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Interesting little article on Jose. Hummm I say..hummm.
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ORLANDO — His defense of a young mother charged with killing her toddler has transformed José Ángel Baez into one of the best-known lawyers in America.

For eight years after he graduated from law school, however, the board that screens prospective attorneys in Florida would not let him practice law. The Florida Supreme Court agreed with the decision, issuing an order in 2000 that cataloged unpaid bills, extravagant spending and other "financial irresponsibility" up to that time. Justices reserved their strongest condemnation for his failure to stay current on support payments for his only child.

His overall behavior, they wrote, showed "a total lack of respect for the rights of others and a total lack of respect for the legal system, which is absolutely inconsistent with the character and fitness qualities required of those seeking to be afforded the highest position of trust and confidence recognized by our system of law."

He worked instead as a paralegal for the Miami-Dade public defender and then taught Internet research to lawyers and started four business ventures, including two bikini companies. Before Florida Bar officials admitted him in 2005, he had to demonstrate that he had rehabilitated himself.

Today, as lead defense attorney for Casey Anthony — the Orange County woman charged with killing her 2-year-old daughter— 40-year-old Baez has become the sort of instant celebrity monitored by TV, newspapers, tabloids and the Internet.

He is a Bar member in good standing, his office spokeswoman reminded the Orlando Sentinel in a prepared statement. She also questioned the motives behind the newspaper story.

"Based on your questions and actions," she wrote, "this profile you are writing has nothing to do with Jose Baez's representation of Casey Anthony and appears to be a sensationalist persecution of a Hispanic lawyer who has been targeted by a newspaper lucky to find itself at the center of a national story."

The Supreme Court order, which the Sentinel found in public records, shows that nearly a decade ago, he could not satisfy the character and fitness standards Florida requires of prospective lawyers.

It identifies Baez by his initials, J.A.B. — standard procedure in cases in which prospective lawyers challenge their denial of a law license at the state's highest court. Using other public records and interviews, the Sentinel matched many details in the document to Baez, however.

For instance, the lawyer listed as representing J.A.B. was Manuel Alvarez, an attorney with the Miami-Dade Public Defender's Office, where Baez worked at the time.

The office confirmed that Alvarez helped Baez with his Bar application. Supreme Court records show J.A.B.'s is the only case involving the Bar that Alvarez has handled in the state's highest court.

Alvarez would not comment, but Executive Assistant Public Defender Rory S. Stein said that Alvarez wrote a legal brief on behalf of Baez in 1998, the year after he graduated from law school. Stein called it "a friendly gesture" to a staff member who needed help with his lawyer application.

In an interview last year, Baez described his eight years out of law as a personal choice, saying he could earn more money in other fields. He would not be interviewed for this story but commented on the court order in the statement issued through Marti Mackenzie, his office spokeswoman:

"The ruling you claim that was made about a lawyer with the initials J.A.B. has nothing to do with Mr. Baez's current status as a member in good standing with The Florida Bar. Many people, including lawyers, have monetary misunderstandings, disputes and child support disagreements that have no effect on their ability to represent clients."

From Navy to law school

Born in Puerto Rico in 1969, Baez told reporters he grew up in the Bronx and South Florida with his mother, a single parent. He dropped out of Homestead High School in ninth grade.

He married at 17, became a father, earned a GED diploma and joined the Navy in 1986.

According to his résumé, Baez spent three years assigned to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization in Norfolk, Va., trained as an intelligence analyst with what he described as a "Cosmic Top Secret" security clearance.

He left active duty in May 1989 as a yeoman seaman, a rank associated with administrative duties, and then served in the U.S. Navy Reserve, according to the National Archives and Records Administration.

In the next six years, Baez divorced, attended Miami-Dade Community College and graduated from Florida State University. A black belt in tae kwon do, Baez competed with the karate, pistol and crime-scene team from FSU's chapter of Lambda Alpha Epsilon, a fraternity of criminology majors.

