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Post by Boston_Lady Thu May 05, 2011 3:29 pm

Wrapitup wrote:Why would Carla Rodriguez be at Shawn's grandmother's home? Color me confused!


I don't know but she is related to the "norwood" clan. i.e. Corey Norwood Shawn's cousin. And, her name was mentioned on the second search warrant at Shawn's Grandmom's. See below.

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Post by truthbtold Thu May 05, 2011 3:31 pm

Wrapitup wrote:Why would Carla Rodriguez be at Shawn's grandmother's home? Color me confused!

I think she's the girlfriend or wife of the Uncle that also lives at grandma's in Dunn. She was quoted in affidavit as telling LE that Shawn Adkins using the computer at the house "all the time", IIRC.

CORRECTION: Carla Rodriquez was quoted as telling investigators that Shawn used the computer "all the time" in a Big Country article. Link below:
[i]Flournoy noted in the documents that he was given consent on or around Feb. 7 by Norwood to search one of the computers. Carla Rene Rodriguez told investigators that Adkins uses the computer “all the time.”[/i]
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Post by truthbtold Thu May 05, 2011 5:33 pm

Billie Dunn, Mom of Missing Teen, to Appear Live on KRBC News at 5 & 6

Billie Dunn, whose daughter, Hailey, was last seen at their Clorado City home on December 27, will appear on KRBC News at 5 and 6 this evening to answer questions about her daughter's disappearance.

After more than a month of doing television interviews with national and local media almost daily in the wake of Hailey's disappearance, Dunn has kept a low profile since hiring attorney John Young in March.

She was arrested in March and charged with hindering an apprehension, possession of dangerous drugs and false report to a police officer. Officers served a search warrant at her home, looking for her ex-boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, who is the only listed person of interest in Hailey's case.

Check back for additional details following Dunn's live television interviews.

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Interesting timing considering yesterday's unofficial reports about LE activity surrounding Shawn Adkins. I so hope this case is starting to move forward...
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Post by mommyof3kids Thu May 05, 2011 5:59 pm

Thanks TBT for your play by play updates! I am wondering what she will say this time??
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Post by truthbtold Thu May 05, 2011 6:22 pm

mommyof3kids wrote:Thanks TBT for your play by play updates! I am wondering what she will say this time??

mommy, you can watch the video of the interview here. And, there's more coming later today.

I am almost speechless. Worst interviewer and worst interview (and most transparent attempt to make a POI a victim, right down to the new need to tear up on camera) that I've ever seen. Unbelievable...

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Post by samgoodwin Thu May 05, 2011 6:44 pm

Geez, her lawyer sure tried to smooth that over! Poor Billie just had a couple muscle relaxers and that's what kept her from renewing her license and getting back to work. Righhhht.
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Post by truthbtold Thu May 05, 2011 7:05 pm

samgoodwin wrote:Geez, her lawyer sure tried to smooth that over! Poor Billie just had a couple muscle relaxers and that's what kept her from renewing her license and getting back to work. Righhhht.

sam, I bet you loved the questions! Talk about long winded, feeding the answers in the questions, pussy-footing around... It was terrible and I actually had hope that it would be a good well-prepared interview. The media has had over a month to come up with questions and review the facts before sitting down with Billie and her lawyer. Disappointing..

Mr. Young is something else. What a peddler of poppycock. Poor Billie - unfairly conspired against by LE to lie and possess illegal drugs; unfairly stopped from being a productive working nurse by the licensing board just because she was arrested for illegally possessing dangerous drugs; unfairly scrutinized by people who have the nerve to investigate the POIs in attempt to find the missing child....

In Part 2 we get to hear Billie and Mr. Young share their thoughts about Shawn Adkins. I think Mr. Young wants to start throwing him under the bus now, based on the newspaper interview last week, but Billie isn't ready to go there. Stay tuned...
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Post by samgoodwin Thu May 05, 2011 7:13 pm

I got the impression Billie may be a little sweet on Mr. Young, he dresses nicer than her usual men, and probably has way more money. LOL.

