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Post by jeanne1807 on Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:48 am

gnreed here is one for you.

I have pondered why in heavens name LE would get in touch with radio hosts and reveal information related to a missing person case? Then why would the host tell?

Is there a local theory on that one?

Do you have some really dumb LE that are making some real blunders.

That "neither confirm or deny" was another silly move if LE actually said that. Why say anything?

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Post by truthbtold on Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:02 am

gnreed wrote:
Rainbow wrote: It's good that we all have varied viewpoints about this case.

I agree. I DO believe BD to be the main suspect in this case. I don't believe she would stand by Mr. Awesome if she only knew what happened but didn't participate. I don't believe she would risk facing prison if she only had knowledge of what happened.
Also, the statement of looking in and seeing Hailey but not touching her (or something to that effect) really disturbs me.



I agree too.

The statement about "peeking in on" Hailey on Monday 12/27 a.m. is disturbing; both versions of it. First, Billie said on Nancy Grace that she peeked in on Hailey just to "ease her mind" and did't touch her. Looking back, she only thought she saw her but couldn't be sure. Then she said at her 1/31 press conference that she peeked in on Hailey, she seen her, and it "pacified" her. If there was no problem or altercation at home, as Billie claimed, why was she uneasy and needing to be pacified. Imo, she knew Hailey was dead or she knew Hailey was at risk from something terrible that happened on Sunday night 12/26. Billie was there went stuff went down. JMO...


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Post by Praying For Faith on Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:21 am

by jeanne, March 15, 2011,
My husband was talking about 911 calls last evening. Unusual for him. He never gets involved. He was talking about the cost and the attitude of officers that have to keep responding to the same BS over and over.

You can hear from Billies voice when she is on those 911 calls that she and LE are NOT strangers. She thinks they TO SERVE AND PROTECT her. Billie Jean Dunn. They are at her beck and call. Somebody doesn't behave..Billie picks up the phone.

I so agree with the above statement jeanne. I occasionally check the online reports on the Sheriff's website just to see what trouble is happening around me. Most of what I see is really stupid calls for Domestic Violence. JMOO! By the time the LE gets there most of them are over with and oh, we just had a verbal argument. Everything is okay now. IMO, they out to be charged for the call that these officers are sent out on. So, I agree with you and your husband.

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Post by jeanne1807 on Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:44 am

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by jeanne, March 15, 2011,
My husband was talking about 911 calls last evening. Unusual for him. He never gets involved. He was talking about the cost and the attitude of officers that have to keep responding to the same BS over and over.

You can hear from Billies voice when she is on those 911 calls that she and LE are NOT strangers. She thinks they TO SERVE AND PROTECT her. Billie Jean Dunn. They are at her beck and call. Somebody doesn't behave..Billie picks up the phone.

I so agree with the above statement jeanne. I occasionally check the online reports on the Sheriff's website just to see what trouble is happening around me. Most of what I see is really stupid calls for Domestic Violence. JMOO! By the time the LE gets there most of them are over with and oh, we just had a verbal argument. Everything is okay now. IMO, they out to be charged for the call that these officers are sent out on. So, I agree with you and your husband.


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Post by jeanne1807 on Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:45 am

In domestic violence the wounds are so deep. There is the abused woman syndrom. There are the children..the breadwinner is usually the abuser.

Billie and an abused woman are two completely different cases. Billie is a pest. Abused women are so sad.

I hope nobody thought by my statement I was dismissing all 911 calls. Some are so sad. I know I lived that nightmare. Before it was popular. My stepfather was an alcoholic and an abuser. My mother called the police a couple of times when he went completely nuts. But she never pressed charges. She had no job and no family support and no money and three kids. She couldn't.
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Post by Praying For Faith on Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:17 am

jeanne,

I did not misunderstand your post. I just see LE being called what to me is unnecessary calls that they have to make. For example, a lady called in to report that her soon to be ex husband came over and laid on her bed with dirty clothes on, just to start an argument. He pulled some of her clothes out of the closet and threw them on the floor. It was stated that a judge ordered her to give him a key to the house. It states that there were no threats, violence or reported injuries. Case closed. IMO, that call was unnecessary for the LE to have to respond to.

I understand that there are a lot of necessary domestic violence calls that are made.


