasan.

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Post by Juanita on Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:29 am

Wrapitup wrote:I bet he wished he had been shot to death.
im sure he was expecting to

i dont see any reason why this guy will not get put to death. if they prove insanity, he would end up in solitary confinement for life.
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Post by Wrapitup on Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:15 pm

By MARK SHERMAN, Associated Press Writer Mark Sherman, Associated Press Writer – 36 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Though the suspect in the shooting rampage at Fort Hood could face the death penalty, he will be prosecuted in a military justice system where no one has been executed in nearly a half-century.

Maj. Nidal Hasan, the Army psychiatrist alleged to have killed 13 people at the massive Army installation in Texas last week, might also benefit from protections the military provides defendants that are greater than those offered in civilian federal courts.

"Our military justice system is not bloodthirsty. That's clear," said Eugene R. Fidell, who teaches military law at Yale.

Much about Hasan's case will be decided by a senior Army officer — perhaps Lt. General Robert Cone, Fort Hood's commander — including whether to seek the death penalty and, in the event Hasan is convicted of capital murder, whether to commute a possible death sentence to life in prison.

Before a military execution can be carried out, the president must personally approve.

George W. Bush signed an execution order last year for a former Army cook who was convicted of multiple rapes and murders in the 1980s, but a federal judge has stayed that order to allow for a new round of appeals in federal court. There hasn't been a military execution since 1961, though five men sit on the military's death row at Fort Leavenworth, Kan.

Federal civilian executions also are rare. Three men, including Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, have been killed by lethal injection in federal cases since 2001. Death penalties carried out by states are more common — Tuesday night's execution of John Allen Muhammad in the Washington, D.C., sniper case was Virginia's second of the year.

In the Fort Hood case, Hasan's family has hired a private attorney, John Galligan, although the military also will provide a lawyer at no charge. Galligan said that he and Maj. Christopher E. Martin, Fort Hood's senior defense attorney, spoke with Hasan on Monday and that Hasan had requested a lawyer when first approached by investigators.

Experts in the military justice system said the decision to prosecute Hasan in military court, revealed Monday by officials involved in the investigation, appears clear cut.

The shootings took place on an Army base. The suspect is an Army officer and all but one of those killed also were officers or enlisted personnel. The other person who was killed worked at Fort Hood.

Authorities would have had more reason to take the case to federal court if they had found evidence Hasan acted with the support or training of a terrorist group, but investigators believe he acted alone, without outside direction.

The military system operates under rules that are similar to those in civilian courts. The differences generally give military defendants more rights than their civilian counterparts.

A defendant and his lawyer can be present at the military equivalent of a grand jury hearing, and the lawyer may present evidence and cross-examine witnesses. Lawyers for witnesses and potential defendants are barred from civilian grand juries.

Prosecutors in the military system also turn over many more documents to the defense before trial. "It's very rare that something in the prosecutor's file isn't in the defense file," said Charles Swift, a former Navy defense lawyer who represented Osama bin Laden's one-time driver. "What's taught to prosecutors in military death cases is be overly generous. You'll win on the facts. You don't need to play games. In fact, how you'll lose is to play games."

At trial, Hasan's jury would consist of at least 12 officers of higher rank or seniority than Hasan. "This is a very educated jury," said Duke University law professor Scott Silliman, consisting exclusively of college graduates and possibly including Army generals.

Galligan, Hasan's lawyer, already has suggested that it could be difficult to receive a fair trial at Fort Hood because of the glare of publicity surrounding the bloody attack, the raw emotions of those who work at the base and President Barack Obama's emotional visit to the base Tuesday.

But the military law experts said several factors could ease those concerns. The base's population turns over frequently. In fact, Hasan himself had been there only a short time. "Some of his jurors might be in Iraq or Afghanistan at the moment," Swift said.

If there were problems finding impartial jurors at Fort Hood, the Army could draw them from virtually any Army facility in the United States.

A military jury must be unanimous to convict and sentence a defendant to death. Imposing a life sentence, however, requires only three-fourths of the jury to agree.

Fifteen members of the military have been sentenced to death in the past 25 years. Commanding generals commuted two of those sentences to life in prison and eight others were overturned on appeal.

The president's involvement also sets military death-penalty cases apart. The president can commute any federal death sentence, civilian or military but must personally approve each military execution and sign an order to carry it out.

"That's a political act," Silliman said. "The president of the United States personally approving a death penalty is a political act."

When President Bush signed Ronald Gray's execution order in July 2008, it was the first time a president had done so in 51 years.

In 1957, President Dwight Eisenhower approved the execution of John Bennett, an Army private convicted of raping and attempting to kill an 11-year-old Austrian girl. Bennett was hanged in 1961.

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I will give GWB credit for the above, but that's about it. Why in the hell would a federal judge overrule this? Doesn't the POTUS have the final word?????????????

This ass better get the DP or something is quite wrong with our country!!

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Post by Juanita on Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:43 pm

NikkiinTx wrote:Who gives away all their furniture when they leave for deployment? No one I know. He wasn't preparing for deployment, he was preparing for this nightmare.

my boyfriend said he would do it. when you travel overseas, there isnt much you can do but travel lightly. especially if you dont know how long you will be gone.
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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:20 pm

Fort Hood shooting suspect faces 13 murder charges

02:09 PM CST on Thursday, November 12, 2009
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FORT HOOD – The U.S. Army psychiatrist accused of opening fire on fellow soldiers at a medical processing center here last week faces charges of premeditated murder for the deaths of a dozen soldiers and one civilian

Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan could also face additional military charges for the Nov. 5 attack, said Christopher Grey, a spokesman for the Army's Criminal Investigation Division.

Flanked by the FBI agent, Texas Ranger and an Army CID official leading the investigation, Grey said the formal charges against Hasan are "the first step in the court-martial process."

Officials believe that Hasan was the only gunman "involved in the actual shootings," Grey told reporters at a noon news briefing. He had no appointments, orders or other legitimate reasons to be at the Soldier Readiness Processing Center on the afternoon of the attacks. A multi-agency task force continues to follow a complex array of leads and clues about possible motives for the attack.

Authorities and some soldiers and civilians who knew Hasan have previously said that he was upset about being deployed overseas to a battle zone where the U.S. was fighting Muslims. He is a native of the U.S., born to Palestinian immigrants. Though his parents were not observant, friends and family have said that Hasan became devout after his mother died in 2001. Co-workers at Walter Reed Army Medical Center have said that he was aggressively critical of U.S. involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan and insistent that Muslims should be allowed to leave military service as conscientious objectors.

"We're looking at every reason for this shooting," Grey said. "We're aggressively following every possible lead."

A dozen of the wounded remain at local hospitals in stable condition, another Army official said Wednesday. One of them is still being treated in an ICU.

Grey said investigators have not yet been able to talk to every victim because of the severity of their injuries.

Grey declined to answer questions, telling reporters that authorities do not want to jeopardize the ongoing probe or the legal case.

The processing center where Hasan drew two pistols, one equipped with a laser sight, and began gunning down soldiers is still sealed off as a giant crime scene, Grey said. Investigators have examined more than 100 cars in nearby parking lots for bullet holes and are still combing the warren of offices, cubicles and open areas of the processing center for evidence. Four adjacent buildings and surrounding land are also being probed for clues, and authorities have "no estimated time line for when the crime scene will be released."

"Please be patient and understand the magnitude and complexity," Grey said.

The 39-year-old psychiatrist allegedly entered the processing center and began firing on unarmed soldiers who were undergoing medical processing for overseas deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan. In addition to the 12 soldiers and civilian contractor killed, 38 people were wounded. It is the deadliest incident at any U.S. military base.

Two civilian police officers who work at Fort Hood responded to reports of a shooting and confronted Hasan. They shot and wounded him four times, and one of the officers was wounded in the melee.

Hasan is still being treated at a military hospital in San Antonio, where he is being held on what Grey described as "pretrial restriction. Officials have said that Hasan has refused to speak to investigators. A retired colonel and Belton lawyer retained by Hasan's family has said he asked that his client not be questioned without a defense attorney present.

Col. John Rossi, a Fort Hood spokesman, told reporters that the base is recovering from what the Army's top general described as "a kick in the gut."