I don't think Billie will turn on Shawn boy yet, but it should be interesting. Maybe they can accuse those nasty cops some more of having the nerve to ask "who done it."
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Post by raine1953 Thu May 05, 2011 7:23 pm

"We want 'our baby' home", John Young Barf
Billie wiping away fake tears and sniffing Barf
They make me sick. He's trying to paint her as a victim. Lies grrrr
Poor Hailey. It\\'s Not Fair
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Post by truthbtold Thu May 05, 2011 7:30 pm

raine1953 wrote:"We want 'our baby' home", John Young Barf
Billie wiping away fake tears and sniffing Barf
They make me sick. He's trying to paint her as a victim. Lies grrrr
Poor Hailey. It\\'s Not Fair

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Post by Boston_Lady Thu May 05, 2011 7:35 pm

Well dang, this is a surprise. I left work at 5:30 ish and did errands, just got home and there was an interview? Was it Live or taped? From what I've read above (Thanks TBT) the whole theme that she is a victim is nauseating. And so how does her losing her nursing license due to drugs/lateness have anything to do with her new charges? Did Billie Jean tell her attorney that she was working as a secretary and she could get a job without a license for that?

I'm not sure I can bring myself to watch it. I am just eating dinner now.. I'll see how I feel after :)
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Post by Boston_Lady Thu May 05, 2011 7:40 pm

samgoodwin wrote:I got the impression Billie may be a little sweet on Mr. Young, he dresses nicer than her usual men, and probably has way more money. LOL.

I don't think Billie will turn on Shawn boy yet, but it should be interesting. Maybe they can accuse those nasty cops some more of having the nerve to ask "who done it."


Well I'm not surprised. She is going to want to trade up in the $$$$$ .. Bu Bye Shawn Electric Chair
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Post by truthbtold Thu May 05, 2011 8:08 pm

Boston_Lady, it was a live interview and they posted the video right afterwards. Not sure when part 2 is to be aired and posted.

Amazing example of blatant deception and misrepresentation. Imo, it gives us insight into Billie's eventual defense strategy.
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Post by Boston_Lady Thu May 05, 2011 8:28 pm

I just watched Part 1 and I can't decide whether I want to scream or barf. Maybe both ! First, the interviewer was awful. WHY WHY do they ask a question and then give Billie multiple choice answers? Billie needs direct one question at a time. She can't follow a compound question. And in this interview she actually said "I don't understand your question" lol I have to say, the interviewer lost me for a minute because she didn't ask the question until the middle of her dissertation !!!

My next observation is the lawyer. Boy is he shifty. He was looking to the right, squinting his eyes, Dollar Signs nodding his head, very very annoying. And he downplayed Billie's arrest. She took flexeril to relax and it was from an old prescription. I did notice he did not approach the lying to LE. I guess since she admitted it on camera, he can't say that didn't happen.

And Billie. Yikes, couldn't they have put her in something a little more flattering. Hello BOOBS. That's what jumped out to me. pole dancer And then her crying. gag. She's not going to look in the fields for her daughter. And both she and Clint need an advocate to speak to the police? So Mr. Attorney can't help her there?

The whole first part of the interview was chilling. :really cold:
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Post by lisette Thu May 05, 2011 9:23 pm

"Someone Knows Where She Is," Mother of Hailey Dunn Tells KRBC
Reported by: Laura Kellerman
Thursday, May 05 2011
Billie Dunn, whose daughter, Hailey, was last seen at their Colorado City home on December 27 appeared on KRBC News at 5pm and 6pm Thursday to answer questions about her daughter's disappearance.

After more than a month of doing television interviews with national and local media almost daily in the wake of Hailey's disappearance, Dunn has kept a low profile since hiring attorney John Young in March.

During the first part of today's interview, Dunn told KRBC anchor Brittany Pelletz that she has not been in communication with investigators, and is trying to obtain an advocate to get her questions answered.

"There was a chilling effect (on our desire to cooperate) when this case became about 'who done it' rather than finding Hailey," Young said.

Dunn was arrested in March and charged with hindering an apprehension, possession of dangerous drugs and false report to a police officer. Officers served a search warrant at her home, looking for her ex-boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, who is the only listed person of interest in Hailey's case.

Dunn said that her run-ins with the law puts "a little bit of a barrier" between her and law enforcement, impacting her relationship with those investigating her daughter's disappearance.

"I'm out of my mind; I'm living in a nightmare," Dunn said when asked if her circumstances contributed to her poor decisions. Young explained that the charges against Dunn have kept her from being able to return to her job as a hospital employee.