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Post by gnreed on Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:44 am

jeanne1807 wrote:gnreed here is one for you.

I have pondered why in heavens name LE would get in touch with radio hosts and reveal information related to a missing person case? Then why would the host tell?

Is there a local theory on that one?

Do you have some really dumb LE that are making some real blunders.

That "neither confirm or deny" was another silly move if LE actually said that. Why say anything?

I am hoping we don't have really dumb LE working on this. I can say in my opinion only, we have NOT heard anything from LE. This includes PK. I have heard he does not know ANY details of the case. LE has not said anything about the case, which I believe is good.
IMO, there MAY have been something found in the landfills. I have heard there was something found, then heard again there was nothing found. Did LE confirm either way, or was it just PK talking?
I do have on tape Sheriff Toombs stating child porn was found at the Big Spring residence and the BD residence. Then I hear where no child porn was found in the BD residence.
In my opinion, LE may be withholding the child porn found in the BD residence to attempt to get information from her. Tell or be charged. May not be true but who knows at this point.

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Post by Boston_Lady on Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:52 am

There are so many stories surrounding this case it is difficult to separate what is fact from fiction.

Peter H, Rachel and Bea from BTHN stated they spoke to the DA on the case. The DA told Peter his analysis was correct with the exception of the CP on the memory stick. The DA confirmed to him that there was no CP on the memory stick and that the media had that wrong. And, they wanted it stated on the show that Billie Jean and Shawn were the ONLY suspects/poi's and it had been that way from the beginning.

Now on FB, a person named "Cat" was on the HDOD page and she stated she is a local and she called LE & DA and LE confirmed there was no CP on the memory stick. But LE only confirmed that Shawn was a suspect. They did not confirm Billie Jean. But they also didn't say BJ was NOT a suspect. This Cat person also said that the people she spoke to were Sheriff Toombs and the DA Anne (Forgot the last name)

Now first, what the heck with the DA and LE giving out information to citizens? Peter spoke to a male DA and this Cat spoke to a female DA. I think this can be that there are two counties who are dealing with this case. Mitchell & Howard counties. I don't remember if Peter indicated which DA he spoke with. I'll have to go back and listen to the show. But this Cat spoke to a female in Mitchell County.

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Post by Boston_Lady on Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:56 am

And one comment about the BD sightings (not to be confused with Elvis) :crystal ball:

The person who saw BD in Walmart said she was standing directly behind her. She didn't think to snap a picture (someone asked that on FB) and it would have been uncomfortable being so close. The same person said that Shawn was sitting in the passenger seat of the vehicle.

I believe her. No reason to lie. Picking up a prescription sounds about right for BJD.
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Post by gnreed on Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:14 am

Boston_Lady wrote:There are so many stories surrounding this case it is difficult to separate what is fact from fiction.


Now on FB, a person named "Cat" was on the HDOD page and she stated she is a local and she called LE & DA and LE confirmed there was no CP on the memory stick. But LE only confirmed that Shawn was a suspect. They did not confirm Billie Jean. But they also didn't say BJ was NOT a suspect. This Cat person also said that the people she spoke to were Sheriff Toombs and the DA Anne (Forgot the last name) Now first, what the heck with the DA and LE giving out information to citizens? Peter spoke to a male DA and this Cat spoke to a female DA. I think this can be that there are two counties who are dealing with this case. Mitchell & Howard counties. I don't remember if Peter indicated which DA he spoke with. I'll have to go back and listen to the show. But this Cat spoke to a female in Mitchell County.

Anyone else have any info? head bang

DA Ann Reed's jurisdiction covers Nolan, Mitchell and I believe Fisher County. Her main office is located in Sweetwater, which is Nolan County.
I stopped reading the Hailey Dunn Facebook pages. I couldn't tell who is truthful and who is full of it.

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Post by truthbtold on Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:24 am

FWIW, Cat is probably the same cat that was selling the merchandise on zazzle.com 3 weeks after Hailey went missing. The friend of Billie's other dear friend who used to post here. I don't believe for a second that anyone from LE would be giving her details of the case and I do believe she has clearly demonstrated from past posts and actions that she has a personal agenda. Imo, pure fiction...
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Post by Boston_Lady on Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:34 pm

I agree gnreed. It's all over the map !