"We probably ranked first overall in every category in every national competition," said Ken Koehler, the fraternity's former sergeant-at-arms. "José was more or less the primary instructor. ... We did academic testing as well, and he did pretty good with that, too."

After graduating in 1997 from St. Thomas University School of Law in Miami, Baez applied to become a lawyer. In April 1998, he was called before the Florida Board of Bar Examiners, which screens prospective lawyers. The later Supreme Court order outlined how this review uncovered the debts and other problems that concerned the Bar examiners.

That order is the only public record of the review, which is designed to protect the public and safeguard the judicial system. The Bar examiners have responsibility for ensuring that all lawyer applicants meet Florida's requirements for character and fitness, education and technical competence, according to Supreme Court rules.

The process is not open to the public, except when a candidate who is turned down asks the Supreme Court to review the decision. The court identifies the rejected applicant only by his or her initials when its findings are released.

Court critical of finances

According to the Supreme Court summary of the case, the Board of Bar Examiners filed formal allegations against J.A.B. in September 1998. In addition to unpaid child support, a personal bankruptcy and default on a student loan, the investigators said he left out parts of his history, including that he wrote a bad check and entered a pretrial program to avoid conviction.

Investigators also found fault with J.A.B.'s participation in a foreign-studies program in summer 1995 and his leasing of a Mazda Miata in Miami — unnecessary expenses when he owed money to others, they said.

After a formal hearing, the board found the allegations proven and recommended that he not be admitted to the Bar.

"Additionally, the Board found that J.A.B.'s misrepresentations and lack of candor in his answers to the specifications and during his formal hearing testimony were further grounds for disqualification," the Supreme Court wrote.

Many details in the order can be confirmed in public records for José Baez:

•Miami-Dade Circuit Court records show that Baez failed repeatedly to pay his $200-a-month child support after his 1993 divorce. The sum owed reached $12,000 by 2004. Asked recently about this, Baez said through his spokeswoman that he and his ex-wife have resolved their child-support issues. Like J.A.B., Baez's only child is a daughter.

•Baez declared bankruptcy in September 1990, the same month and year cited for J.A.B. The records on Baez are filed with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, where he lived during and after his service in the Navy.

•The Virginia Education Loan Authority filed liens against Baez for $4,336 in unpaid loans in 1995, the same year the Supreme Court says J.A.B defaulted on his student loan.

•Baez leased a Mazda Miata in 1998, just as J.A.B did. The Sentinel obtained a copy of his Progressive Express insurance card for the vehicle, which Baez had submitted to the Public Defender's Office in Miami. Files from the State Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles show the car was leased.

In April 1998 — the same month that the Bar examiners held their investigative hearing into J.A.B.'s qualifications as a lawyer — the Miami-Dade Public Defender's Office reassigned José Ángel Baez to tasks that did not require a law degree.

Baez spent the next 16 months interviewing witnesses and investigating cases to compensate the office for its investment in his preparation to be a lawyer, records show. He resigned in September 1999.

The following year, in June 2000, the Supreme Court issued its findings in case No. SC95855, Florida Board of Bar Examiners RE: J.A.B.: "Accordingly, we approve the Board's recommendation that J.A.B. not be admitted to the Florida Bar at this time."

Baez tries bikini business

Turned down by the Bar, Baez started a series of businesses.

They included Bon Bon Bikinis and Brazilian-Bikinis.Com to sell bathing suits, corporate records show. He also applied for a real-estate license and created two companies selling computer know-how: LawStudentWebsites.Com and LawyerConcepts.

From 2000 to 2005, according to his spokeswoman, Baez worked for LexisNexis, the information company. In an interview last year, he said he taught lawyers and judges to research cases using the Internet and made twice as much as he could practicing law.

Records show that a court in Miami docked $550 a month from his LexisNexis paycheck in 2004 to pay child support to his first wife.

An applicant denied admission to the Bar can reapply after two years or other such period set by the Bar examiners. The application must include a "written statement describing the scope and character of the applicant's evidence of rehabilitation," according to Supreme Court rules.

