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Post by jeanne1807 on Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:09 am

Raine I was about to respond to your question about when is Billlie going to shut up and get a good lawyer. Then artgirl explained it so well. They are both sociopaths.

They need nobody. Keep on talking Billie. Let it all out.
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Post by truthbtold on Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:09 am

Sounds like Kampfer is confirming that those close to Hailey, Billie and Shawn are being squeezed for information with these unrelated arrests ,imo. Bilie's brother, Clint, Clint's brother (not confirmed), Billie's mom...

City Manager of Colorado City, Pete Kampfer has been close to the investigation from the beginning. He says while these new developments aren't necessarily connected to Hailey's disappearance it could help connect the dots.
"Folks that have arrest warrants against them may make statements or confessions so it may move things along a lot faster," Kampfer said.
The District Attorneys for Mitchell and Howard Counties where the evidence was found could charge both Billie and Shawn in the future.
"It's up to prosecutors whether they want to incorporate that into the investigation as far as where we come on a charge basis," Kamper said.


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Post by truthbtold on Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:16 am

artgal16 wrote:One of the hallmarks of a sociopath is the ability to get people to like and believe in them. Thats why they are able to get by with the things they do. Billie and Shawn both are sociopaths they have the same charateristics of the Satsuma bunch and Caylee Anthony, Drew and Scott Peterson. It shouldnt really come as a surprise. Im not sure about Clint except we know he has a severe drug problem and I always felt that the group who asked him to speak was making a huge mistake. Someone up thread asked why they arrested Connie when they could have arrested others in this case. That is a very important question. Something she might know that LE wants is my belief.
Does she have any source for money? Is she on welfare? Shes not even 50 years old.

I agree And, Biilie's mom saw Billie and Shawn on Monday, 12/27 p.m. - less than a day before Hailey was reported missing (Tues 12/28 2:00 p.m.) and less than a day after Hailey was last seen by her brother (Sunday, 12/26 9:00 p.m.). She needs to be squeezed for any and all information that might relate to Hailey's disappearance, imo...


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Post by raine1953 on Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:18 am

jeanne1807 wrote:Raine I was about to respond to your question about when is Billlie going to shut up and get a good lawyer. Then artgirl explained it so well. They are both sociopaths.

They need nobody. Keep on talking Billie. Let it all out.

Jeanne, I agree with you, Artgal explained that beautifully. I tried so hard to believe in Billie, I really did but I think I can't any longer. I still want to believe that she has no knowledge about what happened to her daughter but that hope if fading fast. You're right Jeanne, keep on talking Billie. grrrr
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Post by truthbtold on Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:26 am

I agree with artgal, jeanne, and raine - I hope Billie keeps on talking. If she didn't think she was smarter than everyone else, she would have retained a lawyer after the first affidavits were released. I don't know if she's a sociopath, but both she and Shawn seem to have some sociopathic characteristics, imo.

No matter how much Billie talks (in circles, imo), I have a feeling that we're going to get a lot more significant information from Shawn. I think he might just want to brag once he has distance from Billie's influence. JMO..
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Shawn needs to wipe that smirk off his face. What an arrogant SOB!

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Post by truthbtold on Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:20 pm

BJ wrote:Shawn needs to wipe that smirk off his face. What an arrogant SOB!

Doesn't he just seem to be enjoying the spotlight, or is it just me? I really thinks the arrogant SOB would love to brag about whatever he's done, but Billie's keeping him too close. butterfly
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Post by samgoodwin on Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:29 pm

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Big Country News and Interview with Billie last evening.

That interviewer was really "leading" Billie's responses - "Can you tell us how shocking this was for you?" "Can you tell us how this wasn't like you or Shawn at all?" Nothing like feeding her the answers to help her out.
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Big Country News and Interview with Billie last evening.

That interviewer was really "leading" Billie's responses - "Can you tell us how shocking this was for you?" "Can you tell us how this wasn't like you or Shawn at all?" Nothing like feeding her the answers to help her out.

I agree The interviewers in several of her interviews have done the same. If she actually goes through with this live chat Q&A on Monday, I hope she gets asked the questions exactly as they are posted in the chat room. However, I really suspect that she is only going to be lobbed softball questions.
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Post by truthbtold on Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:19 pm

samgoodwin wrote:Quite frankly, TBT, I'm hoping she'll be in jail by then.