And thank you TBT. I'd never heard of her but she was posting as if she has a connection to LE. I've just never heard of people being able to just pick up the phone and ask about a case!

And, this is the craziest case of all ... crazy3
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Post by jeanne1807 on Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:35 pm

PFF no problems. I know it kind of looked like I was responding to your post. I wasn't. I didn't want anybody to think I didn't have sympathy for those abused but have no place to turn.

gnreed with all the silence from LE that makes it even stranger that they would give any information to radio people. That one puzzles me.

TBT from what I am reading on the FB pages they have a little war going. Everybody wants to be "in the know". I am taking what they say with a grain of salt. It only peeks my attention when I hear several saying the same thing and then I think..maybe.

BL can you imagine standing in Walmart and have BD turn around and be face to face. After all this blogging about her....personally I would faint. lol
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Post by Boston_Lady on Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:50 pm

jeanne1807 wrote:PFF no problems. I know it kind of looked like I was responding to your post. I wasn't. I didn't want anybody to think I didn't have sympathy for those abused but have no place to turn.

gnreed with all the silence from LE that makes it even stranger that they would give any information to radio people. That one puzzles me.

TBT from what I am reading on the FB pages they have a little war going. Everybody wants to be "in the know". I am taking what they say with a grain of salt. It only peeks my attention when I hear several saying the same thing and then I think..maybe.

BL can you imagine standing in Walmart and have BD turn around and be face to face. After all this blogging about her....personally I would faint. lol


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Post by Boston_Lady on Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:16 pm

I was looking at some YouTube's with Billie Dunn and found this one from 1/27 - CBS. I'm not sure if I ever saw this. Billie makes some interesting statements.

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On 1/27 she said in response to if she is still in contact with Shawn "We still talk some over the phone" That was a big LIE. She was involved with him then. He was at her house.

The reporter asked her if she ever thought back and had some what if's"

Billie said "I wished I wouldn't have gone to work that day. I wished I would have called her that night. "

This is significant. She placed the "work that day" first, which means it is of more importance than the call the night before. Is this the day that something happened to Hailey that she could maybe have prevented?

She ended with:

"I just decided..As long as I can believe Hailey is alive and can come home safe, I'm going to believe that"

That is a creepy statement. She decided.

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Post by charminglane on Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:59 pm

Was BJD fired from her job?
Is she on a "leave of absence?"
Is she receiving unemployment?
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Post by Boston_Lady on Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:11 pm

I think this means an arrest is close:

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Searches for missing 13-year-old Hailey Dunn continue to dwindle down. She was last seen at her Colorado City home on Dec. 27.

According to Colorado City city manager Pete Kampfer, law enforcement is out looking for her only on a "need-be basis." If there are crews available or if there is an area where investigators need to look at, they will search it, he added.

Meanwhile, volunteer groups say they will continue to search for Dunn until they find her, and her family is still working to get the word out.

Clint Dunn and the search group "Hope for hailey" will be at Railhead Trade Days in Colorado City this Saturday with a booth to pass out flyers. A similar booth was set up at the Rattlesnake Roundup in Sweetwater this past weekend.
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Post by jeanne1807 on Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:24 pm

Along with what BL posted above there seems to be some movement on this case.

Peter K is suposed to be on the radio tomorrow morning and there are RUMORS that a Grand Jury could be convening this next week.

Sounds like LE has got enough to move forward.

All of this is just the Rumor Mill but there is enough to make me want to hear what PK has to say tomorrow.

I would be happier to hear LE speak but patience.

MOO is that they are going down on the porn. I don't think they have enough for Hailey just yet.
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Post by Wrapitup on Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:52 am

I went ahead and posted the actual You Tube on BL's post. I noticed she had a nice sized flat screen tv. I am presuming the interview was done at her house. How many nicely sized flat screens does one person need? She does not mention David at all. Also, I found the interviewer to be asking her, "Do you have a hard time sleeping at night?" "Is it hard to look at Hailey's picture's?" What else is she going to say? Even if she killed Hailey with her bare hands (I don't think that) she would say she cannot sleep or she stares at the pics and then some days cannot look at them. He should NOT have asked her such leading questions.

Jeanne, I agree with you. They probably don't have enough to arrest either for Hailey's murder, but DO have enough for the child porn and beastiality.

