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Post by Nama on Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:35 pm

The Mohler case grinds on in Missouri. For those unfamiliar with it, six men in the Mohler family, Burrell Mohler Senior, and his five sons, have been accused of ritually abusing Burrell’s grandchildren back in the ‘80s.

The memories, we’ve been told, were initially “suppressed” by the 26-year-old woman who came forward with them. She claims that from the age of five to eleven, she was regularly and ritually molested by these men. She claims she was impregnated and forced to have an abortion at the age of eleven, and that the abuse stopped after this.

Her siblings insist the accusations are true, and that she and her sisters wrote down accounts of the abuse while they were children and buried them in jars on the property, as per their abusers’ instructions.

Law enforcement has arrested the accused, even dragging back to Missouri an elderly uncle who’s been living in Florida for the past two decades. The property in question has been dug up. No jars with these written memories have apparently been found.

In fact, we’ve been offered no evidence beyond the accusations. Every now and then I’ll see an excited headline about new “evidence,” and each time that “evidence” turns out to be either another lurid accusation, (They forced two children to help murder a 300 pound man! They made a little girl have sexual contact with a dog! And with a horse! They kept coded lists of murder victims in their Louis L’Amour books!) or something embarrassing but not especially incriminating, like a cache of porn, some of which has been reported to involve incest.

It’s interesting to visit links provided by Kansascity.com, examine the list of what search warrants have uncovered on Mohler property, and compare them with the headlines announcing some of these supposedly incriminating finds. For instance, a single green pamphlet entitled “about the sexual abuse of children” is apparently what prompted the announcement, “Child Incest Pamphlets Found In Search of Mohler Property,” which leaves readers with the impression that a sheaf of pro-incest leaflets had been uncovered.

Under the headline “Evidence Against Mohlers mounts” can be found the announcement that “Also seized were more adult movies, including a pornographic DVD about having sex with ‘Grandma & Grandpa.’” This apparently refers to a VHS listed here (Graphic language). An Internet search on its title seems to indicate that it’s less about incest than about geriatric sex.

This collection of porn is not what one would expect to find in the house of someone who raped his grandchildren until they hit junior high school. The titles revealed in the PDFs of the affidavits (“Senior Stimulation” “Black Dirty Debutantes,” “Virtual Sexuality”) don’t indicate interest in sex with undeveloped girls. It appears to be garden variety dirt involving, at worst, actresses who might be under 17, but are definitely past puberty. And it’s not clear how Burrell Sr’s stash of smut qualifies as mounting evidence that not only he, but his sons (the MohlerS in the headline), were busy raping third graders and murdering occasional adults twenty years ago.

But hey, why should that spoil everyone’s fun? The case has provided an opportunity for people to show off their virtue by rolling around in unrestrained hatred. One blog has speculated about whether this “raping family” carries a “degenerate gene.” Another has referred to the accused as “incestuous hillbillies.” Their religion is being triumphantly cited as if it indicates the accusations are true. Sanctimonious pieces are being written (“Precious years were lost in the Mohler investigation”) that offer token nods to the presumption of innocence, but rely on the presumption of guilt.

And embarrassing questions are going unanswered. Last week a woman surfaced who accused the Mohlers of holding her prisoner in their basement, impregnating her twice, killing one of her infants and burying it in the floor. Where’s the follow up on that? Any infant bones found in that basement? What’s this woman’s story, and can anyone verify that she dropped out of sight long enough to get pregnant twice? What about the jars of notes that were supposedly buried all over the Mohler property? What about the claim about people being murdered by the Mohlers?

The stories we’re hearing should have left behind some level of physical evidence – long-buried jars of notes, dead bodies, scars, etc. But instead of actual human remains, or medical evidence, or even verifiable accounts of disappearances in the area, we’ve gotten convoluted stories. Stolen jewelry from murder victims was kept in wooden boxes, we’ve been told, and coded lists of victims were tucked into copies of popular novels. It’s as if someone, faced with a dearth of evidence, is trying to make objects that they know are owned by the accused seem significant and damning.

So far all we’ve learned for sure is that Burrell Mohler Sr. had a collection of pornography.

This isn’t shaping up into a convincing case of child abuse and murder. It’s shaping up into a long-simmering family feud of estranged relatives and angry exes that’s escalating into a public tragedy.