Me too sam. But, only if LE and the DA have a very strong case that will put her away for a very long time. Preferably, a case against her in regards to Hailey's disappearance, and not on unrelated charges. I'm not sure she'd crack easily sitting in jail for possession of porn or drugs. I'd like to see her be charged with a severe crime directly against her daughter which would more likely motivate her to confess to everything she knows and hopefully lead to Hailey. I'm willing to wait to see Shawn and Billie behind bars if it takes a little longer, in order to find sweet Hailey. JMO...


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Post by truthbtold on Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:24 pm

charminglane wrote: I agree

charming, I was hoping you'd seen Marc Klaas publicly distance himself from Billie last night. If she was receiving any kind of financial support from Klaas Kids before, I think that well just ran dry!

P.s. Someone provided a link to a blog with Peter Hyatt's opinions on Billie's behavior, statements and motives. I laughed when I read his opinions about why Billie supports the national searchers and not the local ones. I laughed because I'd read a very similar theory by you here before he posted his. I really think you're right about the "milk" and some analysts suspect the same...
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Post by NosyNeighbor on Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:40 pm

ooOOoohhh! Boy ever did Marc Klaas distance himself from Billie last night.. He and Jean C both made reference to their being duped into believing Billie's BS.. He said he wanted to make clear that KK is very clear in that they tell parents you must do EVERYTHING that you have to to clear yourself..along with hold nothing back even if negative..doesn't matter in a time such as your child missing..He said obviously this was not followed in this case..

But what was most telling to me was that when the therapist stated that if Billie truly was clueless to Shawn's apparent deep involement with child porn as well as several other deviant behaviors that we have learned that if Billie truly did not know that she would be the most naive..most gullible..most clueless "innocent" person that she'd ever seen..

And MK immediately following that above statement by therapist says that he wants something to be known for certain and that is the Billie is Not clueless..Billie is Not gullible in the least.. That Billie is extremely aware of her surroundings and those ppl surrounding her and her home..and that she is smart as well as extremely "street smart" and street savy.. Lest it be mistaken that she is in anyway clueless..gullible..or naive..She most definitely is NOT!

MK stating this immediately following the therapists statement about "if" Billie is innocent that she'd have to be naive..clueless..gullible..for MK to follow that up with he wants to make clear that Billie is none of those and in fact the direct opposite.. That IMO says a helluva alot about just how much this has changed MK's mind and opens up the possibility IMO that Billie might even be involved..jmo

It will definitely all play out so we will see IMO in coming days just how far/different/distant MK will be with regards to a connection with Billie Jean Dunn..

I am glad MK's eyes are open now..cuz I sure don't think that BJD has fully realized just how hot of water that she is in presently..and I mean just with the child porn alone she is in water that is quickly reaching a boiling point IMO..
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Post by NosyNeighbor on Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:46 pm

TBT and charming..please remind us of the "milk" theory regarding the searchers.. You've piqued my curiosity and unfortunately I can only pop in here and there{presently I have a client's color processing under the dryer so I had a few mins to pop in..lol}..

Do tell..
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Post by truthbtold on Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:52 pm

NosyNeighbor wrote:TBT and charming..please remind us of the "milk" theory regarding the searchers.. You've piqued my curiosity and unfortunately I can only pop in here and there{presently I have a client's color processing under the dryer so I had a few mins to pop in..lol}..

Do tell..

Hi Nosy! I don't want to speak on behalf of charming. I just think she was pretty insightful early on about how donations might play a role in Billie's attitude towards certain people and groups. She posted a bit about it earlier in the thread. Will let her re-post if she's comfortable.

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Post by charminglane on Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:33 pm

Hey there!
I have had trouble logging in since yesterday, but arrived back at the opportune moment! I was doing Billie Math 101:

Klaas Kids: $
Laura Recovery: $
Amber Group: $
Hailey's Angels: 0


WWBJDD? What Would Billie Jean Dunn Do? Milk those donations for all they are worth.


Thank you, TBT. You new members are very cool!
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I agree with you on CD.in beginning it was mentioned Hailey was seen with his girlfriends son?
BJD,SA, CD are drug addicts, it is a job for them, go to dope DR pay cash get meds take to pharmacy owned or affilated with Dope Dr.
They can at least klonopin, Xanax Vicodin etc probably no less that 60 or 90 pills w/1 or 2 refills. Side effects of some drugs cause sexual activity like METH or they can take Addiral same thing but legal. This with Hailey has interferred with their lifestyle. Just because BD is from texas does not make her DUMMER THAN DIRT...

jeanne1807 wrote:Clint Dunn has never been my hero. Upthread one of the posters described Clint Dunn very well. He does just enough to get by.