"Today, Fort Hood continues to grieve and heal," he said. "At this time, Fort Hood has gotten its breath back and we continue to move forward."

Base mental health providers have been joined by at least 100 outside mental health specialists to offer soldiers and their families counseling, stress management and other support services. Rossi said every wounded soldier has already received critical-incident stress debriefings, and the mental health efforts have so far resulted in "3,000 individual contacts."

"We're guarding against any premature determination that everything is okay," he said. "This is not only a medical activity. This is a leadership activity."

More than $165,000 in donations have come from around the country to support survivors and families of the dead, Rossi said.

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Post by Wrapitup on Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:36 pm

Lawmaker: Hasan had communications with Pakistan

By ANGELA K. BROWN and SUZANNE GAMBOA, Associated Press Writers Angela K. Brown And Suzanne Gamboa, Associated Press Writers – 2 hrs 38 mins ago

FORT HOOD, Texas – The Army psychiatrist charged with killing 13 people in a shooting spree at Fort Hood made or accepted wire transfers with Pakistan, a country wracked by Muslim extremist violence, a Republican congressman said Friday.

Texas Rep. Michael McCaul, the ranking GOP member of the House Homeland Security Intelligence Subcommittee, said people outside the intelligence community with direct knowledge of the transfers also told him Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan also had communications with Pakistan.

"He may have friends or relatives or whatever and this could be totally (innocent)," McCaul said in a telephone interview. "But if he is wiring money to Pakistan, that could be terrorist financing. If he was receiving money from Pakistan, that is more significant."

McCaul said he does not know the direction of the transfers and communications, only that they passed between Hasan and Pakistan. He said the lack of additional information is why Congress should launch an investigation.

Hasan, 39, was charged Thursday with 13 counts of premeditated murder in a military court, and Army investigators have said he is the only suspect in the case and could face additional charges. His attorney, John Galligan, has said prosecutors have not yet told him whether they plan to seek the death penalty.

A pair of civilian police officers responding to last week's attack, in which 43 people were also injured, including 34 with gunshot wounds, shot Hasan four times. Recovering in the intensive care unit at San Antonio's Brooke Army Medical Center, Hasan has told his attorney he has no feeling in his legs and extreme pain in his hands.

Galligan said doctors have told Hasan he may be permanently paralyzed from the waist down. He called his client's medical condition "extremely serious" and said Hasan didn't flinch when Galligan touched his leg during a meeting Thursday, when one of Hasan's relatives was able to see him for the first time since he was hospitalized.

Hospital spokesman Dewey Mitchell said he could not confirm whether Hasan was paralyzed, since Hasan has directed hospital officials not to release any information about his condition or injuries.

The question of how Hasan spent his Army salary stems from the apparently frugal lifestyle he lived both in the small city of Killeen, Texas, outside of Fort Hood, and in the Washington, D.C., suburbs when stationed at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. In Texas, he lived in a rundown apartment that cost $350 a month and drove a 2006 Honda.

As an Army major with more than 12 years of service, Hasan earns just over $92,000 a year in basic pay and housing and food allowances, according to pay tables from the Defense Finance and Accounting Service. Hasan's gross monthly salary is $6,325.50 a month, or $75,906 annually. He also gets $1,128 a month for a housing allowance and $223 a month for meals, which adds up to another $16,212 a year.

Military psychiatrists may also receive as much as $20,000 a year in incentive pay, according to the tables. But to get the bonus, they must meet certain requirements, such as agreeing to remain on active duty for at least one year after accepting the award. Hasan's Army records are sealed due to the ongoing investigation, and it isn't clear if he was eligible for the bonus or agreed to the conditions.

President Barack Obama has ordered a review of all intelligence related to Hasan and whether the information was properly shared and acted upon within government agencies. Several members of Congress, particularly Michigan Rep. Peter Hoekstra, the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, have also called for a full examination of what agencies knew about Hasan's contacts with a radical Muslim cleric in Yemen and others of concern to the U.S.

Hoekstra confirmed this week that government officials knew about 10 to 20 e-mails between Hasan and the radical imam, beginning in December 2008.

A joint terrorism task force overseen by the FBI learned late last year of Hasan's repeated contact with the cleric, who encouraged Muslims to kill U.S. troops in Iraq. The FBI said the task force did not refer early information about Hasan to superiors because it concluded he wasn't linked to terrorism.

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Post by Wrapitup on Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:56 pm

Levin: May Be More Troubling E-Mails From Hasan

Committee To Investigate How Fort Hood Shooter's E-Mails Were Handled

ANNE GEARAN, Associated Press Writers
POSTED: 6:05 pm EST November 20, 2009
UPDATED: 10:34 pm EST November 20, 2009

WASHINGTON -- There may be additional e-mails that could have tipped off law enforcement or military officials to the Fort Hood shooter before he went on his deadly rampage, the chairman of the Senate Armed Forces Committee said Friday.
The U.S. government intercepted at least 18 e-mails between Hasan and Anwar al-Awlaki, a radical American-born cleric. They were passed along to two Joint Terrorism Task Force cells led by the FBI, but a senior defense official said no one at the Defense Department knew about the messages until after the shootings. The official spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss intelligence procedures.
Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., said after a briefing from Pentagon and Army officials that his committee will investigate how those and other e-mails involving the alleged shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, were handled and why the U.S. military was not made aware of them before the Nov. 5 shooting.
Levin said his committee is focused on determining whether the Defense Department's representative on the terrorism task force acted appropriately and effectively.
Levin also said he considers Hasan's shooting spree, which killed 13 and wounded more than 30, an act of terrorism.
"There are some who are reluctant to call it terrorism but there is significant evidence that is. I'm not at all uneasy saying it sure looks like that," he said.
He said his committee will also look into whether military members have the ability to report suspicious behavior evinced by colleagues.
FBI and military officials have provided differing versions of why Hasan's critical e-mails to al-Awlaki and others did not reach Army investigators before the shooting.
FBI officials have said a military investigator on the task force saw the e-mails and looked up Hasan's record, but finding nothing particularly worrisome, the investigator neither sought nor got permission to pass the e-mails on to other military officials.
But the senior defense official has countered that the rules of the task force prevented that military representative from passing the records on without approval from other members of the task force.
Sen. Joe Lieberman, chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, said it appears there was enough information available to law enforcement, the military and intelligence agencies to raise alarm bells about Hasan but no one connected the dots.
"Had it been gathered on one desk, someone might have said 'Nidal Malik Hasan is dangerous,'" Lieberman, a Connecticut independent, told reporters after the briefing.
The Pentagon may reconsider rules governing participation in extremist organizations that some lawmakers say appear outdated and too narrow in light of the shooting rampage at the Army base in Texas.
Lieberman said Congress may recommend such a review, and a Pentagon spokesman said Friday that the rules could be among the policies scrutinized by a wide-ranging inquiry aimed at preventing another similar attack.
The Pentagon wrote regulations on "dissident and protest activities" in response to soldier participation in skinhead and other racially motivated hate groups. The current rules were written in 1996 and last updated in 2003.
The rules prohibit membership or participation in "organizations that espouse supremacist causes," seek to discriminate based on race, religion or other factors or advocate force or violence. Commanders can investigate and can discipline or fire people who "actively participate in such groups."
The rules also cover the distribution and possession of "printed materials," and gatherings held outside military posts.
The language appears to loosely cover some of the activity law enforcement sources have ascribed to Hasan.
But it is geared toward racially motivated groups and toward preventing public espousal of hateful ideology, such as attendance at a rally or the recruitment of new members. The language also applies most directly to materials and communication in the pre-Internet age.
Defense Secretary Robert Gates announced the 45-day probe on Thursday, the same day that retired Army Gen. John Keane told Congress that the existing rules will probably need revision to cover activity of "Islamic extremists."
Any revision would have to be done carefully to avoid First Amendment violations on the free exercise of speech and religion.
Keane was formerly the No. 2 Army official.
The Pentagon inquiry will get under way in earnest next week.
A senior military official said the inquiry's top leaders will meet with Gates on Monday and are likely to visit Fort Hood on Tuesday. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because plans are not final.

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Post by NiteSpinR on Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:58 pm

It hard for me to understand why the case wouldn't be tried by the Military. He was a military officer on a military base attacking fellow military personnel.
A jury of his peers?
yep are in the military.