I Still think Hailey was traded to sex trafficker's for either drugs or money. That is why she cannot be found. She is nowhere near. MOO.

BJ, The video you posted sure made me sad. What a darling girl she was. It also got to me as they were the ages that my grandson's are now.

What a sad case this is. And, no end in sight. crying

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Post by truthbtold on Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:10 am

Something's gotta give soon. Why isn't there one hungry local reporter asking LE and the case players the important and tough questions? They might not always answer, but sure wish a real investigative reporter was on the scene for this one. That void leaves us with case updates coming from a city politician, the suspect, a POI, and unverified Facebook claims. Interesting, but frustrating.

Wrap, I think Clint shares your suspicions and won't lose hope that Hailey was trafficked rather than murdered unless/until there is solid proof. Imo, there's a very good chance that Hailey is dead, but I'm glad somebody who loves her continues to search for a live Hailey.
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jeanne1807 wrote:gnreed here is one for you.

I have pondered why in heavens name LE would get in touch with radio hosts and reveal information related to a missing person case? Then why would the host tell?

Is there a local theory on that one?

Do you have some really dumb LE that are making some real blunders.

That "neither confirm or deny" was another silly move if LE actually said that. Why say anything?

This is O/T, but if you want an example of some really dumb LE - check out the Elizabeth Ennen thread! I sure hope that this LE is a lot more "with it" than they were!! head bang
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Post by Wrapitup on Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:18 am

TBT, I don't know whether Hailey is alive or not, but I really do think she was traded to the traffickers. I think after awhile, they kill them.

If that is the case, than I would hope Hailey was killed instead of trafficked out. The mere thought of that darling girl being traded from one sicko to another is just too much to bear. I seriously don't know how Clint can get by day after day. I think I would be smoking the whacky tabacky, too, at this point.

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Post by truthbtold on Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:19 am

Wrapitup wrote:TBT, I don't know whether Hailey is alive or not, but I really do think she was traded to the traffickers. I think after awhile, they kill them.

If that is the case, than I would hope Hailey was killed instead of trafficked out. The mere thought of that darling girl being traded from one sicko to another is just too much to bear. I seriously don't know how Clint can get by day after day. I think I would be smoking the whacky tabacky, too, at this point.

I hear ya. Just a little hope goes a long way though. Clint got Hailey involved in martial arts and she's athletic; I bet he hopes if she was trafficked her toughness will help her (well, that's my hope anyway). I agree she's probably dead no mater what, but that little glimmer of hope... It was sad hearing Clint talk about how hard it would be for Hailey to ever have a normal life once he finds her. He was so desperate to get credible stats on how many victims of trafficking are recovered. (This was all in his last blog talk BTHN interivew) Imo, he suspects at least Shawn was involved at this point, instead of a random abductor. Slowly accepting some likely truths, imo. Clint's no saint, that's for sure, but the not knowing must be unbearable.

P.s. I hope Hailey is not in any of the pornographic images if she is miraculously alive; but if she's deceased, it would probably help tie the cases of the porn and the disappearance together. I think we'll be finding out soon...
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Post by Wrapitup on Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:57 am

tbt said:
P.s. I hope Hailey is not in any of the pornographic images if she is miraculously alive; but if she's deceased, it would probably help tie the cases of the porn and the disappearance together. I think we'll be finding out soon...
Unfortunately, I have to agree. One thing I see in Hailey via the video's. She seems like a very strong, solid and sure of herself girl who is goal oriented. I think that drove BD nuts that she is everything BD isn't - instead of being proud of her. I bet on the outside to her friends, she acted like she was proud of her, but behind closed doors - it was completely different. And, I definitely think that her "masked boy toy" (where is NN these days?) was giving Hailey the eye big time. He would then probably deny it to BD. I bet it was a bone of contention between them. And I DO think she gave Hailey all the freedom she wanted; let her walk the streets at night alone and never picked her up after a ball game. She was too busy making child porn and beastiality movies..even if she was only the photographer. MOO.

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COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Shawn Adkins, the boyfriend of missing Texas teen Hailey Dunn’s mother, Billie Dunn, and one of the only two suspects in Hailey’s disappearance, was asked during an online radio talk show if he’d ever said he could kill someone and that no one would ever find the body.

