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The remains of a woman who disappeared 22 years ago in northern California have been found after the son of the woman's purported killer guided police to the site where her body was dumped, investigators announced Thursday.
The alleged killer's son told authorities that he watched his father kill 27-year-old Lysandra Marie Turpin in 1988 and that his dad forced him to help dispose of the body, the Humboldt County, California, Sheriff's Office announced.
Ernest Samuel Christie III, who was 16 at the time, told authorities that his now-dead father, Ernest Samuel Christie Jr., made him help dump Turpin's body in a ditch near their home in Fieldbrook, California, about 80 miles south of the Oregon border. Christie said his father forced him to help cover the body with tires, douse it in gasoline and set it on fire, Humboldt County Sheriff Gary Philp said in a statement Thursday.
Christie's dad had held and abused Turpin at his house for several weeks before killing her, Christie told the sheriff's office. She had been reported missing to Humboldt County law enforcement on April 8, 1988.
After Christie supplied the sheriff's office with a map of where the body had been dumped, a team of detectives, evidence technicians, and sheriff's deputies found teeth, clothing and charred bones. A forensic odontologist positively identified the remains as Lysandra Turpin on Wednesday, according to Philp.
Ernest Samuel Christie Jr. died in 2006, according to the sheriff's office. His son, now 38 and living in North Carolina, contacted the sheriff's office in February. He is not facing criminal charges, Philp said.
Christie told authorities that his father had abused other women, once holding a woman prisoner in a hollowed-out redwood tree stump. The woman escaped and declined to report the incident to law enforcement, the sheriff's office said.
Using a description provided by Christie, sheriff's personnel located the stump and found a carpet, plastic jugs, a hypodermic syringe and clothing there, Philp said Thursday.
Christie related other instances of his father -- who he said frequently used methamphetamine -- terrorizing women, Philp said.
Christie told authorities that his dad once took a woman on his fishing boat, tied her up and told her he was going to kill her. The woman managed to escape, and detectives were recently able to find her and corroborate Christie's account, Philp said.

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Post by TerryRose on Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:53 pm

Too bad this evil sick person was allowed to remain free for his entire life, terrorizing women and killing at least one of them. There is hell to pay for him now.
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Post by Wrapitup on Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:32 pm

He lived w/that for 22 years. I wonder how it has affected him.

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Post by NiteSpinR on Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:05 am

Secretly holding onto those memories of his father for 22 years is how it affected him. He surely lived in fear, because he waited until he died to tell his father's secrets.


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Post by Wrapitup on Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:39 pm

NiteSpinR wrote:Secretly holding onto those memories of his father for 22 years is how it affected him. He surely lived in fear, because he waited until he died to tell his father's secrets.
Ernest Samuel Christie Jr. died in 2006, according to the sheriff's office. His son, now 38 and living in North Carolina, contacted the sheriff's office in February. He is not facing criminal charges, Philp said.
He is alive...just don't know how well.

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Post by Wrapitup on Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:12 pm

This story really gets to me. I cannot imagine what the son has gone through mentally and emotionally since this happened. 16 is such a tough age anyway..I feel nothing but empathy for the son. I pray he has gotten counseling.

And, I give him a lot of credit for going to the police. It had to have helped him emotionally. He could have just kept this horrible secret to himself and it would have most likely eaten him up.

My God, this poor man!! crying

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Post by raine1953 on Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:48 pm

OMG what a sad story! I so feel for the son who had to live with this for many long years! I cannot even imagine what this did to him emotionally! Good for him for finally being able to speak about it and contact LE.
The Dad must have been a horribly mean 'Dad' to allow his son to witness these things let alone make him take part in disposing of the body. I'm sure the use of methamphetamines only made the demon in the Father worse. So damn sad.
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Post by ESamChristie on Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:58 pm

After all these years, I feel the weight of what happened, but my emotions are a little blunted. Maybe talking about it would be good for me.

Life is complicated as it is. My story is not easy to tell. At 16, I thought of little else besides survival. When my dad killed Sandy, I remember feeling like my life was over, like, even if I survived, I would never really be an acceptable member of the human race. Life went on. That toxic shame slowly faded into the background.