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Killeen, Texas (CNN) -- Prosecutors have requested a pretrial confinement hearing for accused Fort Hood shooter Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan in his hospital room on Saturday, Hasan's attorney said on Friday.

Hasan's civilian attorney, retired Army Col. John Galligan, said Hasan's commanders have already placed him in what is considered pretrial confinement. Saturday's hearing is to determine whether that is appropriate.

The Fort Hood Staff Judge Advocate Office confirmed late Friday that a pretrial review of Hasan's confinement was scheduled for Saturday at the Army base. No other details, including the exact time and location, were included.

Galligan said he will argue that the pretrial proceedings are being conducted hastily and without enough consideration of Hasan's medical condition. However, there is no decision pending on removing Hasan from the hospital, Galligan said, adding that no one has told him when Hasan will be discharged and where he might be taken when he is released.

Hasan, a U.S. Army psychiatrist, is accused of killing 13 people and injuring several others in the November 5 shooting at the Fort Hood Army Post near Killeen. He has not pleaded to the charges.

Saturday's hearing is to take place in Hasan's heavily guarded room in the intensive care unit at the Army hospital. Galligan said he would be in attendance, and he expected a government representative and a magistrate to be there as well.

Galligan said his client, who is paralyzed from the waist down, has had coherent conversations with him and understands who Galligan is and the next steps in the legal process. The attorney last met with Hasan on Thursday and said that after an hour, Hasan clearly was fatigued and couldn't continue.

Meanwhile, U.S. Rep. John Carter, whose congressional district includes Fort Hood, has met with victims and commanders at the post. He said victims are telling him that when the shooting started, many of them thought it was some kind of "paintball" drill.

Carter said that, according to the witnesses, Hasan had a laser-sight on a gun that he pointed at the shooting victims.

"Everybody is convinced he was targeting soldiers and not targeting civilians, because some of the civilians said he looked them in the eye, shook his head and passed over them," Carter said.

Asked about Carter's comments, Hasan's attorney said he was saddened by them and called them inflammatory, premature and prejudicial.

Galligan said he has received a military personnel file pertaining to Hasan, but said it has only basic details on where his client went to school and where he received additional training. He said he has not received any classified documents yet, and has not seen the e-mails that investigators said show Hasan corresponding with a radical Muslim cleric.

Galligan said the Army has not responded to his request that his own security clearance be reinstated.

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Post by Juanita on Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:48 am

yeah he should be tried in military court absoluteliy
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Post by CritterFan1 on Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:52 pm

so glad to hear that he will be unable to move anything but his head. Let his last few yrs before his execution be miserable.
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FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) -- The military plans a mental evaluation to determine whether the Army psychiatrist charged with killing 13 people at Fort Hood knew his alleged actions were wrong and whether he's competent to stand trial, his civilian attorney said Tuesday.
(isn't it a little late to check the competency of a trained Army psychiatrist?)
Attorney John Galligan said he received notice Tuesday night from Maj. Nidal Hasan's captain that the military likely will issue a "mental responsibility exam" order Wednesday. The notice did not indicate when or where the exam, which is done by what the military calls a sanity board, will take place, Galligan said.

Hasan has been charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder in the Nov. 5 shooting spree on the Texas post, which left more than two dozen others wounded. Authorities have not said whether they will seek the death penalty.

"Given the magnitude and seriousness of the crimes alleged ... such alleged conduct makes me believe ... that the accused lacks mental responsibility and capacity," Capt. J. Huber wrote in the notice sent to Galligan.

Such an evaluation aims to ascertain whether a suspect had mental responsibility at the time of a crime, which means determining whether a mental illness prevented a suspect from knowing that what he was doing was wrong, according to military law. The exam also would determine if Hasan is competent to stand trial, Galligan said.

The board's determination could affect the charges, defense strategy and how the case proceeds, he said.

But Galligan said the exam is premature because Hasan remains in intensive care at a San Antonio military hospital, recovering from gunshot wounds that left him paralyzed. Military officials also have said Hasan could face other charges, Galligan said.

"They're acting prematurely and showing that this case is not going to go down the normal track," Galligan told The Associated Press from his office near Fort Hood, about 150 miles southwest of Fort Worth. "How and when and where they do the evaluation is problematic too."

Chris Haug, a Fort Hood spokesman, said Tuesday night that he had no information about a mental evaluation for Hasan. He declined further comment, citing the ongoing investigation.

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Post by Nama on Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:14 pm

The MT Hood shooter has been charged with 32 counts of premeditated murder.

32 counts per FOX News

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Post by Wrapitup on Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:13 am

FBI orders independent review after Fort Hood shooting

By Jeremy Pelofsky – Tue Dec 8, 1:02 pm ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – FBI Director Robert Mueller ordered an independent review on Tuesday of how the agency handled information that the military psychiatrist charged in the Fort Hood shooting had communicated with an anti-American cleric in Yemen.
Mueller asked William Webster, the former head of the FBI and CIA as well as a former judge, to conduct the review of the domestic law enforcement agency's actions and policies before the November 5 shooting that killed 13 people.
Questions have been raised about the handling of e-mails the accused shooter, Major Nidal Malik Hasan, sent to the cleric, Anwar al-Awlaki, who has been sympathetic to al Qaeda. They were intercepted by U.S. intelligence agencies and examined by U.S. joint terrorism task forces.

Investigators said last month that Hasan's correspondence, which began in late 2008, was reviewed but did not merit a full investigation because it appeared to be largely consistent with his academic work and offered no hints that he was planning an attack or was following orders from anyone.
The review could be another potential embarrassment for the FBI which, along with U.S. intelligence agencies, took heavy criticism for failing to detect and thwart the September 11, 2001 attacks in New York and Washington.

"Judge Webster is uniquely qualified to undertake this task and look at the procedures and actions involved in this matter," Mueller said in a statement. "It is essential to determine whether there are improvements to our current practices or other authorities that could make us all safer in the future."

The Defense Department has announced its own review of the November 5 shooting on the Texas base where soldiers were preparing to deploy to Afghanistan. Hasan has been charged with 13 counts of murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder.
The FBI said that Webster will coordinate his review with the Defense Department. No timeline was given for Webster's review.

President Barack Obama has said he would accountable those who missed warning signs about Hasan and he was given an initial report about how U.S. intelligence agencies handled information about Hasan last week.
Hasan, a U.S.-born Muslim of Palestinian descent, was paralyzed by gunshots used to subdue him and he is being held at a military hospital in Texas. If convicted, he could face the death penalty.

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SAN ANTONIO, Texas – An attorney for the man charged in the deadly shootings at Fort Hood says the Army has prohibited his client from praying in Arabic with his family.

Attorney John P. Galligan said police stopped a phone conversation between Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan and his brother on Friday because it was not in English. Galligan told the San Antonio Express-News that police at Brooke Army Medical Center refused to let Hasan pray in Arabic.

Galligan says he thinks that's illegal and violation of Hasan's religious rights.

Hasan has been charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder in the Nov. 5 attack.

The military has imposed restrictions requiring Hasan to speak only in English on the phone or with visitors unless an interpreter is present.

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Post by CritterFan1 on Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:13 am

He gave up ALL rights when he murdered innocent lives.
So sorry he cannot pray in Arabic, his victims cannot pray at all.
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Post by Wrapitup on Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:48 am

CritterFan1 wrote:He gave up ALL rights when he murdered innocent lives.
So sorry he cannot pray in Arabic, his victims cannot pray at all.
Amen, Critter. You said it all!!!!!!! ❤

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Post by Marica on Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:55 am

This is one of those situations where I up hold the death penalty 100%. There is no doubt this man killed all of these people. I hope teh military court will give him the death penalty, and Mr. O had darn well better aprove it.
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Post by Wrapitup on Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:48 am

You mean Pres. Obama?? I think he will have no problem with it!

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Washington (CNN) -- An upcoming military review of the Fort Hood, Texas, shootings finds that the alleged shooter, Maj. Nidal Hasan, was promoted despite supervisors' concerns about his extremist views on Islam and odd behavior.

The review also says that a lack of communication between the U.S. military and a terrorism task force did not allow the sharing of information to determine whether he was a terrorist threat months before the shooting.