Critics have questioned why Dunn has not participated in local searches for Hailey. Dunn said she'd rather spread the word about Hailey's disappearance through fliers and communication than look for physical evidence.

"I'm just not going to look in the fields for my daughter," she said, explaining that she'd rather hold out hope that Hailey is alive. "I feel selfish hoping that she's alive and going to come home, because I worry about what (she is) going through."

In the second part of the interview, Dunn directly addressed her relationship with the only named suspect in the case. Shawn Adkins is Dunn's former live-in boyfriend and the last person to see Hailey before she disappeared.
"I still love Shawn. I can't help who I'm in love with," said Dunn. "Hopefully, I want all four of us to be back home again and be a family."

Dunn went on to say she understands why law enforcement who zero in on Shawn -- since he was the last person to see her. However, she says she wants to believe Shawn's side of the story.

When asked by Pelletz whether someone knows more information about Hailey's whereabouts, Dunn confidently and quickly answered.

"Yeah, somebody has got to," said Dunn. "Someone knows where she is."

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Post by truthbtold Thu May 05, 2011 9:27 pm

LOL Boston_Lady! I'm glad you watched it.

Good question about why the attorney can't help Billie and Clint speak with LE. My guess: Billie wants to continue her attempt at being considered a sympathetic victim. A family/victim's advocate acting on her behalf looks better than a lawyered-up POI. Plus, both she and Clint, imo, would love to regain some public sympathy and personal donations. Image is everything to Billie Jean Dunn. She's too narcissistic to realize the cat's out of the bag on the real Billie Jean; she thinks she can fool the public and an advocate into believing her lies.

Mark Klaas is a victim's advocate; bet he won't be raising his hand to defend Billie Jean again. Traffic 911 is, among other things, a victims advocacy organization. Bet they won't be offering up intermediary staff to Billie Jean Dunn. Only someone looking for a few minutes of exposure and without an established reputation would agree to being the intermediary between Billie Jean and LE if they know anything about the case, imo. If she really wants to cooperate, she should tell that to her lawyer and they should approach LE. Period. JMO....
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Post by truthbtold Thu May 05, 2011 9:42 pm

Thanks for posting the article, with Part 2 of the interview lisette!

Well, part 2 was just as cringe-worthy as part 1.

Billie says she still loves Shawn, she can't help who she's in love with, none of us can. I beg to differ. If someone threatened my life, threatened my family member's lives, lied to me about his alibi the day my daughter went missing, was suspected of causing my daughter's disappearance, cheated on me, was accused of possessing child pornography...and I still felt love for the person, pretty sure I'd realize that I was a messed up loser and a sorry excuse for a human being and seek intensive psychiatric help immediately.

Of course, she's complicit in all of these activities, so it's all by choice for Billie Jean...

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Post by gnreed Thu May 05, 2011 9:43 pm

Pathetic interview by Brittany P. I can only imagine the hugging before and after the interview.

John Young and Billie make a great pair. Both are liars. He stated she can't get her license to work at the hospital due to new charges. More BS. Billie worked as a nurse until being caught with a suspened or revoked license before all of this.

Same ole John Young. The man loves the camera. I am willing to bet he is contacting Nancy Grace for a live interview soon.

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Post by samgoodwin Thu May 05, 2011 10:12 pm

Part 2 was even worse. All of us "online people with no lives" should get a job or be looking for Hailey... even though Billie has no job or has never looked for Hailey.

So she still loves Shawn and she's hoping all 4 of them can be a family again. head bang
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Post by Boston_Lady Thu May 05, 2011 10:13 pm

"I'm just not going to look in the fields for my daughter," she said, explaining that she'd rather hold out hope that Hailey is alive. "I feel selfish hoping that she's alive and going to come home, because I worry about what (she is) going through."

Please tell me she didn't say "selfish" holding out hope that her daughter is alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF??? What parent of a missing child doesn't hope their child is alive??? So is she saying she would feel normal if Hailey were dead?

I can't stand this woman. It is all about her !!! Me me me me me. Same mantra, different day.

I agree gnreed about her lawyer. I was trying to figure out what he was looking at as he kept glancing sideways. Perhaps a mirror was located to his side view? I know he was looking at his notes. Trying to let us know that missing children can come home after many months and having examples.

