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Post by Guest on Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:54 pm

Theres so many un-answered questions ans rumors still going around. I have heard this week from TN (didnt talk to her myself) thats theres underground tunnels and a underground room where Maire used to live when she was arested for her drug house. This is supose to be where LE found the drugs. i am still searching on this one. Marie was a Sheffield at that time and was not married to Johnny to my understanding and from the searches of addys I have done. Like to know opinions on this one. I am very open minded person and would like to hear everyone thoughts on this. I feel Haleigh is alive and LE has not done there job to find this baby. And where is all the haleighbug money going. IMO on this is someone has Haleigh and the money maybe being sent to take care of her and paying a doctor under the table to give her the care she needs. Doctors are crooked too. All I want to to know that I have helped in finding one child in my lifetime. God Bless Haleigh where ever she is. All this is in my opinion only.
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Post by Wrapitup on Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:30 pm

First of all, i like your avatar. Very unique. When you say "TN" are you talking about Teresa Neves?

Second, you say where Marie used to live. Where was that? In Baker County or Putnum County or somewhere else? Sure, this is a possibility. But, here are my questions:

1) Where specifically is this house with underground tunnels?

2) If you know about this house, wouldn't you think PCSO and the FBI would also know about it?

3) Are you saying Marie and Crystal are keeping Haleigh in some underground tunnel?

4) If so, what would be their motive?

5) What does Johnny Sheffield have to do with this? I did hear Cobra say he does NOT suspect Johnny and I am presuming all have had a poly.

6) I completely agree with you regarding the Haleighbug money and wonder HOW they can have a Haleighbug Center in Baker County when Haleigh was taken from the trailer in Putnum County.

Thanks for the thought provoking post, Praying!

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Post by Guest on Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:51 pm

Wrapitup wrote:First of all, i like your avatar. Very unique. When you say "TN" are you talking about Teresa Neves?

Second, you say where Marie used to live. Where was that? In Baker County or Putnum County or somewhere else? Sure, this is a possibility. But, here are my questions:

1) Where specifically is this house with underground tunnels?

2) If you know about this house, wouldn't you think PCSO and the FBI would also know about it?

3) Are you saying Marie and Crystal are keeping Haleigh in some underground tunnel?

4) If so, what would be their motive?

5) What does Johnny Sheffield have to do with this? I did hear Cobra say he does NOT suspect Johnny and I am presuming all have had a poly.

6) I completely agree with you regarding the Haleighbug money and wonder HOW they can have a Haleighbug Center in Baker County when Haleigh was taken from the trailer in Putnum County.

Thanks for the thought provoking post, Praying!
First of all yes its Teressa N. that i am speaking of.2nd I am still searching for this house or land where this underground tunnel maybe or room. I have been told is the place where maire lived when she got arested for the drugs ans went to jail for a year. I have many addys addys i am looking into.The weekend before the Sam Watkins fundraiser Maire went to KY. and i question why would she go there. As far as a motive i dont know at this point, maybe money, drugs and politics.? About Johnny S, i wouldnt be in his shoes for his socks. Maire says she would not put nothing past him. that is her words not mine. i have sent so many tips in its not even funny. IMO I have always felt that a LE peron had soemthing to do with Haleigh being taken. Cuz theres to much covering up stuff in these families. I dont take sides just Haleighs side and I am just looking for facts. I dont feel its been proven if Misty was home that nite or not and I dont feel its REALLY been proven that Ron was at work all nite either. I have started from the beginning looking at videos and reading just to see if anything has been missed. This circus is getting bigger by the day and sometimes by the hour. The truth will come out but, Haleigh may never come home. ALL this is my opinion only.
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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:32 am

OK, so this is heresay from Teresa Neves? I have seen Marie Griffis' record. I was not aware she did one year's worth of time in prison.

Again, wouldn't the FBI or PCSO have already checked out this house with the tunnels? I have a hard time imagining anyone, much less Haleigh's own grandmother and mother..keeping Haleigh in a tunnel for almost 10 months.

Motive: You say money, drugs and politics? Can you defne in more specific terms what you mean? Whose money? Whose drugs and what politics?

Are you saying that you think it is possible that someone in the PCSO had something to do w/taking Haleigh? If so, did they take her to this tunneled house?

I see you have many theories and they are welcome here but if there is any way you could be a tad more specific, that would be great.

Thanks again for the post. It does make a person think. She has been gone for a long time. Either she is dead or alive. If she is still alive..yes..many things are possible.

