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Has anyone posted Joe Overstreet record or checked the sex offender data base? This seems like complete bull to me.

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Post by Cory on Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:56 pm

That's right Mommy. That's what happened in Leah's case. The TV announcer stated that a guy by the name of Bill had been arrested in connection with the disappearance of Leah Freeman ( I believe the night they found her ) and he won a law suit of like $40,000 for something like deflamation of charachter.

I'm not saying this Joe charachter is guilty or not.... just that it isn't a good idea to blurt that out without facts.
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No records found for Joe Overstreet on the national sex offender registry.
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Haleigh search heats up

By Larry Sullivan
Published: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 1:43 AM EDT

SATSUMA - Sheriff's divers searching for Haleigh Cummings on Tuesday apparently recovered items that brought a University of Florida anthropologist to the St. Johns River south of Satsuma.

Cummings was 5 years old when she was reported missing from her home on Feb. 10, 2009.

Tuesday morning saw a dramatic increase in activity in the lingering case with dozens of officers from several law enforcement agencies converging on the Shell Harbour boat ramp in South Putnam. The intensity of the search was similar to how lawmen initially responded to Haleigh's disappearance.

It was clear that investigators expected to find something on Tuesday.

The search was triggered by a tip the Putnam County Sheriff's Office received on Monday, said Lt. Johnny Greenwood, a spokesman for the department.

But authorities were tight-lipped about what the tip specified.

"Due to the sensitivity of this investigation, the name of the person providing the tip and the physical evidence alleged to be in this area will not be released," Greenwood said.

The Shell Harbour camp area was not searched when Haleigh vanished 14 months ago, Greenwood said.

Authorities also refused to say what divers found in the day-long search and whether Haleigh's case has shifted from a missing person investigation to a homicide investigation.

"That is a decision that will be made later," Sheriff Jeff Hardy told reporters gathered at the sheriff's office in Palatka.

Hardy also met privately with Haleigh's family members, including her father, Ronald Cummings, who is jailed on drug charges. The sheriff later described the meeting as "some private conversations."

Officials refused to confirm or deny that possible human remains were recovered Tuesday but did say the search was scheduled to resume today.

About 5 p.m., a truck from the university drove through the checkpoint. The vehicle was from the C.A. Pound Human Identification Laboratory, which the school says provides "forensic anthropology services for medical examiners and coroners."

The lab has been involved in several high-profile cases.

The truck left about 7:30 p.m. and officials did not say whether human bones had been found.

It was mid-morning when local, state and federal officers swarmed over the Shell Harbour neighborhood, which lies between the river and County Road 309. As boats and divers entered the river, detectives interviewed residents and other deputies sealed off the neighborhood. Only law enforcement and people who lived in the neighborhood were allowed in.

Carl Brown, who lives in the neighborhood, said a deputy yelled at him to leave when he walked toward where the search was launched.

"We're taxpayers and we live in the community and we have a right to know what's going on," Brown said. "He screamed at me just like I was a dog."

Authorities also kept boaters from passing through that section of the river, an action that prevented four boats of vacationers from reaching Stegbones Fish Camp after a morning of fishing.

"They were coming back to clean their fish and eat and they can't come back," camp manager Stan Plaisted said.

Bands of rain showers rolled through the area Tuesday, dousing searchers, reporters and the stranded boaters.

As divers worked, other searchers covered the shore with dogs specially trained to find dead bodies and police boats equipped with sonar followed search patterns across the river.

Several containers of items recovered by divers were loaded onto boats and taken to shore.

Visibility was poor in the water, Lt. Ben Allen of the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission said Tuesday night.

"Dark, I mean there's no visibility," he said.

There were unconfirmed reports that the investigation has once more focused on Joe Overstreet, a cousin of Misty Croslin who lives in Tennessee, but was visiting Satsuma when Haleigh disappeared.

Meanwhile, Misty Croslin was brought to the Putnam County in Palatka on Tuesday then returned to the jail in St. Augustine. She did not meet with Haleigh's relatives.

Croslin, her brother Hank Croslin Jr., Ronald Cummings and two others have been jailed on drug charges since January.

Brown, the neighborhood resident said Haleigh's babysitter, Misty Croslin, "used to live two blocks from here" with her parents.

Brown said another resident told him he saw Croslin carrying a trash bag nearby in the days after Haleigh was reported missing.

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lindamarie wrote:No records found for Joe Overstreet on the national sex offender registry.
No records found matching your criteria
Because he was a minor at the time. Those laws need to change. It matters not how young a RSO is. The public needs to know.

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lindamarie wrote:Has anyone posted Joe Overstreet record or checked the sex offender data base? This seems like complete bull to me.
Yes, and I posted his record back a page or two but he was a minor when he sexually offended, so it does not show that. Only what has transpired since he turned 18. Please see other post.

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Post by Wrapitup on Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:14 pm

This is a must-see video about Tommy Croslin and Joe Overstreet and explains a lot! And, I think this is probably Lindsay Croslin's mother (Misty's grandmother) they interviewed. WOW!

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=37403@wtev.web.entriq.net&navCatId=5


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Post by artgal16 on Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:23 pm

There is no doubt it my mind whatsoever that if Misty and her brother had the IQ to think ahead of time that they might accuse their cousin of the crime to save their own worthless hides - two stories that are the same are better than one. The only thing in question is whether they have the brains to have come up with it. How is Joe their cousin exactly?
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How is Joe their cousin exactly?
Mother's side of the family. I think Lindsay Croslin's sister or brother's son is Joe.

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Report: Misty Croslin at search scene for Haleigh Cummings
By Anthony Colarossi and Sarah Lundy, Orlando Sentinel
8:07 p.m. EDT, April 14, 2010

SATSUMA — Putnam County deputy sheriffs and other law-enforcement investigators continued an intense search Wednesday along the shore of the St. Johns River for evidence connected to the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings more than a year ago.