The court requires them to produce "clear and convincing evidence of rehabilitation," such as strict compliance with judicial or administrative orders, assurances to "conduct one's self in an exemplary manner" and demonstrations of excellent character, good reputation for professional ability and "positive action" in their occupation, religion or community or civic service.

Baez launched two community-service ventures during his time away from the law.

In 2001, according to state records, Baez created a nonprofit group, the Miami Domestic Violence Project. It dissolved two years later. Mackenzie, Baez's office spokeswoman, said the project disbanded because another group with an almost identical purpose and name already existed.

In 2004, Baez created another nonprofit in Miami, Miracles for Children Foundation Corp., according to state records. It continued until Sept. 16, 2005.

The following week, Sept. 22, Baez was admitted to practice law. Because the admission process for lawyers is not public, there is no way to know what effect these nonprofit groups had on the Bar's action.



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Post by raine1953 on Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:03 pm

Oh my, this explains why he's a Bozo, he has had no experience! I wonder what CA & GA think about their decision to hire him now?
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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:11 pm

The Ant's did NOT hire Baez...Casey did.

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Post by raine1953 on Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:26 pm

Oh now it even makes *more* sense! I thought all this time that the Ant's found him & hired him.
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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:57 pm

The events surrounding the "hiring of Bozo" have always raised my red flags. Allegedly, Casey asked a fellow inmate if she knew of any good attorneys and was given Baez's card. And the rest is history. This was before she was arrested for Murder.

I personally have often wondered if she met Baez at Club Fusion after she killed Caylee. She also told Baez she could come up with (I believe) $5K down but we all know that was b.s.

Does anyone have any particulars on this?

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Post by cherylz on Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:46 am

Jeanne thanks for the article Re: jealousy upon hearing of Baez' wife being pregnant. Unbelievable! head bang
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Post by artgal16 on Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:06 am

What was the biggest headline in the Casey Anthony case today? I’ll pick one from outside the status hearing.

Anthony defense attorney Cheney Mason told WESH-Channel 2 that the questioning of Texas EquuSearch volunteers was paying dividends for the defense. Mason estimated that 15 to 20 of 75 volunteers questioned said there was no was body at the spot where Caylee Anthony’s remains were later found. Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter.

Mason’s point suggests that someone else deposited the toddler’s remains after her mother was in jail, WESH’s Bob Kealing explained.

Mason said he will give the list of witnesses to the court Friday, Kealing added.

But Kealing also quoted “one source close to the investigation” who is “highly skeptical of this new defense claim of all these witnesses that they’ve identified.”

And Mark NeJame, attorney for Texas EquuSearch, told Kealing that Mason’s comment was “preposterous.”

WESH, WOFL-Channel 35 and WFTV-Channel 9 highlighted Chief Judge Belvin Perry’s decisions during the status hearing. The defense must give the prosecution all the notes, photos and videos taken by defense experts. But Perry rejected the prosecution’s request to get the financial records for defense experts.

Later WFTV-Channel 9’s Kathi Belich asked defense attorney Jose Baez what the defense paid its experts before the defense ran out of money. Baez said the information was client-business dealings. “We do know that the defense spent almost $200,000 before taxpayers started picking up the tab for Casey’s defense,” Belich added.


In another report, Belich look at prosecution’s expenses. She reported that the state attorney’s office says prosecuting the case has cost $42,000 after two years, but that figure doesn’t include prosecutors’ salaries or the “very high” investigation costs of various agencies.

Belich also noted that the defense seemed to be backing away from any attempts to discredit Roy Kronk, the meter reader who found Caylee’s remains.

The defense said it might have been “premature” to suggest that Kronk be investigated as a suspect, Belich reported.

WESH showed Baez telling reporters, “A lot of it is premature. After looking at certain things, we may not want to address some of them until a later time.”

But Perry warned Baez that “all most motions must be heard by the end of the year or possibly not at all,” Kealing explained.

There were the personal bits, too:

Kealing highlighted the “new hands-on approach” that deputies were using to escort Anthony into the court. She had tripped this summer and chipped a tooth at the courthouse.

