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Post by Slys Hunny on Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:43 pm

They have searched other landfills but I dont think this was one of them. I could very well be wrong though.

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Post by Nama on Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:44 pm

Comment from the Help Find Hailey Dunn FB page:

I heard There are around 8 people with Haz Mat suits on and about 15 officers out there and a cadaver dog has made a hit on her scent thats the reason they are searching it.

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Post by raine1953 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:48 pm

Slys Hunny wrote:They have searched other landfills but I dont think this was one of them. I could very well be wrong though.
You are correct Slys Hunny. I think it was just one (Abilene?) but I could be wrong. I pray they do not find Hailey today, not in a landfill.
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Post by jeanne1807 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:50 pm

Thought I might as well just bring it over.


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Dogs are searching the landfill in Big Spring this afternoon looking for clues in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn, according to Colorado City city manager Pete Kampfer.

Investigators are searching the landfill as part of the elimination process of search areas.

The search may be related to follow ups on a combination of both new leads and old leads, Kampfer said.

Dunn, 13, was last seen on Dec. 27 at her home in Colorado City.
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Post by jeanne1807 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:52 pm

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Authorities Searching Big Spring Landfill in Connection with Hailey Dunn Case
Posted: Feb 22, 2011 12:29 PM CST
BIG SPRING - NewsWest9 has learned that authorities are searching the Big Spring landfill right now in connection with the Hailey Dunn case.

Colorado City Police are being assisted by the Big Spring Police Department and the Howard County Sheriff's Office.

Several area landfills, including those in Snyder and Abilene, have already been searched as part of the investigation.

13-year-old Hailey Dunn was last seen on December 27th in Colorado City. No charges have been filed in the case, but her mother's boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, has been named a person of interest.

NewsWest9 has a crew on the scene. Stay with NewsWest9 and NewsWest9.com for the latest on this developing story.
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Post by CritterFan1 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:53 pm

had a tour of the landfill at the Charlotte Motor Speedway. It was unreal. Acres and acres of small mountains of trash. Tough job to look for something/someone. Once out at that landfill a man's body was found. Never did ID the poor man.
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Post by Slys Hunny on Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:54 pm

I agree I hate the thought she could be in a landfill. That said finding her wherever she is needs to be done. With this group her being thrown away like rubish wouldnt suprise me. It will break my heart!
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Post by pepperann on Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:06 pm

samgoodwin - I think your post was right in the middle of the big news about the landfill search for Hailey but I so concur with what you said. I think what nosyneighbor did as far as her search efforts, making the T-shirts, and passing out the flyers even though she is miles away from Texas shows just how much Hailey is thought of elsewhere. As for czg, I agree with you on that as well. Maybe czg needs to step back for a moment and look at the big picture, and then she might realize that all was not peachy in the Dunn/Adkins' household and Hailey suffered the ultimate price for that.

This "mess" as Billie so kindly referred to it as is about a little girl's life and the possibility that someone who should have provided for her failed her. Hailey has gained much love from all over this country and I wish that she could see how much she is loved and thought of.

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Post by jeanne1807 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:06 pm

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Darlene Blevins I heard There are around 8 people with Haz Mat suits on and about 15 officers out there and a cadaver dog has made a hit on her scent thats the reason they are searching it.
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Post by Boston_Lady on Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:15 pm

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Darlene Blevins I heard There are around 8 people with Haz Mat suits on and about 15 officers out there and a cadaver dog has made a hit on her scent thats the reason they are searching it.


Maybe it is just something of hers that was thrown away? I have such an uneasy feeling right now.
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Post by jeanne1807 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:15 pm

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DeNeise Bennett Coates I dont believe its a cadaver dog. Its a SAR dog.

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Red Cross border collie, Italy, 1909.The use of dogs in search and rescue (SAR) is a valuable component in responding to law enforcement requests for missing people. Dedicated handlers and hard working, well-trained dogs are required in search efforts to be effective in their task.

Search and rescue (SAR) dogs detect human scent. Although the exact processes are still researched, it may include skin rafts (scent-carrying skin cells that drop off living humans at a rate of about 40,000 cells per minute)[1], evaporated perspiration, respiratory gases, or decomposition gases released by bacterial action on human skin or tissues.