A second day of searching the riverfront yielded no new clues into the 5-year-old's disappearance as rumors and speculation swirled around the case that again has captured national media attention.

Deputies blocked off access along Shell Harbour Road near rural Satsuma while they search an area around a dock at the end of the road.

The only apparent development came when a local television station reported that a woman resembling Misty Croslin was at the search scene in her jail clothes late in the afternoon. The woman — with her hands cuffed — walked onto the dock near where divers searched, video from WKMG-Channel 6 showed.

Putnam County deputies have shut off road and river traffic to where divers are. WKMG took video of the woman, talking to investigators, from its helicopter above the scene.

No one is charged in the disappearance of Haleigh, who was last seen on Feb. 9, 2009, although authorities have said she was abducted.

Croslin, who was married to Haleigh's father at the time the girl disappeared and was the person who reported her missing, is being held on $1.35 million bail on unrelated drug-trafficking charges.

She is the last person to see Haleigh, investigators said.

Deputies released few details about the latest search. They held no news briefings Wednesday despite a significant media presence near the scene, and the Sheriff's Office meekly attempted to dispel a rumor that anyone is in custody related to Haleigh's disappearance.

"Sheriff [Jeff] Hardy wants the citizens of Putnam County and the media to know that this rumor is false," said Sheriff's Office statement from Lt. Johnny Greenwood. "At this point, this search has failed to yield any items of evidentiary value in the case."

Greenwood left the search scene late Wednesday afternoon without addressing the media.

Meanwhile, there appears to be renewed interest in Joseph Overstreet, a cousin of Croslin.

Overstreet was in a dispute with Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, when Cummings accused him of stealing a gun. Overstreet moved back to Antioch, Tenn., after Haleigh disappeared. He was interviewed by detectives and was not called a suspect at that time.

Investigators from Florida interviewed Overstreet with his attorney late Tuesday, Tennessee Bureau of Investigation spokeswoman Kristin Helm said, although that agency is not involved in the case.

At a news conference at his lawyer's Nashville office on Wednesday, Overstreet said Florida authorities interviewed him for 30 minutes on Tuesday night. It was his third interview since Haleigh's disappearance.

He was in north Florida at the time the girl disappeared. He has not been charged with any crime and said he doesn't what happened to the child.

"If I knew who did it, I would go straight and call the cops and tell them who did it," he said.

Sheriff's officials in Florida are not saying why Overstreet was interviewed.

On Wednesday, residents living in the small, riverside community known as Magnolia Bluff, were logged in and out by a deputy when entering and exiting their neighborhood during the ongoing search.

Resident Mark Doughty, 58, said investigators have gone door to door asking residents if they remember seeing a dark-colored minivan — a Town and Country type vehicle — from more than a year ago.

Deputies showed them pictures of the vehicle, he and a friend said, and asked if they recalled suspicious activity at the time.

"That's a long time ago, and we get a lot of traffic," Doughty said. "I'm sorry to see all the activity here because it's normally a nice, quiet neighborhood."

With all the attention focused on the search area, where about 35 homes are located, Doughty said he was happy with the controlled access to the community.

"I'm glad the deputy sheriff is there limiting access. They're doing their job," he said.

The community is ready for a resolution in the 5-year-old girl's disappearance more than a year ago, he said.

"Everybody wants to see closure. They want to know what happened to the little girl," Doughty said.

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Post by Wrapitup on Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:08 pm

Nancy Grace is rude. She actually said "our hearts go out to Teresa Neves and Ronald Cummings tonight". What about poor Crystal Sheffield and Marie Griffis? WTF??

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Post by artgal16 on Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:53 pm

NG seems to really dislike Crystal - maybe she felt she failed her child by leaving her where she was. I dont know but she has always taken Ron's side
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Post by lisette on Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:42 pm

What about how Ron failed his child by keeping her in a drug-infested environment with a drugged-out teenager supposedly taking care of her!? NG makes me Barf
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Post by artgal16 on Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:43 pm

NG is always like that - she always picks a side and then ignores or insults the rest
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Post by lisette on Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:55 pm

Hey, I just had a thought...There was another Joe mentioned earlier in this case...Remember in the letter Nay Nay Prevatt wrote her boyfriend from jail she said that a "Joe Phyco" (I think it was supposed to be Joe Pytco) had sworn to LE that they were all partying that night and that Haleigh had accidentally "eaten" some Oxycontin...But, of course, the grandmother said that Tommy told her it was his cousin Joe, so I guess the other Joe is not the one they're talking about...BTW, isn't this grandmother the mother of LISA Croslin (not Lindsay) and Tina Overstreet? I think Lindsay is Tommy's wife...She has been seen talking to him on jail videos...
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Post by mommyof3kids on Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:28 pm

Brown said another resident told him he saw Croslin carrying a trash bag nearby in the days after Haleigh was reported missing.

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If this witnesses statement is in fact true.. This could explain the hit in the dumpster!!! Maybe Misty threw her in the dumpster but then realized it was to close to home and they would definitely find it sooner then later, so she freaks and takes the bag with HL in it and dumped her in the River? JMO... just pondering thoughts is all..
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Post by TerryRose on Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:39 pm

mommyof3kids wrote:
Brown said another resident told him he saw Croslin carrying a trash bag nearby in the days after Haleigh was reported missing.

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If this witnesses statement is in fact true.. This could explain the hit in the dumpster!!! Maybe Misty threw her in the dumpster but then realized it was to close to home and they would definitely find it sooner then later, so she freaks and takes the bag with HL in it and dumped her in the River? JMO... just pondering thoughts is all..