At 30, I moved across the country and began to have nightmares which forced me to think about Sandy for the first time in years. Maybe the distance away from my dad made me feel safe enough to look within. After he died in 2006, my world began to unravel. Suddenly, I was alone with my thoughts and feelings. The shame reared its ugly head. For a couple of years I went to therapy and wavered between trying to figure out how to interact with people (a seemingly brand new task) and hiding in my closet, plotting my own end. I cried, I shook, I sat with my anger, pain, and shame.

By 2009, I was well past that dark place and beginning to have hope for the future. I had spoken to several therapists and a couple of attorneys about Sandy's death and my long held secrecy. Everyone said to forget it and move on. My own war on shame finally drove me to go forward, despite any potential consequences. I'm thankful I was not tried as an accessory to murder, but I had no assurances going in. Ultimately, going forward did for me what I had expected. Breaking my silence allowed me to see myself as a member of the human race. The secret no longer held sway over my sense of self.

I'm still battling my own demons. The consensus among my mental health professionals seems to be that, given my history, I ought to be in a padded cell, wearing a strait jacket, heavily medicated, and that 24/7.

Eh, I guess there's something to that, but life is complicated. My life included some horrific stuff, but there was more to it than that. How did I survive? I just kept moving forward, day by day.

I'm glad I've come forward. I try to understand the questions I've received about my years of silence. At first, I was angry and defensive. Today, I can talk about any of it, I think. My childhood almost destroyed me, but, as an adult, facing myself in the mirror and doing the hard emotional work of healing have made me stronger than ever.
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Post by Wrapitup on Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:06 pm

ESamChristie, You are an inspiration!! You have walked a horrific walk in your younger years and look at you now. There are no words to tell you how proud I am of you!!

I think that you have and will continue to inspire many, many people. How could you not? You would make a fantastic counselor.

Your post was moving and that is an understatement. You survived the abuse and the emotional pain of this horrific secret and I think, willing to take a chance on ending up behind bars.

Thank you for your membership, I welcome you with open arms!
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Post by raine1953 on Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:50 pm

Welcome to VH ESamChristie! I can't say it any better than Wrap just did but I wanted to say that I agree with every word she just said.
VH is a great group of people in fact we call ourselves a family and you are now part of it. Group Hug
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Post by NiteSpinR on Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:08 pm

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I'm happy you showed up here to so articulately express to us that you are beyond any doubt a survivor.
Over the past several years we have shared the stories about so many victims and although you may not see yourself that way I think you were a victim too. I can't imagine how those experiences with your father must have affected you. Seeking the help of therapist is proof that you've tried hard to be a better man then he was. You are and is shows in the words you chose to share with us. The harm your dad inflicted on others were his crimes NOT YOURS. You can trust that no one here places blame on you for what he did.
Welcome I think you'll like it at VH.
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Post by Praying For Faith on Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:13 pm

Welcome to VH ESamChristie!

I agree with what the others have said. I agree with raine, Wrap said it all and I also agree with her post.

I cannot imagine going through what you have gone through and at 16 years old. Holding that secret in your heart for all of those years. I am glad that you came forward and are also getting help now. I hope for the best for you.


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Post by TerryRose on Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:41 pm

May God be with you and guide you now along the path of healing, ESam.
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Post by ESamChristie on Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:20 am

Oh, I'm so grateful to all of you for your kind words. Posting here was a little frightening for me. I haven't had entirely positive feedback, and wanted to start off as well as possible by giving more information about my journey. I feel understood. Thanks to each of you for that.

I'm totally a victim/survivor. Sandy's murder was just another tragic event in my childhood experience. My dad terrorized me and thoroughly abused me. I grew up with very little room for an independent sense of self, so finding myself and people with whom I feel "at home" has been tricky business.

I want to write a book, but I've had the hardest time writing. I guess I have a lot of fear about how I'll be perceived. Thanks for reading some of my story and for being so encouraging. I want to gain strength from your stories and friendship to tell my story to the public. More and more, I'm seeing how necessary it is and that the whole experience will ultimately be positive beyond what I can imagine.