Search and rescue dogs are typically worked by a small team on foot, but can be worked from horseback.
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Post by jeanne1807 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:17 pm

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GOOD NEWS!! I just got @RichelleCarey attention on Twitter about the landfill searches. She works for HLN if you all watch it you will know her! She thanked me for the tip! My goal is to get to HLN thus getting Nancy Grace onto it! Shoot Nancy an email [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Post by jeanne1807 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:18 pm

I am wondering if this "hit" came from the rescue groups that were here this weekend. I heard they brought dogs with them.
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Post by jeanne1807 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:32 pm

I never thought those gals would give up. LIke they said they have invested in finding Hailey.

Bless them and all who search for Hailey. It surely isn't pleasant work.

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Reversal: Hailey's Angels Reconsider, Won't Quit Search For Hailey DunnBy Jacqueline Hince, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:32 am CST February 22, 2011
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COLORADO CITY, Texas -- In a reversal Tuesday afternoon, the group calling itself Hailey's Angels said they cannot and will not quit searching for missing Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn.

Members of Hailey's Angels told KTXS News on Tuesday that they were too invested, they'd spent too many hours and energy over the past seven weeks to now quit the search.

The group, however, will search independently for Hailey Dunn, apart from other search organizations.

Hailey's Angels, one of the first groups to organize and search for Hailey Dunn, had said they would quit searching after it received negative reactions over the weekend.

Freda Radcliff, a member of Hailey's Angels, said the problems stemmed from a dinner for all searchers last Saturday. During the dinner, a video was played but was abruptly turned off after it upset Billie Jean Dunn, Hailey's mother.

Members of Hailey's Angels said their No. 1 goal has always been to find Hailey, and on Tuesday they said they couldn't quit because they had invested too much already.

KTXS News is trying to obtain a copy of the video that played.
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Post by CritterFan1 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:38 pm

jeanne1807 wrote:I am wondering if this "hit" came from the rescue groups that were here this weekend. I heard they brought dogs with them.
Jeanne, that is what I read and heard too, that they were using dogs in the search. OMG, I hope it is not Hailey, poor Hailey. It has been such a sad case. Most of us have fallen in love with her big smile, her precious face, what we have read about her being such a good girl at school. I think so many people feel like they know Hailey. I feel like I do.
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Post by Boston_Lady on Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:40 pm

I would like to see the video that caused so much angst.

And, I'm glad they are going to be back searching. They should only focus on Hailey and forget about Billie. Billie is so self involved..she isn't going to change.
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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:57 pm

I don't understand the whole video thing. Why would they play a Hailey video like a memorial at a dinner for the volunteers? To me that is to close to a memorial. The thing that bothers me about the Hailey's Angel group the most is that merchandise that is being sold. I know they said the money is going to fund the search. Well I am not sure I buy that. Plus did I read that possible evidence could have been destroyed by inexperienced searchers?
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Post by Nama on Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:01 pm

I think the only mdse that Hailey's Angels is selling is buttons according to the website.

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Post by Boston_Lady on Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:03 pm

I think you read that cz said that evidence was destroyed. I haven't seen an article or document indicating this... but then I'm not there !
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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:14 pm

lindamarie wrote:Wow I have been reading on this one thread for over an hour this morning. Out of all the posts I picked this one to quote because I agree with lisette. CZ should not be treated as badly as she has. I believe she was invited her by Jeanne. Was the invite so that people could slam her and her family? Why in the H*ll would her family be brought in to this? It has nothing to do with Hailey being missing. As far as banning someone one for posting things that can't be verified with a link then a whole bunch of people would have to be banned. This thread is getting way out of hand. This thread and the BS has cost me a friend/member that meant a lot to me already. I don't want to lose our loyal faithful members over this BS. I do think it is crap that TV's are being bought, and home remolding is going on when a young girl is missing is way hinky. I do happen to know a lot about depression and what Billie is doing does not fit with someone is experiencing depression. I feel bad that a dinner to honor those who have been searching was turned in to a war. That is sick. Poor Hailey. A quote from my good friend Laga "Hailey is still missing" can we get back to that please?

BBM!! LM, thanks for speaking up about this issue! I completely agree with you. I think we are all frustrated with this case: the length of time since Hailey has gone missing, all of the hours spent searching by volunteers, and the seeming lack of real interest by BD! We tend to take it out on each other (esp. on cz, as she is Billie's friend). But, the real focus should be on finding Hailey... wherever she might be (hopefully NOT in the landfill)!! 🇳🇴
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Post by Nama on Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:16 pm

Time for everyone to get over the childish antics they're pulling and find Hailey!

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It wasn't the video that made her think that. Apparently it is local women who are part of Hailey's Angels that have been discussing Shawn and billoie's secret meetings. That makes Billie very angry.