What I had heard was that a neighbor in the St. John's River area, where Misty once lived, had seen Misty putting something in the trash in that neighborhood, not the neighborhood of the trailer she and Ron were living in. Somebody correct me if my memory is not right on this?
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Post by NiteSpinR on Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:08 am

artgal16 wrote:Apparently this using of cold medicines is growing to knock kids out by younger and immature mothers.
In Mistys case, she had other drugs at her disposal
and shes not the brightest bulb, so its possible she might have given her a half of something and because Haleigh already took medication it might have caused a reaction. It might be that Haleigh started to throw up and had a seizure and died. However, I still think that Misty would have called 911 if that was the case.
Maybe not... if the drugs were Ron's she may have been afraid of getting him in trouble.
Or maybe she didn't call 911, because the person had just left with Haleigh as Ron was getting home at the same time?

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Post by NiteSpinR on Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:08 am

Man ya'll were tearing it up while I was gone, it's hard to know where to start.

*As I recall hearing about cousin Joe (early on) he moved to TN because he had just gotten a new job there. It was implied by the Media that the timing was a total coincidence. We were also told that LE looked for a living Haleigh in TN after sightings of her were reported. Wonder if Joe sat for a lie detector?
Also what side of the family is Joe from?
Croslin has said she does not know what happened to Haleigh but believes "the other side of the family" knows where she is. maybe Misty was referring to the other side of her family and not Ron's as we assumed.

*Do we know what Tommy was driving and if he had someone with him when he went to Ron's that night?

*I remember hearing about the Van being borrowed and when returned it had a long deep scrap down the side. (If I'm not mistaken it was Tommy that borrowed the van and it was Joe's wife talking about the scrap? I may be wrong so don't quote me on that.)

* I also remember hearing that Misty and Ron were mad at each other at the time. Anything can happen with or without your knowledge, when you're mad, drugged up and sleep deprived.

*Again I maybe wrong, but isn't the area that is being (re)searched right now the same place the secret Marijuana crop was growing? If so then that might be why it was Joe's favorite place to fish!

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Post by Guest on Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:10 am

I'm kind of late posting here, but I watched NG yesterday (April 14), and she was talking about LE searching the RIVER, not a lake. Also, she talked about them finding something resembling a cooler. Does anyone have more info on this? I'm wondering if Hayleigh's body might be inside the cooler! thinking
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Post by NiteSpinR on Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:29 am

To those of you wondering what particular items they might be searching for in the murky water here are some pictures of what I think it could be.
(the gold chain around Haleigh's neck)







I have little faith in the character of the people involved in Haleigh's disappearance. With that being said I find it hard to believe that they would throw away a gold chain with her body.
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lisette wrote:Hey, I just had a thought...There was another Joe mentioned earlier in this case...Remember in the letter Nay Nay Prevatt wrote her boyfriend from jail she said that a "Joe Phyco" (I think it was supposed to be Joe Pytco) had sworn to LE that they were all partying that night and that Haleigh had accidentally "eaten" some Oxycontin...But, of course, the grandmother said that Tommy told her it was his cousin Joe, so I guess the other Joe is not the one they're talking about...BTW, isn't this grandmother the mother of LISA Croslin (not Lindsay) and Tina Overstreet? I think Lindsay is Tommy's wife...She has been seen talking to him on jail videos...
Yes, I remember Nay Nay referring to this Joe Pytco as her boyfriend. And Yes, you are Correct. LISA Croslin is Misty's mom. I get them confused because they all start w/"L". Lindsay is Tommy's wife..and has changed her name on her Myspace account back to her maiden name of Collins.

Also, IF Tommy told his grandmother that Joe Overstreet did it, I believe they tape phone conversations in jail. We all know they do in the Orange County, FL jail. Therefore, LE would have heard this conversation if it is fact.

Rainbow: It is NOT a lake. It's the St. John's River which is massive.

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*Do we know what Tommy was driving and if he had someone with him when he went to Ron's that night? He didn't drive as he lived close by. Not sure if he was alone or not.

*I remember hearing about the Van being borrowed and when returned it had a long deep scrap down the side. (If I'm not mistaken it was Tommy that borrowed the van and it was Joe's wife talking about the scrap? I may be wrong so don't quote me on that.) We don't know who borrowed the van. The van belonged to Timmy Croslin's wife who said she Knows she didn't park it the way she found it the next morning. Joe has not wife. He lives in TN w/his mommy.

* I also remember hearing that Misty and Ron were mad at each other at the time. Anything can happen with or without your knowledge, when you're mad, drugged up and sleep deprived. I completely agree and think something happened to Haleigh due to this scenario.

*Again I maybe wrong, but isn't the area that is being (re)searched right now the same place the secret Marijuana crop was growing? If so then that might be why it was Joe's favorite place to fish!
No, it is NOT the same place. But it was Ron's fave place to fish.

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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:20 am

Underwater search is no easy task

By Lise Fisher
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Published: Thursday, April 15, 2010 at 6:01 a.m.
Last Modified: Thursday, April 15, 2010 at 1:30 a.m.

A water search is difficult for investigators, who must contend with visibility problems and safety issues as they hunt for clues underwater, an officer with the Alachua County Sheriff's Office said.

Capt. Don Tyson was in charge of that law enforcement agency's dive team for more than 25 years. During his time with the team, it searched for drowning victims and evidence as small as shell casings.

Tyson and the local Sheriff's Office are not involved in the ongoing search in the Haleigh Cummings case. Several North Florida agencies - including the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission and underwater searchers from sheriff's offices in Clay and Duval counties - are participating in the hunt.

Investigators have not said what they are searching for in the St. Johns River near Shell Harbour Road, about five miles south of Haleigh's Satsuma home.

Tyson called a water search more difficult than one on land. Searchers may use sonar to try and look for certain areas to concentrate the hunt and then conduct a grid-by-grid search of the location.

"We build in a lot of overlap in our searching" so divers still can locate even a small piece of evidence, he said.

The natural decomposition of a body in the water adds to problems in locating human remains in a waterway. Add in the impact of marine life and boating traffic and the problems intensify.

"It's a very, very difficult task to try and find remains," Tyson said.

