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Post by bringthemhome on Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:07 am

NosyNeighbor wrote:Thanks so much bringthemhome for the hard and tedious work of collecting and briliantly putting all of the numerous..chaotic.. discombobulated statements of Billie together and then posting for us to reference..Thanks so much!

YW........I want everyone to feel free to add, the jumbled issue was part mine too as I did it rather quickly, but my main point when I started it was to show how manipulative she is, and I think she is far more manupilative than Shawn to be honest. ETA, I also never finshed it as there was so much more sadly

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Post by CritterFan1 on Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:49 am

BTH, after reading what you wrote up thread, I started thinking about the text that Hailey supposedly sent MB. Would have taken SA a couple of seconds to scroll through contacts, pick out someone at random and send a text.
I am so confused about all of the talk about BD's cell phone. She mentions it all of the time. She says she left the phone at home for the kids to use to call her. Then why would the witch be interviewed and mention she did not have her cell phone with her right then. Excuse me! If my daughter was missing, my phone would be w/me every second of every day, just in case Hailey called her for help. IMO, drugs and alcohol have fried BD's brain. Also, it is easier to remember the truth than lies. IMO, this is why there all the inconsistencies.
Even if SA was my husband and was a POI, he would be out of the house until proven not guilty. What is with her. The fact that she mentions that the low point for her was SA being a POI is disgusting. What about Hailey? she is missing and BD is hanging around SA, WAITING for people to remind her about things like the balloon release in honor of Hailey. No way I would need to be reminded. She may be so laid back from the anxiety medication that she is a zombie. She reminds me of a zombie when being interviewed. No inflection in her voice. No holding back tears when talking about Hailey. Talking about Hailey in the past tense. Knowing what Haliey was wearing that day, saying Hailey told her what she was wearing that day. Bull Dookey. Who calls their mother to tell them what they are wearing? I am not slandering BD, just have things so jumbled in my mind, I am trying to make sense of all of the "junk" spilling out of BD's mouth.
Her fav song must be "stand by your man".
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Post by raine1953 on Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:18 am

CritterFan1 wrote:BTH, after reading what you wrote up thread, I started thinking about the text that Hailey supposedly sent MB. Would have taken SA a couple of seconds to scroll through contacts, pick out someone at random and send a text.
I am so confused about all of the talk about BD's cell phone. She mentions it all of the time. She says she left the phone at home for the kids to use to call her. Then why would the witch be interviewed and mention she did not have her cell phone with her right then. Excuse me! If my daughter was missing, my phone would be w/me every second of every day, just in case Hailey called her for help. IMO, drugs and alcohol have fried BD's brain. Also, it is easier to remember the truth than lies. IMO, this is why there all the inconsistencies.
She may be so laid back from the anxiety medication that she is a zombie. She reminds me of a zombie when being interviewed.
Her fav song must be "stand by your man".

Critter, I know you didn't mean to be funny at all but you are ------> fav song, 'stand by your man'. ROFLMAO ROFLMAO It's so damn sad to read this thread and you put the first smile on my face with that one!
Re: Billie not having her cell phone with her during the interview. LE confiscated both her phone and Shawn's, that's why she doesn't have a phone. I would do anything I could to get that phone back, out of LE's hands just on the off chance that my daughter would be calling it if that was me but I don't know what Billie's reaction to LE was.
Re: Billie being emotionless, she sure is. My assumption on it is that at the very least her Dr probably put her on anti depressants and/or anxiety meds when this all took place. I'm not making any excuses for her, but if my child were missing I would have to medicated just to stay a little bit calm.
I don't know what to think about all of the info I read on this thread anymore. I'm still trying to believe that Billie didn't have anything to do with Hailey being missing. I'm still trying to believe that Billie is in love with being in love and that's what is responsible for the way that she's acting. I dunno........
I do believe that there's quite a few internet rumors being repeated, JMOO. I think when this amount of time passes with no new info that people get frustrated and tend to pick apart just anything and in some cases, it makes a mountain out of a mole hill. Hopefully, in time there will be answers to some of this.
I just pray that Hailey is somehow out there, safe, but I doubt it.
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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:34 am

WOWZA! I just finished reading BTH's synopsis and timeline. Thanks so much for all the info. IMO, it was pretty much spot on. Bottom line: BD Lies and Lies some more. She is extremely inconsistent.

BTH, I thank you for all your hard work in putting this together. My only "gripe" is the CAPS to get your point across. I perceive it as yelling & it gives me a massive headache head bang

I still do not think that BD was directly involved in the disappearance of Hailey; however, I think she most definitely knows more than she is saying to the media and the fact that she is wanting Shawn back speaks Volumes to me of where her priorities really lie.