They said he "kinda parents" and he "kinda works" and he "kinda searches". Just enough. No more no less..well maybe less.

I would like to bring it down to read it again but my eyes are crossed reading about all the new developments.

Clint may have appeared to be a "hero" in this case simply because the others look so very bad.

But what has he done..really? He certainly did not protect his "daddys little girl". He was busy with his new family and his medicinal MJ.

He went out and searched a day or two but also received monitary handouts..one of them seen on camera in the Video posted yesterday with Haileys Angels.

Clint is kind of Half Time. He is just there. Not doing much.

I can not believe he is going to speak at this conference this weekend. Imagine that.

But really. Clint had to know what Hailey was going through. He knew these people his "daddys little girl" was living with.

But as usual Clint did nothing..he was a pot smoker..how could he gain custody and he was a new daddy and and and..... umno
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Post by truthbtold on Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:45 pm

charminglane wrote:Hey there!
I have had trouble logging in since yesterday, but arrived back at the opportune moment! I was doing Billie Math 101:

Klaas Kids: $
Laura Recovery: $
Amber Group: $
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WWBJDD? What Would Billie Jean Dunn Do? Milk those donations for all they are worth.


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Thanks for reposting!

Since Laura Recovery and Team Amber were brought in by Klaas Kids (IIRC), I think it's a safe bet that they have ceased any financial contributions to Miss Billie Jean Dunn (if they were giving her any, and I personally think they were). I hope they keep searching and working on behalf of Hailey until she is found, but Billie Jean should be cut off at the knees, imo. If Carrie McGonigle from Team Amber moves forward in funding/establishing the "hopeforhailey.org" page, I hope she changes its mission. It should not be a place where those concerned about Hailey go to get updates straight from Billie Jean's mouth. It should be a place where people go to get updates on searches, confirmed facts, and other information pertaining to Hailey Dunn herself. (MOO, publishing Clint's words is no problem if he is fully cleared and continues pursuing leads, but no donations for family members should be solicited on this site...)


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Hopefully :muahaha: she is still getting funds from the sale of merchandise to keep her talking...
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charminglane wrote:Hopefully :muahaha: she is still getting funds from the sale of merchandise to keep her talking...

Lol. I hate to see her profit in any way. But, I'd rather see her get money from merchandise sales than take grant money and contributions from victim's advocacy groups that are greatly needed by other families who are truly devastated and searching for their missing loved ones. MOO.
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Authorities tell us it will be up to a grand jury whether Shawn Adkins or Billie Dunn will be arrested for the child pornography found at Billie's home.
Billie is the mother of missing teen Hailey Dunn, who was last seen nearly 2 months ago.
KTXS reported Friday, that a computer memory stick with child pornography, as well as more than 100 thousand other graphic images, was taken by officials from Billie's home.
Shawn Adkins, Billie's boyfriend, lived there at the time.
They also collected evidence of porn from Shawn Adkins mother's home in Big Spring.
KTXS knocked on Billie's door Saturday but no one answered. We also called her cell phone, again no one picked up.
Saturday, Colorado City City Manager Pete Kampfer said no arrests have been made, but that prosecutors are gathering their evidence and plan to eventually take it to a grand jury, "Pending their deliberations and what the persecutors present and they're timing, we'll probably effect an arrest or however that will go at that time. But that's contingent on a grand jury and what prosecutors carry to them." Kampfer did not have a time frame for when prosecutors might present their case to a grand jury.
This weekend, both Billie and Clint Dunn, Hailey's parents had been asked to speak at a human traffic awareness event in Mansfield, in the metroplex.
The executive director of "Traffik 911", Deena Graves released this statement, "Traffick911 is deeply saddened by this revelation. Any child in a pornographic image is a trafficked child and our organization is driven to stop the trafficking of children in any form. Under the circumstances, Billie Dunn will not speak at the rally. Clint Dunn will speak and we will hold the candlelight vigil for Hailey. This is about Hailey and missing and exploited children everywhere. The images found underscore how critical it is to focus on demand and help people understand how pornography drives this horrific crime against our children."