I'm so happy to be here, to be a part of this community. Thank you again. I don't know how to thank all of you enough.



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Post by Wrapitup on Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:03 am

ESamChristie, I have some questions but don't want to rush you. Is it OK to ask you questions? ❤

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Post by ESamChristie on Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:43 pm

Please ask me questions. This will help me to develop what I want to write about. My perspective is very skewed by my upbringing. Your questions (and thoughts/comments) are useful to me, and I'm happy to answer. its all good
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Post by Wrapitup on Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:37 pm

OK. I hope my questions don't upset you but here they are:

1) Can you tell me about your mom?

2) Did your dad physically abuse you?

3) Do you have any siblings?

4) I know that when a person is raised in an abusive environment, sometimes the abuse carries on. Were you ever abusive to anyone? (Sorry, and please don't answer this if it's too personal or you feel I am overstepping any boundaries).

5) Are you married? Do you have children? If so, do you have a good relationship w/them?

6) How many years were you in therapy? Did you ever have to be inpatient due to the horrific secret you kept for so long?

7) What would be your advice to anyone that has suffered abuse?

Thanks, and again..if any are too personal, I completely understand if you do not feel comfortable answering them. Couple Hugging

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:04 am

So would I!!

Great questions, Nite!

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Post by Slys Hunny on Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:43 am

welcome2 welcome2 welcome2 Group Hug I hope being here will help you in your healing. Im sure ill ask you questions as we go along because like nite im annoying like that too but pretty loveable!
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You are NOT annoying!!!!! Nor is Nite. Just curious..well, nosy..like me. flowerpower

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Post by lisette on Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:05 pm

Welcome to VH ESamChristie!! You have found a warm, accepting site. I hope that you feel comfortable enough here to open up and let all the remaining hurts fly away...(as much as is possible.) If you really want to write a book, I'm sure some publisher would help you get started, maybe give you a co-writer or guidance of some sort. You could probably google "publishers" and get a list with contact info. Then maybe call, email, write, etc. to give them a synopsis of your life's story and what you are interested in doing. What an intriguing story you have to tell...I'm sure there would be a market for it. AND, as someone said before, it would probably be very therapeutic for you as well. Best wishes for a happier future!
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These are difficult questions. I've read the posts. I'm waiting to have a bigger block of time to write something substantial. Bear with me.... Group Hug
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Take as much time as you need!!! Couple Hugging

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Post by ESamChristie on Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:34 pm

Ok, I can start with some easy answers.

My dad never abducted any of the women that he abused when I was around, but I know he had done it in the past. I could write a book just from the stories he told me. I was a safe dumping ground for all his confessions because I was entirely under his control.

My mom.... I always believed the lies. It wasn't until after he died that I started to evaluate the past more analytically. I now believe that he murdered her and sank his boat with her on it to cover up his tracks. I was five when she died. For a brief time, it was just me and dear dad, alone in the country, but I was offered a reprieve within six months of her death. I went to live with my dad's parents while he went on a drug/crime spree. When I was 8, he went to prison for a couple of years. Some of this is addressed in the interview I did with Paula Zahn for On The Case. The episode is titled "Sins of the Father". It's not completely accurate, but, if you can see it, many questions will be answered (and new ones generated).

He got out of prison when I was 12 and the beating began. I was hit every day for several years. Slowly, daily slaps and punches gave way to episodic and more intense beatings. I basically learned to spend every waking moment in a state of high alert, trying to do, say, and even think just exactly what I thought he wanted. This task was difficult because he was crazy. I knew he was mean. It took me many years to reason out that he was a lying sack of shit with a tenuous grip on reality.

When he killed Sandy, I was completely under his control, and, shamefully, thankful that I was getting a small break from taking the beatings myself. Taking abuse was something I had accepted long before. I didn't know the effect it would have on me or the women he let go free.

I'm sorry this post is all over the place. This is why I need to get most of my story into a book.
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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:37 pm

What you have written makes me want to cry. I am So Sorry!