I also wanted to touch base on this that was posted upthread:


2. A few days prior to Christmas, what caused you to take all of Hailey's gifts out from under the Christmas tree and put them in your bedroom? Unless you literally stood in BD's living room and watched her move Hailey's gifts to the bedroom, or have a link w/BD saying she moved the gifts, this is merely speculation.

3. What happened in your home last spring that caused Hailey/David to have to call LE to your home on you? Again, where is the link to prove this?

Oh and just one more: how soon will you be able to get the $800.00 55 inch flat screen off layaway that you purchased this past week at Alco?"
LOL on this one..did this person see BD putting a 55 inch flatscreen on layaway? Seriously, this is petty IMO and has absolutely zero to do w/Hailey missing. IF this is true, it shows she is getting money from donations and using it to purchase items SHE wants. But, where is the proof?

BTH, you backed up each and every statement BD made and that is how to do it. I thank you for that!!


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Post by jeanne1807 on Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:34 am

This is all becoming a blur to me. I went back and read Billie on the NG show explaining the 911 call and to tell you the truth...it made no sense.

I think most of us wanted to believe in Billie. That she was a mother like us and was hoodwinked by Shawn.

As time has gone on we find that Billie is just as evil as any of them.

I truly believe when I look at Billie I see the devil.

Poor, poor Hailey. What her life must have been.

I am really interested in that Red Car at Billies house.

Even if it was purchased from a convicted felon and drug dealer. Coincidence? I think not.

I think CZ has vanished because even this one is too big for her.
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Post by jeanne1807 on Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:38 am

Actually I am not sure what happened. Was Billie Confused, Was Nancy trying to sensationalize this story or did LE get it wrong. No wonder they can't find Hailey.

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GRACE: Billie, what happened surrounding your 911 calls regarding Shawn Adkins threatening to kill you and Hailey?

BILLIE DUNN: OK. He didn`t threaten to kill Hailey. They weren`t frantic 911 calls. I called the police from work because Shawn had been threatening me, and he said he was coming to my house while I was at work and I didn`t want him in here. And he was making threats to my life.

GRACE: OK. In the affidavits, the police affidavits, it states that you said he had threatened to kill you and Hailey. So were you telling the truth...

BILLIE DUNN: He said that. I never said that.

GRACE: Who said that?

BILLIE DUNN: I was, and I didn`t say that in the affidavit. I think it says Shawn actually admitted saying that.

GRACE: So tell me why you called 911?
BILLIE DUNN: I called the police station from work because he was threatening -- he was threatening my life. He was saying he was going to come to my house and get a T-shirt. I didn`t want him in here getting anything when I wasn`t here.

GRACE: I`ve got the police affidavit right here. Colorado City police respond to 1804 Chestnut. Adkins alleged to have threatened to kill Billie Jean (ph) Dunn and Hailey Dunn during the dispute. Adkins informs investigators he never did that, but later confirmed he did threaten both of them. So the call was not made by him. The information was given by you. He first denied it. And then he confirmed it.

BILLIE DUNN: Well, I did, too. I denied it, too, because if he had ever told me that he was going to kill Hailey or David, he wouldn`t have been anywhere around.

GRACE: So all of your 911 calls were just because you were afraid that he was coming into your house without your authority?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. And he was threatening me. I didn`t want him here.

GRACE: He was threatening you, saying what?

BILLIE DUNN: I can`t even remember now, but I know he was threatening to kill me and Clint, Hailey`s dad.

GRACE: Well, in this police affidavit, it says that Adkins alleged to have threatened to threatened to kill Billie Jean Dunn and Hailey Dunn during the dispute. And my question is, even if he hadn`t threatened to kill Hailey and the police have it all wrong, why did you think it was OK to take him back in?

BILLIE DUNN: We had a rocky relationship. The last year, things have been really good. The last six months, things have been
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Post by janie on Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:45 am

Critter you were so right! Billie seems to be a stand by your man kind of woman. Since this case is so similar to HaLeigh Cummings I keep expecting SA and Billie to get engaged just like good old Ron and Misty Croslin! I still don't understand why she doesn't think Shawn was capable of harming Hailey! She sure seemed to take his threats seriously when it was about her and Clint. crazy3
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Post by gnreed on Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:49 am

janie wrote:Critter you were so right! Billie seems to be a stand by your man kind of woman. Since this case is so similar to HaLeigh Cummings I keep expecting SA and Billie to get engaged just like good old Ron and Misty Croslin! I still don't understand why she doesn't think Shawn was capable of harming Hailey! She sure seemed to take his threats seriously when it was about her and Clint. crazy3

My belief is that she is involved. Standing by her man is her ONLY choice. Going against him would be a disaster. SA would tell all. He almost did during questioning after he failed the polys.
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Post by jeanne1807 on Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:22 am

janie wrote:Critter you were so right! Billie seems to be a stand by your man kind of woman. Since this case is so similar to HaLeigh Cummings I keep expecting SA and Billie to get engaged just like good old Ron and Misty Croslin! I still don't understand why she doesn't think Shawn was capable of harming Hailey! She sure seemed to take his threats seriously when it was about her and Clint. crazy3

Yes I too would not be suprised if that happened. But then there is the Happily Every After that Ron and Misty are now experiencing.