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Post by artgal16 on Sat Feb 26, 2011 6:18 pm

Is it possible that Hailey is in any of the videos they found on the computer? Regardng Hailey in hiding,
we are talking about a 13 year old. Did she hitchhike
her way out of that little town? Is someone in the town involved that helped her to get away to... well to where? Who would take her in? She had no money.
I would like to know more about Hailey. The only reliable source would be her teachers. Its been said she was a good student, she was a cheerleader. Her friends are always a good source of information. Kids know more about each other at that age. I dont believe that Hailey is hiding.
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I am wondering when the grand jury is convening in Mitchell and Howard counties. Anybody happen to know?
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Artgirl that is a whole lot of pictures and video to go through. I certainly don't know the process but it must be..difficult work.

109,000 on the computer and gosh I don't know how many on that memory stick.

Thats a whole lot of porn. Imagine that.
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artgal16 wrote:Is it possible that Hailey is in any of the videos they found on the computer?

Artgal, the video that BJ just posted, if you listen to it at the 1:54 point it says Haleigh is not in any of these photos. That is the only place I've heard this.

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jeanne1807 wrote:I am wondering when the grand jury is convening in Mitchell and Howard counties. Anybody happen to know?

Jeanne, this is all I could find on the grand jury question.

Saturday, Colorado City City Manager Pete Kampfer said no arrests have been made, but that prosecutors are gathering their evidence and plan to eventually take it to a grand jury, "Pending their deliberations and what the prosecutors present and their timing, we'll probably effect an arrest or however that will go at that time. But that's contingent on a grand jury and what prosecutors carry to them." Kampfer did not have a time frame for when prosecutors might present their case to a grand jury.
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artgal16 wrote:Is it possible that Hailey is in any of the videos they found on the computer?

Artgal, the video that BJ just posted, if you listen to it at the 1:54 point it says Haleigh is not in any of these photos. That is the only place I've heard this.

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Not in any photos on the computer. There is still the memory stick and the phones.
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Post by truthbtold on Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:54 pm

I think the cell phones are going to be a big factor in this case. Not only the pings, but what might have been stored on them and the incoming calls that LE captured right after the phones were confiscated. Even most pre-paid phones have camera and video features.

According to the first affidavit released, LE took the phones and SA's mom's computer right after Hailey was reported missing. I don't think Shawn and Billie thought they would be suspected so quickly; they may not have had time to delete messages and images nor to call all of their "contacts" and warn them that their phones had been seized. I think Billie has good reason to be so sensitive about not having her phone, as witnessed by her "because I don't have my phone" statement (twice) on her last appearance on Nancy Grace.
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artgal16 wrote:Is it possible that Hailey is in any of the videos they found on the computer?

Artgal, the video that BJ just posted, if you listen to it at the 1:54 point it says Haleigh is not in any of these photos. That is the only place I've heard this.

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It struck me right away that they didn't confirm whether or not Hailey was on the 300+ images found on the memory stick; just the computer owned by Shawn's mom.

Please don't let Hailey be among those deviant images!!!
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artgal16 wrote:Is it possible that Hailey is in any of the videos they found on the computer?
Artgal, the video that BJ just posted, if you listen to it at the 1:54 point it says Haleigh is not in any of these photos. That is the only place I've heard this.
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Not in any photos on the computer. There is still the memory stick and the phones.

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on Yesterday at 7:57 pm - Sheriff Toombs tells NewsWest 9, Hailey was not in any pictures on the seized computer.

No images on the memory stick as well? BJ

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Post by truthbtold on Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:16 pm

I must say, while I greatly respect the efforts of the local searchers, I disagree with what the one quoted below has to say about viewers of child porn and bestiality. JMO...


2/26/11

Searchers in Colorado City voiced their feelings Saturday about the pornographic images authorities found on Shawn Adkins' computer.

Volunteers said although they are disturbed by the news, they're glad people are turning their attention back to the case.

"I think it does help get her back out there because for a while it was starting to die down," said searcher Kristy Lloyd.

KRBC obtained affidavits this week authorities used to seize a computer believed to belong to Adkins with more than 108,000 photos and videos of pornographic and deviant acts. Law enforcement also confiscated a memory stick from Billie Dunn's bedroom containing more than 300 pornographic photos and videos.

According to Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs, among all the photos and videos, there were images of child porn and beastiality.

"It's emotional enough just to be out there looking for Hailey. But to have this added dimension of the possibility of child pornography...it's so heartbreaking," said Shirley Crawford, who has been searching since January.

Searcher Stephanie Boyd said although she's disturbed by the findings, she believes it has little to do with Hailey's case.

"Most people that are into stuff like that...they're more into it for the pleasure than actually doing any physical harm," she said.


Lloyd said her group plans to continue focusing their efforts on Hailey rather than Billie and Shawn.