A water search is difficult for investigators, who must contend with visibility problems and safety issues as they hunt for clues underwater, an officer with the Alachua County Sheriff's Office said.

Capt. Don Tyson was in charge of that law enforcement agency's dive team for more than 25 years. During his time with the team, it searched for drowning victims and evidence as small as shell casings.

Tyson and the local Sheriff's Office are not involved in the ongoing search in the Haleigh Cummings case. Several North Florida agencies - including the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission and underwater searchers from sheriff's offices in Clay and Duval counties - are participating in the hunt.

Investigators have not said what they are searching for in the St. Johns River near Shell Harbour Road, about five miles south of Haleigh's Satsuma home.

Tyson called a water search more difficult than one on land. Searchers may use sonar to try and look for certain areas to concentrate the hunt and then conduct a grid-by-grid search of the location.

"We build in a lot of overlap in our searching" so divers still can locate even a small piece of evidence, he said.

The natural decomposition of a body in the water adds to problems in locating human remains in a waterway. Add in the impact of marine life and boating traffic and the problems intensify.

"It's a very, very difficult task to try and find remains," Tyson said.

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Criminal Profiling Topic of the Day: Why Ronald Cummings knows what happened to Haleigh

It seems a lot of people think Ronald Cummings is simply a grieving Dad who has been the victim of evil Misty Cummings and her family. They admit he is a criminal and a drug dealer, but "other than that," he is a good guy. I disagree and disagree vehemently. I believe Ronald Cummings is involved with the death of his daughter even while rumors are flying that Misty's cousin, Joe Overstreet kidnapped and killed Haleigh because he couldn't find Ronald's gun that he came to steal (what doofus came up with that idiotic scenario) or that Joe and Tommy, Misty's brother were raping Ronald's daughter while Junior slept and Misty was drugged up. killing her in the process (slightly better, but would YOU want to rape the kid of a guy like Ronald? And would YOU implicate your partner in murder if you didn't want him to take you down with him?).

Okay, recap. Tommy and Misty cook up a scenario with Joe as the fall guy. Why? Seems to me they want to get their sentences reduced. Tommy, the weakest link, the one who probably did help move the body, says he did see Haleigh get put in the water but he didn't do the crime, Joe did. Half truth. Misty can then say she knows what happened but she was terrified of Joe because Joe killed Haleigh and threatened her. Half truth.

This means Misty and Tommy know what happened and Tommy dumped Haleigh's body (or helped do so). But, if Tommy didn't commit a crime, why did he help Misty? Oh, yes, she is his sister and he is a drug dealer too. But, then, Misty must be more involved in the crime than he is. She knows what happened and was there when it happened.

Okay, let's assume Misty killed Haleigh, by accidental drug ingestion or smothering or whatever. She panics, calls Tommy, and he takes the body to the water. He concocts a story with Misty, props the back door open and then Ronald comes home and finds Haleigh has "been stolen." He calls 911, hysterical, and Misty starts with her lies. Ronald is such a dummy he never, ever catches on. Neither does his mother. They both back and support Misty no matter how many times she changes her story or fails a polygraph. They are true innocents.

Please! We are talking about Ronald Cummings who clearly does exactly what he wants to do and is proud of it. Even the night Haleigh went missing, he calls home over and over and then asks Tommy to go over to the house. But the minute he arrives home and finds his daughter gone, he does little to ever find out what happened to her. I think OJ did more to find out who killed Nicole than Ronnie did to find out where his daughter went off too. Unless you believe he married Misty to get as "close to the enemy" as possible.

Here is the more probable scenario.

Something happened to Haleigh before Ronald went to work. She may have gotten into the drugs, maybe Oxycontin, that Ron brought home. Maybe Misty wasn't watching Haleigh like a good seventeen-year-old druggie should. Haleigh starts falling asleep, maybe looking a little comatose, but they don't want to take her to the hospital and explain why she has illegal drugs in her system. They think she will "get over it", sleep it off. Ronald goes to work. He calls home to find out what is happening but Misty doesn't want to pick up the phone. Haleigh is gasping for air. She tries to resuscitate her, pushing up and down and up and down on her chest. But Haleigh dies. What is she going to tell Ron? So she just doesn't answer the phone while she tries to figure out what she is going to do. Ronald calls Tommy and Tommy goes to the house and finds a sobbing Misty and a dead child. He calls Ronald back and tells him Haleigh is dead. Ronnie curses and punches a wall and then gets it together enough to tell Tommy he needs to get Haleigh out of there. They work out a scenario that will keep them out of prison for homicide and drugs and then Ronald comes home and tells Misty exactly what to say on the phone.

"You were sleeping."
"You woke up and found the back door open and our daughter gone."
That's all you know, got it? Stick to the story.

Ronald calls 911 immediately, plays the victim and distraught father, Misty tells the exact story she is told to give.

Ronald never looks for Haleigh after he gets home. He doesn't go nuts on Misty who "got his child stole" right out from under her.

Ronald, while willing to go after "whoever took his daughter" and kill them and go to the electric chair, never slaps Misty around to get an answer. He doesn't go knock on doors of people he suspects could have taken and killed his daughter. Instead, he marries the woman who "is responsible" for losing his daughter and does business with all the other possible suspects. He acts like he already knows his daughter is dead from the time he makes the phone call, when getting a hideous tattoo in memory of his daughter, to getting married as though it doesn't matter if Haleigh missing the occasion she supposedly was looking forward to.

The reality is, Ronald probably married Misty because he thought it would legally keep her from testifying against her and he "unmarried" her when his lawyer likely told him that this was not true. When he gets arrested and taken to jail, he doesn't help the police try to con Misty into telling the truth and he warns her that the police are trying to get him to do this. Even in jail, he is sending a message that he is not giving anything up and she better not either.

Though all of this, Teresa Neves, Ron's mom, never has an unkind word to say about Misty who got her granddaughter killed. She is the mother-in-law any murdering woman would like to have.