Wishing the happy couple the same..future. crazy 1
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Post by jeanne1807 on Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:25 am

gnreed I am really itching for more info on that red car. I can't believe it was purchased from a drug dealer and given to DD.

Coincidence? I think not. I think they are all up to their eyeballs in this one.

By the way I think you might have been right about NYE. I know you and I went at it a bit.

I thought Billie a mother worried about her child as I would be could never hold a party. I believe I was mistaken.

I see a whole lot of Billie and Casey. Both liars and both party girls.

How come CZ disappears when the questions get hard?

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Post by gnreed on Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:53 am

This happens way too often:

Mother, Boyfriend Charged In Death Of Her 5-Year-Old SonPOSTED: 8:17 am CST February 21, 2011
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ODESSA, Texas (AP) -- The mother of a 5-year-old Odessa boy and her boyfriend have been charged in connection with her son's death.

Ector County Jail Records indicate 27-year-old Kimberly Moore and 25-year-old Ralph Martinez Jr. were held Monday on charges of injury to a child. Both were arrested late Sunday, hours after the death of Zachary Dominguez.

The Odessa American reports police were called to a home where a child was reported in cardiac arrest.

Cpl. Sherrie Carruth says the boy was declared dead at a hospital. Carruth says investigators believe the boy had suffered multiple injuries over a length of time. An autopsy has been ordered.

Electronic jail records did not list attorneys for Moore and Martinez.

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Post by truthbtold on Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:57 am

gnreed wrote:
janie wrote:Critter you were so right! Billie seems to be a stand by your man kind of woman. Since this case is so similar to HaLeigh Cummings I keep expecting SA and Billie to get engaged just like good old Ron and Misty Croslin! I still don't understand why she doesn't think Shawn was capable of harming Hailey! She sure seemed to take his threats seriously when it was about her and Clint. crazy3

My belief is that she is involved. Standing by her man is her ONLY choice. Going against him would be a disaster. SA would tell all. He almost did during questioning after he failed the polys.
They are bonded for life.

I agree, Shawn has a major role in this charade, but Billie is the director. Since week 2, I've been convinced that Billie is actively involved. I don't believe she is in denial or blinded by undying love. I tried very hard to see it from that angle, but her words and actions clearly indicate guilty knowledge, imo. These two are now joined at the hip due to complicity. If one goes down, the other goes down too... Shawn seems like an experienced liar, but not a good one, imo. He didn't fool LE and very few people seem to believe he is uninvolved. Some people still believe Billie is just naive or stupid, I don't think so. She's not keenly intelligent, imo, but she's crafty and manipulative. She needs to stay close to Shawn to keep him reined in. Not saying she doesn't enjoy keeping him close and under control, these two seem to like drama and head games (as evidenced in their Valentines Day 2010 911 extravaganza). Just agreeing it's a requirement for her to stay close to Shawn, not only a choice. JMO...
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Post by bringthemhome on Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:05 pm

Wrapitup wrote:WOWZA! I just finished reading BTH's synopsis and timeline. Thanks so much for all the info. IMO, it was pretty much spot on. Bottom line: BD Lies and Lies some more. She is extremely inconsistent.

BTH, I thank you for all your hard work in putting this together. My only "gripe" is the CAPS to get your point across. I perceive it as yelling & it gives me a massive headache head bang

I still do not think that BD was directly involved in the disappearance of Hailey; however, I think she most definitely knows more than she is saying to the media and the fact that she is wanting Shawn back speaks Volumes to me of where her priorities really lie.

I also wanted to touch base on this that was posted upthread:


2. A few days prior to Christmas, what caused you to take all of Hailey's gifts out from under the Christmas tree and put them in your bedroom? Unless you literally stood in BD's living room and watched her move Hailey's gifts to the bedroom, or have a link w/BD saying she moved the gifts, this is merely speculation.

3. What happened in your home last spring that caused Hailey/David to have to call LE to your home on you? Again, where is the link to prove this?

Oh and just one more: how soon will you be able to get the $800.00 55 inch flat screen off layaway that you purchased this past week at Alco?"
LOL on this one..did this person see BD putting a 55 inch flatscreen on layaway? Seriously, this is petty IMO and has absolutely zero to do w/Hailey missing. IF this is true, it shows she is getting money from donations and using it to purchase items SHE wants. But, where is the proof?

BTH, you backed up each and every statement BD made and that is how to do it. I thank you for that!!


Thanks and sorry about the caps, I copied and pasted it so the caps came with it....