The lawyer registers high on the creep factor for me. Suspect
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Post by Boston_Lady Thu May 05, 2011 10:14 pm

samgoodwin wrote:Part 2 was even worse. All of us "online people with no lives" should get a job or be looking for Hailey... even though Billie has no job or has never looked for Hailey.

So she still loves Shawn and she's hoping all 4 of them can be a family again. head bang


la la la Can you say sociopath?
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Post by truthbtold Thu May 05, 2011 10:30 pm

gnreed wrote:Pathetic interview by Brittany P. I can only imagine the hugging before and after the interview.

John Young and Billie make a great pair. Both are liars. He stated she can't get her license to work at the hospital due to new charges. More BS. Billie worked as a nurse until being caught with a suspened or revoked license before all of this.

Same ole John Young. The man loves the camera. I am willing to bet he is contacting Nancy Grace for a live interview soon.

This is the first time I've seen John Young speak. He is a wind-bag and reeks of insincerity; he's definitely looking for his 15 minutes, imo. I had some hope that maybe he might be a decent person, along with being the highly qualified lawyer he appears to be on paper, and that he might encourage Billie to do right by Hailey. After "meeting" him in today's interviews, those hopes are completely dashed.

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Post by Boston_Lady Thu May 05, 2011 10:35 pm

Ok, this takes the cake. John Young tweeted after the interview: (I am going to barf)

"Live interviews @ 5+6, tape for 10 on CBS and NBC aff. in Abi w/ Billie Dunn-mom of missing 13 yoa Hailey Dunn. I know I'm her lawyer, but this lady is really a strong kid. God Bless her, I hope her baby girl comes home to her."~John Young's tweets after the interviews (Twitter: @JohnYoungLaw).
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Post by truthbtold Thu May 05, 2011 10:42 pm

Boston_Lady wrote:Ok, this takes the cake. John Young tweeted after the interview: (I am going to barf)

"Live interviews @ 5+6, tape for 10 on CBS and NBC aff. in Abi w/ Billie Dunn-mom of missing 13 yoa Hailey Dunn. I know I'm her lawyer, but this lady is really a strong kid. God Bless her, I hope her baby girl comes home to her."~John Young's tweets after the interviews (Twitter: @JohnYoungLaw).


I agree Eeewww
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Post by raine1953 Fri May 06, 2011 1:49 am

truthbtold wrote:
gnreed wrote:Pathetic interview by Brittany P. I can only imagine the hugging before and after the interview.

John Young and Billie make a great pair. Both are liars. He stated she can't get her license to work at the hospital due to new charges. More BS. Billie worked as a nurse until being caught with a suspened or revoked license before all of this.

Same ole John Young. The man loves the camera. I am willing to bet he is contacting Nancy Grace for a live interview soon.

This is the first time I've seen John Young speak. He is a wind-bag and reeks of insincerity; he's definitely looking for his 15 minutes, imo. I had some hope that maybe he might be a decent person, along with being the highly qualified lawyer he appears to be on paper, and that he might encourage Billie to do right by Hailey. After "meeting" him in today's interviews, those hopes are completely dashed.


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Post by raine1953 Fri May 06, 2011 1:49 am

Boston_Lady wrote:Ok, this takes the cake. John Young tweeted after the interview: (I am going to barf)

"Live interviews @ 5+6, tape for 10 on CBS and NBC aff. in Abi w/ Billie Dunn-mom of missing 13 yoa Hailey Dunn. I know I'm her lawyer, but this lady is really a strong kid. God Bless her, I hope her baby girl comes home to her."~John Young's tweets after the interviews (Twitter: @JohnYoungLaw).
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Post by Wrapitup Fri May 06, 2011 3:25 am

In Part 1, I couldn't figure out just what was going on w/BD. She kept touching her hair, putting her fingers up to her eyes and sniffling. The hair-touching and sniffling continued, but the finger to eye movements stopped. Casey Anthony immediately entered my mind, except for the sniffling. I actually thought: Does she have allergies, a cold, is she trying to get us to believe she is crying, is she jonesing for her drug of choice? It was all so phony. There was not One sincere sniffle.