Ronald Cummings is a criminal with a criminal mind. He is controlling and exhibits purely psychopathic behavior. He may not have loved Haleigh in any deep way that a father should (he is off dealing drugs instead of searching for his missing child and you can see he seems hardly to remember he has a son when he chats on the telephone from jail), but he would likely be really ticked if someone else messed with his kid.

If were his drugs that killed his daughter and Misty was equally responsible, this perfectly explains why the two are so chummy. And Tommy is the third musketeer. Joe Overstreet? The perfect schmuck. Maybe he was promised a gun in exchange for helping move a body. Maybe he was invited over just to be in the house so they could say he took Haleigh. Maybe he wasn't even around.

I hope the truth comes out and come out soon. And when it does, I hope the truth about Ronald comes out as well.

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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:28 am

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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:31 am

Misty brought to river

By Larry Sullivan
Published: Thursday, April 15, 2010 2:12 AM EDT

SATSUMA - Misty Croslin, who was babysitting Haleigh Cummings the night the child vanished, was brought Wednesday to the St. Johns River where authorities have spent two days searching for the child's remains.

The 18-year-old has been jailed on prescription drug trafficking charges since January.

On Wednesday afternoon, sheriff's deputies drove her from the St. Johns County Jail in St. Augustine to Shell Harbour Road in South Putnam. Croslin was wearing a blue jail uniform and her hands were cuffed in front of her.

Croslin was escorted to a dock extending into the river and spent about 15 minutes there, said Rick Ryan, chief of staff of the Putnam County Sheriff's Office.

"We took her out there," Ryan said. "She was taken to the search scene and then back to the jail in St. Johns County."

Ryan declined to say why Croslin was brought to the site or whether she provided information that was helpful.

"I'm not going to discuss any investigative details," he said.

Haleigh was 5 years old when she was reported missing by Croslin in a 911 phone call at 3:27 a.m. on Feb. 10, 2009, and no trace of the kindergartner was been found. The call triggered days of massive searching led by the Putnam sheriff's office with help from several neighboring counties, as well as officers from state and federal agencies.

This intense reaction by law enforcement hasn't been demonstrated since - until Tuesday, when some 50 officers took control of the Shell Harbour boat ramp.

Other developments:

n Divers and others resumed combing the river bottom and shores in what a sheriff's spokesman termed "a meticulous search for physical evidence." The work was halted at sunset on Tuesday and Wednesday nights.

n Joe Overstreet of Antioch, Tenn., a cousin of Misty Croslin, was questioned by Putnam County and Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigators who flew to Tennessee on Tuesday.

n Teresa Neves, Haleigh's paternal grandmother, in a television interview accused Misty Croslin of withholding information from police.

n The forensic laboratory at the University of Florida sent a truck to Satsuma on Wednesday to collect items collected by divers.

This week's search was prompted by a tip investigators received on Monday, said Lt. Johnny Greenwood, a spokesman for the Putnam sheriff's office.

Meanwhile, speculation has swirled throughout the community that the tip stated Haleigh was dead and implicated Overstreet and Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr., who is Misty's older brother.

Putnam investigators repeatedly have said they believed Misty Croslin withheld key information about what happened to Haleigh. Her lawyer has said recently that she was cooperating and the focus of the case had shifted.

Tuesday night marked the third time Overstreet was interviewed, according to his attorney, Shawn Sirgo.

In a telephone interview Wednesday, Sirgo told the Daily News that investigators' questions were designed to "clarify and verify."

"You have people from Florida that keep changing their story and the more they change their story the more some people who should know better just constantly take advantage of Joseph's non-response to anything," Sirgo said.

Asked if he was referring to Misty Croslin's inconsistent stories, he replied, "The people that are under investigation for this child, yes."

Sirgo vouched for his client.

"Joe says he has nothing to do with it and I believe Joseph," Sirgo said.

On Wednesday, Overstreet, 20, held a press conference in his lawyer's office in Nashville.

Overstreet, who was in Putnam County at the time Haleigh was reported missing, has not been charged with any crime and said he doesn't what happened to the child.

"If I knew who did it, I would go straight and call the cops and tell them who did it," he said.

Also Wednesday, the sheriff's office said reports on television and elsewhere that a suspect was in custody in connection with the Haleigh case were wrong.

"There is currently no one in law enforcement custody as the result of the investigation into Haleigh Cummings' disappearance," Greenwood said in a statement issued Wednesday afternoon.

The flurry of activity returned Putnam County to the national spotlight as commentators on cable television programs focused their speculation and opinions on the local missing child case.

In the months following Haleigh's disappearance, the case took many twists and turns.

Croslin told deputies she put Haleigh to bed just after 8 p.m. before she went to bed herself a couple hours later. Croslin said she awoke around 3 a.m. to use the restroom when she noticed the kitchen light on, the door propped open with a cinder block and Haleigh gone.

Haleigh's father, 26-year-old Ronald Cummings, was returning from his night-shift at PDM Bridge in Palatka shortly after Haleigh was discovered missing. His voice is heard franticly in the 911 call.

Two camps were set up in the neighborhood to house the maternal and paternal sides of Haleigh's family. For more than a month, tents remained aglow with hundreds of candles used in nightly vigils while national media spotlighted the child's disappearance.

A month later, Croslin and Cummings married at a relative's house in Welaka.

Authorities named Croslin - briefly known as Misty Cummings - the key to the investigation after she delivered numerous inconsistencies in her account of what took place between 10 p.m. and 3 a.m. the evening Haleigh disappeared.

After seven months, Cummings divorced Croslin, citing public scrutiny.

In January, Cummings, Croslin, her brother Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr., Cummings' cousin, Hope Sykes and a former Equusearch volunteer Donna Brock were arrested following a month-long narcotics investigation into the trafficking of prescription pills.

Croslin's bond remains at $1.5 million and Cummings' bond at $900,000.

All remain behind bars.