I agree with GNEED that Billie has to stick up for him and keep him close, after I read the info from the poly's I thought he is the weakest link and she could see it. Sick sick sick
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Post by charminglane on Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:24 pm

Since the FBI does not list Hailey as missing, could she be in hiding/left on her own accord?
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Post by Boston_Lady on Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:49 pm

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GRACE: Billie, what happened surrounding your 911 calls regarding Shawn Adkins threatening to kill you and Hailey?

BILLIE DUNN: OK. He didn`t threaten to kill Hailey. They weren`t frantic 911 calls. I called the police from work because Shawn had been threatening me, and he said he was coming to my house while I was at work and I didn`t want him in here. And he was making threats to my life.

GRACE: OK. In the affidavits, the police affidavits, it states that you said he had threatened to kill you and Hailey. So were you telling the truth...

BILLIE DUNN: He said that. I never said that.

GRACE: Who said that?

BILLIE DUNN: I was, and I didn`t say that in the affidavit. I think it says Shawn actually admitted saying that.




So what Billie just said here is that Shawn "did" in fact threaten Hailey. All Billie was saying is that Billie didn't report Shawn as saying it. She is very very very very devious. She gives half truths.

And as far as the questions I posted, those are just that...questions that the person wanted to ask Billie Dunn had she appeared on the radio show. I thought the questions themselves were shocking. And I wondered if there could be any truth to them. Again, sorry if that was confusing. thinking

My personal opinion is that Billie is involved. She sounded more animated when she called the police to report Shawn's threat to come get his t shirt than she did reporting Hailey missing on NG.

I stayed up late, last night, watching the NG interviews on You Tube. Billie looked horrible in those first few interviews. But, as time went by, she looked more rested with hair and make up done. I can't help but read into this that the further away from the incident that caused Hailey to "disappear" the stronger she feels. I believe she and Shawn are getting more and more comfortable with the fact that Hailey will never be found and that "the mess" will go away and they can live their lives, free.

I hope this isn't the case. crazy 1
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Post by Boston_Lady on Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:54 pm

Charminglane writes: Since the FBI does not list Hailey as missing, could she be in hiding/left on her own accord?

I don't think so. The CCity Police are pursing this as a criminal case. I hope they can put the pieces together and make some arrests.

It is unfathomable that Billie Dunn flaunts her relationship with Shawn in front of all in town. This is such a slap in the face to all the searchers who have given up their personal time, funding to search for her daughter.

I just can't get past this.
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Post by truthbtold on Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:55 pm

charminglane wrote:Since the FBI does not list Hailey as missing, could she be in hiding/left on her own accord?

I think it's possible and I don't think LE has ruled out the possibility. Sparky Dean, Senior Trooper from the Rangers, stated flat out during the first week that he thought Hailey was in hiding. It's possible, imo, that LE considers this a criminal investigation now not only because it might involve foul play and physical harm to Hailey, but because they still believe Hailey might be in hiding and suspect she is remaining undetected with help from adults close to her. If she's been in hiding for this long, I think there must have been a plan and adult participation (and Hailey may have been forced). This is one of my theories. If true, it makes some sense out of the strangest and least compassionate plea to a missing child that I've ever heard:

From Nancy Grace trancript: 1/20/11:


DUNN: I know that they did question him well. They did search the house that he was living in here next door. They said they searched it well. He`s not a suspect. I don`t know if they know where he went to or not. I believe he`s still in town. And Nancy, I wanted to get a message out to Hailey, if she is watching and she happens to get to a phone, to call 911. Because I do not have my cell phone.

GRACE: And what is your message? To call 911?

DUNN: Yes. Get out there, if you can get to a phone, run to a phone and call 911. Because I don`t have my cell phone with me. And I know she knows that number.

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Billie sure wanted somebody to know that her cell phone was still being held as evidence by police. Billie and her internet friend claimed early on that her cell phone was sitting in an evidence drawer unanswered and it was so unfair to Billie to take her phone. I call major B.S. on that; not the case and they know it, imo. You better believe the FBI or other LE agency has been monitoring incoming calls to Billie's cell (and Shawn's too) since the get-go. So, was Billie sending a message to a hidden Hailey not to call her cell phone as originally planned and not to leave a message!? Or, was Billie sending a message to people who might be calling her phone for transactions? IDK, but even Nancy Grace was speechless after Billie's message. So strange. Of course a 13 year old would know to call 911. And, if you know LE has your cell phone and you are not involved in your child's disappearance, why would you caution your missing child not to call it?

My second theory, based on all the facts and info to date, is much more dire.
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Post by charminglane on Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:05 pm

Mine, too.