One thing I w/say about BD, she doesn't ever seem nervous to me in interviews. And, I also got the impression she felt very comfortable sitting right next to her "eye candy attorney". Could she have dressed any more inappropriately for television? B_L, you made me laugh out loud with your "Hello Boobs" remark!! ROFLMAO She is one of those chicks that gets by (or Thinks she does) on her sex appeal.

I will say that I personally do not blame her for not searching. Some parents can and some cannot. Of course, most parents in this type of scenario are Innocent. I think she won't search just in case she knows where Hailey is and if the searchers get too close, her mannerisms would probably change radically and would draw suspicion to her immediately. Also, I would love to see the new flyer she held up. (What, no close up, camera crew??)

As far as her "job", the reason she is not working is because she doesn't want to. Plain and simple. As long as she can live off other's donations, she w/sit on that "new" couch for as long as she can. And, I doubt anyone would hire her. I sure wouldn't! But, to bring up the fact that her nursing license has expired is complete b.s. Doesn't she or they Realize that we "bloggers who should go get a job" stay abreast of this case and all the details? We all know she was working as a secretary and Not a nurse.

Also, who was she talking about when she asked the attorney, "Should I say HIS name?" He backed out of that pretty quickly.

And, you know..doesn't everyone have an old RX for muscle relaxers that they put into an unmarked bottle? Sarcasm

They must think we are really stupid!!

As far as Billie being "in love w/Shawn and not being able to help herself", she IMO is NOT in love with him. She is ADDICTED to him. He is like heroin or crack. She knows he isn't good for her or her family, but she just can't quit. Big difference! And, it wouldn't take much for her to look at her lawyer twice, if she hasn't already. She can still be addicted to Shawn.

She wants Hailey home so the four of them can be a happy family again. Barf Barf This girl is Delusional!

Worst interview I've ever seen. Her lawyer is a sleez ball, she is a huge liar and together, they aren't fooling anyone!

Note to Billie: The next time you go on live television, wear a different shirt. How about something professional that makes you look credible? pick in

As far as the lawyer wanting to get Billie on NG:
1) I doubt Billie wants that as she has been there, done that. And,
2) NG will rip the attorney a new one.

I am surprised they aren't doing the national media rounds. Maybe CBS Early Show will invite them to New York where that one gal that always interviews George and Cindy will have them on. She never asks the hard questions.

You know who I would like to see interview Billie and her lawyer? Judge Judy!!
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One more thing. What was this b.s. about Billie having nothing to do with porn? A memory stick with porn on it was found in HER home in HER dresser drawer. :FBI:


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Post by mommyof3kids Fri May 06, 2011 1:19 pm


In the second part of the interview, Dunn directly addressed her relationship with the only named suspect in the case. Shawn Adkins is Dunn's former live-in boyfriend and the last person to see Hailey before she disappeared.
"I still love Shawn. I can't help who I'm in love with," said Dunn. "Hopefully, I want all four of us to be back home again and be a family."

I have no words, other then la la la drunk WTF :jaw dropping: Eeewww affraid Barf Barf Barf

Where is sweet Hailey? AND NO Billie, if/when she is found, you and Shawn are the LAST people she will EVER be returned too! over reaction
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Post by truthbtold Sat May 07, 2011 8:34 pm

I guess this is the new flier Billie referred to in her tv interviews on Thursday:
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I see there is a number added to call in anonymous tips; I think that was the major change she referred to. No change in the reward fund. I also see that the description of what she was wearing changed again. We've gone from tennis shoes to flip flops, red hoop earrings to a diamond stud, and now blue sweat pants with a green stripe to just blue sweat pants.

If someone out there knows something and they are afraid to contact LE, I hope they see the flier and call the anonymous tip line. First and foremost, because I want Hailey found so badly... Secondly, because I love the idea of Billie distributing a flyer that ultimately leads to officially solving the answer of "who dunnit?"
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Post by Wrapitup Sat May 07, 2011 8:49 pm

I couldn't agree more, TBT.

One thing I did NOT like about that flier was this:

"We will never give up hope that Hailey will be returned safely to her family."


Are you kidding me? Back to Billie and Shawn and the beastiality and porn? I think not!

Back to Clint and Naomi and all the b.s. surrounding Naomi's mother? Oh, Hail No!!
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Post by truthbtold Sat May 07, 2011 9:07 pm

Wrapitup wrote:I couldn't agree more, TBT.