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Post by Guest on Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:27 am

Since we have not seen any information on what kind of profit or money the Haleighbug center is bringing in common sense tells me not many people are donating to that organization. There is no way if Crystals family took HaLeigh that they would have left JR. HaLeigh missing has had national attention. No way can someone hide HaLeigh with her medical condition. I am positive Haleigh is no longer alive. So happy to have your here praying. welcome2

I know other members feel like you do that HaLeigh is alive. I just don't happen to be one of them.
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Post by Guest on Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:56 am

Wrapitup wrote:OK, so this is heresay from Teresa Neves? I have seen Marie Griffis' record. I was not aware she did one year's worth of time in prison.

Again, wouldn't the FBI or PCSO have already checked out this house with the tunnels? I have a hard time imagining anyone, much less Haleigh's own grandmother and mother..keeping Haleigh in a tunnel for almost 10 months.

Motive: You say money, drugs and politics? Can you defne in more specific terms what you mean? Whose money? Whose drugs and what politics?

Are you saying that you think it is possible that someone in the PCSO had something to do w/taking Haleigh? If so, did they take her to this tunneled house?

I see you have many theories and they are welcome here but if there is any way you could be a tad more specific, that would be great.

Thanks again for the post. It does make a person think. She has been gone for a long time. Either she is dead or alive. If she is still alive..yes..many things are possible.
No this is not hearsay from Teressa N. This is the truth. She didnt tell me this. She told a friend of mine this and I trust her totally.I have Maires records also.And she spent a year in Jail, makes me wonder how she can drive a school bus now. IMO Haleigh being a girl they have made money of her. I will tell more later.LE knows about tunneled house. Dont know if its been checked out by them or. Prob not, are they doing their job???
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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:54 pm

As a retired PI, unless TN actually told you this herself, it is known as "heresay" and would NEVER hold up in a court of law. Not saying she didn't say it, just letting you know how LE looks at things like that.

Marie was convicted over 10 years ago..since then..she has paid the price and gotten her license back.

Are you saying they are making money off Haleigh because she is a girl similar to what is allegedly going on with the Shanyia Davis case?? I honestly cannot imagine either Marie or Crystal allowing this type of thing to happen.

IF LE knows about the tunneled house, I would bet the have checked it out.

I would still like to know what you meant by "politics".

I look forward to your POV even if we differ. peace

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Post by Juanita on Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:07 pm

I would like to think she is alive yes, although statistics are not in her favor, its not impossible to hide her, as we have seen with recent examples of Jaycee and Smart. Have you or anyone called LE and tipped them off about these underground tunnels?

Afterall folks, her breathing apparatus was never found. if she has a prescription, someone might be getting it for her somehow.
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Post by Guest on Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:10 pm

Question here. Why would Kim P say on BBN radio show that Haleigh is alive and well? I think i heard this with my own ears. Like to hear opinions on this. Thanks
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Post by frogs on Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:39 pm

First of all I'd like to say welcome aboard! (pun intended)

Secondly, while I truly wish Haleigh were alive, I doubt it. But let's assume she is alive. Where has she been for the past 9+ months? Has she been "sold" to pay off a debt of some kind? Is she in hiding because mommy cannot come up with child support payments? (which have since been paid up.) Why wouldn't the person or persons who have her come forward, if for no other reason but to claim the reward money? Why hasn't the family ever really searched for her? Why isn't the family letting us know where all the donations to HBC have gone? How could Ronald get married, if his heart were so broken? Wouldn't he have waited until his little girl came home so she could be the flower girl and share in this joyous occasion?

I just have too many unanswered questions which all cause me to believe Haleigh is with Caylee.
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Post by Guest on Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:48 pm

TY Frogs glad to be here.And I do like to have fun too. I have so many questions also. I do respect everyone opinions. But i still have hope. And back to my question, why would Kim P say this? :D
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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:09 pm

Praying, when did Kim say this and do you have audio of her saying that?? Just an FYI (and I am saying this to all the new members and WELCOME) Please read the rules as I need a link if a member is making a statement such as this.

NOT saying she did not say it..just need it backed up with a link.

Frogs. I agree with you. I would love to think that Haleigh is alive, but we have absolutely NO Proof of that. I think the three (not one, not two but Three!) dogs hitting on the dumpster was pivotal in this case. I do think her body was in that dumpster..if only for a few minutes. I think her body was dumped in the St. John's River which is literally yards from the trailer.