WOFL’s Holly Bristow said that Anthony “walked into court today wearing a bright orange shirt with her hair pulled back and a smile on her face. Her mom, Cindy, sat two rows back. Noticeably absent: Casey’s dad, George.”

WFTV anchor Martie Salt observed, “Casey looked like she was having a good time in court today.”

Kathi Belich agreed, “She was laughing with one of the defense staffers when the lawyers were all up at the bench talking to the judge. At one point, she seemed to catch herself and put on a more serious expression.”

The color of Casey’s blouse was a recurring topic on the channels. Belich described the shirt as peach-colored.
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Post by jeanne1807 on Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:18 am

I wonder if the news of those searchers not finding Caylee is what put the smiles on their faces.

I think when it comes out that it is not true the smiles will disappear.

Casey and Baez..what a team.
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Post by artgal16 on Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:23 am

Ill go with Mark Nejames assessment of these new witnesses - preposterous!
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Casey Anthony was back in court today for a status hearing. Her look and manner drew analysts’ scrutiny.
“In Session” commentators were struck by her orange blouse. “That’s not inmate uniform. She’s wearing regular clothes,” host Vinnie Politan said.

Why the regular clothes? The consensus was the defense is getting Anthony ready to wear them for her murder trial; she is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

“It’s orange. It’s not a good color to wear,” Politan added. And he said he would advise his clients against wearing the color.

He later said that Anthony didn’t look very comfortable today, but soon after that comment, she was smiling broadly.

As for court matters, Politan observed it was business as usual for Chief Judge Belvin Perry. “It seems like they’ve gotten a lot of the work done,” Politan said. “Surprisingly, it looks like they’re on target” for a trial start in May.

Politan noted that Cindy Anthony, Casey’s mother, was in court, but George Anthony wasn’t there.

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Post by cherylz on Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:10 pm

I can't help but be awestruck with the fact that CA is still standing by her. She must "think" that it was all "just an accident" and she probably feels guilty that she may have precipitated it by the fight on the 15th.
On a lighter note...did anyone notice how thin KC's eyebrows were? A sign of OCD--they get stress relief from pulling their hair out. Yay...she must be "stressed". rabbit
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Post by Wrapitup on Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:54 pm

Or maybe a guard passed her some wax. Sarcasm

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Post by Nama on Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:05 pm

Defense attorneys for Casey Anthony, the Florida mother charged with killing her 2-year-old daughter, do not have to give prosecutors the expense records and contracts of their defense experts.

However, at a hearing Monday, the judge did order Anthony's attorneys to hand over copies of the notes, photos, and videos those experts took while examining evidence.

Orange County Circuit Judge Belvin Perry said that during deposition the prosecution can obtain the information they seek regarding expert witnesses, including contracts between the defense and the witnesses, communications, billing records, and travel, meals and entertainment expenses.

The Orlando Sentinel reports that Perry ordered defense attorney Jose Baez to provide general information about the expert witnesses and what specific areas they will be testifying about to Assistant State Attorney Jeff Ashton, who is preparing to question those witnesses under oath.

Ashton argued earlier that he has very little discovery information which presents obstacles heading into the question-and-answer sessions, reports The Orlando Sentinel.

"I am trying to depose these witnesses in the next four weeks and I have nothing," Ashton said.

Defense attorneys have until Friday afternoon to provide the prosecution with photos and notes produced by the experts, as well as additional expert information.

According to the Sentinel, Judge Perry also ordered that the list of defense witnesses be temporarily sealed, and set a hearing on the issue of withholding that witness list from the public for Dec. 20.

Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found in a wooded area of Orange County in December 2008. She was reported missing in July of that year.

Anthony has pleaded not guilty. Her trial is scheduled to begin in May.