One thing I did NOT like about that flier was this:

"We will never give up hope that Hailey will be returned safely to her family."


Are you kidding me? Back to Billie and Shawn and the beastiality and porn? I think not!

Back to Clint and Naomi and all the b.s. surrounding Naomi's mother? Oh, Hail No!!

Exactly! Like mommyof3kids said yesterday as well, ain't no way Hailey is going back to Billie's house of horrors. I highly doubt Clint would stand a chance of getting her either; I'd be surprised if he isn't already being monitored by CPS. It's really too bad for Clint. He started off strong and motivated back in December; he could have used this tragedy as a motivator to clean up his act, if not for himself, for his new family and for Hailey's desired return. He blew it, imo... On the slim chance that Hailey is found alive, I'm sure there are many people who would love to give her a real home... JMO...
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Post by mommyof3kids Sat May 07, 2011 9:09 pm

Exactly what I think Wrap! I agree

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Post by Wrapitup Sun May 08, 2011 5:15 pm

Just wondering how Billie Dunn is spending Mother's Day. Is she with David, I hope??

Here are some pics I've never seen before.

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Post by charminglane Mon May 09, 2011 5:03 pm

I hope to shout she did NOT spend Mother's Day with David.
He needs that mother like a hole in the head.

I am back!!!!
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Post by truthbtold Mon May 09, 2011 6:17 pm

charminglane wrote:I hope to shout she did NOT spend Mother's Day with David.
He needs that mother like a hole in the head.

I am back!!!!

:cheering: Glad you're feeling better Charm; wasn't the same without you!

P.S. I agree, I really don't think Billie should be around children at this point, period, though I do hope David is holding up okay now that his mother and her boyfriend have turned his life upside down. Where's Hailey!?
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Post by Boston_Lady Mon May 09, 2011 6:51 pm

Well, there was more facebook drama and I was there to witness. It seems Clint was pissed after Billie's appearance on the interview. And he posted this on the HDUD - Hailey Dunn Updates and Discussion - FB page. (the page should be changed to Billie Dunn zombie group) crazy3 But I digress...

The Billie Dunn zombie followers were in a tizzy that he posted that and immediately said that wasn't Clint. Clint would never do that to Billie Jean. What he posted was (paraphrasing) that she is a liar and he is sick to death of all her damn lies. He would have her back if she would just stop lying. (some thought he meant he would take her back if she stopped lying but he meant he would support her, "got your back" kind of statement) And what was she lying about? David. Clint was pissed because Billie Jean said since she wasn't searching for Hailey (she's not looking in the woods) and she couldn't work (the mean people took her license away even though she hadn't had her license since 2008 AND she was working as a secretary when Hailey went missing) she was spending that time with David. Getting to know him, going/taking him to Tae Kwan Do (for a minute ..her exact words)

Clint fired back that she was never at Tae Kwan Do and that he was the one who took David, signed him up for events and paid for it. And Clint added that every time Billie Jean lies, he is going to be there to point it out.

The BJD Zombies starting bemoaning that Billie was paying (with what?) and then said it was Roger Ostrander who paid... he is the brother that David is staying with. It got ugly.

So Pam - one of the administrators CALLED Billie Jean and Billie Jean admitted that it was Clint who updated the page and it was just a misunderstanding. Billie asked that the entire thread be removed. (Shocker I know) And like good little zombies, they did Billie's bidding.

So all along, this HDUD FB page has been feeding everything to Billie Jean. She doesn't need the internet with them. And they zombies have been posting all these whacked out theories of who took Hailey and how Billie & Shawn were innocent. They were and actually are still trying to point the finger at Naomi and her mother Tricia. And gee, I wonder who is coming up with these theories? Could it be Billie? She is the one who, right off the bat, tried to blame Clint/Naomi. This is why I think she had Shawn say that Hailey was heading to Clint's first before she went to Maribeth's. And why Billie wanted Clint to call LE to report Hailey missing. And why the "red" hoop earring was used as Hailey was seen wearing them when she left.. and they showed up at Naomi's & Clint's. (this was later proven that the earrings were found BEFORE Hailey left)

Sorry that was such a long rant. I do hope that LE/FBI/Texas Rangers are watching FB for any clues. And I hope the women who run HDUD FB page realize they are helping the only named POI and actually the only named Suspect in this case. Because what Billie knows is being shared with Shawn.