Staff writer Kristin Chambers contributed to this report.

lsullivan@palatkadailynews.com

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Post by TerryRose on Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:33 am

I agree with most of your thoughts above about these characters, Wrap. So strange that Ronald charmed the sense out of NG like he has.
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Wrapitup wrote:The Daily Profiler
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WEDNESDAY, APRIL 14, 2010

Criminal Profiling Topic of the Day: Why Ronald Cummings knows what happened to Haleigh

It seems a lot of people think Ronald Cummings is simply a grieving Dad who has been the victim of evil Misty Cummings and her family. They admit he is a criminal and a drug dealer, but "other than that," he is a good guy. I disagree and disagree vehemently. I believe Ronald Cummings is involved with the death of his daughter even while rumors are flying that Misty's cousin, Joe Overstreet kidnapped and killed Haleigh because he couldn't find Ronald's gun that he came to steal (what doofus came up with that idiotic scenario) or that Joe and Tommy, Misty's brother were raping Ronald's daughter while Junior slept and Misty was drugged up. killing her in the process (slightly better, but would YOU want to rape the kid of a guy like Ronald? And would YOU implicate your partner in murder if you didn't want him to take you down with him?).

Okay, recap. Tommy and Misty cook up a scenario with Joe as the fall guy. Why? Seems to me they want to get their sentences reduced. Tommy, the weakest link, the one who probably did help move the body, says he did see Haleigh get put in the water but he didn't do the crime, Joe did. Half truth. Misty can then say she knows what happened but she was terrified of Joe because Joe killed Haleigh and threatened her. Half truth.

This means Misty and Tommy know what happened and Tommy dumped Haleigh's body (or helped do so). But, if Tommy didn't commit a crime, why did he help Misty? Oh, yes, she is his sister and he is a drug dealer too. But, then, Misty must be more involved in the crime than he is. She knows what happened and was there when it happened.

Okay, let's assume Misty killed Haleigh, by accidental drug ingestion or smothering or whatever. She panics, calls Tommy, and he takes the body to the water. He concocts a story with Misty, props the back door open and then Ronald comes home and finds Haleigh has "been stolen." He calls 911, hysterical, and Misty starts with her lies. Ronald is such a dummy he never, ever catches on. Neither does his mother. They both back and support Misty no matter how many times she changes her story or fails a polygraph. They are true innocents.

Please! We are talking about Ronald Cummings who clearly does exactly what he wants to do and is proud of it. Even the night Haleigh went missing, he calls home over and over and then asks Tommy to go over to the house. But the minute he arrives home and finds his daughter gone, he does little to ever find out what happened to her. I think OJ did more to find out who killed Nicole than Ronnie did to find out where his daughter went off too. Unless you believe he married Misty to get as "close to the enemy" as possible.

Here is the more probable scenario.

Something happened to Haleigh before Ronald went to work. She may have gotten into the drugs, maybe Oxycontin, that Ron brought home. Maybe Misty wasn't watching Haleigh like a good seventeen-year-old druggie should. Haleigh starts falling asleep, maybe looking a little comatose, but they don't want to take her to the hospital and explain why she has illegal drugs in her system. They think she will "get over it", sleep it off. Ronald goes to work. He calls home to find out what is happening but Misty doesn't want to pick up the phone. Haleigh is gasping for air. She tries to resuscitate her, pushing up and down and up and down on her chest. But Haleigh dies. What is she going to tell Ron? So she just doesn't answer the phone while she tries to figure out what she is going to do. Ronald calls Tommy and Tommy goes to the house and finds a sobbing Misty and a dead child. He calls Ronald back and tells him Haleigh is dead. Ronnie curses and punches a wall and then gets it together enough to tell Tommy he needs to get Haleigh out of there. They work out a scenario that will keep them out of prison for homicide and drugs and then Ronald comes home and tells Misty exactly what to say on the phone.

"You were sleeping."
"You woke up and found the back door open and our daughter gone."
That's all you know, got it? Stick to the story.

Ronald calls 911 immediately, plays the victim and distraught father, Misty tells the exact story she is told to give.

Ronald never looks for Haleigh after he gets home. He doesn't go nuts on Misty who "got his child stole" right out from under her.

Ronald, while willing to go after "whoever took his daughter" and kill them and go to the electric chair, never slaps Misty around to get an answer. He doesn't go knock on doors of people he suspects could have taken and killed his daughter. Instead, he marries the woman who "is responsible" for losing his daughter and does business with all the other possible suspects. He acts like he already knows his daughter is dead from the time he makes the phone call, when getting a hideous tattoo in memory of his daughter, to getting married as though it doesn't matter if Haleigh missing the occasion she supposedly was looking forward to.

The reality is, Ronald probably married Misty because he thought it would legally keep her from testifying against her and he "unmarried" her when his lawyer likely told him that this was not true. When he gets arrested and taken to jail, he doesn't help the police try to con Misty into telling the truth and he warns her that the police are trying to get him to do this. Even in jail, he is sending a message that he is not giving anything up and she better not either.

Though all of this, Teresa Neves, Ron's mom, never has an unkind word to say about Misty who got her granddaughter killed. She is the mother-in-law any murdering woman would like to have.

Ronald Cummings is a criminal with a criminal mind. He is controlling and exhibits purely psychopathic behavior. He may not have loved Haleigh in any deep way that a father should (he is off dealing drugs instead of searching for his missing child and you can see he seems hardly to remember he has a son when he chats on the telephone from jail), but he would likely be really ticked if someone else messed with his kid.

If were his drugs that killed his daughter and Misty was equally responsible, this perfectly explains why the two are so chummy. And Tommy is the third musketeer. Joe Overstreet? The perfect schmuck. Maybe he was promised a gun in exchange for helping move a body. Maybe he was invited over just to be in the house so they could say he took Haleigh. Maybe he wasn't even around.