CNN was told details of the Pentagon review by a U.S. official with direct knowledge of the report. The official did not want to be identified because the report, requested by Defense Secretary Robert Gates, will not be officially released until Thursday.

The Defense Department review, led by former Chief of Naval Operation Adm. Vernon Clark and former Army Secretary Togo West, will recommend the Army and the entire military focus more on looking internally for potential threats among the troops, according to the official.

The review does not look into the reported e-mail communications between Hasan and the radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, who is based in Yemen and also has possible ties to the Christmas Day airline bombing plot. Those ties are being looked at in a separate criminal investigation by the Army.

The publicly released part of the report will not discuss Hasan's actions the day of the shooting at Fort Hood because that, too, is part of the criminal investigation.

In November, Hasan walked into the processing center and began firing his two handguns while standing on a table yelling "Allahu Akbar" ("God is great" in Arabic), killing 13 people before being shot numerous times by base security officers.

Hasan remains in a Brooke Army Medical Hospital in San Antonio, Texas, where he is paralyzed from his wounds. He is charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder.

The review outlines elements of Hasan's behavior that should have triggered supervisors and senior military officials to look more closely at his behavior.

It questions why Hasan was allowed to keep his security clearance after numerous questionable actions that should prevent military members from getting one.

Among those actions: a class presentation where he said the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were a war on Islam and that Islamic law was more powerful than the U.S. Constitution and justified suicide bombing, according to the official.

Questioning the Constitution is grounds for dismissal as an officer, as well as grounds for having a security clearance revoked or not awarded, the official said. Yet Hasan was given the clearance and continued to be promoted afterward.

During his time in Washington, Hasan's religious views became increasingly apparent. He took a trip to Mecca, Saudi Arabia, to take part in the Haj -- a pilgrimage that devout Muslims are expected to do at least once in their lifetimes if they are able.

In July, Hasan reported to his new position as a psychiatrist at Fort Hood. The report says supervisors knew he had poor performance reviews before the move but was posted at the large base because his poor work would not be as noticeable.

The report is expected to show that Hasan's superiors were all able to clearly see in his records that as an officer, medical student and a psychiatrist, Hasan was a repeat poor performer.

He took six years to graduate from medical school instead of the four years it takes most students. He was on academic probation for receiving numerous below average and failing grades between 1997 and 2007 at the Uniformed Services University of Health Sciences in Bethesda, Maryland, according to the official.

After graduation, Hassan began his internship in psychiatry, a four-year program at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington.

Very little changed in his performance reviews, and teachers and supervisors told him of their concerns. He did not see many patients and required monitoring. But the official with knowledge of the review said after being spoken to about his lacking performance, Hasan would focus and improve for a while before slipping back to performing poorly again.

Despite his history of poor grades and performance, Hasan's officer evaluations were strong including the words "satisfactory" and "outstanding." He was promoted to the rank of captain and then major in the standard same time spent in those ranks along with stronger performing colleagues.

Hasan was promoted from captain to major in May, military records show. Because of a shortage of majors in the medical corps, the promotion board was given the authority to promote captains who otherwise would not have been considered for a promotion, according to a U.S. military official who asked not to be identified in connection with discussing personnel matters possibly related to the Hasan investigation.

Hassan was also disciplined for inappropriate conversations with patients about religion.

By 2007, a new supervisor of Hasan's, Maj. Scott Moran, got tough with him. Moran was the director of the psychiatry residency at Walter Reed. He chastised Hasan for not being reachable while on-call and counseled him that his research project about internal conflicts of Muslim soldiers was not a topic appropriate for the program.

Moran also developed a performance-improvement plan for Hasan.

Hasan continued with his presentation regardless of his supervisor's reprimand. The review found the presentation was approved as meeting the residency program requirements despite the reprimand, according to the official with knowledge of the review.

Upon completion of the residency program, Moran wrote a positive reference letter for Hasan, saying he was a competent doctor, according to the official with knowledge of the report.

Hasan then started a two-year fellowship in preventative and disaster psychiatry that he completed in last June, before moving to Fort Hood in July.

In addition to retracing Hasan's history performance as a military psychiatrist, the report will recommend changes for the military.

The military needs to develop new and more precise methods of sharing information on people of concern between the military and intelligence agencies, the report will say.

The report also will recommend a new process for encouraging troops to alert commanders to people of concern instead of the current attitude in many units of a more "boys' club culture" of not turning problem troops in, according to the official. The investigation also recommend ways to overhaul the military performance evaluation system.

The review suggests holding officers accountable for their poor performance reviews, preventing them from moving up the ranks. It also finds supervisors "don't want to rock the boat" and prevent junior officers from getting promoted, the official said.

In a separate aspect of the Hasan case, Hasan's civilian lawyer, John Galligan, told CNN on Tuesday he is frustrated with the "deliberate, intentional actions," by the Army to make it impossible for him to conduct the proper discovery in the case.

"He has a right to proper pretrial procedure," Galligan said.

Galligan said his legal team is hitting some resistance in access to basic information from the military, including the Army's Criminal Investigation Division office not allowing the photocopying of paperwork related to the case. He said he has not encountered that in his 30 years as a lawyer.

He also would like to have the courts-martial moved from Fort Hood for a more fair trial. Because the president, the Army chief of staff and the Fort Hood commander all attended a memorial service there it is not a place, Galligan believes, that Hasan can get a fair trial.

Galligan's access to Hasan has also been limited by the military, he said. He has had trouble seeing him on visits to the hospital. He would also like Hasan moved to a closer medical facility to Fort Hood because traveling between Hood and San Antonio is difficult for his legal team. His requests have gone unanswered, he said.

The military did not return a request for comment.

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An excellent interview with a Christian General, Jerry Boykin on the events at Fort Hood. This is very worth seeing. Many atheists and agnostics relate to much of what this man says.

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Post by NiteSpinR on Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:28 am

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FORT WORTH, Texas -- An attorney says the Army psychiatrist charged in the worst mass shooting on a U.S. military base will soon be moved to a county jail near Fort Hood after four months in a military hospital.
Defense attorney John Galligan says Maj. Nidal Hasan could be moved this week.
Bell County Jail administrator Bob Patterson says Hasan will be housed in a cell at the medical unit.
Patterson said Monday the facility is prepared to handle inmates with special medical needs.
Hasan was taken to a San Antonio military hospital shortly after the Nov. 5 Fort Hood shootings. Civilian police officers shot him during the attack, leaving him paralyzed below the chest.
Hasan faces 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder.
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NiteSpinR wrote:POSTED: Monday, March 1, 2010
Civilian police officers shot Hasan during the attack, leaving him paralyzed below the chest.
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Why was a civilian Police Officer relied upon while on a base surrounded by fire-armed trained soldiers?
Because Military Installations are considered "Gun Free Zones"
That ranks up there on the top ten list of the Craziest shit I've ever heard.

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(ChattahBox)—Senior Sgt. Mark Todd the second Fort Hood Police Officer on the scene of the day of the tragic shooting, has now said in an interview that he was in fact the person responsible for bringing Hasan down and not Sgt. Kimberly D. Munley, as previously reported. This latest news adds to the confusion in the reporting by military officials in the hours and days after the deadly shooting, with initial reports that accused mass murderer Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan was dead and then later reported to be alive.

According to an account published in the NY York Times, Sgt. Todd said he and Sgt. Munley appeared at the scene at the same time in separate vehicles and Hasan was found outside of the processing center. Sgt. Todd shouted, “Police, drop your weapons!” and Hasan immediately fired on the two officers. “Once we took fire, she broke right and I broke left,” said Sgt. Todd.

A witness who asked not to be identified confirmed that Sgt. Todd came upon Hasan reloading his weapon, after just shooting Sgt. Munley and Sgt. Todd shot Hasan several times, before approaching Hasan to kick his weapon away and handcuff him.

Sgt. Todd refused to say how many shots he fired and would not provide the precise positions of himself, Sgt. Munley and Hasan during the encounter, due to the ongoing investigation.

The two police officers appeared together on the “Oprah Winfrey Show” on Wednesday, but they provided few details and they did not disclose who had fired and hit Hasan.