I asked upthread about the floor plan of the house. If Hailey's room was located next to BD and SA's room. If it is, she heard some nasty things going on in there. I would have slept on the couch, too.
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Post by charminglane on Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:14 pm

BD is living in Clint's house that he inherited.
Since his daughter is missing, and at this moment not living there, and POI is seen there, shouldn't Clint get BD the hello out of there!!!!!
Shake up her controlled world?
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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:55 pm

charminglane wrote:Mine, too.

I asked upthread about the floor plan of the house. If Hailey's room was located next to BD and SA's room. If it is, she heard some nasty things going on in there. I would have slept on the couch, too.
Bingo I believe you are right on the mark with why Hailey was sleeping on the couch, depending on the layout of the house.
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Post by jeanne1807 on Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:51 pm

charminglane wrote:Mine, too.

I asked upthread about the floor plan of the house. If Hailey's room was located next to BD and SA's room. If it is, she heard some nasty things going on in there. I would have slept on the couch, too.

I have an idea BD's bedroom was way on the other side of the house. Remember when we saw pictures of the home and there was two doors. I think at one time it was a duplex but has been made into a single home. So I think bedrooms would be on opposite sides of the home.

At least I am praying they are.
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GRACE: Billie, what happened surrounding your 911 calls regarding Shawn Adkins threatening to kill you and Hailey?

BILLIE DUNN: OK. He didn`t threaten to kill Hailey. They weren`t frantic 911 calls. I called the police from work because Shawn had been threatening me, and he said he was coming to my house while I was at work and I didn`t want him in here. And he was making threats to my life.

GRACE: OK. In the affidavits, the police affidavits, it states that you said he had threatened to kill you and Hailey. So were you telling the truth...

BILLIE DUNN: He said that. I never said that.

GRACE: Who said that?

BILLIE DUNN: I was, and I didn`t say that in the affidavit. I think it says Shawn actually admitted saying that.




So what Billie just said here is that Shawn "did" in fact threaten Hailey. All Billie was saying is that Billie didn't report Shawn as saying it. She is very very very very devious. She gives half truths.

And as far as the questions I posted, those are just that...questions that the person wanted to ask Billie Dunn had she appeared on the radio show. I thought the questions themselves were shocking. And I wondered if there could be any truth to them. Again, sorry if that was confusing. thinking

My personal opinion is that Billie is involved. She sounded more animated when she called the police to report Shawn's threat to come get his t shirt than she did reporting Hailey missing on NG.

I stayed up late, last night, watching the NG interviews on You Tube. Billie looked horrible in those first few interviews. But, as time went by, she looked more rested with hair and make up done. I can't help but read into this that the further away from the incident that caused Hailey to "disappear" the stronger she feels. I believe she and Shawn are getting more and more comfortable with the fact that Hailey will never be found and that "the mess" will go away and they can live their lives, free.

I hope this isn't the case. crazy 1

ITA about Billie going from looking like I'd expect to getting all dolled up, when my grandson died I looked like sh!t for months, and didn't care either - just getting a shower and my teeth brushed, then off to work was an accomplishment so I can't imagine even putting on makeup and all the crap to look good would enter her mind.

WRT this 911 call, I pointed this out in my long rant about inconcistencies.....she had NO problem calling 911 from work to report her ex might come by and get his t-shirt which was the original call, so WTH not bother to call 911 when she so sure her daughter is missing. Was the t-shirt more important than her own daughter?? It's things like this that make people shake their heads and question her loyalty to her daughter. I think she used 911 more often thanthe rest of us would......I'd NEVER call if my ex wanted a t-shirt. I agree
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Post by bringthemhome on Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:17 pm

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charminglane wrote:Mine, too.

I asked upthread about the floor plan of the house. If Hailey's room was located next to BD and SA's room. If it is, she heard some nasty things going on in there. I would have slept on the couch, too.
Bingo I believe you are right on the mark with why Hailey was sleeping on the couch, depending on the layout of the house.

I think she slept on the couch so she wouldn't be in a closed space where she was moe vunerable.......sick I know, but it's my gut feeling. I understand her laying on it before bed due to her wanting to watch TV, and my kids used to do that - but they got up and went t their own room when they wanted to sleep so others going to the kitchen etc thru the night wouldn't disturb them.
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It sounds like the search was a zoo this weekend and lots of time was wasted with drama when it could have been spent searching for Hailey. Below is a comment from a FB page for Hailey.

My husband & I drove four hours to assist in the search & I'll tell you what. I have NEVER been so dissapointed in my life. I will say I did meet a few good people there, but the vast majority of people disgusted me. What was supposed to be a massive search for a little girl, turned into a high school soap opera. People talking behind one another's backs, judging people they didn't know & there was evidence that was ignored because people THOUGHT they was criminal investigators or forensic scientist. I don't care who gets mad at me, if I'm banned. But THIS IS NOT about HIGH SCHOOL DRAMA, WHO DOES WHAT, WHO LIKES WHO...IT'S ABOUT HAILEY !!!!!!