For anyone that has NOT seen this river, it is huge and filled with alligators. MOO!! (My opinion only)! I pray I am wrong.

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Post by Guest on Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:16 pm

Wrapitup wrote:Praying, when did Kim say this and do you have audio of her saying that?? Just an FYI (and I am saying this to all the new members and WELCOME) Please read the rules as I need a link if a member is making a statement such as this.

NOT saying she did not say it..just need it backed up with a link.

Frogs. I agree with you. I would love to think that Haleigh is alive, but we have absolutely NO Proof of that. I think the three (not one, not two but Three!) dogs hitting on the dumpster was pivotal in this case. I do think her body was in that dumpster..if only for a few minutes. I think her body was dumped in the St. John's River which is literally yards from the trailer.

For anyone that has NOT seen this river, it is huge and filled with alligators. MOO!! (My opinion only)! I pray I am wrong.
I will find the radio show link from BBN.
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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:26 pm

Thanks. I wonder..did she say this or write it? Either way, I need a link. Thanks!!!

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Post by Guest on Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:28 pm

Wrapitup wrote:Thanks. I wonder..did she say this or write it? Either way, I need a link. Thanks!!!
I am sorry. Never thought at the time to post a link. Maybe i am not a forum person.
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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:17 pm

Praying4Answers wrote:
Wrapitup wrote:Thanks. I wonder..did she say this or write it? Either way, I need a link. Thanks!!!
I am sorry. Never thought at the time to post a link. Maybe i am not a forum person.
Oh, I think you are doing a great job!! I am only saying that when we make some sort of accusation or say someone like Kim or anyone in the news said something, especially something as compelling as that, I require a link. Hope you understand.

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Post by Guest on Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:19 pm

Wrapitup wrote:
Praying4Answers wrote:
Wrapitup wrote:Thanks. I wonder..did she say this or write it? Either way, I need a link. Thanks!!!
I am sorry. Never thought at the time to post a link. Maybe i am not a forum person.
Oh, I think you are doing a great job!! I am only saying that when we make some sort of accusation or say someone like Kim or anyone in the news said something, especially something as compelling as that, I require a link. Hope you understand.
Sure i do understand. I am still looking for the link.
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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:37 pm

Praying4Answers wrote:
Wrapitup wrote:
Praying4Answers wrote:
Wrapitup wrote:Thanks. I wonder..did she say this or write it? Either way, I need a link. Thanks!!!
I am sorry. Never thought at the time to post a link. Maybe i am not a forum person.
Oh, I think you are doing a great job!! I am only saying that when we make some sort of accusation or say someone like Kim or anyone in the news said something, especially something as compelling as that, I require a link. Hope you understand.
Sure i do understand. I am still looking for the link.
She was on BTR on 5/31. I know this for fact cause I had called in and was still on the line and even asked her some questions. I don't remember if she made that comment then but you may want to look at that one. But really, don't knock yourself out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All is well!! :heart:

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Post by Guest on Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:33 pm

Wrapitup , I cannot find it right now but will keep looking. And It maybe that Kuse said this on the show. I have to find that show to prove this to myself now. :lol!:
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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:51 pm

Praying4Answers wrote:Wrapitup , I cannot find it right now but will keep looking. And It maybe that Kuse said this on the show. I have to find that show to prove this to myself now. :lol!:
LMAO. That is exactly WHY I like a link just for proof of what a high profile person said. Don't go nuts looking for it! head bang

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Post by Guest on Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:18 pm

Well Wrap never did find the link....LOL sorry but I do still feel this baby is alive and happy. Maybe shes better off where she is.IMO
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Post by Wrapitup on Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:52 pm

I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one. I do NOT think she is alive and have not thought she was since 24 hours after she went missing. I pray I am wrong!

I do have a question and I hope you won't take this the wrong way..Hypothetically speaking..say Haleigh is still gone a year from now..will you still believe she is alive?

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Florida Attorney Kim Picazio once possessed knowledge of HaLeigh Cummings’ physical welfare

Simmer said she and Picazio spoke by phone the next day, June 4, 2009. During that conversation, Simmer said, Picazio made statements suggesting she had knowledge HaLeigh Cummings was alive and well. “When I had mentioned HaLeigh, [Kim] says, ‘listen.’ HaLeigh isn’t in Satsuma, and I’ll bet you wherever HaLeigh is, she’s healthy, well fed, and growing.”