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Post by TerryRose on Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:17 pm

An old adage says "Where there is smoke there is fire". Something is clearly amiss in this family relationship and there are too many accusations from different people to think that this is all made up. Hopefully, there is a very thorough investigation by the authorities to answer some of the above questions, for example, the girl held prisoner for 2 pregnancies and the one forced to have an abortion. There should be leads there. However, in regard to planted jars and records in books and a baby in a basement, that can only be adults "gaming" the kids---showing them that you keep records, then destroying them, having them plant the jars and dig them back up after nightfall. I don't agree with repressed memories very often as gospel, but, in this case, there are far too many people coming forward with the same kind of stories. Where there is smoke there is fire, JMO.
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Post by Nama on Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:22 pm

One of six family members accused of sex crimes with relatives posted bond on Wednesday and was released from jail.

David A. Mohler, 52, of Lamoni, Iowa, posted a $70,000 cash bond shortly before 5 p.m. He is scheduled to appear in court again on Thursday.

David Mohler, his father and his three brothers were charged with several felonies, including forcible sodomy, rape with a child younger than 12 and use of a child in a sexual performance.

David Mohler is the first in his family to post bond and be released.

His attorney, George Jones, said they're looking forward to trying the case in a court of law and not in the media.

A few hours after David Mohler was released, his uncle, Darrel Wayne Mohler, 72, of Silver Springs, Fla., was transferred to the jail. Darrel Mohler had fought extradition from Florida.

The four other Mohler men charged in the investigation are Burrell Edward Mohler Sr., 77, of Independence; Burrell Edward Mohler Jr., 53, of Independence; Jared Leroy Mohler, 48, of Columbia; and Roland Neil Mohler, 47, of Bates City.

The alleged sex crimes took place on a rural property near Bates City in the 1980s and 1990s.

The Lafayette County Sheriff's Department said it is still analyzing evidence in the case.

"It isn't over yet … We expect more on this investigation and on other investigations," Sheriff Kerrick Alumbaugh told KMBC's Jim Flink.

Alumbaugh said the Mohler case has spurred investigations in other jurisdictions.

More of the suspects are scheduled to appear in court on Thursday.

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Post by Nama on Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:18 am

Jared Mohler, one of six men from the same family accused of graphic child sex abuse, waived his right to a preliminary hearing on Wednesday.

Mohler, 48, appeared in Lafayette County Court, having been charged with one count of forcible rape, sodomy, two counts of using a child in a sexual performance, and two counts of rape.

A judge accepted the Columbia, Mo., man’s right to waive a preliminary hearing and was bound over on the charges. A preliminary hearing determines if there’s enough probable cause through evidence to continue a case and to incarcerate the defendant.

His next court appearance is scheduled for Jan. 4, when he will be arraigned.

The judge set Mohler’s bond at $50,000 cash only with special conditions like no drug or alcohol use or contact with anyone under age 17.

He is being held at Lafayette County Jail.

Six of the Mohler men are charged with sexual assault of children relatives. They are Burrell Mohler Sr., Burrell Mohler Jr., Roland Mohler, Jared Mohler, David Mohler and Darrel Mohler.

Burrell Mohler Sr. is the father of Burrell Jr., Roland, Jared and David. Darrel Mohler is Burrell Sr.’s brother.

The abuse happened in the late 1980s on the family’s rural farm in Bates City. The victims claim they were raped and sodomized along with being forced to marry some of the men in “mock wedding” ceremonies. Also, they were forced to have sex with a horse and a German shepherd.

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Post by Nama on Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:17 pm

Three Mohler men accused of horrific sex crimes against young children were in court Thursday. Burrell Ed Mohler, Jr., Roland Mohler and Darrell Mohler all made an appearance in Lafayette County court on Thursday.

Darrell Mohler arrived in Lafayette County Wednesday night from Florida and made his first appearance on Thursday where he entered a not guilty plea. His bond is set at $40,000 and his next appearance is January 22.

Ed Mohler, Jr. is the father of the girls and boy who made the accusations. He has no attorney and has not filled out the paperwork to see if he can get a public defender. He will not be able to make a plea until he has done that and he will be back in court on December 15.

Roland Mohler entered a not guilty plea and does not qualify for a public defender because he has assets in land. He does not have another court date set since he does not have an attorney.