And Haileys Angels made Haileys Memorial bridge close to Shawns area just so he would have to see it and they have been searching nearby where he sits on his porch, and they all glare at each other. They are a thorn in Billie's side imo.

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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:18 pm

jeanne1807 wrote:There is a saying and it goes like this. "Make new friends but keep the old. One is silver and the other gold."

So to all my silver and gold if I said anything to hurt your feelings I apologize.

I will say "I lost my mind" in the heat of the moment.

We have good people here. We are getting more good people here. We shall be around for a long time..please join us.

Who knows someday you might just "need a friend" and we will be here for you too.

Well said, Jeanne! Bravo
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Post by jeanne1807 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:26 pm

From what I have read on the dinner. The HA's put on the benefit dinner. I thought earlier that the American Legion was doing it..but who knows. So it was their agenda to honor all of the searchers. All searchers were invited.

After dinner a video that the HA's had made was shown. It showed where they searched. The places they were going. Pretty rough I believe.

After it went on for a while both Billie and Clint and I believe DD became upset thinking of Hailey being found in those places.

So they stepped outside. I am sure somebody seeing them doing that asked..what is wrong. I believe they told them the film was upsetting them. Then the person asking them..went inside and asked that the film be turned off.

As I understand it the film was made by and presented by HA gals and they were not happy to turn it off.

There is a lot of other "stuff" that might have gone on. I don't know but that seems to be the main "what happened".

Those that were there can correct any errors. My words just come from reading blogs.
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Post by truthbtold on Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:38 pm

lindamarie wrote:I don't understand the whole video thing. Why would they play a Hailey video like a memorial at a dinner for the volunteers? To me that is to close to a memorial. The thing that bothers me about the Hailey's Angel group the most is that merchandise that is being sold. I know they said the money is going to fund the search. Well I am not sure I buy that. Plus did I read that possible evidence could have been destroyed by inexperienced searchers?

Hi lindmarie,
I understand that a video chronicling the search effort over the last 8 weeks was played because the event was supposed to be an appreciation dinner for the searchers. I believe czgtz and Billie thought it was distasteful that the search efforts and areas were the focus of the video and czgtz implied that more pictures of Hailey should have been shown. I get that, but I agree with you; that would feel more like a memorial and wouldn't fit the purpose of the dinner, imo...

I don't doubt tensions were high and I believe Billie when she says she was mad because some of the searchers clearly suspect Shawn. I find it hard to believe, however, that the local searchers "want Shawn to be guilty of harming Hailey..." as she stated in her interview. I bet they'd much rather find a clue that leads to a live Hailey like everybody else. They're just willing to consider other likely scenarios and get their hands dirty drudging through the "ugly" places to recover Hailey if she is no longer alive. (Haven't seen any confirmation that anyone in fact destroyed or compromised any potential evidence found during searches.)

Personally, I don't blame Billie at all for not wanting to drudge through ditches and filth looking for anything related to her daughter, or to watch the video. But, imo, she should not be disparaging those who consider Hailey their local girl and are willing to do the dirty work on behalf of Hailey. Criticizing them to the media was wrong, imo. I wish Billie would participate in efforts to find a live breathing Hailey if she feels so passionately - there's a lot she could do in this regard that doesn't include publicly criticizing the searchers who are looking in "ugly dirty" places.

This whole mess in CCity is too sad for words... And now, back at another landfill. crying


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Post by NosyNeighbor on Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:48 pm

NosyNeighbor wrote:Snipped for space and sorry to quote myself but I am so very thrilled that I was correct in what I posted below last night:

I'm angry as hell and I completely understand how Hailey's Angels are feeling{sorry the mud slinging brought here about those women just doesn't fly nor hold the weight of a grain of salt of the mouth from which it comes}..Fact is we don't give a damn what ANY searchers "reason" is for hauling their ass out to CCity and surrounding areas everyday..Just so long as they're out their searching..

And I have a feeling that once the anger subsides that Billie so easily brings out in ppl with her bullsh*t that pours from that mouth..once it subsides and they realize that its only left to ppl such as themselves to search and find Hailey..because fact is the person who calls herself Hailey's "mom" won't get off her "ugly" used-up ass from staying plopped on those "new" couches w/the POS masked lover as they "comfortably" live each day wasted breathing the air that the beautiful child that she birthed ought to be breathing...you know these POs will not lift a finger except to the remote control or to pop the next top off a beer..and its only ppl such as Hailey's Angels that'll be the one to find Hailey.. I truly think they won't give up..They'll rise above BJD's bullsh*t and continue the fight to ensure Hailey's justice..