Could the zombies be found to helping after the fact? Or obstructing justice? I don't know. I just know I would not want to be helping anyone involved in this kind of a case. It's too dangerous. They really don't know if Billie Jean killed her daughter and they don't know if Shawn sexually molested/raped/killed Hailey. But they do know that Child Porn was found on electronics of Shawn's and they do know that Billie Jean lied to police, was caught with dangerous drugs without a prescription and obstruction. :FBI:

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Post by Wrapitup Mon May 09, 2011 8:02 pm

Wow!! Who is/was the board admin? It had to be a "friend"?

Thanks, B_L, for the FB update! Holy Moley! These zombies need to go back to wherever they came from. Maybe they can financially support Billie.

And, I guess I did not think things through when I said I hope that Billie is with David. I guess being a mother makes me think that David still loves her and might have wanted to give her something for Mother's Day. Sorry! ❤
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Post by truthbtold Mon May 09, 2011 8:27 pm

Wrapitup wrote:Wow!! Who is/was the board admin? It had to be a "friend"?

Thanks, B_L, for the FB update! Holy Moley! These zombies need to go back to wherever they came from. Maybe they can financially support Billie.

And, I guess I did not think things through when I said I hope that Billie is with David. I guess being a mother makes me think that David still loves her and might have wanted to give her something for Mother's Day. Sorry! ❤

That FB page sounds surreal, to put it kindly.

Wrap, I am actually conflicted about whether it would be good or bad for Billie to have any access to David. Maybe it should be up to David if he wants to see her? If he does, it should be supervised visits only and at a neutral site (not Billie's home) and she should have no opportunity to converse with him privately, imo..

P.s. I don't trust Billie not to try to "influence" David's recollection of events that went down under Billie's roof. I believe she would stoop that low, making him choose between helping Hailey or protecting Billie...
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Post by Wrapitup Mon May 09, 2011 8:46 pm

I agree
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Post by Boston_Lady Tue May 10, 2011 12:55 am

I worked late tonite so I am still up and awake. Trying to wind down but I went and looked at the HDUD FB page and now I'm annoyed. What is really wrong with them? I know that there are people who become "groupies" of famous cases and believe the person incarcerated is innocent. They write to them etc. But this seems different. Or maybe I'm not seeing clearly.

They now are floating out that since the dogs followed Hailey's scent to Clint's, that it must mean that Clint is lying and Hailey was there on the 27th. Therefore if that is the case, this proves Shawn was telling the truth. umno How can they not see that Hailey went over to her dad's every day to see him. That the scent would be there.

They would rather believe Shawn is innocent with the Child Porn, death threats to Hailey, Billie and Clint; the slasher videos, the masks, the horror videos he made and on and on.

Supposedly a private investigating firm is working this case. This is according to a Billie supporter. Anyone think this might be coming from the slick attorney's office?

Does anyone think that LE will ever arrest someone for Hailey's disappearance? We are into the 5th month. Feels much too long. As Shawn indicated in the first interviews with LE, he said to find Hailey they should look to both Billie & Shawn. But neither will admit/tell LE anything to help them find her.

Can we expect LE can make a case without a body?

It's very discouraging. 🇳🇴
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Post by raine1953 Tue May 10, 2011 1:34 am

Personally, I don't believe a word on those FB pages.
I think that it's very possible that Hailey will not be found. I'm beginning to wonder if LE will ever have enough evidence to make an arrest in the disappearance of Hailey. I'm also beginning to wonder about the child porn, etc., that was supposedly found on all the computers, memory sticks, etc. What do we really know? I'm beginning to wonder. Maybe all we know is that Hailey is missing. How I wish another agency would take over for whatever LE is in charge now.
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Post by laga Tue May 10, 2011 9:25 am

raine1953 wrote:Personally, I don't believe a word on those FB pages.
I think that it's very possible that Hailey will not be found. I'm beginning to wonder if LE will ever have enough evidence to make an arrest in the disappearance of Hailey. I'm also beginning to wonder about the child porn, etc., that was supposedly found on all the computers, memory sticks, etc. What do we really know? I'm beginning to wonder. Maybe all we know is that Hailey is missing. How I wish another agency would take over for whatever LE is in charge now.