About 10 family members watched the courtroom proceedings.

"I hope they're exonerated," said Ron Gamble, Burrell Sr.'s brother-in-law. "But we hope the truth will come out, whatever that is. That's the way it has to be. Like I said before, in this country you're innocent until proven guilty. So far, they haven't proved it."

Burrell Mohler, Sr. did not appear in court on Thursday, but he does have an attorney. His attorney was unable to make it on Thursday and his next court date is January 12.

David Mohler, who's been in jail since November 10, bonded out on Wednesday afternoon. His attorney's law firm in Iowa posted the $70,000 bond. His lawyer George B. Jones said his client won't be talking.

"My client doesn't have a statement, we are looking forward to proving his innocence in the courtroom, not in the media," Jones said.

Jared Mohler made a brief appearance in court Wednesday morning with his attorney.

Burrell Mohler Sr., his four sons and his brother are accused of sex crimes against children that date back to the 1980s. Court records also show that relatives of the men accuse them of committing murders and then making great efforts to conceal the crimes.

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Post by frogs on Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:51 pm

"My client doesn't have a statement, we are looking forward to proving his innocence in the courtroom, not in the media," Jones said.
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This sounds exactly like something Jose Baez says and we all know his client is guilty as sin.
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Post by Nama on Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:18 am

Frogs,
Another 'Aha' Moment! :lol!:

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Post by Nama on Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:40 am

Three of the Mohler men, accused of graphic sexual abuse of their own young relatives, faced judges Thursday morning in Lafayette County court.

Burrell Mohler Jr., Roland Mohler and Darrel Mohler appeared in court.

Burrell Mohler Jr. and Roland Mohler do not have lawyers. Their Thursday court appearance was aimed at finding out the status of them attaining legal counsel.

Lafayette County Circuit Judge John Frerking told Burrell and Roland to get legal representation as soon as possible. It’s been nearly a month since the prosecutor has charged the men. Their cases, Frerking said, need to move forward and that cannot happen until they have lawyers.

Burrell Mohler Jr. told the judge he couldn’t afford a lawyer, so the judge proposed he fill out paperwork for a public defender.

Roland said he’s applying for a private lawyer, saying he has too many assets, including land, for public counsel.

“I’m working as hard as I can,” Roland Mohler said of his quest to get legal representation.
The judge also told them about a lawyer referral service offered by the Missouri Bar Association that could help.

Darrel Mohler had his first appearance in Lafayette County court after arriving in Missouri late Wednesday night from Florida, where he was living. His bond was set at $40,000.

Darrel has retained a private attorney, he told the judge. Burrell Mohler Sr. has a lawyer, according to a relative.

Jared Mohler is the only one who has been released on bond. He posted $70,000 cash only bond and was released Wednesday.

Darrel, 72, walked with a noticeable limp as he was escorted into the courtroom.

Roland Mohler smiled repeatedly at his wife and other family members who were sitting in the front row of the courtroom.

The men allegedly committed the crimes on a farm owned by Burrell Mohler Sr. back in the late 1980s and mid-1990s.

Burrell Mohler Sr. is the father of Burrell Jr., Roland, Jared, and David. Darrel Mohler is Burrell Sr.’s brother.

The victims were children of Burrell Mohler Jr. and the grandfather of Mohler Sr.

The alleged victims, now in their late 20s, told authorities, recalling suppressed memories, they were subjected to sex with a horse and German shepherd and “mock” wedding ceremonies where they would marry and then have sex with an uncle.

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Post by Wrapitup on Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:08 am

BJ, the last paragraph was a real eye opener faint - I won't even try to ask about sex w/animals because there is nothing anyone could say that could EVER justify that.

But, WHY would they have "mock" wedding ceremonies? Does that make sex with an uncle okay in their minds?

I seriously think I could be ill. Sassy, hand me one of your nausea pills please!!! Barf

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Post by Nama on Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:42 am

A relative of men charged with unspeakable acts of sexual violence against children said on Thursday he does not think the allegations are “valid” and hopes the men are exonerated.

Ron Gamble of Independence spoke with the media following the court appearance of several members of the Mohler family.



Burrell Mohler Jr., Roland Mohler, and Darrel Mohler were in court Thursday at Lafayette County court. The other three Mohler men are Burrell Mohler Sr., Jared Mohler and David Mohler. All have been charged with multiple counts of molestation of family members decades ago.