I hope the truth comes out and come out soon. And when it does, I hope the truth about Ronald comes out as well.

http://patbrownprofiling.blogspot.com/2010/04/criminal-profiling-topic-of-day-why.html

I have no sympathy for Ron Cummings he is a drug dealer who kept drugs and guns around his kids. He left them with a drug addicted teenager. However after reading Pat Browns article I lost a lot of respect for her. Her scenario is just crazy. No way as Ron involved in the murder and disposal of HaLeigh. Yes he may have known HaLeigh was dead and not just missing but no way did he have any part in it other than covering it up because of Ron's drug dealing ways. He did not want that to come out.
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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:02 am

That was Pat Brown's, Criminal Profiler, words but I have always thought Ron knew what happened.

However, there are rumblings that Haleigh got into Misty's stash of pills on Feb. 9 and went into a seizure and then a coma and she called Tommy to help her. So, in essence, Haleigh was still alive when she was dumped. This is Rumor at this point. crying

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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:04 am

However after reading Pat Browns article I lost a lot of respect for her.
I haven't lost respect for her as everyone is fallible. It is when they are fallible, rude and disrespectful over and over again that I lose respect, like Nancy Grace. MOO.

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Post by artgal16 on Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:11 am

My opinion for what it is worth is that Ron should be held accountable somehow. First of all Misty was underage when he started his relationship with her.
She was a child who grew up in an environment of drugs (just take a look at her mother) and probably abuse and has little education. She is then given charge of two minors, (this is why Nancy Grace hates Crystal because she let this situation remain) and that trailor was full of drugs all the time because Ron is and was a major dealer of these pills. Ron is gone all night leaving probably a drug-addicted MINOR in charge of two small children- in a trailor full of drugs.
Ah, what do you think will happen? Misty leaves the drugs out - Haleigh takes some pills - after all shes probably seen Misty take plenty of them herself - and Haleigh dies - Misty panics and gets help from her brother and and the dump the body in the lake. She is already in a panic - when Ron is on his way home she makes the call -it doesnt take much for her to act panicky she all ready is. Ron is just as responsible for his daughters death because he slep with a minor, he let her use drugs, he left her in charge of his children.
He is just as much responsible for Haleigh's death, if this is in fact what happened as Misty is.
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Post by mommyof3kids on Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:37 am

Artgal~ You are so right on the money with your above post! I too think your scenario is indeed Correct!!
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Post by frogs on Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:01 pm

Let me preface my following comment with the fact that I love that we can agree to disagree here. I also pre-apologize for the harsh terminology I may use.

I TOTALLY agree with Pat Brown! I suspected Ron from the second I heard his voice on that 911 call. I think Haleigh was dead before Ron left for work. I believe the dozens of phone calls he made to the house were to find out whether Haleigh's body was dumped. I believe Misty was told to call 911 while Ron was at work in order to give him an alibi, and his anger on the 911 call was because Misty failed to call 911 before he arrived home. I believe Misty's reward for covering for him was the marriage (as well as Ron's mistaken belief that once married, Misty couldn't testify against him).

Also, I have just seen a twitter wherein Pat Brown announced she will be hosting a BlogTalkRadio show on Sundays at 9PM EST.
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Post by Guest on Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:50 pm

Yes frogs we can agree to disagree here. If I am wrong I will eat those words later. I am sticking to my feelings about what happened and Ron is guilty as sin but not for murdering and disposing of her body.
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Post by cherylz on Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:56 pm

Yep, it is OK to agree to disagree. It opens up dialect!
I tend to think Misty was in charge of the 2 lil' ones. She was high as a kite. Exhausted from her "busy" drug-fueled w'end. She didn't want to babysit. I cannot forget what JR said about the couch bouncing and a man dressed in black taking HL out. I seem to think Misty had visitors that night. She crashed. Can't reallu remember...it was "like a dream"...she seemed to have been in a black-out state. The pervert/s may have abused that poor child. Then out of fear she was killed...for they knew that Haleigh would tell her father. They or he or she put her in the dumpster. Then realized she would be found and disposed of her in the lake. JMHO.
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Post by laga on Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:39 pm

Cherlyz, that is not just your opinion, it's mine too, word for word.
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Post by Guest on Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:47 pm

Ditto Cherlyz and Laga that is what I think happened.
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Post by TerryRose on Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:42 pm

As to agreeing and disagreeing with the above theories, I need to ask, just exactly what time it was when Theresa Neves and her mother (I think Grandma Sykes was with her) dropped by that evening to return clothing that had been laundered? Ron was at work and I think they mentioned that both kids and Misty were present in the home and nobody else at that time. Unless we would say that both were involved in a coverup, and I wouldn't think so myself, then Ron was at work when the crime was committed.
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Post by artgal16 on Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:44 pm

Yes! Terry thats right - we need a really good timeline
Also Blink on crime is saying they were looking for a blanket in the water, and that Misty would get a reduced sentence for giving information - making it sound like its not Misty!
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Post by cherylz on Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:49 pm

The g'mother was by as I rem. at dinnertime. I know Misty had visitors that day...rem. the AC guy...maybe others. I def. think Ron was at work when it happened...I believe LE stated such.
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Post by artgal16 on Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:51 pm

SATSUMA, Fla. --
The investigation into the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings was deemed a homicide by Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy on Thursday.

Hardy held a news conference at 4 p.m. as a search of the St. Johns River neared completion.

"Over the past couple of weeks, information has been obtained by investigators that leads them to believe that Haleigh Cummings is most likely deceased," Hardy said.

Hardy said items were pulled from the river and sent to a laboratory for analysis. He said no arrests had been made in the Haleigh case, but there were several persons of interest.
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Post by artgal16 on Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:52 pm

The Putnam County Sheriff announced this afternoon that Haleigh Cummings, the Putnam County girl who in disappeared February 2009, is "most likely dead" and detectives are investigating "persons of interest."

He said this during a brief news conference today — the third day investigators searched in an area on the St. Johns River.