On the Friday after the shooting, Lt. Gen. Bob Cone, Fort Hood’s commanding general, praised Sgt. Munley for her brave actions. Officer Munley is a “trained, active first responder” who acted quickly after she “just happened to encounter the gunman,” said Lt. Gen Cone.

“Really a pretty amazing and aggressive performance by this police officer,” Lt. Gen Cone added. Cone was asked if Sgt. Munley’s shots had brought down the assailant and stopped the deadly rampage. “That’s correct,” Lt. Gen Cone said. “The critical factor here was her quick response to the situation.”

On Tuesday, army spokesman Lt. Col. Lee Packnett, would not confirm that it was Sgt. Todd who shot Major Hasan. “It could have been, but the final outcome will be determined by the results of the ballistics tests.” Colonel Lee said.

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Post by lisette on Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:39 am

Suspect in Deadly Fort Hood Shooting Making First Court Appearance
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FORT HOOD, Texas (AP) — The Army psychiatrist accused of opening fire at Fort Hood, killing 13 and wounding dozens more, was to make his first military courtroom appearance Tuesday as his attorney seeks to delay the case.

Neither Maj. Nidal Hasan nor any witnesses were expected to speak during the hearing, at which military prosecutors and defense attorneys planned to discuss case preparations and other basic matters.

Defense attorney John Galligan said he would seek to delay Hasan's Article 32 hearing, which is similar to a civilian grand jury proceeding in which a judge hears witness testimony to determine whether the case should go to trial. No date has been set, but authorities have said the trial could be held as early as July 1.

Galligan said the Article 32 hearing should not proceed before Oct. 1 because he still needs key documents, including some of Hasan's military records, FBI files on Hasan's alleged contact with a radical Islamic cleric in Yemen months before the shooting, and some government reviews of the shooting rampage.

Officials increased security at the court building Tuesday, blocking off the road to the Lawrence J. Williams Judicial Center, bomb-sniffing dogs searched the parking lot and visitors were screened with hand-held metal detectors. Usually none of those precautions are taken.

Officials say Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan was the gunman behind the deadly shootings at the Fort Hood Army Base in Texas, in which 13 people were killed and 38 others were wounded.
Hasan is awaiting a mental evaluation, which is to be conducted sometime after the Article 32 hearing. A panel of doctors will determine whether Hasan had a severe mental illness at the time of the shooting. If so, the doctors will offer a clinical psychological diagnosis and determine whether it prevented Hasan from knowing his alleged actions were wrong at the time, and if he is competent to stand trial, according to military law.

Prosecutors have not announced if they will seek the death penalty against Hasan, who faces 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder in the worst mass shooting on a U.S. military post.

If convicted, Hasan could be sentenced to death only if the military jurors determine there is an aggravating factor, according to military law. Last month, prosecutors sent a notice to Galligan listing one aggravating factor in the case: that more than one person was killed in the same incident.

Experts have said prosecutors would not send such a notice unless they planned to seek the death penalty.

While Tuesday's hearing is the second for Hasan, it is the first time he will appear in a Fort Hood courtroom. His initial hearing — two weeks after the Nov. 5 shootings — was held in his hospital room at San Antonio's Brooke Army Medical Center. He was paralyzed from the chest down after being wounded that day by military police officers.

Hasan was treated at the San Antonio facility until his April transfer to the Bell County Jail, which houses military suspects for nearby Fort Hood. The military justice system does not have bail for defendants.

Bell County Sheriff Dan Smith has said Hasan would be isolated from other inmates while housed in a 12-by-15-foot cell in the jail infirmary, which he said was well-equipped to handle Hasan's medical needs.

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Washington (CNN) -- A military judge has denied a request to close an upcoming hearing for the man accused of killing 13 people at Fort Hood to media and the public, his attorney said Thursday.

John Galligan, the defense lawyer for Army psychiatrist Maj. Nidal Hasan, said the prosecution opposed the motion to close the Article 32 hearing, which is the military equivalent of a civilian grand jury.

Galligan said he requested the move because of concern about "prejudicial" publicity, which he feels has pervaded coverage of the case already.

"We've had Obama to Oprah weighing in on this case," Galligan said, referring to President Obama and the popular talk show host, Oprah Winfrey.

Hasan has been charged with 13 counts of murder in the November 2009 shootings at the Army base in central Texas. Galligan, a retired colonel with three decades of experience as an Army lawyer, said the Army officers responsible for prosecuting the case have indicated they will seek the death penalty.


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Post by Wrapitup on Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:44 am

Well, I say - too damned bad. Of course Obama has weighed in on this horrific case! That defense attorney knows better but thought he'd give it a shot.

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"Nurses and medics get the [expletive] out here now -- we have soldiers bleeding," Sgt. First Class Maria Guerra recalled herself yelling. "You train for this, you train for this, let's go," she said as civilians and soliders came out of hiding to save their fallen buddies.

Guerra, testifying Tuesday at a military hearing, told how she could still hear shooting outside the building as she secured the doors with her own belt. She saw the shooter, whom she later identified as Army Maj. Nidal Hasan, walking and firing his weapon. She said she recognized Hasan from an argument a week earlier over getting his small pox vaccination.

The building where scores of soldiers were getting immunizations and medical screening prior to shipping out for Afghanistan and Iraq was suddenly dark, the smoke from gunshots obscuring overhead lights.

Guerra said she urged the medical workers to "triage" the wounded, dividing them into groups and separating those who were already dead or too severely wounded to receive treatment.

Moments later came word that the shooter had himself been wounded. "I started yelling 'The shooter is down, they got the shooter,' triage, triage everyone, let's go."

Guerra used a marker to write the letter "D" on the foreheads of the dead and the time of death, urging the medical workers to save the living. "If they are dead, you've got to move on," she recalled yelling to her staff.

The prosecution presented nine more witnesses Tuesday, making a total of 48 since the Article 32 hearing began last week. This evidentiary hearing is a step toward a possible court martial and death penalty for Hasan.

The Army psychiatrist, wearing his usual fleece watchcap, combat fatigues and combat boots, gave no outward sign of hearing the grisly testimony about the shootings. He is accused of killing 13 people and wounding dozens more.

Also Tuesday afternoon prosecutors played a third 911 tape, again with the distinct sounds of rapid gunfire.

At least one spectator in the front row, where relatives of victims sit, wept as the tape was played. And the woman who made the call, Shemaka Hairston, a civilian nurse, broke down on the witness stand as she gave her description of what happened.

"The shooter just came in and started shooing soldiers," she told the emergency operator. "We don't know who he is."

Retired Sgt First Class Ingar Campbell said she told everyone to hit the floor when she heard the first shots. "It was complete chaos in our building ...gunfire and cries of agony," Campbell said.

Guerra said she saw the suspect reload three times before moving in her direction. "He dropped the magazine and up came another one and he reloaded so efficiently, very quickly," she said. She said Hasan was wearing a plastic identification card from the post hospital. "That [expletive] was wearing a badge, he was wearing a badge," she said.

In earlier testimony Tuesday, a witness described the sound of the guman's footsteps.

"Clack, clack, clack" could be heard as the shooter walked down a hallway in the seconds following the rampages, the witness said.

The noise came from shell casings wedged in the tread of the shooter's combat boots, civilian nurse Ted Coukoulis said.

"It was a casual walk," Coukoulis said, comparing the gait to that of someone walking slowly through a mall. "He stopped firing and started walking toward where I was, clack, clack, clack," he said.

The nurse described how the gunman shot and killed three soldiers nearby, as they stared directly at the shooter.

"They were looking at death and they knew it," he said of the three soldiers.

Coukoulis said the gunman then looked at him.

"I was approximately a foot away from the the weapons," Coukoulis testified. "Then he walked casually out of the building." The nurse was not injured.

He explained that he tried to offer first aid to the shooting victims, but he had trouble walking around.

"It was slippery from the blood, the blood clots, the spent ammunition," he said, adding that the pools of blood looked like they had come from a garden soaker hose. "It was everywhere, it was like a horror show."

Coukoulis had had a run-in with Hasan the week before, he told the hearing. He remembered the Army psychiatrist on the day of the shooting because he said Hasan had argued with medical staff a week earlier about a smallpox inoculation, part of the preparations for his deployment to Afghanistan.