Examiner.com was informed Saturday by hosts of the Bring Them Home Now online radio show that Billie Dunn is now also a person of interest in Hailey’s disappearance.

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Post by Praying For Faith on Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:37 am

The longer this case goes on and the more that comes out, the sicker I get. I wish poor Hailey would be found.

It looks like she did not have any good role models in her family at all.

I keep remembering the picture of Hailey with her teacher. She looked so happy, like she should be.




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Post by Boston_Lady on Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:25 pm

I find it very unusual that the local news organizations have not picked up the POI story. They were very slow in reporting that CP was found too.

I don't think Hailey was traded or sold to sex traffic rings. Unfortunately, I think she is deceased. Billie Dunn used too many past tense statements when speaking of Hailey. And her last few blog radio show interviews came too close to what happened. Billie said the LE told her that they believed Shawn "murdered" her daughter. The word "murder" was used by Billie.

The other thing that is bothering me is the fact that all of her shoes were accounted for. At first, they said Hailey was wearing her pink tennis shoes. But then when the police were searching her room, they saw they were still in her room. At that time, Billie changed it to flip flops.

I just get a feeling that this is where Shawn screwed up. When he moved Hailey, he never put shoes on her.

I read on PH's blog and FB that the grand jury is meeting today. If so, maybe we can expect an arrest soon?
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Post by jeanne1807 on Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:46 pm

BL where are you reading about a GJ meeting today. I have been looking and what I read was no they weren't meeting and then read it was a secret meeting and then they were meeting but not about Hailey.

I would like to see a link to those comments.

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Post by Boston_Lady on Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:37 pm

Hi Jeanne,

This is one of the comments from Peter's blog. There are also more on Facebook. That will take some looking but I will see what I can find. But take a look below:

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I called the Colorado City police department, and the lady who answered the phone said she thought the grand jury was meeting today because there were a lot of cars over there. She looked again and said the cars were gone. It is lunch time in Texas, so I hope they are on a lunch break.

It is interesting to me that they the Grand Jury is meeting earlier than planned.

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Post by Wrapitup on Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:43 pm

I wouldn't take that as the gospel truth, but thanks for posting it!!

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Post by Boston_Lady on Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:45 pm

Here you go.. it's official but I'm very confused !

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HOWARD COUNTY - The Howard County grand jury meets on Thursday but don't expect any indictments to be handed up in the Hailey Dunn case.

Last month, Mitchell County authorities told NewsWest 9 that child pornography was found on a computer inside the home of Shawn Adkins' mother in Big Spring.

Adkins is the only person of interest named in the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.

Howard County District Attorney Hardy Wilkerson says no child pornography cases will be going before the grand jury on Thursday and he hasn't received the case from investigators.

A grand jury in Sweetwater is also supposed to consider evidence seized from Hailey's mother's house in Colorado City. How can they not be ready?

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Hailey Dunn disappeared back on December 27th in Colorado City.
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Post by Guest on Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:54 pm

child pornography was found on a computer inside the home of Shawn Adkins' mother in Big Spring.
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Adkins is the only person of interest named in the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.
Now will this change again? You betcha. What kind of game is being played between LE and the media? First there is child porn then there is not. Then there are 2 persons of interest but now there is only 1.
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Post by Boston_Lady on Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:04 pm

Sorry, It looks like my copy and paste got screwed up. The "How can they not be ready" was from me ! angry

I think this was interesting:

A grand jury in Sweetwater is also supposed to consider evidence seized from Hailey's mother's house in Colorado City.


I thought they said there was no CP on what they found in Billie's house. But, maybe there is other evidence they didn't release yet?
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Post by Boston_Lady on Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:10 pm

I just thought of something. Why would the GJ meet earlier than the planned 3/24 date if the DA was not ready to present?

Something is off.
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Post by gnreed on Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:13 pm

Could it be possible they are going after federal charges?

I noticed this is already being discussed on another website. I am assuming it is a possibility.

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Post by raine1953 on Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:45 pm

Where my confusion comes in is, when is child porn a state crime? I've known about federal but that's all. Interesting to read the 2nd law down where I bolded.I had assumed that on March 24th a special grand jury is meeting to determine who will be indicted on federal charges. I could be all wrong but does anyone know the answer on what constitutes child porn as a state charge?