"Everybody has their opinion. To each their own. We're not out here to judge them, we're just out here to help find their child," she said.

According to Sheriff Toombs, it will be up to the Howard and Mitchell County D.A. to file criminal charges.

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Post by charminglane on Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:24 pm

Just thinking that no 13 year old I know would be home alone all day on Christmas vacation with a cell phone and not text her friends (besides MB on Monday), and no one has come forward to say that they got a text from Hailey at all.

Something had to have happened to Hailey on Sunday night.
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Post by Nama on Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:25 pm

Is this a friend of Billie's or just someone with their head in the sand? So many that are supporting the Dunn's refuse to look at the big picture.

Comment on a FB page: IM JUST GLAD THE ATTENTION IS BACK WHERE IS SHOULD BE ON HAILEY NOT DAT OTHER NONSENSE SOME SEEM TO HAVE THE NEEDD TO STILL SAY! LETS JUST FOCCUS ON LOOKING FOR AD FINDING HAILEY SO EVERYONE WILL HAVE CLOSURE! PRAYING FOR YOU HAILEY ANDD DUNN FAMILY

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Post by truthbtold on Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:31 pm

BJ wrote:Is this a friend of Billie's or just someone with their head in the sand? So many that are supporting the Dunn's refuse to look at the big picture.

Comment on a FB page: IM JUST GLAD THE ATTENTION IS BACK WHERE IS SHOULD BE ON HAILEY NOT DAT OTHER NONSENSE SOME SEEM TO HAVE THE NEEDD TO STILL SAY! LETS JUST FOCCUS ON LOOKING FOR AD FINDING HAILEY SO EVERYONE WILL HAVE CLOSURE! PRAYING FOR YOU HAILEY ANDD DUNN FAMILY

Very weird statement, imo. Over 100,000 images including child porn and bestiality is not a minor detail, and not "nonsense" in my book. It does make one wonder if these statements are coming from Billie's friends...

Also, as Jeanne posted above, the sheer volume is overwhelming. We know Shawn bought and sold masks as a side business to his hobby (per Billie on NG), could the same be true with the deviant porn?
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Post by jeanne1807 on Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:48 pm

TBT with that much porn there is the possibility they were selling it.

Having no experience in that area..thank heavens. I wonder what the normal "load" would be. Then I wonder what the load would be for somebody distributing it.

Also up thread I read about Billie saying twice "I don't have my phone" Call 911, I thought that the oddest statement to a little girl missing.

Perhaps it was some message to customers of either drugs or porn.

Does it get any worse?

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KT seems to think she has a cell phone; they tried to reach her on it. Where is that damn phone?
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KTXS knocked on Billie's door Saturday but no one answered. We also called her cell phone, again no one picked up.

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Post by Nama on Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:00 pm

Delete, delete, delete........ Wonder what was on the phone between the first time it was looked at and when LE wanted to see it again that Shawn had to get rid of?

When asked if Investigator Sides could look at the phone again to verify what he had seen earlier on Adkin's phone, or confirm that ADKINS was correct, Investigator Sides witnessed ADKINS delete information from his cell phone and then hand the phone to Investigator Sides. Investigator Sides was unable to view the call log information that had been viewed earlier. Investigator Sides then asked ADKINS "What happened to the phone call list" and ADKINS was unable to give an answer".

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BJ wrote:KT seems to think she has a cell phone; they tried to reach her on it. Where is that damn phone?
by BJ Today at 6:36 pm
by jeanne1807 Today at 9:48 pm - Also up thread I read about Billie saying twice "I don't have my phone" Call 911, I thought that the oddest statement to a little girl missing
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KTXS knocked on Billie's door Saturday but no one answered. We also called her cell phone, again no one picked up.

You're right. Billie has a cell phone, just not her original cell phone and phone number. Her internet friend was complaining about how sad it was for Billie that LE immediately confiscated her phone; she had to get another one with another number. There is nothing to indicate that LE ever gave Billie the original phone or phone number back; it's evidence in a criminal investigation. Billie was boohooing about it still, on 1/20, on Nancy Grace...

P.s LE took Shawn's cell phone too (and his mom's computer was scooped up right after)... Per affidavits...


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jeanne1807 wrote:TBT with that much porn there is the possibility they were selling it.

Having no experience in that area..thank heavens. I wonder what the normal "load" would be. Then I wonder what the load would be for somebody distributing it.

Also up thread I read about Billie saying twice "I don't have my phone" Call 911, I thought that the oddest statement to a little girl missing.