Because just as I thought Hailey's Angels are able to look past BJD's bullsh*t and keep their focus on Hailey being found..just as Marc Klaas IMO has to done in dealing with BJD's BS as well.. Here's todays reversal of Hailey's Angels decision:
Decision Reversal: Hailey's Angels Reconsider, Won't Quit Search For Hailey Dunn

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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:50 pm

I understand about the video now. Thank you. When this was all being discussed crap was flying all over the place on this thread. My mind is still trying to sort out everything I read this morning.
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Post by missy1974 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:56 pm

jeanne1807 wrote:From what I have read on the dinner. The HA's put on the benefit dinner. I thought earlier that the American Legion was doing it..but who knows. So it was their agenda to honor all of the searchers. All searchers were invited.

After dinner a video that the HA's had made was shown. It showed where they searched. The places they were going. Pretty rough I believe.

After it went on for a while both Billie and Clint and I believe DD became upset thinking of Hailey being found in those places.

So they stepped outside. I am sure somebody seeing them doing that asked..what is wrong. I believe they told them the film was upsetting them. Then the person asking them..went inside and asked that the film be turned off.

As I understand it the film was made by and presented by HA gals and they were not happy to turn it off.

There is a lot of other "stuff" that might have gone on. I don't know but that seems to be the main "what happened".

Those that were there can correct any errors. My words just come from reading blogs.

That is pretty much what I am seeing too Jeanne, from posts online from people that were actually there (or say they were). I think there was more drama though with a possible confrontation with one of the members of HA's and Billie and Clint. ( [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] <<<< is an interesting read and does have some posts from people that were there ) If some of the info about the video are true, I honestly could see why some would think it's inappropriate, but maybe that's just me.

Here is what I don't understand ....

this was yesterday before the article about Billie not liking the video, etc. >>> [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Members of the Hailey's Angels group are expressing frustration at some comments made by leaders of the professional search organizations that traveled to Colorado City over the weekend to participate in the search

and now today ....
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The group, however, will search independently for Hailey Dunn, apart from other search organizations.

why aren't they working with the other organizations there? or why won't those organizations work with them? I have been looking to see if I can find anything that was said or happened or anything that explains this. It just seems odd to me.
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Post by truthbtold on Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:56 pm

NosyNeighbor wrote:
NosyNeighbor wrote:Snipped for space and sorry to quote myself but I am so very thrilled that I was correct in what I posted below last night:

I'm angry as hell and I completely understand how Hailey's Angels are feeling{sorry the mud slinging brought here about those women just doesn't fly nor hold the weight of a grain of salt of the mouth from which it comes}..Fact is we don't give a damn what ANY searchers "reason" is for hauling their ass out to CCity and surrounding areas everyday..Just so long as they're out their searching..

And I have a feeling that once the anger subsides that Billie so easily brings out in ppl with her bullsh*t that pours from that mouth..once it subsides and they realize that its only left to ppl such as themselves to search and find Hailey..because fact is the person who calls herself Hailey's "mom" won't get off her "ugly" used-up ass from staying plopped on those "new" couches w/the POS masked lover as they "comfortably" live each day wasted breathing the air that the beautiful child that she birthed ought to be breathing...you know these POs will not lift a finger except to the remote control or to pop the next top off a beer..and its only ppl such as Hailey's Angels that'll be the one to find Hailey.. I truly think they won't give up..They'll rise above BJD's bullsh*t and continue the fight to ensure Hailey's justice..

Because just as I thought Hailey's Angels are able to look past BJD's bullsh*t and keep their focus on Hailey being found..just as Marc Klaas IMO has to done in dealing with BJD's BS as well.. Here's todays reversal of Hailey's Angels decision:
Decision Reversal: Hailey's Angels Reconsider, Won't Quit Search For Hailey Dunn

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Thank God there are so very many who do truly care about Hailey..Answered Prayer!
:cheering: Woo-hoo GO ANGELS!!! :cheering:

I hope Hailey's Angels can find a way to work in partnership with the national search groups and no one is getting territorial about their roles. In any case, I'm glad the Angels have recommitted and applaud their long-standing dedication to Hailey.

P.s. Nosy, I like your pom poms!!! :cheering:
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Post by NosyNeighbor on Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:07 pm

jeanne I understand it to have happened just as you described.. And yes I understood the video to be abbout searching for Hailey..i.e. documenting all areas searched by them{this could be valuable for other reasons as well IMO}..and that of course yes it also contained pics of Hailey.. I personally see nothing wrong with their showing all of the many areas they've trudged thru in the freezing ass cold temps while BJD sat comfy on her couches watching TV..