Under federal law (18 U.S.C. §2256), child pornography1 is defined as any visual depiction, including any photograph, film, video, picture, or computer or computer-generated image or picture, whether made or produced by electronic, mechanical, or other means, of sexually explicit conduct, where

the production of the visual depiction involves the use of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; or

the visual depiction is a digital image, computer image, or computer-generated image that is, or is indistinguishable from, that of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; or

the visual depiction has been created, adapted, or modified to appear that an identifiable minor is engaging in sexually explicit conduct.

Federal law (18 U.S.C. §1466A) also criminalizes knowingly producing, distributing, receiving, or possessing with intent to distribute, a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture or painting, that

depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct and is obscene, or

depicts an image that is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in graphic bestiality
, sadistic or masochistic abuse, or sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex and such depiction lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
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Post by Nama on Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:23 pm

The Howard County grand jury meets on Thursday but don't expect any indictments to be handed up in the Hailey Dunn case.

Last month, Mitchell County authorities told NewsWest 9 that child pornography was found on a computer inside the home of Shawn Adkins' mother in Big Spring.

It also says that Shawn is the only person of interest named in the dissappearance of Hailey and NO child porn cases will go before the GJ on Thursday. The DA hasn't even received the case from the investigators. What are they waiting for?

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Post by charminglane on Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:52 pm

Could this be tied to the big child porn EU/US bust recently in Amsterdam?

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Post by Wrapitup on Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:27 pm

I posted what the Texas Law on Child Porn and Beastiality is awhile back, in fact..the day we heard about it. I am sure grneed would know the law as to the difference between Texas State and Federal charges.

I also posted the big child porn bust under Trafficking earlier today.

This case is driving us all insane the way LE says one thing and does another. I think if we are confused, how must BD and SA feel? Maybe they want to keep them confused.

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Post by Boston_Lady on Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:43 pm

If they are trying to confuse people, it's WORKING ! I feel like it's a roller coaster. As soon as it feels like it close and something will happen, zooom, right to the bottom with a negative news item.

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Post by jeanne1807 on Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:00 pm

Boston_Lady wrote:Here you go.. it's official but I'm very confused !

Staff Report
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HOWARD COUNTY - The Howard County grand jury meets on Thursday but don't expect any indictments to be handed up in the Hailey Dunn case.

Last month, Mitchell County authorities told NewsWest 9 that child pornography was found on a computer inside the home of Shawn Adkins' mother in Big Spring.

Adkins is the only person of interest named in the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.

Howard County District Attorney Hardy Wilkerson says no child pornography cases will be going before the grand jury on Thursday and he hasn't received the case from investigators.

A grand jury in Sweetwater is also supposed to consider evidence seized from Hailey's mother's house in Colorado City. How can they not be ready?

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Hailey Dunn disappeared back on December 27th in Colorado City.

This sounds fishy to me. That grand jury was not supposed to meet til next week. I think they are speaking with forked tongue. Something is happening. They are telling us what is "not" going to happen. There is a lot that "could" happen. They haven't made a list.

I think something will happen but I don't think we will hear for a while. A GJ meets and has to hear all the evidence. Then they deliberate and then an indictment is handed down or it is dismissed. If it is dismissed we hear nothing. If it is handed down there is an arrest.

Depending on which charges they are hearing..thats how many witnesses they will hear from or how much evidence will be included.

Come to think of it. If it is the Porn it could be decided on Thursday or Friday.

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Post by Wrapitup on Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:41 pm

I hope you are correct, Jeanne. It's about time someone is arrested here. This is getting ridiculous!

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The search for Hailey Dunn continues — and has not gone cold — even though the Colorado City teen has been missing almost three months, a local official said.

City Manager Pete Kampfer, the spokesman for the investigation, said the search for the 13-year-old middle school student, who was reported missing Dec. 28, has not stalled and that investigators continue to follow up on any leads.

"They work the case, go out and search, and write reports on what they did or did not find,' Kampfer said. "It is all part of the progression of the case for law enforcement."

Officials said more than 108,000 images, reportedly depicting bestiality and child pornography, were discovered on a computer confiscated from the Big Spring home of the mother of Shawn Adkins, the former boyfriend of Billie Dunn, Hailey's mother.