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Post by raine1953 on Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:41 pm

It did make me cry. I am so very sorry you had to live with such a mean man. I am so very sorry he killed your Mother.
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I've spent a lot of years stuffing all of this. Sometimes I cry. It took me a long time to let that happen for fear that once I started I would not be able to recover.

To answer another question, I did spend some time in the hospital after he died. I've had years of therapy. All of that helped, although, i had no idea how hard the journey of healing would be when I began. Sometimes, now, I just cry because it was all so sad.
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Post by raine1953 on Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:56 pm

It IS sad! I cannot imagine how hard this would be on a child! I'm glad you had years of therapy and even spent time in a hospital, you're a survivor and did what you had to do to start working on yourself! I hope you feel very good about that.
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Post by raine1953 on Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:57 pm

I'm sure I saw the show 'Sins of the Father' on Paula Zahn, it's so familiar sounding.
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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:57 pm

Crying is very good for you. Cry all you want. Do NOT hold it in!! And please take your time answering any questions. There is NO PRESSURE here at all. You are in a Very Loving Place.

Would you mind, if you can, posting the link so we can watch the show w/Paula Zahn? I did look for it online but am puter compromised today..just today. :pale: Thanks!!! Big Hug

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I don't know where you can see it online.
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Post by Wrapitup on Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:49 am

I have searched till blue in the face!! It's rare we cannot find an interview somewhere on line, like You Tube. Would love to see it.

What Channel does Paula work for? Discovery???

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Post by raine1953 on Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:20 am

Yes, and the channel is I.D.
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Post by Wrapitup on Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:57 am

OK, I might email them and ask if they can provide a link. Do you mind if we watch it??

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Post by ESamChristie on Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:41 am

Watch away! Sarcasm

I've been told it's a little disturbing, not that this whole story isn't....
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Post by Wrapitup on Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:00 am

A little disturbing is an understatement. Weren't you interviewed? I am confused.

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Post by Wrapitup on Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:52 am

I emailed Discovery ID. I hope they can provide me with a viable link.

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Post by ESamChristie on Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:57 am

Wrapitup, I've heard and read lots of reactions to my story. I've seen people's faces when they see the interview. All of what I see seems so unfamiliar when compared to my own feelings. After living through all of that and then living with the secret for 22 years, the events don't disturb me like they disturb others. My reaction is not necessarily less intense, I'm just not reacting to the same aspects of the story. All of my story is old hat to me, but it's new to you.

Please watch the interview. Keep in mind, though, that it's a very limited presentation and not completely accurate. Oh, I've opened a can of worms now.
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Post by Wrapitup on Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:36 pm

LOL, Nite!!

Sam, I don't think you've opened any cans. We've all come to realize with the Anthony trial that facts are either skewed or limited or both. And, of course..you lived with this your entire life so of course it is "old hat" to you. I get that.

No email yet from Discovery ID. It's usually so easy to find programs online. You wouldn't by chance have a copy of it would you?

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They are still replaying Sins of the Father on ID. I have a copy on disc, but I don't have it uploaded to the internet. Not sure what I'm allowed to do with it.
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I don't see why you can't upload it unless you were told specifically that you can't, but could be wrong.

If you know the next time it w/be on, can you please inform us so we can set our dvr's?? Thanks!

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Post by Guest on Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:53 am

ESamChristie you would have to upload it to youtube or another video hosting site. I wish I could help you with that. I have checked all over the internet for this episode.
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Post by lisette on Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:08 pm

There was an episode called "Sins of the Father" on ID yesterday. I got excited because I thought that I was going to see ESam's story, but it turned out to be an episode of Dateline about a man that killed his two sons. Just to let you know that there is another show by that title out there. ESam's was on Paula Zhan's On the Case, right?
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Yes, On the Case.
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Post by klh0320 on Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:54 pm

I saw this episode just last week on Investigation Discovery ID and I too wanted a copy of the video and the store didn't sell it so I then contacted the station and they say they do not have video to provide. The schedule does not have the show again through March 9th: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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I just sent a reply email to the one I received, requesting them to show it again and asking for the date and time of the next show.

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Thanks, klh0320 - and Welcome!!!

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