Perhaps it was some message to customers of either drugs or porn.

Does it get any worse?

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Jeanne, I really believe it is going to get worse. I don't think we have seen the worst of the evidence yet; that's being held back, imo.

P.s. I'm not a pornster either, but I'm thinking the same as you. That many images is indicative of a dangerous hard-core obsession and/or a business endeavor.

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The combination of these new and old confirmations from LE is adding up to a whole new theory in my mind:

- multiple POIs
- over 100,300 images of child porn and other deviant acts
- Drug use at every turn (and possibly dealing)
- Criminal history in the families; need for money
- Hobbies that include violence and sex
- Sweet Hailey being alone in the house and not being seen for at least 1.5 full days before she was reported missing
- Failed polys and ever-changing stories regarding Hailey and the time line surrounding her disappearance
- Kampfer stating CCPD is beefing up security around schools and parks in CCity
- Relative silence from everyone in Billie's and Shawn's families and circle of friends for over 2 months now (except one prolific defender of Billie via internet blogs)..

Starting to wonder just how many other POIs there might be, and if this case might be much more complex than I originally imagined.



Just thinking out loud. MOO....
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Offender ID: 12180
Date of Birth: 01/12/1962
Age: 49
Race: White
Gender: Female

Custody Status: Out of Custody
Date: 02/26/2011
Reason: Bonded out

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BJ wrote:Offender ID: 12180
Date of Birth: 01/12/1962
Age: 49
Race: White
Gender: Female

Custody Status: Out of Custody
Date: 02/26/2011
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Thanks for the update! When it was published earlier that she had previous arrests, including 3 DWIs (link upthread), it was disturbing. If she's on pills and has an alcohol addiction too, very bad situation...
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Post by charminglane on Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:54 pm

truthbtold wrote:The combination of these new and old confirmations from LE is adding up to a whole new theory in my mind:

- multiple POIs
- over 100,300 images of child porn and other deviant acts
- Drug use at every turn (and possibly dealing)
- Criminal history in the families; need for money
- Hobbies that include violence and sex
- Sweet Hailey being alone in the house and not being seen for at least 1.5 full days before she was reported missing
- Failed polys and ever-changing stories regarding Hailey and the time line surrounding her disappearance
- Kampfer stating CCPD is beefing up security around schools and parks in CCity
- Relative silence from everyone in Billie's and Shawn's families and circle of friends for over 2 months now (except one prolific defender of Billie via internet blogs)..

Starting to wonder just how many other POIs there might be, and if this case might be much more complex than I originally imagined.



Just thinking out loud. MOO....

This case is going to get so much more crazy a**backwards worse our heads are going to explode.
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Volunteers from the search party said though it is disheartening to think child porn was found at the home, their main focus is to bring Hailey Dunn home safe.
“We just need to find Hailey. It doesn’t matter. We need to find her," Stephanie Boyd, search party coordinator, urged.
Saturday morning more than a dozen searchers from across the Big Country were out looking for the missing 13-year-old girl.
“I want to thank all the searchers that have been out here to help us,” Boyd said. “It really means a lot to me. All of them will have a special place in my heart for them to take off time from work or take off time from their kids and all that to come help us.
KTXS News reported Friday, that a computer memory stick that contained graphic pictures including child pornography was taken from Billie Dunn and Shawn Adkins bedroom. Also, a computer with more than 100,000 other graphic images, were taken by officials from Adkin's mother's home.
KTXS went by Billie’s house, Saturday afternoon, to get her reaction to the pornographic images, however no one answered.
Despite the new information, searchers said it will not stop them from looking for the missing teen.
“All of the other stuff that has come out aside, our main focus is Hailey," Boyd stressed.
Saturday, Colorado City City Manager Pete Kampfer said no arrests have been made, but prosecutors are gathering their evidence and plan to take it to a grand jury.
To help find Hailey, a member of the search team had car magnets and bumper stickers made.
“We figured the more people that see Hailey's face, the more chance that we may come onto something that somebody knows something,” Boyd said.
Searchers want to remind people that a $5,500 reward will be given to anyone who has real information on how to find the teen and $10,000 for the person who brings Hailey home safe.
Next Friday, search groups will continue their search for Hailey.

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A photo of Hailey Dunn, with a handwritten note from Hailey to her history teacher Andra Maxwell written on a piece of masking tape hangs on a board in Maxwell classroom at Colorado Middle School in Colorado City, Thursday, Jan. 6, 2011.


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