And I also understand it to be HA who put on the event..and yes all searchers were invited..BJD herself states that the majority of ppl in attendance were from KK and LRC..duh? It was for search groups and those are the search groups..along with HA that of course were in attendance..

I also have no problem with them selling any merchandise whatsoever that could help the monetary stress that these women have been funding all alone for 8weeks..they are not claiming its going to anything but that..think about the cost of DAILY SERACHING FOR 8WEEKS..gas alone after 56 DAYS OF SEARCHING would be a helluva alot..not to mention daily meals for 56days..then you add in their taking the initiative to arrange this dinner for the searchers..I mean are ppl kidding that they don't see and understand just what these ppl are paying out of pocket{not even touching on taking away from their own lives..their own families..their own children}..How evil is someone that sees all of this being done ALL FOR THEIR CHILD..THEIR ONLY DAUGHTER HAILEY..and yet slam..disrespect and basically crap all over these ppl..Its unbelievable the audacity that some ppl have..

I see zero wrong..nefarious..or anything else for there to be attempted to be put in a bad light concerning them selling anything and everything they can in order to be able to continue the search..

And lastly I don't give a damn what their reasons are for why they drag their butts out there day in and day out..putting up with outright disrespect from a parent.. I could care less why..The only thing that matters is finding Hailey Dunn and these ppl are searching and have been searching for 8weeks daily..

I commend them regardless of why they do it..JUST THANKING GOD RIGHT NOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO IT!
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Post by pepperann on Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:10 pm

The only thing about Hailey's Angels searching is the dedication that they have had since day #1. The other groups aren't there all the time to be searching. The point from the way I see it is Billie should be grateful for whoever is out there pounding the pavement, looking in ditches, trudging through water, swamps, exposing themselves to not only the elements but also the wild animals, the snakes, etc., etc., etc. These are everyday people just like us who are taking time from their lives and their own families to look for this beautiful little girl and how anyone can begrudge them for that I don't understand. They are doing much more than anyone in Billie's family is doing with the possible exception of Clint. If the video bothered them, they should have just stepped outside and kept their pie holes shut about it. Unfortunately, it's a damned if you do or damned if you don't situation for these searchers where Billie Dunn is concerned. I don't know of too many missing children that have been successfully located at the local shopping mall, movie theater, bowling alley, or skating rink. Instead they are tossed out like common trash, along the side of the road, in the middle of the woods, buried, or thrown in a body of water. I'm just not sure what Billie expects? Read a short prepared speech to the searchers thanking them for their efforts, that's all that was needed from her and if she could take a few minutes to realize that the longer she continues to support and flash her relationship with Shawn Adkins all over town, the more she better realize that she's going to alienate each and every single person who is there looking for her daughter.

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Post by NosyNeighbor on Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:12 pm

truthbtold wrote:
NosyNeighbor wrote:
NosyNeighbor wrote:Snipped for space and sorry to quote myself but I am so very thrilled that I was correct in what I posted below last night:

I'm angry as hell and I completely understand how Hailey's Angels are feeling{sorry the mud slinging brought here about those women just doesn't fly nor hold the weight of a grain of salt of the mouth from which it comes}..Fact is we don't give a damn what ANY searchers "reason" is for hauling their ass out to CCity and surrounding areas everyday..Just so long as they're out their searching..

And I have a feeling that once the anger subsides that Billie so easily brings out in ppl with her bullsh*t that pours from that mouth..once it subsides and they realize that its only left to ppl such as themselves to search and find Hailey..because fact is the person who calls herself Hailey's "mom" won't get off her "ugly" used-up ass from staying plopped on those "new" couches w/the POS masked lover as they "comfortably" live each day wasted breathing the air that the beautiful child that she birthed ought to be breathing...you know these POs will not lift a finger except to the remote control or to pop the next top off a beer..and its only ppl such as Hailey's Angels that'll be the one to find Hailey.. I truly think they won't give up..They'll rise above BJD's bullsh*t and continue the fight to ensure Hailey's justice..

Because just as I thought Hailey's Angels are able to look past BJD's bullsh*t and keep their focus on Hailey being found..just as Marc Klaas IMO has to done in dealing with BJD's BS as well.. Here's todays reversal of Hailey's Angels decision:
Decision Reversal: Hailey's Angels Reconsider, Won't Quit Search For Hailey Dunn

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Thank God there are so very many who do truly care about Hailey..Answered Prayer!
:cheering: Woo-hoo GO ANGELS!!! :cheering:

I hope Hailey's Angels can find a way to work in partnership with the national search groups and no one is getting territorial about their roles. In any case, I'm glad the Angels have recommitted and applaud their long-standing dedication to Hailey.