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Post by lisette on Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:56 pm

Posted: 11:35 am EST December 2, 2010
Updated: 11:40 am EST December 2, 2010

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Prosecutors and the defense in the case against Casey Anthony are apparently having a dispute via email (read motion) about how much the judge ordered the defense to divulge about what its experts will be saying at Casey's murder trial in May.
The defense won't give prosecutors specifics, only what the experts' fields of expertise are, which prosecutors say they could have gotten over the Internet.
Prosecutors believe the defense is defying the court's order.
The judge gave the defense until Friday to turn over the information in writing.
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Post by lisette on Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:07 pm

Motion with Emails attached---

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What a smart-a** Bozo is! I hope Judge Perry interprets it that way!
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Post by Guest on Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:10 pm

Unbelievable!!! lisette is right what a smart ass.
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Post by raine1953 on Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:34 pm

What a jerk! I hope Ashton goes to JP. It says to me at least - that Boo is clearly NOT complying with the judge's order.
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Post by Guest on Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:42 pm

Do I see Baez sending the same stuff over and over again?
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Post by lisette on Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:37 am

Yeah, LM, and what got me were the snide comments, such as "You already know this", "You know all of this", and "Tell me you already know this", in all caps, no less! He is so unprofessional...I know that Ashton and Drane-Burdick grit their teeth when having to deal with him...No wonder the bar wouldn't admit him for a long time...I hope JP jerks his chain on this one!
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Post by Wrapitup on Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:07 pm

Even I am surprised w/how unprofessional he is. He does not act or speak like a professional at all. Unreal!! I hope Judge Perry literally lays down the law!

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Post by lisette on Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:03 pm

Last Updated: Thursday, December 09, 2010 5:56 PM
ORLANDO --
Casey Anthony is expected to appear in an Orange County courtroom Friday as the judge in the case hears a motion filed last week.

The controversy comes after the court last week ordered Anthony's defense team to provide prosecutors with information about the subject matter of planned expert testimony. Since then, the disagreement arose about just how detailed that information needs to be.

The motion filed by the state contains an e-mail exchange between Anthony's lead attorney, Jose Baez, and Assistant State Attorney Jeffrey Ashton. It is that exchange that is the apparent source of the controversy.

The motion asks the court to "clarify its order," and compel the defense to provide additional information on witnesses.

"It is the State's position that, despite protestation to the contrary, the defense is attempting to avoid compliance with the court's mandate," the motion states.

The hearing is scheduled for 5 p.m. Friday. Casey Anthony is expected at the hearing, according to the courthouse.

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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:14 pm

Good, I don't have to get up with the chickens. :cheering: This ought to be a good one!!! frying pan frying pan frying pan frying pan frying pan

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Post by lisette on Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:19 am

Posted: 11:13 am EST December 10, 2010
Updated: 11:32 am EST December 10, 2010

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony and her defense team are expected back in court late Friday afternoon.
READ: State's Motion For Clarification
During the 5:00pm scheduled hearing, which WFTV.com will cover live online, the state plans to ask the judge to clarify if the defense provided enough information about the experts they plan to call on during the trial.
Last month, the defense team was asked to name all of the experts and what they would be testifying on, but the state doesn't think the defense provided enough information.

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Casey Anthony hearing today
Updated: Friday, 10 Dec 2010, 6:27 AM EST
Published : Friday, 10 Dec 2010, 5:33 AM EST

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - The case against Casey Anthony heads back to court today and Casey is expected to be there. The hearing is scheduled to begin at 5:00 p.m.

Judge Belvin Perry is going to hear and rule on multiple motions about the defense witnesses.

Last week the prosecution filed a motion to have better access to the names of the defense team's expert witnesses and specifics about what they're going to testify about.

Last week the defense released their list of experts which they are hoping can help raise reasonable doubt with the jurors.

Dr. Henry Lee is the biggest name on the list. He’s worked on dozens of high profile cases like OJ Simpson and Joan Benet Ramsey. His specialty is finding the tiniest of clues.

More power house experts, a husband and wife team from Holland. Dr. Richard Eikelenboom is known for his advances in trace DNA., a science where a few skin cells can be used to identify a suspect. His wife, Dr. Thelma Eikelenboom is a coroner and forensic expert.

Dr. Werner Spitz from St. Clair Shores, MIchigan

Dr. Kathy Reichs from Charlotte, North Carolina.