Hardy said Haleigh's former stepmother, Misty Croslin, is still the key to the case. Detectives brought Croslin to the river Wednesday. It's unclear what she told them. She is being held in jail on unrelated drug charges.

"I think she's come to realize she's in trouble," he said.

Croslin was the last person to see Haleigh, then 5, before she vanished from her father's Satsuma home.

In the past few weeks, detectives received information that led them to believe that the girl is dead, Hardy said.

"It's a good thing. People are starting to talk," Hardy said.

The sheriff wouldn't say who gave the tip that directed deputies to search the river. Several items were removed from the river for further analysis, the sheriff said. He wouldn't go into detail on what was taken or what type of testing was going to be performed.

An anthropologist was on scene to help investigators determine what might be potential evidence.

It's a "very real possibility" that Haleigh died in the area that was being searched, he said.

No arrests have been made. That could change soon.

"We are hoping to make an arrest in this case," he said.

source: orlandosentinel.com
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Post by janie on Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:53 pm

TerryRose wrote:As to agreeing and disagreeing with the above theories, I need to ask, just exactly what time it was when Theresa Neves and her mother (I think Grandma Sykes was with her) dropped by that evening to return clothing that had been laundered? Ron was at work and I think they mentioned that both kids and Misty were present in the home and nobody else at that time. Unless we would say that both were involved in a coverup, and I wouldn't think so myself, then Ron was at work when the crime was committed.
I was thinking the same thing TerryRose! I remember she said she saw HaLeigh and Jr. eating dinner on the porch so if that's true Ron had to be at work. I think Ron is guilty of a lot of things but I don't think he killed HaLeigh.JMHO
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Post by artgal16 on Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:54 pm

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- Detectives in the case of missing girl Haleigh Cummings said late Thursday afternoon they officially believe the child has been killed.

For the third day in a row, crews searched in the Saint John’s River just a few miles from Haleigh's home in Satsuma, where she disappeared last February.


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Over the past few weeks, information has been obtained by investigators that lead them to believe Haleigh Cummings is most likely deceased.

There have been rumors spreading that a suspect has been taken into custody as the result of this investigation. The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office said the rumor is not true. However, the investigative team has identified persons of interest in this case.

The detective also said Haleigh's former stepmother, Misty Croslin, could be in trouble.

During a jailhouse call, Misty pointed the finger at one of her relatives. She claimed her cousin, Joe Overstreet, took Haleigh, but he says that’s lie.

Overstreet was in Putnam County when Haleigh disappeared, but left for Tennessee soon after.
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Post by mommyof3kids on Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:16 pm

WOW! This is the news I was waiting for, not to sound excited about it, but we all knew she was most likely deceased 🇳🇴

This does still show that Misty is still in the middle of all of this. I bet she is pointing the finger at cousin Joe and so is her stupid Brother Tommy, but I still have this feeling this was all a blame game stirred up to throw Cousin Joe under the bus for the entire mess. If Joe is part of this, so are Misty and Tommy.. JMO of course
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Post by lisette on Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:19 pm

It's a "very real possibility" that Haleigh died in the area that was being searched, he said.

So they think that she was not killed in the trailer, but was taken to the river and killed there? This is horrible!
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Post by mommyof3kids on Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:22 pm

I know Lisette.. I don't get this at all? I thought for sure she was killed in the home, then again, I don't recall the home ever being a crime scene?

My head is spinning with so many scenarios.. Ahhh
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Post by lisette on Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:31 pm

I remember something about a crowd of them out riding four-wheelers and there being an accident...Maybe just speculation...BUT if it was an accident, why would they cover it up for this long!? And where would Jr have been? I don't remember where I heard this about the 4-wheelers.
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Post by mommyof3kids on Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:33 pm

Ya that was back when they were searching the Mondex (Sp?) Pond Lisette. I too remember that, but can not remember where I heard it or who was the source of that story?
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Post by mommyof3kids on Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:56 pm

Has Anyone read this about what G-ma feels about Joe?

Misty Cummings' Cousin, Grandma Speak
Joe Overstreet Says He Doesn't Know What Happened To Haleigh
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ANTIOCH, Tenn. -- The cousin of Misty Cummings, who investigators think is the key to solving the case of Haleigh Cummings, said he does not know what happened to Haleigh the night she disappeared.
Investigators from Putnam County, however, traveled to Antioch, Tenn., earlier this week where they questioned 20-year-old Joe Overstreet. It was the third time police have interviewed him.
Overstreet spoke to reporters Wednesday afternoon with his attorney and his mother at his side. He then agreed to speak to Channel 4's Jennifer Bauer after the meeting.
"I can't say nothing about it," he said. "I wanna say something, but I don't know what to say."
Overstreet is Misty Cummings' first cousin. He was in Satsuma on vacation when Haleigh disappeared. Rumors and allegations have been swirling about what Overstreet knows.
Video: Misty's Cousin Questioned In Tennessee
When Channel 4 asked him about his Florida visit, he walked off and refused to answer any more questions.
Overstreet and Cummings' grandmother, Flora Hollars also lives in Antioch. She said she's not surprised police came back to interview her grandson.


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A woman who appears to be Misty Cummings was seen on a river dock where investigators were searching for evidence in the Haleigh Cummings case.
"They've been waiting on him to get here," she said.
Hollars said the ordeal has been beyond difficult for their family. She said, however, she thinks Overstreet knows more than he's telling investigators. He came back to Tennessee a few days after Haleigh disappeared.
"He's been a changed person since he got back from Florida," she said. "He's not been the same person anymore. There's been a complete turnaround. And there's a scare in his eyes. And it's been there ever since he came back."
Hollars also said whenever she wears a shirt with Haleigh's face on it, Overstreet often leaves the house and refuses to talk about Haleigh.

Overstreet and his attorneys said they've told investigators everything they know. They said they talked in great detail about what happened.
So far, no suspect has been named and no arrests have been made
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