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Post by bringthemhome on Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:24 pm

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charminglane wrote:Since the FBI does not list Hailey as missing, could she be in hiding/left on her own accord?

I think it's possible and I don't think LE has ruled out the possibility. Sparky Dean, Senior Trooper from the Rangers, stated flat out during the first week that he thought Hailey was in hiding. It's possible, imo, that LE considers this a criminal investigation now not only because it might involve foul play and physical harm to Hailey, but because they still believe Hailey might be in hiding and suspect she is remaining undetected with help from adults close to her. If she's been in hiding for this long, I think there must have been a plan and adult participation (and Hailey may have been forced). This is one of my theories. If true, it makes some sense out of the strangest and least compassionate plea to a missing child that I've ever heard:

From Nancy Grace trancript: 1/20/11:


DUNN: I know that they did question him well. They did search the house that he was living in here next door. They said they searched it well. He`s not a suspect. I don`t know if they know where he went to or not. I believe he`s still in town. And Nancy, I wanted to get a message out to Hailey, if she is watching and she happens to get to a phone, to call 911. Because I do not have my cell phone.

GRACE: And what is your message? To call 911?

DUNN: Yes. Get out there, if you can get to a phone, run to a phone and call 911. Because I don`t have my cell phone with me. And I know she knows that number.

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Billie sure wanted somebody to know that her cell phone was still being held as evidence by police. Billie and her internet friend claimed early on that her cell phone was sitting in an evidence drawer unanswered and it was so unfair to Billie to take her phone. I call major B.S. on that; not the case and they know it, imo. You better believe the FBI or other LE agency has been monitoring incoming calls to Billie's cell (and Shawn's too) since the get-go. So, was Billie sending a message to a hidden Hailey not to call her cell phone as originally planned and not to leave a message!? Or, was Billie sending a message to people who might be calling her phone for transactions? IDK, but even Nancy Grace was speechless after Billie's message. So strange. Of course a 13 year old would know to call 911. And, if you know LE has your cell phone and you are not involved in your child's disappearance, why would you caution your missing child not to call it?

My second theory, based on all the facts and info to date, is much more dire.


I I agree

Also didn't CZ state on WS that they got Billie another phone....I too thought her emphasis on "I don't have my cell phone" was a signal of sort, and was appaled that she used that as her message to her daughter. Even NG gave her a chance for a re-do, but nope she still used the time to state the phone crap again.

I also think he has to stand by Shawn, if he goes down then she will IMO, and also like stated earlier he is the weak link not Billie.....she is far to controlled and manipulative to be broken, but Shawn seemed to have given up more info on the poly which is why he walked out. She knew this once the affadavits were released and knew she better get him under control ASAP.

If I were Clint I'd want the house back too, he is the one with a family now.....she doesn't even have David thank goodness so I'd kick her out so fast it would make her head spin.
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Post by NosyNeighbor on Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:21 pm

Couple questions..

Where did we get the info that BD says that Hailey called her that day{the 27th}and told her what she was wearing..and thats how BJD knew what to give as the Missing description..I'd never heard this so am very interested to hear where it came from..

I am very saddened to read this about the search and all the stupid childish drama that was taking place.. I am hoping that this was only one small group{as thats how they're broken up per gnreed and then in small groups they go out to search}..so I'm praying that this was just the case in this woman's group of a very few of the searchers..

Then about Clint and the home on Chestnut that is rightfully his thru inheritance and IMO only reason is for David and Hailey that he allowed this witch to have it.. and so with my wholeheart I feel he should oust this cold hearted wench and her masked boy-toy lover..as both children are no longer living in the home..Let these two live in her new donated maroon van..they can have their effed up story time holed up in that van and then go find them a spot at the local campground with electricity and even hook up their brand new flat screen{and even if they cant get it out of layaway}they always have the new flatscreen thats in Hailey's room as they made certain she'd not be around to enjoy it..

My stomach turns when I think of Billie and much like jeanne I too see evil when I look in her dead souless eyes..the wrath of Billie Jean's evil for anything or anyone{inclluding her only daughter}that stands in her way of happiness..which she herself has admitted what brings her happiness in the telling of their sick "hobbies"..

Sadly Clint will not take that house back even tho its in the best interest of his new and growing family.. He will not because he has felt the evil wrath of Billie Jean for many years..He know personally what hell this wench can cause and inflict on a person that dares cross her.. He fears her and ya know what the more I have learned of her and who and what she is the more I completely understand why and how Clint Dunn became a man dependent on pot.. IMO its the only way he survived this person that unfortunately the whole world now knows the name of.. Miss Billie Jean Ostrander Dunn!