Gamble is the brother-in-law of Burrell Mohler Sr., who he’s known since 1951. His sister was Mohler’s ex-wife, who died in 1991.

“I hope they’re exonerated,” he said. “I hope the truth will come out, whatever that is. In this country, you’re innocent until proven guilty. So far, they (authorities) haven’t proven it.”

In those years of knowing Burrell, he saw no signs of abuse, no signs of the graphic allegations authorities say the Mohler men subjected the children to on the rural Bates City farm during the late 1980s.

“She was still at home in the 1980s when this allegedly happened, so if anything had been going on, she would have stopped it quick. She was very religious and straightforward,” Gamble said.

Gamble hasn’t had much contact with Burrell after Gamble’s sister died. And he has not spoken to the alleged victims since they were children.

So are the kids, who are now adults in their late 20s, lying to authorities?

“How do I know?” Gamble answered. “How do you know? Nobody knows.”

“I don’t feel like I can speak for the entire family. We have a large extended family. But for me personally, I don’t think they’re valid,” Gamble said.

None of the other family members, mostly from Roland Mohler’s family, wanted to comment following the court appearances.

“Everybody’s concerned,” Gamble said of the family. “Lots of prayers.”

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Post by Wrapitup on Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:08 pm

Oh, please!! This guy is probably in on it, too!!!!

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Post by CritterFan1 on Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:10 pm

I am sick to my stomach about the horses...having a hard time imagining how that would work to be honest.
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Post by TerryRose on Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:19 pm

With animals, it is hard for me to envision, but then again, I don't even want those images in my mind. Perhaps a veterinarian could explain it, but aren't most animals totally not interested unless provoked by a female of the same species going into heat? They are not like humans, they have their seasons and their reasons, if you know what I mean. Just can't understand this and don't want any answers to it either.
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Post by Wrapitup on Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:24 pm

Terry Rose, I agree :FBI: omg

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Post by frogs on Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:32 pm

Wrapitup wrote:Oh, please!! This guy is probably in on it, too!!!!

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That's exactly what I thought when I saw the picture of this guy! (I know I shouldn't judge a book by it's cover, but......)
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Post by Nama on Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:14 pm

Two brothers among six members of a family accused of more than 50 counts of child sex charges appeared in court Tuesday and said they still don't have attorneys.

The judge in the case has asked the men to get attorneys, but Burrell Mohler Jr. and Roland Mohler are still without representation. The judge said he is frustrated that the case can't move forward. The brothers said they have money to pay for a lawyer, but it is tied up in land that they must sell.

Both men were allowed to talk to family to try to make attempts to sell their land to pay for an attorney.

Family members were in court today. A cousin said he can't believe the allegations.

"Support means I'm here," cousin Dwight Elefson said. "They are family. If anything is wrong, and I don't think it is, let me make myself clear: Family support means to be there and help them in whatever situation they are in."

Roland Mohler also said in court today that he has been treated poorly at the Jackson County Jail. For the last six days he said he was moved to the Jackson County Jail because of a sleep disorder issue. He said a medical piece of equipment necessary to help him isn't available in Lafayette County.

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Post by Nama on Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:17 pm

Burrell Mohler Jr. and Roland Mohler both made appearances in the Lexington, Mo., courthouse. Neither had an attorney with them. Burrell Mohler Jr. had been denied a public defender. His brother, Roland, said he couldn't get the necessary paper work filed and that he had been treated unfairly. The judge then set two new court dates for the men.

Burrell is expected to return to court Tuesday, Dec. 22. As part of the appeal process for a public defender, he is required to have two letter from attorneys saying they would not represent him.

Roland is expected in court again on Tuesday, Dec. 29. The judge granted him two hours to discuss plans to sell his 20 acres of property with his wife, Kathy, in the courtroom. Roland said he did not feel safe at the Jackson County jail where he was taken six days ago because of a sleep disorder. Roland said he's been denied pen and paper and forms that he's requested. He added that it's been made difficult for him to make contact with his wife.

A cousin to the Mohlers said that 101 family members met on Thanksgiving and all stand behind the men.