The dispute was over whether Hasan had received a flu shot, or flu mist previously, and whether he could get the smallpox shot.

Coukoulis said Hasan was uncooperative and that he referred him to the head nurse.

Coukoulis later identified Hasan as the person he saw shooting people at a crowded Army medical processing center November 5. When asked to identify the gunman, the nurse stood up in the witness box in the small military courtroom at Fort Hood, pointed toward Hasan and said, "He's right there."
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Earlier, in a 9-1-1 tape played in the evidentiary hearing, the panicked voice of registered nurse Kimberly Huseman bore grim news as gun shots were firing behind her.

"Oh my God, we have about 15 down," Huseman said. Gunshots and panicked screams rang out as she spoke.

Huseman dabbed her eyes with a tissue as the eight-minute call was played. Afterward, she told the hearing about what happened before she made that call.

The nurse said she heard a male voice screaming loudly, although she could not make out what he was saying. Another person in her office said to get "down," and they shut the door and called 9-1-1.


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FORT HOOD, Texas (AP) -- Attorneys for the Army psychiatrist charged in the Fort Hood massacre say he offered twice to plead guilty and "accept responsibility" earlier this year.

Maj. Nidal Hasan's attorneys say he even tried to challenge Army rules preventing him from pleading guilty to murder in a death penalty case.

The revelations came before a judge ruled Hasan must be clean-shaven or have his beard forcibly shaved before trial.

Hasan's attorneys were disputing prosecutors' claims that he grew the beard to make it more difficult for witnesses to identify him at his trial.

Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted of 13 counts of premeditated murder, even if he decides to plead guilty to 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder in the 2009 attack on the Texas Army post.


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This degenerate needs to plead guilty. He's going to get the DP anyway, shaven or unshaven. my 2 cents angry

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Post by Wrapitup on Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:11 am

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Judge orders Maj. Nidal Hasan forcibly shaved for court martial

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Col. Gregory Gross, the judge who will oversee the military trial of Maj. Nidal Hasan, ordered the Army psychiatrist to be forcibly shaved for his trial, according to Tyler Broadway, a spokesman at Fort Hood.

The order is likely to trigger an appeal that would further delay the case, which has dragged on now since 2009. WTF

Hasan's attorney had filed an appeal when Gross threatened to order the shaving but the appeals court said it wouldn't issue a decision until the shaving was actually ordered. Thursday's order by Gross opens the door for that appeal.

The last time he was in court, Hasan told the judge, "Your honor, in the name of almighty Allah, I am a Muslim. I believe that my religion requires me to wear a beard."

Gross has said the beard violates Army regulations and Hasan is still an officer in the U.S. Army and subject to regulations.

Hasan's court-martial had been scheduled to start last month at Fort Hood, in Killeen, Texas, where he is accused of killing 13 people and wounding 32.

His lawyers can now go to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces, an independent tribunal with worldwide jurisdiction over active-duty members of the U.S. armed forces and others subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

The District of Columbia-based court is made up of five civilian judges appointed for 15-year terms by the president. Decisions of the court are subject to direct appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court. Such an appeals process could delay Hasan's criminal trial for months if not years.

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Hasan hearing to look at religious law
First grew his beard in June

Updated: Wednesday, 05 Sep 2012, 1:11 PM EDT
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FORT HOOD, Texas (KXAN) -
In continuing back-and-forth efforts in the military trial of Maj. Nidal M. Hasan, a hearing set for this week will examine his resistance to shaving his beard in a religious context.

Hasan is accused in the November 2009 large-scale shooting that killed 13 people. He is charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder in the attack at the Army post.

Col. Gregory Gross, trial judge, has set the next pretrial hearing in the case for 10 a.m. Thursday at the Lawrence J. Williams Judicial Center here.
Pending matters before the court include a hearing to determine whether a federal religious freedom law allows Hasan to wear a beard during his court martial trial.

Hasan recently grew a beard, which violates Army regulations. His attorneys say he won't shave because he's expressing his Muslim faith. However, Hasan abided by Army rules and did not have a beard before the shooting when he was an active member of the military.

Should Gross order that Hasan be forcibly shaved, the defense will have an opportunity to appeal that decision to the Army Court of Criminal Appeals before Hasan will enter his pleas.

Jury selection was due to being on Aug. 20, but the beard issue has interfered with moving ahead in that regard. Hasan first showed up in court sporting the facial hair in June.

Should Gross allow Hasan to keep his beard, Hasan will enter his pleas and the trial would begin shortly thereafter.

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This has Got to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I don't care if this dude's beard is down to his toes, he brutally and in Cold Blood Murdered and he needs to be taken out "fire squad" style!!! NOW!!!angry

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Fort Hood shooting suspect Nidal Hasan appeals beard shaving order

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FORT HOOD, TX (AP) - The Army psychiatrist charged in the deadly 2009 Fort Hood shooting rampage has appealed a military judge's order to have his beard forcibly shaved before his murder trial.

Maj. Nidal Hasan's defense attorneys filed two appeals with the Army Court of Criminal Appeals this week. They say the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act allows Hasan to keep his beard during trial.

Hasan says he grew a beard because his Muslim faith requires it.

The government has until Sept. 28 to file a response. The appeals court has postponed Hasan's murder trial until further notice.

After the court rules, further appeals could be made to the Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces.

Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted in the attack that killed 13 on the Texas Army post.

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Correct me if I am wrong but he shaved his head and his beard when he joined the US military. This is so inane!!! He's more concerned w/his beard than all the innocent people he killed???

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September 24, 2012, 9:12 a.m.

HOUSTON -- Ft. Hood shooting suspect Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan was hospitalized this past weekend at the sprawling Army base about 80 miles north of Austin, Texas, an Army official reported Monday.

Hasan, 42, was hospitalized at the base's Carl R. Darnall Army Medical Center on Saturday, but it was not clear why, Ft. Hood spokesman Chris Haug told the Los Angeles Times on Monday.

[Updated, 9:36 a.m. Sept. 24: Hasan was listed in good condition and was expected to be released within the next 48 hours, a Ft. Hood spokesman said.]

Hasan has been charged with premeditated murder in connection with the killing of 13 people and the wounding of 32 more in a rampage at Ft. Hood on Nov. 5, 2009. He was shot four times in the attack, paralyzing him from the chest down, and now uses a wheelchair.

"His condition is serious," his former attorney, Col. John Galligan, told the San Antonio Express-News. Galligan has complained in the past about the quality of medical care Hasan has received in custody. You've got to be kidding me!!! angry

Galligan did not return calls Monday.

Hasan had been housed at Bell County Jail as he awaited his court-martial. The proceedings were originally scheduled to start this month, but have been delayed by appeals. A spokeswoman for the Bell County Sheriff's Office, which runs the jail, did not return calls Monday.

Hasan and his three attorneys have been fighting efforts by the trial judge to have him shave his full beard before the military trial starts. Hasan, who is Muslim, says that shaving would violate his religious beliefs. The judge and prosecutors maintain that the beard violates Army regulations.

The issue is pending before the U.S. Army Court of Criminal Appeals, which is awaiting filings by military prosecutors this week. Proceedings in Hasan's court-martial have been suspended until the beard issue is resolved.

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He should not receive Any medical care whatsoever. Let him die a slow, painful, miserable death!

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Army: Fort Hood shooting suspect out of hospital
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FORT HOOD, Texas (AP) — An Army psychiatrist charged in a deadly 2009 Fort Hood shooting rampage was returned to jail Wednesday after a brief stay in the hospital, military officials said.
Maj. Nidal Hasan was discharged from the Texas Army post's hospital and returned to the Bell County Jail in nearby Belton, Fort Hood officials said in a news release. The county jail has a contract with Fort Hood to house all of its defendants because the Army post does not have holding facilities. The military justice system does not allow bail for defendants.
Authorities have not said why Hasan was taken to the hospital Saturday, but he was listed in good condition earlier this week.
Hasan, 42, faces the death penalty or life in prison without parole if convicted in the November 2009 attack that left 13 people dead and more than two dozen others wounded.
Hasan is paralyzed from the waist down after police at Fort Hood shot him the day of the rampage.
His former defense attorney, John Galligan, said he believes Hasan was hospitalized over problems related to his incontinence, although he has not spoken to his former client in more than a year. Hasan has had health problems stemming from his catheter, including blood in his urine, about a year ago, Galligan said.
Hasan's trial was set to begin in August, but all court proceedings are on hold over his newly grown beard that violates Army rules. Hasan, who says he grew his beard because his Muslim faith requires it, is appealing the trial judge's order that he must be clean-shaven or be forcibly shaved before the court-martial.
The government has until Friday to respond to Hasan's appeal, and then the Army Court of Criminal Appeals is to rule on the matter.