TIA to anyone who knows about the call to BJD from Hailey on the 27th re:what she was wearing...
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Post by charminglane on Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:28 pm

I have never heard that the description of clothing came from Hailey to her mother on the phone.
The only clothing description I have heard came from SA.
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Post by gnreed on Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:28 pm

I did not see or witness anyone not getting along during the searches. There were numerous groups of 10 that were sent out with maps showing the location to be searched. I know our group got along fine. I can't speak for the others, but I didn't see or hear any conflicts.

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Post by sweets on Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:36 pm

Hi Everyone,
gneed, if you are here and feel comfortable enough to respond did you notice any of the bickering and such amongst the search groups while you were there ( or anyone that may be aware of this ). In that same article it stated that Hailey's Angels also patted themselves on the back at the vigil/dinner (alledgedly). I don't know why an non local would make up this stuff and there has been some mention back a week or so about this group turning away volunteer searchers for walking to slow during searches or some even for having a different view of the case. I don't know if any of this is true but if it is I sure wish someone could step in and bring everybody together in their search for Hailey. It alsmost sounds like the search groups have broke down into different sides just like BD and CD has. Man what a mess of a search. It is difficult enough to search without the extra hoopla behind the scenes.

I did copy the post off the comments section where this is stated as I have found a lot of this stuff goes POOF after a bit. All JMO.

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Post by NosyNeighbor on Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:38 pm

CritterFan1 wrote:BTH, after reading what you wrote up thread, I started thinking about the text that Hailey supposedly sent MB. Would have taken SA a couple of seconds to scroll through contacts, pick out someone at random and send a text.
I am so confused about all of the talk about BD's cell phone. She mentions it all of the time. She says she left the phone at home for the kids to use to call her. Then why would the witch be interviewed and mention she did not have her cell phone with her right then. Excuse me! If my daughter was missing, my phone would be w/me every second of every day, just in case Hailey called her for help. IMO, drugs and alcohol have fried BD's brain. Also, it is easier to remember the truth than lies. IMO, this is why there all the inconsistencies.
Even if SA was my husband and was a POI, he would be out of the house until proven not guilty. What is with her. The fact that she mentions that the low point for her was SA being a POI is disgusting. What about Hailey? she is missing and BD is hanging around SA, WAITING for people to remind her about things like the balloon release in honor of Hailey. No way I would need to be reminded. She may be so laid back from the anxiety medication that she is a zombie. She reminds me of a zombie when being interviewed. No inflection in her voice. No holding back tears when talking about Hailey. Talking about Hailey in the past tense. Knowing what Haliey was wearing that day, saying Hailey told her what she was wearing that day. Bull Dookey. Who calls their mother to tell them what they are wearing? I am not slandering BD, just have things so jumbled in my mind, I am trying to make sense of all of the "junk" spilling out of BD's mouth.
Her fav song must be "stand by your man".

above BBM.. This is what I was referring to about the call btwn BD and HD re:what she was wearing..
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Post by sweets on Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:40 pm

gnreed wrote:I did not see or witness anyone not getting along during the searches. There were numerous groups of 10 that were sent out with maps showing the location to be searched. I know our group got along fine. I can't speak for the others, but I didn't see or hear any conflicts.

Thank you and thank you for searching too. Have you heard or found out anything about the red firebird at BD's? and is it still there.

TIA jmo
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Post by gnreed on Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:43 pm

The Red car was gone yesterday afternoon as I was leaving C-City. Evidently it is running. I was not able to see who was driving it.

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Post by sweets on Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:45 pm

gnreed wrote:The Red car was gone yesterday afternoon as I was leaving C-City. Evidently it is running. I was not able to see who was driving it.

hmmmmm........interesting to say the least. I guess they got it fixed. jmo
thanks again.

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Post by gnreed on Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:13 pm

I just watched our local KTAB news story on the conflict with the searchers over the weekend.
BD was complaining about the local searchers and how they disrespected KLASSKIDS and the Laura Recovery group.
BD said she didn't appreciate the video the Hailey's Angels were showing during the Vigil and requested they turn it off.
BD stated the local group Hailey's Angels were also just after Shawn and didn't care about anything else.
BD, in my opinion, YOU ARE A VERY SICK PERSON.
I have had enough. I will continue to pray for Hailey but will not spend another dime looking for her. YOU and SHAWN are responsible. Once again, You are a very sick person along with your criminal/thug family.
CZ, takes up for you because her family is also dealing drugs. That is verified.

In my opinion, CZ knows what happened to Hailey as well. I don't need her coming to this site making excuses for your white trash lifestyle and the lies she tells.

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Post by NosyNeighbor on Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:25 pm

What in the hell is going on down there in CCity??????????

I am appalled that ppl are putting up with this sick Woman's rants and loads of BS..going as far as to slam and disrespect Hailey's angels..

What the hell? I have a very sick feeling that the sh*t is about to hit the fan IN A VERY BIG way!!!!!!