Another 320 images depicting child pornography were said to be on the memory stick, found inside a dresser that Billie Dunn shared with Adkins in Colorado City.

Adkins is the only named suspect in the case.

Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs said that although the devices were obtained through search warrants related to the Hailey Dunn investigation, the child pornography case was being handled as a separate investigation.

Howard County District Attorney Hardy Wilkerson said no evidence would be presented to the grand jury this week. Ann Reed, the district attorney for Mitchell, Nolan and Fisher counties, did not return calls for comment.

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Post by gnreed on Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:01 am

I have read several cases on the internet involving child porn. A number of these cases are filed in Federal Court including one in Abilene this week.
It will be interesting to see if Federal charges are filed in child porn case and the state pursues charges in reference to Hailey being missing.

Federal time may be easier time to serve but usually a longer sentence.

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Post by jeanne1807 on Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:02 am

Raine I think a simple explanation of State and Federal Porn would be this.

State if it is person to person in one state.

Federal if it crosses state lines.

Of course that almost makes too much sense for our government and I am only guessing.
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Post by Boston_Lady on Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:52 am

A very interesting article from the Examiner. I didn't copy the entire story as it was a little long. This references statement analysis and the BTHN show.

Shawn's disregard of his lawyer isn't surprising.

Hailey Dunn: Analysis of Shawn Adkins’ statement about killing someone

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Shawn Adkins, the boyfriend of missing Texas teen Hailey Dunn’s mother, Billie Dunn, and one of the only two suspects in Hailey’s disappearance, was asked during an online radio talk show if he’d ever said he could kill someone and that no one would ever find the body.

Examiner.com was informed Saturday by hosts of the Bring Them Home Now online radio show that Billie Dunn is now also a person of interest in Hailey’s disappearance.

After being asked the question, Adkins gave a brief response and the call went dead. Try as they may, the hosts of the show were unable to get him back on the line.

On Sat., Mar. 3, Adkins agreed to an interview on the Bring Them Home Now show. The show is co-hosted by Bee Herz and Rachel Englehart and highlights both current and cold missing person’s cases.

Bee said she invited Adkins on the show because he was being “vilified” online and was declaring his innocence in Hailey’s disappearance.

“I’d been talking with Billie for the past month-and-a-half [in preparation for the shows] and she told me she had nothing to do with Hailey going missing. She said Shawn was saying he too had nothing to do with it,” Bee said.

“People were turning him into a monster and he was saying he was innocent,” she said. “I wanted to give him the opportunity to declare his innocence.

“I suggested he come on the show so he could speak to the allegations and rumors, declare his innocence, and clear his name since he said he had nothing to do with Hailey’s disappearance,” she said.

“I think the public needs to hear from you,” she told him, “Because if they don’t they’ll make things up in their heads about you.” That’s why, Bee said, she discussed Shawn’s childhood when he appeared on the show Mar. 3. “I was trying to make him into a real person during the interview,” she said.

Bee raised the concern with Adkins that his lawyer had stated he should remain quiet and Adkins told Bee, “F… my lawyer, I’m coming on.”

He did.

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Post by charminglane on Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:14 am

Maybe Hailey will get lucky this St.Patrick's Day.
The evil people around her will be arrested.
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Post by truthbtold on Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:03 pm

charminglane wrote:Maybe Hailey will get lucky this St.Patrick's Day.
The evil people around her will be arrested.


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Post by sdillard on Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:41 pm

I havent slept very much or very well at all since Monday night. I keep waking up around 230am and its nearly impossible to get back to sleep. I had seen photos of the dunn home the 2nd week of feb, and near the top I saw a "vent" and I have always wondered if that space up there was ever searched. There may be some kind of evidence there, and I know they (LE) were talking of looking under the house, but never heard anything about under the roof. May not be an attic but there is a space if there is a vent. Working at a hospital would also give someone access to those large bags similar to trash bags, only bigger. They are graded for biohazards, so dogs wouldnt likely be able to detect a scent.I also keep thinking Hailey was moved when they (BD,SA) were moving the furniture in and out of the house. It would be a lot less conspicuous with all the other large things they were moving. I also think Hailey is on SAs grammas property, buried or in a pond. JMO MOO
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