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WASHINGTON – On the third anniversary of the Fort Hood rampage, 148 victims and family members sued the government Monday for compensation for the attack allegedly carried out by an Army psychiatrist who is awaiting trial.
The shooting at the Army base in Texas killed 13 people and wounded more than two dozen others.

The lawsuit alleging negligence by the government said that the Defense Department is avoiding legal and financial responsibility for the killings by referring to the shootings as "workplace violence" rather than as a terrorist attack.
The group also is suing the estate of Anwar al-Awlaki, a radical U.S.-born Islamic cleric who the victims say inspired the Army psychiatrist, Maj. Nidal Hasan, to carry out the attack. The two men exchanged emails before the shootings.
A year before the attack, the FBI uncovered the communications between Hasan and al-Awlaki, but failed to disclose the information to the Defense Department.


Al-Awlaki was killed in Yemen last year by a U.S. drone strike.

Authorities say Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted.

The victims and families said the U.S. military knew four years before the Nov. 5, 2009, shootings that the accused killer was a fanatic Islamist extremist who supported jihad, suicide attacks and violence.
The lawsuit attributed the government's alleged inaction to elevating "political correctness" over national security.


The lawsuit seeks unspecified compensatory and punitive damages. Last year, 83 of the victims and family members filed administrative claims that sought $750 million in compensation from the Army. Neal Sher, an attorney for the victims, said the government has "ignored these claims and under the law we really have been left with no choice" but to sue.

In a conference call with reporters, former Staff Sgt. Shawn N. Manning, who was shot six times by Hasan, said that the terrorism designation which the victims are seeking would cover the cost of the medical services that he requires. The terrorism designation would mean that the wounds the victims suffered qualify as combat-related, resulting in "a huge difference in benefits," said Manning, who was medically discharged from the military about a month ago.

Manning and Sher spoke during a telephone conference call that linked lawsuit participants from several locations.

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Post by Wrapitup on Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:36 am

Fort Hood shooting: Judge who ordered Maj. Nidal Hasan to shave, thrown off case

December 4, 2012 - 07:19 am

FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) - The military judge who ordered the Fort Hood shooting suspect's beard to be forcibly shaved has been thrown off the case, but the ruling ends lengthy delays in the trial of the Army officer charged with the 2009 rampage that killed 13 people.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces ruled Monday that Col. Gregory Gross did not appear impartial while presiding over the case of Maj. Nidal Hasan. Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted in the 2009 shootings on the Texas Army post that killed 13 people and wounded more than two dozen others.

The court said it was not ruling on whether the judge's order violated Hasan's religious rights. Hasan has argued that his beard is a requirement of his Muslim faith, although facial hair violates Army regulations.

"Should the next military judge find it necessary to address (Hasan's) beard, such issues should be addressed and litigated anew," judges wrote in the ruling.

Fort Hood officials said late Monday that proceedings in the case will resume after a new judge is appointed by the Army's highest legal branch. That indicates Army prosecutors will not appeal Monday's ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Hasan appealed after Gross ordered that he must be clean-shaven or be forcibly shaved before his military trial, which had been set to begin three months ago. It has been on hold pending the appeals.

An Army appeals court upheld the shaving requirement in October. But Monday, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces said the command, not the judge, is responsible for enforcing grooming standards.

Gross had repeatedly said Hasan's beard was a disruption to the court proceedings, but the military appeals court ruled that there was insufficient evidence to show that was true.

Gross found Hasan in contempt of court at six previous pretrial hearings because he was not clean-shaven, then sent him to a nearby trailer to watch the proceedings on a closed-circuit television. The appeals court's ruling also vacated the contempt of court convictions.

At a June hearing, lead defense attorney Lt. Col. Kris Poppe said the judge showed a bias against Hasan when he asked defense attorneys to clean up a court restroom after Gross found a medical waste bag, adult diaper and what appeared to be feces on the floor after a previous hearing. Hasan, who is paralyzed from the waist down after being shot by police the day of the shootings, has to wear adult diapers - but the mess in the restroom that day was mud from a guard's boots, Poppe said.

"In light of these rulings, and the military judge's accusations regarding the latrine, it could reasonably appear to an objective observer that the military judge had allowed the proceedings to become a duel of wills between himself and (Hasan) rather than an adjudication of the serious offenses with which (Hasan) is charged," judges wrote in the ruling.

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Post by raine1953 on Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:34 am

I'm glad that judge was thrown off. Not because I give a **** about that POS and his beard but because maybe it would lead to an appeal of the conviction (if he's convicted) although I have no idea if a military trial can be appealed over the same things. MOO.
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Post by Wrapitup on Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:51 am

I think it's utterly ridiculous this has been dragged on and on due to his beard. FGS!! He had to shave when he was serving our country!!! I feel for the families that lost their loved ones due to this maniac!!

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Post by Wrapitup on Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:06 am

December 18, 2012, 4:23 PM

FORT HOOD, TEXAS The Army psychiatrist charged in the deadly Fort Hood shooting rampage will be allowed to keep his beard during his military trial.

The new judge overseeing Maj. Nidal Hasan's case told Hasan during a Tuesday hearing that the beard is a violation of Army regulations. But the judge, Col. Tara Osborn, said she won't hold it against him.

Hasan answered her questions, saying he grew the beard voluntarily. He previously said his Muslim faith requires it.

Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted in the 2009 rampage that killed 13 and wounded more than two dozen others on the Texas Army post. His trial date hasn't been set.

A military appeals court recently ousted the former judge and tossed his order requiring Hasan to be forcibly shaved before his trial.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces ruled that Col. Gregory Gross didn't appear impartial while presiding over the case of Hasan.

An Army appeals court had upheld the shaving requirement in October. But earlier this month, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces said the command, not the judge, was responsible for enforcing grooming standards. The ruling said that was one example of how Gross did not appear impartial in the case.

Gross had repeatedly said Hasan's beard was a disruption to the court proceedings, but the military appeals court ruled that there was insufficient evidence to show that his beard interfered with the hearings.

Gross found Hasan in contempt of court at six previous pretrial hearings because he was not clean-shaven, then sent him to a nearby trailer to watch the proceedings on a closed-circuit television. The appeals court's ruling also vacated the contempt of court convictions.

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(KCEN) -- The accused Fort Hood shooter trial has been scheduled to start on July 1, 2013.

It has been nearly four years since the shooting happened on post. Maj. Nidal Hasan is accused of opening fire on Fort Hood in November 2009.

Thirteen people were killed and 32 others wounded in the incident.

A pretrial hearing was held on post today where a change of venue request was one of the issues discussed.

A new judge has been brought in to oversee the trial after the first judge assigned, Judge Gregory Gross, was removed because of an appearance of bias.

The case was held up for months because of many issues, including whether or not Hasan would be allowed to wear a beard in court.

Col. Tara Osborn is now the judge overseeing the case.

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The Department of Defense is making it clear: The military opposes awarding Purple Hearts to the victims of the Fort Hood shooting.

A Pentagon position paper, delivered to congressional staff on Friday and obtained by ABC News, says giving the award to the Fort Hood victims could "irrevocably alter the fundamental character of this time-honored decoration" and "undermine the prosecution of Major Nidal Hasan [the alleged Fort Hood shooter] by materially and directly compromising Major Hasan's ability to receive a fair trial."

The Department prepared the paper in response to legislation introduced by Rep. John Carter, (R.-Texas), the Congressman whose district includes Fort Hood. The Fort Hood Families Benefits Protection Act would award both military and civilian casualties of the Fort Hood attack combatant status.