I only pray that one of these useless to society persons effs up and we learn of Hailey's location..To hell with the entire rest of them.. They'll all get theirs in the end..I WANT THIS PRECIOUS INNOCENT LITTLE GIRL HAILEY FOUND!
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Post by charminglane on Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:41 pm

"BD was complaining about the local searchers and how they disrespected KLASSKIDS and the Laura Recovery group.
BD said she didn't appreciate the video the Hailey's Angels were showing during the Vigil and requested they turn it off.
BD stated the local group Hailey's Angels were also just after Shawn and didn't care about anything else."

Well, if that don't beat all. head bang
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Post by sweets on Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:46 pm

I thought I would post this here in case anyone in the Dallas area would like to attend and Have not seen the article. Maybe since it will be national it will help get Hailey's face out there again front and center for all to see and maybe it will lead to some clues of where she may be if she did by some chance leave or was kidnapped or whatever..jmo

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Post by sweets on Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:55 pm

Let me add this too as it appears BD and CD are going to launch this site together..

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Billie says she and her estranged husband are uniting in the search for their daughter. The two also plan to launch a website,

HopeforHailey.com, this week.

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Post by gnreed on Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:10 pm

Well, some if not most around here believe this is just another attempt to get the heat off of them.
I know the Dallas event next weekend is a good cause, but to be honest, I believe the answer to the Hailey Dunn saga, lies in Colorado City and the surrounding area.
Just my opinion.

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Post by raine1953 on Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:16 pm

gnreed wrote:
CZ, takes up for you because her family is also dealing drugs. That is verified.
In my opinion, CZ knows what happened to Hailey as well. I don't need her coming to this site making excuses for your white trash lifestyle and the lies she tells.

gnreed, admin isn't online at the moment, so I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there is nothing verified that CZ knows what happened to Hailey and I think you are way out of line accusing CZ and her family of dealing drugs.
I know you are passionate about Hailey being missing but please refrain from making statements that are potentially slanderous to CZ and her family. If I am wrong in posting this, Wrap will let me kn
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Post by Boston_Lady on Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:17 pm

What a mess. And I read that Billie was yelling at Hailey's Angels right at the appreciation dinner. No class. And ungrateful.

Gnreed, I don't blame you for how you feel. You are a good person who has helped. you rock
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Post by gnreed on Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:19 pm

With all due respect, I really don't care if I offend CZ. Let her come on here and defend herself. I can't talk about it but she played a role in all this at the Vigil Saturday night.
Much more to come.
As far as dealing drugs, YES I can prove it. My post can be removed if it the admin. feels warranted. But the truth is the truth.

CZ can come online and either say it's true or deny it. If she denies it, I will post the info verifying it.

It won't be the first time I have been banned. The first time I was accused of being "hard on Billie". I apologized and the ban was lifted.

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Grneed, You were not banned for being hard on Billie. Where you got that is beyond me. You stated you wanted to be removed from VH and I backed it up by banning you. Now, you come onto My website and DEFAME someone without one shred of evidence. I will Not have it here. You have two choices. You can either right here and now, back up your defamation with FACTS or you will be banned. Period. I am giving you exactly one hour from the time of this post to decide.

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Post by bringthemhome on Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:35 pm

gnreed wrote:I just watched our local KTAB news story on the conflict with the searchers over the weekend.
BD was complaining about the local searchers and how they disrespected KLASSKIDS and the Laura Recovery group.
BD said she didn't appreciate the video the Hailey's Angels were showing during the Vigil and requested they turn it off.
BD stated the local group Hailey's Angels were also just after Shawn and didn't care about anything else.
BD, in my opinion, YOU ARE A VERY SICK PERSON.
I have had enough. I will continue to pray for Hailey but will not spend another dime looking for her. YOU and SHAWN are responsible. Once again, You are a very sick person along with your criminal/thug family.
CZ, takes up for you because her family is also dealing drugs. That is verified.

In my opinion, CZ knows what happened to Hailey as well. I don't need her coming to this site making excuses for your white trash lifestyle and the lies she tells.

Wow, what a cluster F......so sad because that type of animosity will drive searchers away, saw it during the HC case.

WTH would she even bring that up (Shawn ) directed to searchers who are looking for her child?
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Wrap, once again. I respect your site here but I am tired of worrying about hurting someones feelings.

I will also disagree with you over being banned. You did not like it when I said, "You may not agree, but Oh well."
You took offense to that and it said I was banned.
Once again, I have the verification and just asked CZ to come on here and admit it or deny it. If she denies, it, I will post it.

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Normal Re: #3 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX/ Search Affidavits - pages 4 and 21/ Billie denies knowledge of images of bestiality and child pornography on computer of Shawn Adkins, primary suspect, and memory stick found in Billie's home

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