P.s. Nosy, I like your pom poms!!! :cheering:

TBT ITA and hope like hell these adults can behave like adults..I pray they use this "hiccup" as a time to refocus on what is important and that is finding Hailey and the more ppl work together the sooner that will happen IMO..{and TBT I like the pom-pom cheer girl smiley too :)}
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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:14 pm

I would hate to see any possible evidence get destroyed due to inexperienced people searching. Were Hailey's Angels trained by professionals? I give them credit for searching as well. I hope they are keeping books of all those donations because those donating may want to claim it on their tax refund this year.
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Post by truthbtold on Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:22 pm

It would be great if the local search teams and the national search teams could work together as one united team; strength in numbers. If the local teams could embrace the search protocols of the national teams, I think it would be in the best interest of Hailey. And, in turn, the national search teams should respect/embrace that the local searchers are there every day and have a personal connection to Hailey. If these things aren't happening now, hoping Brad Dennis from KK (or someone like him) can make it happen soon. I applaud anyone who is searching, just think there's a better chance for success if it's a united effort. JMO.


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Post by missy1974 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:24 pm

lindamarie wrote:I would hate to see any possible evidence get destroyed due to inexperienced people searching. Were Hailey's Angels trained by professionals? I give them credit for searching as well. I hope they are keeping books of all those donations because those donating may want to claim it on their tax refund this year.

I have also tried to find that info Lindamarie, I seen a few posts on facebook that implied that they weren't, and didn't want to be 'trained'. I don't want to just take a random facebook post as truth though and have tried to find anything that said they were or weren't trained by them.

Regardless, I think they should be praised for all that they have done as well.

I do think however; that some of them may have some very strong views about Billie and SA, and with that, I think they are just going to have to accept the fact that they will probably never get a thank you from Billie.

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Post by jeanne1807 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:26 pm

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Authorities Search Big Spring Landfill For Hailey DunnBy Jacqueline Hince, KTXS News
POSTED: 2:04 pm CST February 22, 2011
EmailPrintAAAText SizeCOLORADO CITY, Texas -- Law enforcement officials are searching the Big Spring landfill with dogs on Tuesday in another attempt to find missing Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn.

It is the second time officials have searched the Big Spring landfill, and the search Tuesday was based on following leads law enforcement officials had developed.

Dogs were being used in the search, which started mid-morning, to possibly find anything related to Hailey Dunn's disappearance, according to Pete Kampfer, city manager for Colorado City.

Authorities previously have searched landfills in Abilene, Snyder and Colorado City, but authorities have not released whether any specific evidence has been found concerning the case.

Hailey Dunn has not been seen since Dec. 27, when she was reported to be headed to her father's house then a girlfriend's house. She never reached either destination and was reported missing the next day by her mother, Billie Dunn.

Billie Dunn's former live-in boyfriend, the last person to have seen Hailey, is the only named suspect in the case, although no arrests have been made.
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Post by Nama on Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:31 pm

If this is true, Hailey's Angels are going about it in the wrong way. They should just be searching and let LE deal with Shawn. This kind of behavior isn't helping anyone or going to gain support of what they're doing from Billie .

And Haileys Angels made Haileys Memorial bridge close to Shawns area just so he would have to see it and they have been searching nearby where he sits on his porch, and they all glare at each other. They are a thorn in Billie's side imo.

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Post by missy1974 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:44 pm

BJ wrote:If this is true, Hailey's Angels are going about it in the wrong way. They should just be searching and let LE deal with Shawn. This kind of behavior isn't helping anyone or going to gain support of what they're doing from Billie .

And Haileys Angels made Haileys Memorial bridge close to Shawns area just so he would have to see it and they have been searching nearby where he sits on his porch, and they all glare at each other. They are a thorn in Billie's side imo.

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you have to scroll down a bit to read what Freda Radcliff says, but it does state:
She said the spot on the bridge was chosen because of its proximity to where Shawn Adkins, Billie Dunn's former boyfriend and a person of interest in the case, is staying

I know I have seen it said in other articles as well, but I was able to find that one first.