Dr. Jane H. Bock from the University of Colorado Ecology and Evolutionary Biology Department.

Dr. Tim Huntington, Assistant Professor of Biology at Concordia University in Nebraska.

Dr. Scott Fairgrieve, Chair of the Department of Forensic Science at Laurentian University in Sudbury, Ontario Canada.

Dr. Kenneth Furton from University Medical & Forensic Consultants, Inc. in West Palm Beach, Florida.

Dr. Barry Logan from National Medical Services, Inc. in Willow Grove, Pennsylvania.

Dr. John Leeson from Winter Springs, Florida.

Dr. William Rodriguez from Mt. Airy, Maryland

Michael O'Kelly from S. Siox City, Nebraska

Dr. Michael Freeman

The defense experts are expected to testify about DNA evidence where Caylee's remains were found near her home along with evidence collected from Casey Anthony’s car.

The trial is set to start next May.

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Post by lisette on Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:54 pm

There's CA, but no GA...She's with her friend, Donna Cox, I believe...
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KC's buddy from last hearing just came in...Must be one of Bozo's assistants...It looked like she was talking to CA..


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Bozo and Mason, Jeff Ashton are there...No Linda Drane-Burdick that I can see...Bozo has his back turned (whole chair) to Ashton...
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Well, things are not starting right on time, as they usually do...I guess this is the end of the work day and JP is finishing us something in another case...
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Post by lisette on Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:13 pm

I got knocked offline right when JP and KC came in!!! Ashton is now arguing his point, Bozo looks PO'ed...KC's hair is down and LONG... Bozo is now speaking, saying he doesn't really know why they're there...Making it sound like JA is being petty and wasting everybody's time...
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JP is asking about how many of defense's experts wrote a reports...Bozo says none...JA disputes Bozo's claim that not all of state's experts wrote reports...


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JP is stating specifically what must be turned over for those experts on both sides that did not write reports...
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JP soundly put Bozo in his place on his ruling...Bozo was not happy at all!! JP made it clear that he must provide more than what he was giving to the state via email...It sounds like he was supposed to do it through some type of court filing, anyway, which he didn't do...he chose to send sarcastic emails, which JA didn't appreciate...So glad he pursued this in a professional way. Bozo looked so foolish!!
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Post by lisette on Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:35 pm

Defense must provide info on experts by 3:00 pm Dec. 23 except for two that are scheduled for depositions before then...They have to be filed by Tues. When JP asked Bozo if he had anything else, he couldn't even speak, he was so angry...he just glared and barely shook his head "no"...I loved it!! He is so incompetent!! I guess the bad thing about that is that KC can use it as a basis for appeal. Of course, Mason is on the team so it could be argued that he could have guided Bozo in a better direction. We know, though, that Bozo knows EVERYTHING and probably doesn't want any help from CM! crazy3 la la la :lol!:
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Post by artgal16 on Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:05 pm

I really believe that Casey is going for a mental illness defense - is she never going to cut her hair? Will it reach the floor soon - is she channeling Rapunzel?
And where is George? Is he working?
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Posted: 11:13 am EST December 10, 2010
Updated: 6:35 pm EST December 10, 2010

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Judge Belvin Perry wasted no time handing down his order over expert testimony in the case against Casey Anthony, applying the same rules to both the prosecution and defense.

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Casey Anthony was in court Friday for the 5:00pm hearing in the fight over her defense team's expert witnesses. While 5:00pm was an unusual time for a court hearing, it was the only time everyone could agree on.

Casey smiled as she walked into the courtroom (see images | watch video) just after 5:00pm wearing a striped blue and white long-sleeve, button down shirt and then sat down next to her attorney, Jose Baez, at the defense's table.

Prosecutors say Jose Baez is not playing nice and has refused to give up more information about his expert witnesses. Prosecutors in the case against Casey want to know exactly what expert witnesses for the defense will talk about when they reach the stand in her murder trial.

"I quite frankly don’t know why we're here," Baez told Judge Perry after the state put forth their reason for wanting the hearing. "I think this is a huge waste of time that could have been resolved with a phone call."