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Post by laga on Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:19 pm

101 family members???? Who are they and in what fashion do they "stand behind" the men, they believe them innocent of charges or believe charges are innocent???
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Post by Wrapitup on Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:43 pm

There is no way a high powered attorney will take this case pro bono and apparently they own land so they don't qualify for a public defender.

Treated unfairly? What kind of crap is that? After what they did to others they are crying about being treated unfairly. And, I am glad Roland can't sleep. He sure had no problems sleeping all these years after the heinous acts he and his "family" did. I hope none of them sleep or eat. They need to burn IMO. Electric Chair

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Post by TerryRose on Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:54 pm

I agree with everything you have written, Wrap. What galls me is the "support" issue on behalf of other men in the family, pledging their support because they are family. I ask, what about the children that are supposed to be victims?---are they not family that need support also?---or is the support reserved only for the men in the family?
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Post by CritterFan1 on Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:20 pm

How could 101 family members look the other way? It disgusts me, what about the victims from these sick men, who is standing behind them?? crap crap crap
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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:41 pm

I wonder what kinds of lives those 101 members live behind closed doors..
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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:43 pm

Tina wrote:I wonder what kinds of lives those 101 members live behind closed doors..

Not saying they are all in on it, just seems like those men like to keep it in the family
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Post by Wrapitup on Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:48 pm

I think the entire family dynamic is sick, passed down from generation to generation.

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Post by Nama on Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:39 pm

Two of the six Mohler men accused of sex crimes against children in their family were back in Lafayette County court on Tuesday. One wanted a lower bond and the other wanted a court appointed public defender. Each man got what he wanted from the judge.

Prosecutors weren't concerned about one of the decisions, but the other ruling means one suspect could soon post bond and leave Missouri.

Shuffling into court were Burrell Ed Mohler, Jr and his 72-year-old uncle Darrell Mohler, who waved his middle finger at the cameras.

Mohler, Jr told the judge he needs a court appointed attorney even though the public defender's office said he doesn't qualify. We learned he's only been married to his current wife for six months, but when you include her income, the couple makes $2,400 a month over the amount to qualify for a public defender.

Nonetheless the judge granted the motion saying he didn't think it was fair to include the new wife's assets..

As for Darrell Mohler, he told the judge he's not allowed a cane in jail for security reasons or an oxygen machine despite numerous health problems. He asked the judge to turn his $40,000 cash-only bond into a surety bond, so he'd only have to post 10 percent.

That would allow him to go home to Florida with a promise to return for court appearances. The judge agreed despite prosecutor objections.

Darrell Mohler's defense attorney told the court it could be still be a few weeks before his client makes bond.

The Lafayette County Sheriff said Darrell Mohler isn't allowed oxygen in jail because an oxygen test showed he doesn't need it. All of the Mohler suspects are due back in court in January.

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Post by Wrapitup on Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:43 pm

First of all, I am amazed the judge would be so lenient on these obvious sicko's.

And, WHAT?? Darrel doesn't really need oxygen in jail or in the courtroom? Interesting. Seems like I've heard this before! thinking

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Post by TerryRose on Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:45 pm

Clever of them to test the level of oxygen in the old man's blood and determine that he doesn't need it instead of just taking his word for it. They got that right at least, but the rest is debatable as to the bond and release.
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Post by adelacruz on Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:48 am

Wrapitup wrote:First of all, I am amazed the judge would be so lenient on these obvious sicko's.

And, WHAT?? Darrel doesn't really need oxygen in jail or in the courtroom? Interesting. Seems like I've heard this before! thinking

:lol!: :lol!: ;)
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Post by CritterFan1 on Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:01 am

adelacruz wrote:
Wrapitup wrote:First of all, I am amazed the judge would be so lenient on these obvious sicko's.

And, WHAT?? Darrel doesn't really need oxygen in jail or in the courtroom? Interesting. Seems like I've heard this before! thinking

:lol!: :lol!: ;)
I'll second that Adela :lol!:
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Post by truthseeker on Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:37 pm

Boo Hoo.. try on the floor with 40 others.. no pillow no blankets.. He has a nice comfy bed now that he's out eh??

Wrapitup wrote:There is no way a high powered attorney will take this case pro bono and apparently they own land so they don't qualify for a public defender.