When I look at this situation as a whole, if this group is that vocal about their beliefs that SA was involved, and have been vocal about Billie's actions as well, I can see why Billie wouldn't approach any of them personally, to try to avoid any sort of confrontation. JMO
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Post by truthbtold on Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:49 pm

Personally, I think this is as much about group politics as emotions at this point. Hailey's Angels were there first and are committed to their girl; they may be resisting training and processes developed by "outsiders"; feeling territorial. Especially if they believe Billie and Shawn are involved and the national teams are placating them and putting them in a positive light. It shouldn't be this way, but human nature and group-think is what it is... Ideally, the leaders of the national teams recognize how these things work and will be able to show the local teams the benefits of working together while not impairing their sense of empowerment. If everyone is really primarily focused on finding Hailey above all else, they should be able to pull together. I hope they do.

What I'd like to know more about are the efforts underway to find a live Hailey. Imo, LE is still running a parallel investigation and they're confident of who is possibly involved in Hailey's disappearance, but not what actually happened to Hailey. If so, guess they really can't tell us much about where the "live Hailey" leads are taking them without tipping off their unnamed POIs... Haven't heard anything about Clint chasing down new sighting or leads recently; wonder if they've ceased altogether or if he's changed his outlook?
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Post by jeanne1807 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:57 pm

Good post TBT. You pretty much are right on with the searchers. Each could learn so much if they only "gave over".

It seems like a line was drawn in the sand almost from day one. You were for or against..everything. Everybody wants to make it clear....

Anyway good post on the searchers and why they are like they are.
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Post by CritterFan1 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:06 pm

lindamarie wrote:I don't understand the whole video thing. Why would they play a Hailey video like a memorial at a dinner for the volunteers? To me that is to close to a memorial. The thing that bothers me about the Hailey's Angel group the most is that merchandise that is being sold. I know they said the money is going to fund the search. Well I am not sure I buy that. Plus did I read that possible evidence could have been destroyed by inexperienced searchers?
It is disgusting to make money off of a young girls tragedy. Bottom Feeders.
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Post by truthbtold on Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:20 pm

I'm confused.

I know that Billie's friend rc who has posted here a few times is selling keychains, mugs, tshirts, hoodies, and buttons online at zazzle. No statement of the proceeds going to search efforts posted on the site. The merchandise was developed, photographed, priced, marketed and made available on-line within one month of Hailey's disappearance (by 1/23). Billie claimed she hadn't been involved in getting any kind of buttons or anything made until Mark Klaas took her out of the house on 1/20. Billie's other friend cz responded by posting that Billie wasn't informed about this merchandise because the profits were going to be donated to search efforts by rc. I don't understand the explanation, but that's what we were told.

I haven't heard anything about Hailey's Angels selling merchandise aside from possibly Hailey buttons at cost. If they are, I would support them if they have used the funds to sustain their 8 weeks of searching non-stop (and agree profits should be monitored and accounted for properly).

I'm out of the loop. How did the local search team become bottom feeders? What did I miss?
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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:53 pm

I'm just wondering if SA was at the dinner? I would think not (seeing he is the main suspect), but I just wanted to make sure. I agree that as long as BD is hanging around him, she is continuing to feed people's anger towards her (and him)! She really needs to cut ties with him until Hailey is found & the truth comes out. For all we know, she is "sleeping with the enemy"! (remember that old Julia Roberts movie?)
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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:27 pm

Rainbow wrote:I'm just wondering if SA was at the dinner? I would think not (seeing he is the main suspect), but I just wanted to make sure. I agree that as long as BD is hanging around him, she is continuing to feed people's anger towards her (and him)! She really needs to cut ties with him until Hailey is found & the truth comes out. For all we know, she is "sleeping with the enemy"! (remember that old Julia Roberts movie?)
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#3 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX/  Search Affidavits - pages 4 and 21/  Billie denies knowledge of images of bestiality and child pornography on computer of Shawn Adkins, primary suspect, and memory stick found in Billie's home - Page 11 Hailey10
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Maybe the "Calling All Angels" is why I think some of the money might be going to the Hailey Angels fund. I don't think it is wrong of me/us to question what they are doing with the funds. Just saying I hope someone is keeping books because the IRS will want to know.
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Post by NosyNeighbor on Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:53 pm