Last month, Judge Perry ordered Baez to hand over a detailed list of what his expert witnesses would be testifying too, but assistant state attorney Jeffrey Ashton says that list wasn't good enough.

But Judge Perry wasn't going to waste much time on the back and forth bickering over the subject and issued an order that applies to both sides.

"Since ya'll can't seem to agree and can't seem to understand what I meant the last time. This is what I'm going to do," Judge Perry said less than 15 minutes into the hearing. "Where experts have not prepared reports of examinations or tests, both the state and the defense are required to provide the following … the expert's curriculum vitae, qualifications of experts, the expert's field of expertise or medical specialty, a statement of the specific subjects upon which the expert will testify and offer opinions, the substance of the facts to which the expert is expected to testify, and last but not least, a summary of the expert's opinion and grounds for each opinion … All of this must be completed by 3pm on December 23."

WFTV obtained back and forth emails between Ashton and Baez where the prosecutor told Baez to send a more in-depth list. Instead, Baez responded with a condescending tone.

For instance, he wrote next to Dr. Henry Lee: "He inspected the car and was at the evidence inspection and inspected the scene. All of which, you already know".

For Dr. Jane H. Bock, Baez wrote: "Inspected the scene and will testify about botany. Please tell me you knew this."

"This response is almost juvenile in its context and I would expect the court is going to compel Mr. Baez to comply with the court's order," Sheaffer said.

Now both sides are being forced to 'get along' and provide expert reports as ordered.

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Post by artgal16 on Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:04 am

I see that Baez is now using Casey language
"this hearing your honor was a waste - a huge waste!"
The Judge is not Cindy - hes not going to put up with their BS thank goodness.
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Artgal, you crack me up. The insanity plea channeling RapunZel? Maybe they won't allow anyone around her with sharp objects, or maybe Bozo is telling her all men Love long hair and her hair is beautiful and it will make the male juror's think twice. God only knows what he puts in that pea brain of hers.

He knew Exactly WHY he was in court. The problem is, I do not think he knows exactly what his expert's expertises are...he is that dumb. la la la

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The problem is, I do not think he knows exactly what his expert's expertises are...he is that dumb.

I agree, Wrap...He is in way over his head. It's hard to take incriminating evidence and try to put another spin on it via experts. I don't think he knows what to do with what he DOESN"T have!!
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Sorry Linda - proof of what?
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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:24 am

I don't understand who reported that Baez wife is pregnant. I can't find anything anywhere. Besides that Lillian Glass article.
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Post by lisette on Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:04 pm

LM, I think it was in a detective's notes that talked with one of the prisoners that was cozy with KC in jail...I forget which one. I think she told the detective that KC was upset when she found out Mrs. Baez was pregnant. So you can take that with a grain of salt, I think. I'm sorry that I don't have a link for that, and don't have time to look right now, but that is what I remember...Probably look for "detective's notes" in one of the last doc dumps...
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Post by raine1953 on Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:14 pm

LM, I got curious after you questioned where it said besides the Dr. Lillian Glass article and since I wrote about the pregnancy I looked too and could find nothing but the Glass article which refers to a document dump where a detective wrote in his notes that KC was upset due to the pregnancy - just as Lisette said. I found the link - it's below.

CASEY’S ANGER AT JOSE’S WIFE BEING PREGNANT

The document which were released show just how much she misinterpreted their meeting and interactions. The dectective’s notes say that Casey was upset when she found out Jose’s wife was pregnant.

Obviously Casey manufactured in her disturbed mind that she and Jose were in a relationship. So she reacted like a jealous girlfriend who found out her boyfriend impregnated another woman. This was Jose’s wife. Her narcissism would not allow her to see that he had any other life outside of her. It is disturbing to see how proprietary she became over Jose.

There are other implications here as well, with Jose creating life while she allegedly took away a life . She even may have even fantasized about having a baby with Jose. Now that his wife was having his baby, she got upset and jealous that it was not her who was having the baby with Jose.
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