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http://www.writeintoaction.com/Story%20Kim%20Picazio%20Knew%20HaLeigh%27s%20Welfare.htm

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Post by Guest on Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:05 pm

BJ in OR wrote:Florida Attorney Kim Picazio once possessed knowledge of HaLeigh Cummings’ physical welfare

Simmer said she and Picazio spoke by phone the next day, June 4, 2009. During that conversation, Simmer said, Picazio made statements suggesting she had knowledge HaLeigh Cummings was alive and well. “When I had mentioned HaLeigh, [Kim] says, ‘listen.’ HaLeigh isn’t in Satsuma, and I’ll bet you wherever HaLeigh is, she’s healthy, well fed, and growing.”

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I had tryed to find the link on this at BBN radio show, but its not there. It was Ksue that stated that Kim P said that Haleigh is alive and well and well fed. And what or how do you feel about Tim H? He does tell the truth and dont put nothing out here thats not the truth imo.
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Post by Wrapitup on Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:14 pm

Again, I have to agree to disagree with you about Tim H.

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Post by Guest on Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:06 pm

Wrapitup wrote:Again, I have to agree to disagree with you about Tim H.
May I ask Why? OR What is it about him that you see diffent. I am open for opinions. TY
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Post by Wrapitup on Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:46 pm

I really don't want to go into details except to say that he is a convicted felon who is also a former junky. I think he is trying his best to start a pile of dog doo and he isn't getting the results he wants. This is my opinion only.

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Post by CritterFan1 on Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:35 am

Isn't it nice in America that we can all agree to disagree???? Personally I believe Tim H. is a little 'out there', he scares me a little.
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Post by Guest on Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:39 am

CritterFan1 wrote:Isn't it nice in America that we can all agree to disagree???? Personally I believe Tim H. is a little 'out there', he scares me a little.
Critter, He scares me to a little. Dont know why.
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Post by Wrapitup on Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:28 pm

Praying4Answers wrote:
CritterFan1 wrote:Isn't it nice in America that we can all agree to disagree???? Personally I believe Tim H. is a little 'out there', he scares me a little.
Critter, He scares me to a little. Dont know why.
Always listen to your gut and those red flags. IMO, he is a nut case trying to have his 15 minutes of fame with his long-winded articles attempting to sue everyone. MOO!!!

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Post by Guest on Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:44 am

Anyone here still think HaLeigh Cummings is alive?
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Post by lisette on Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:12 am

No. If she had really been stolen, this crazy family would never have come up with all these tales about how she had died...They know she is dead.
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Post by CritterFan1 on Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:21 am

Sadly to say, I have known since day one, I could hear it in Misty's voice from her 1st interviews on camera. Poor HaLeigh.
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Post by janie on Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:16 am

I think beautiful little HaLeigh isn't alive. I wish just one of that crazy bunch would tell the truth and show some remorse for what they did to her.
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Post by Nama on Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:35 am

I think Haleigh is gone. Bless her soul.

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Post by TerryRose on Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:36 am

For a whole year, I had retained the hope that Haleigh was alive, but, when LE made the statement that they are confident enough to say she is deceased and now call it a homicide investigation instead of a missing persons investigation, there is no more hope that she is alive in my mind. To retain that hope now would be to think that LE is completely inept at their jobs and they are obviously not. They also are privy to information that we do not have, so regrettably I have to say that she must be deceased.
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Post by Guest on Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:26 am

In the beginning i had hope her mother had somehow snuck her off and she was safe with her mommy and junior would simply soon follow....i dont remember when my mind changed exactly but i do know that i no longer believe shes alive.

I also think that LE has something solid to say shes deceased. DNA on those cinderblocks or rope they found in the water, or bones like being reported.
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Post by cherylz on Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:29 am

No, she is not alive...another innocent robbed of their life.
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Post by mommyof3kids on Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:38 am

crying Sadly, I have always thought she was no longer on this earth and my thoughts are still the same It\\'s Not Fair
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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:47 am

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Post by Heike on Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:08 pm

Sadly, sadly, sadly, no.

Blessings to sweet Haliegh!

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:24 am

Praying 4 Answers, I have never heard of the theory you presented (of Haleigh being held in underground tunnels) until now. Although I find it interesting, I must admit that I find it a bit far-fetched!

Unfortunately, I don't think Haleigh is alive anymore... and I just pray that the truth about what happened to her will soon be revealed!
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