Carter re-introduced the legislation in February in the wake of an ABC News investigation detailing claims by victims that they have been neglected by the military. In a report that aired on "World News with Diane Sawyer" and "Nightline," former police sergeant Kimberly Munley, who helped stop the Ft. Hood shooting, said she felt "betrayed" by President Obama and that he broke a promise to make sure the victims would be well taken care of.

There has been no comment from the White House about Munley's allegations.

Thirteen people were killed, including a pregnant soldier, and 32 others wounded in the Nov. 5, 2009 rampage at the Army base in Killeen, Texas. Hasan now awaits a military trial on charges of premeditated murder and attempted murder. After numerous delays, that trial is now set to begin with jury selection on May 29.

Despite extensive evidence that Hasan was in communication with al Qaeda leader Anwar al-Awlaki prior to the attack, the military has denied the victims a Purple Heart and has treated the incident as "workplace violence" instead of "combat related" or terrorism. Last month, a spokesman for recently appointed Defense Secretary, Chuck Hagel, told ABC News the Department's position had not changed under his leadership.

In a February statement, Rep. Carter said the Fort Hood Families Benefits Protection Act "would award the military and civilian casualties of the 2009 Fort Hood attack the same status that was awarded to the casualties of the Pentagon attack on Sept. 11, 2001. All of the casualties would be eligible for the Purple Heart Award or the Department of Defense civilian equivalent."

In a new statement to ABC News, Carter said, "After additional investigation into the potential implications of pre-trial publicity, I am postponing any future publicity on these bills at this stage of Maj. Hasan's trial. However, the victims of this tragic shooting fully quality for compensation pay and purple heart recognition."

"The DOD position paper is dead wrong to oppose this legislation," Carter said. "These victims deserve recognition and compensation for the injuries and loss of life from a direct attack on a U.S. military installation."

Carter said his aim was not to undermine Hasan's trial, but said he "will not rest until these victims get the recognition they deserve."

Many of the Fort Hood victims also filed a lawsuit against the military alleging the "workplace violence" designation means that in addition to not receiving Purple Hearts, they are receiving lower priority access to medical care as veterans, and a loss of financial benefits available to those whose injuries are classified as "combat related."

The attorney for the victims, Reed Rubinstein, told ABC News, "It's a slap in the face. Given everything that has occurred over the last three and a half years, this is incomprehensible, and in many respects, not worthy of the army. It's regrettable and tremendously wrongheaded."

The position paper says awarding the victims purple hearts "will be viewed as setting the stage for a formal declaration that Major Hasan is a terrorist," and that, in turn, will allow Defense counsel to "argue that Major Hasan cannot receive a fair trial because a branch of government has indirectly declared that Major Hasan is a terrorist – that he is criminally culpable."
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Nevertheless, an expert witness for the prosecution, Evan Kohlmann, has said Hasan meets six factors that indicate someone is a homegrown terrorist. Prosecutors said his testimony would show motive. But defense attorneys have tried to limit Kohlmann's testimony, saying since Hasan isn't charged with terrorism and claiming Kohlmann's testimony would be prejudicial to the military jury.

The position paper also states, "The Government has vigilantly tended to the needs of the victims and their families since the tragic events of November 5, 2009."

Attorney Rubinstein, noting that a majority of the victims have joined the lawsuit alleging precisely the opposite, asked ABC News, "Who are they kidding?"

Army officials declined to comment further for this report, saying they didn't want to jeopardize the case.


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Post by NiteSpinR on Sat May 11, 2013 3:00 am

May 11, 2013

A military judge has refused to delay this month's trial of an Army psychiatrist charged in the deadly 2009 shooting rampage at Fort Hood in Central Texas.

Maj. Nidal Hasan's attorneys on Thursday had sought to delay the court-martial to Sept. 1. They said military jurors might be influenced by recent national media coverage of the Boston Marathon bombings that compared the suspects, two Muslim brothers, to Hasan.

Prosecutors said the delay was unnecessary because Hasan was mentioned only briefly in some news reports about the Boston attacks.

Jury selection in Hasan's trial is to start May 30, with testimony to begin July 1.

Hasan faces the death penalty or life in prison without parole if convicted of 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder.

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Maj. Nidal Hasan faces 13 charges of murder and 32 of attempted murder for the November 2009 shootings at Fort Hood. A Muslim, he has refused a judge's order to shave his beard, though it violates Army regulations. The trial will proceed, however.

Nearly four years after the mass shooting at Fort Hood, Texas, in which 13 people were killed and 32 were wounded, the case against the Army psychiatrist who stands accused of the crimes got to the pleading stage Tuesday.

Maj. Nidal Hasan is charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder. According to reports from Reuters and other news outlets, Hasan refused to enter a plea in a Fort Hood courtroom. So, Col. Tara Osborn — the judge — entered a not guilty plea for him.

At one point in the months leading up to Tuesday's action, Hasan had indicated he might try to plead guilty — at least to the attempted murder charges. But even if he had wanted to, Hassan could not plead guilty to the murder charges. Why? Because prosecutors are pursuing the death penalty for those 13 killings, and :
"A plea of guilty by the accused may not be received to any charge or specification alleging an offense for which the death penalty may be adjudged."
In most civilian courts, a defendant could plead guilty even if the death penalty was at stake. Why is the code of military justice different?

When Congress crafted the code in 1950, lawmakers "did not want to subject a service member to capital punishment unless it was a unanimous decision by 12 jurors," says . He's a professor at Houston's South Texas College of Law who was on active duty in the U.S. Army for 21 years and retired as a lieutenant colonel in the Judge Advocate General's Corps.

"It's such a grave and significant outcome that it wasn't felt the judgment should rely solely on the accused's plea," Corn adds. The prohibition, he says, was also a response to "the pre-Uniform Code of Military Justice perception that 'military justice' was an oxymoron."
John Altenburg, a retired major general who was an Army lawyer for 28 years and served as its deputy judge advocate general from 1997 to 2001, says there's "simply an abundance of caution ... and extreme paternalism" built into the code.

"The major thrust since World War II," Altenburg says, "has been to protect the rights of the individual. ... We're just not going to let somebody plead guilty" in death penalty cases.

While it had been thought that Hasan might say he wanted to plead guilty to the attempted murder charges, it wasn't guaranteed that the judge — Col. Tara Osborn — would have allowed him to do that either. "Military law experts" that they believe she would deny his request and enter a plea of not guilty for him to those charges, as well. The thinking: It might be too difficult for him to get a fair trial on the murder charges if a jury knows he's already pleaded guilty to the lesser counts.

Corn, though, says it would have been unusual for a judge not to allow a guilty plea to lesser charges — if she was convinced, after extensive questioning, that Hasan is aware of what he's doing and has made the decision freely.

Prosecutors are expected to lay out what they say is evidence of Hasan's motivation for the crimes. Hasan, a Muslim, had been in contact with U.S.-born radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki before the shootings. In September 2011, Awlaki was killed by a US drone strike in Yemen.

Experts say the case against Hasan differs substantially from that of Army Staff Sgt. Robert Bales, who and could have faced the death penalty. Prosecutors agreed to a plea deal that avoided going to trial in large part because even though the case against Bales was substantial, "there was little forensic evidence," Altenburg says. According to Muslim tradition, the victims were buried within 24 hours of their deaths.

In addition, Corn says, "the Bales incident was far less calculated" than the Fort Hood killings.

For both reasons, prosecutors decided that they might not have been able to get all 12 jurors to agree that the death penalty was warranted.

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Post by Wrapitup on Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:54 am

He is Guilty w/plenty of witnesses. He makes me SICK!

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Post by NiteSpinR on Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:00 am

Yes Wrap and serving as his own defense counsel he will be allowed to questions those witnesses.
IMO it adds further insult to his U.S. Military and Civilian victims.


He could be the first active-duty U.S. soldier to face the death penalty in a half-century. The last time the military executed one of its own was 1961, when Army Pvt. John Bennett was convicted and hanged for the rape and attempted murder of an 11-year-old girl while stationed in Austria, said Marine Corps Col. Dwight Sullivan, an Air Force appellate defense counsel who has studied military executions. The Navy carried out its last execution in 1849, and the Marine Corps has not executed a Marine since 1817, he said.

I hope the Military's reluctance to hand out a death sentence ends with Hasan. Taxpayers should not be made to foot the bill insuring this man proper medical care for the rest of his natural life.


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