Treated unfairly? What kind of crap is that? After what they did to others they are crying about being treated unfairly. And, I am glad Roland can't sleep. He sure had no problems sleeping all these years after the heinous acts he and his "family" did. I hope none of them sleep or eat. They need to burn IMO. Electric Chair
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Post by truthseeker on Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:48 pm

Well, Let me tell ya.. Being raised in an oppressed situation makes you unstable. I love how the victims (found and not or just too afraid) Or the wives .. Really?? you would cover these men with understanding and love.. WOW instead of God or Smith or whoever..? I'm telling ya I'd question everything!!!!!!!!!!
Where are these men now? Where are their wives and children to stand up for them?? And the daughter that ran away her whole life??? Crazy?? I DON"T THINK SO....

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adelacruz wrote:
Wrapitup wrote:First of all, I am amazed the judge would be so lenient on these obvious sicko's.

And, WHAT?? Darrel doesn't really need oxygen in jail or in the courtroom? Interesting. Seems like I've heard this before! thinking

:lol!: :lol!: ;)
I'll second that Adela :lol!:


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Post by Guest on Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:54 pm

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Post by truthseeker on Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:00 pm

Leave it.. ?? right.. didn't they try that.. I'm amazed these men almost all work in some type of "Role" or were carrying some type of badge or had access to SOOO many children.. They say the men weren't involved with children.. Here's a question-Were their wives?? Wives just as opressed as the children.. Women who would rather it be the child and not them.. They swore before God and "their church" they'd do whatever it took to Cover for their abuser .. the term above.. Leave it.. NOT A CHANCE!! It doesn't work.. If these were truly women of God and have any conscience at all would help these children heal.. No matter the expense to themselves.. Then maybe according to the John Smith followers the deed would have been good enough to get you into heaven
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Post by truthseeker on Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:04 pm

darmuehl wrote:Well, Let me tell ya.. Being raised in an oppressed situation makes you unstable. I love how the victims (found and not or just too afraid) Or the wives .. Really?? you would cover these men with understanding and love.. WOW instead of God or Smith or whoever..? I'm telling ya I'd question everything!!!!!!!!!!
Where are these men now? Where are their wives and children to stand up for them?? And the daughter that ran away her whole life??? Crazy?? I DON"T THINK SO....

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adelacruz wrote:
Wrapitup wrote:First of all, I am amazed the judge would be so lenient on these obvious sicko's.

And, WHAT?? Darrel doesn't really need oxygen in jail or in the courtroom? Interesting. Seems like I've heard this before! thinking

:lol!: :lol!: ;)
I'll second that Adela :lol!:
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Post by truthseeker on Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:24 pm


MYOB mind your own business... but when it hits the news it's "Didn't they have family"? "Why didn't anyone call on 'those people'?" "Where are the neighbors?"
The question is always put after the fact.. It always puts the blame on another..
NO ONE minded The Mohler's business either.. Everyone looks the other way.. HMMMMMMmm

Then we call the survivors "crazy" "liar"
I am so beyond fed up with children not having a voice and us women talk and whisper but don't have the boldness to do as Jesus Did and Stand up for the "less than" and stop leavin it up to the Good Samartians of the world.. Stop walking by and "praying for them" DO SOMETHING FOR THEM.. Stop buying all that worldly crap and get these kids OUT!! So what if you can't buy YOU new shoes. I'd rather my children and grand children, neices know I WILL ALWAYS stand UP for them just as Jesus Stands for me.. Between me and my oppressors
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Post by HippyChick2 on Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:38 pm

TerryRose wrote:Clever of them to test the level of oxygen in the old man's blood and determine that he doesn't need it instead of just taking his word for it. They got that right at least, but the rest is debatable as to the bond and release.

It wasn't just clever, they did it because they had to do it. In order for him to get oxygen in jail, the jail would have had to have obtained doctors orders for him to get it there. The jail would have been providing the oxygen (paying for it). They would be required to get a pulse oximeter reading (thing that clamps on the finger) to determine the level of room-air oxygen in his body. I believe its anything 84 or over doesn't require oxygen. It was probably at this point it was determined he did not need oxygen and the jail physician didn't write an order for it, based on those results.

So, halleleuiga (spelled wrong) they did something right for once. :cheering:
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Post by Wrapitup on Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:01 pm

Welcome to VH, darmuehl..you have strong opinions on this and you are so right!!

This is one case that is very, very hard to read. It's truly sickening!!

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