Thanks for the many that said such kind words about the tshirt deal..Only wish there were more that we could do..its hard to stand by so far away not able to do more especially when things such as what happened in the last few days occur that are further hindering Hailey being found.. That is all that I want and its correct that we momma's become passionate and at times fierce and even more determined to make sure this daughter is found and justice does NOT go UNserved in the travesty that occurred to her that we have seen only continue on a downward spiral since then..My only concern is for Hailey and for finding her..I won't allow myself to be distracted by ill insinuations hurled out of a continued defense.. That does not matter to me and I apologize wrap for being distracted and engaging in immature posts last night during the heated emotions that were felt all around.. I know that the majority of us those emotions are directly derived from a passion to seek justice for Hailey and I appreciate this board you have created as a place for those like myself can come and be among others who are determined to see justice for an innocent child as in this case.. It is appreciated and in no way did I mean any disrespect to you or your forum..
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Post by truthbtold on Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:54 pm

Thanks lindamarie! I don't think it's wrong to question anything. Glad you did. I think possibly there's some confusion about the merchandise sellers in this case.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but it is my understanding that the merchandise photos you posted are from the product line sold by the local radio person (rc) that is a friend of czgtz's and a supporter of Billie's. This is the stuff that czgtz said Billie didn't know about and is being sold on zazzle, without a statement about what is to be done with the profits. czgtz told us rc was selling them and planning to donate profits to search efforts (presumably like those of Hailey's Angels). rc came on a couple of days ago and said she intended to do that but her profit has been only 60 cents.

Unless I'm wrong, rc is operating independently and is not affiliated with Hailey's Angels. Hailey's Angels is not actively selling a line of Hailey merchandise; they are focused on searching the ugly and dirty areas looking for Hailey.

Just hate to see the local searchers get branded unfairly; few enough good guys in this case, imo.

NosyNeighbor: Is my understanding correct to your knowledge? TIA!



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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:01 pm

We appreciate your helping to clear up our questions about Hailey Angels. We are protective of Marc Klass and Klass Kids here on VH. So when I heard that they were not working together the Hinky meter went off in my head. Some one needs to tell the Angels they need help from professionals and they should be begging for extra help from Klass Kids. Tim Miller group has not been there for a reason and I think it is because of the side show and all the lies. Tim Miller learned something from the Anthony's. They are not going to get involved in this one.
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Post by sdillard on Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:03 pm

I only have 3 pursuits here.....1 is to find a live Hailey and if she is alive to make sure she is safe....2 if she is , God forbid, deceased that the remains be brought to a place of decent handling, and 3 (only if there is a number 2) to bring about justice to those involved.



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Post by NosyNeighbor on Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:04 pm

truthbtold wrote:I'm confused.

I know that Billie's friend rc who has posted here a few times is selling keychains, mugs, tshirts, hoodies, and buttons online at zazzle. No statement of the proceeds going to search efforts posted on the site. The merchandise was developed, photographed, priced, marketed and made available on-line within one month of Hailey's disappearance (by 1/23). Billie claimed she hadn't been involved in getting any kind of buttons or anything made until Mark Klaas took her out of the house on 1/20. Billie's other friend cz responded by posting that Billie wasn't informed about this merchandise because the profits were going to be donated to search efforts by rc. I don't understand the explanation, but that's what we were told.

I haven't heard anything about Hailey's Angels selling merchandise aside from possibly Hailey buttons at cost. If they are, I would support them if they have used the funds to sustain their 8 weeks of searching non-stop (and agree profits should be monitored and accounted for properly).

I'm out of the loop. How did the local search team become bottom feeders? What did I miss?

TBT I believe there has been some confusion with redcattex's business endeavor on zazzle.com.. I believe redcattex biz is being thought to have an association with the "Hailey's Angels"{quite possibly because of what LM just pointed out are on some of her shirts "calling all angels"} THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN REDCATTEX BIZ AND HAILEYS ANGELS{sorry wrap I just wanted to make sure ppl understood} that there is zero connection btwn these two..

LM this biz on zazzle.com is what charminglane and I were asking the relevant and legitimate questions about how this was being broken down..what percentages went to whom..and all in all what is common practice for anyone to ask of any charity/donation fund before choosing to give..very legit questions..
We were questioning it in the same vein that you are and feel as well that it is only proper to ask for the much needed info to be answered..{unfortunately that led to part of what happened last nite cz angry lashing out at me for asking about redcats biz}

But I do want to clarify for sure that "Hailey's Angels" are in no way associated with the zazzle.com biz..

**just read your other post TBT and looks like you were posting pretty much same info as I..I must admit yours much better..with more detail..lol..you are 100% Correct!


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Post by truthbtold on Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:14 pm

Thanks Nosy - I knew you'd have the scoop for sure! I'm not on Facebook, so thought I might have missed something. Seems like an innocent misunderstanding; lot of confusing aspects of this case!

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