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Now I've seen it all. Billie Jean Dunn and her slime bag attorney, John Young are threatening Peter Hyatt with a law suit. over reaction

Is he from Colorado? No ! Is he a body language expert? No! This just makes Billie Jean & her attorney look like dumb azzes. They can't even get his basic information correct and they may sue??

They have just given Peter Hyatt's theory credibility by calling attention to it. And, if people didn't read his analysis before, they will now! cool

From Big Country.

Billie Dunn May Sue 'Body Language Expert'

The lawyer for Hailey Dunn's mother says his client may sue a so-called body language expert in Colorado for slander and libel.

The 13-year-old girl was last seen at her Colorado City home last December.

Peter Hyatt, who hosts an internet radio show, said this week: "I believe Billie Jean Dunn caught her daughter, Hailey, in a sexual act with Shawn Adkins and tempers exploded resulting in injury and eventual death to Hailey."

Adkins is Billie Dunn's former live-in boyfriend and a suspect in the case.

"He's absolutely horrible at what he does and he's no good at his job, because everything he's ever said has been a lie," Dunn said.

Dunn's lawyer, John Young, called Hyatt's words outlandish.

"(He said things) that only a fool would say, but certainly things that may, if I have my way, land this fellow in a court in Mitchell County, Texas," Young said.

A decision on whether or not to take Hyatt to court has not yet been made.

There have been few clues as to what happened to Hailey, and law enforcement has remained tight-lipped about the case.

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Post by Wrapitup Tue May 10, 2011 8:07 pm

Does that mean that anyone, any blog, can be sued? Because if that's the case, I better duct and run
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Notice the language they use "may sue". Seriously? Why even bother printing this? This is the same threat that Patricia Trichell made to the FB groups.

I think this is backfiring in their faces. Doesn't this fall under free speech? All Peter gave his theory/opinion. He didnt' state it as fact. And, he's not the only one who stated the same scenario. Hailey's grandmother, Connie Jones, said that Shawn raped Hailey, murdered her and then cut up her body and disposed of her. (I don't even like typing this. Sick) But are they going to sue her too?

And what about other blogs and comments on articles in newspapers?

Peter Hyatt's blog states as a disclaimer:

All parties are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. All opinions expressed here are personal opinions and represent only the author of these opinions and not any business, government agency, or individual person other than the author.

I think he is covered. And, what the stupid asses (Billie's favorite description of Peter) don't realize is that Peter works with lawyers. He does pro bono work in helping them with statement analysis. So I am pretty sure he can get someone to represent him should it ever really (and I highly doubt it will) come down to a civil suit.

And does Billie Dunn realize that she has to prove that what he said is not true? For that she would need Hailey to be in court to testify.

Another thing, this would allow Peter's attorney to ask Billie Jean questions and she would have to answer. She couldn't take the fifth. Is she ready to tell the truth? And anything she says can be used against her in a criminal trial.

I think she is the loser in this all the way around.
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Billie Dunn Threatens Lawsuit Body Language Expert From Colorado


This is the article that has prompted the reaction from Billie Jean and her creepy attorney.



Tuesday, May 03, 2011
My Hailey Dunn Death Theory

by Peter Hyatt

I have asked others, "How did Hailey die?" and have received many intelligent, well thought out answers.

Many people initially felt that Shawn Adkins killed her and Billie Dunn covered for him but as time went on, more people felt that Billie Dunn was far more involved than in just the cover up.

To date, I have withheld my opinion on how she died, choosing, instead, to continue analysis of statements, as well as listening to the theories of others. Given the drugs, violence, child pornography, and neglect issues that have surrounded this case, I have a theory on what I believe happened to Hailey Dunn. It is only a theory. It will change if information comes out that causes the change, as I remain flexible.


On December 28th, 2010, Hailey Dunn, 13, was reported missing and hasn't been seen since.

Her mother appeared on The Nancy Grace Show in early January.

Statement Analysis has shown:

1. That Hailey Dunn is deceased.
2. That both mother, Billie Jean Dunn, and mother's boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, are involved in her death.

This we saw (1) by the mother's references to Hailey in the past tense; something an innocent mother of a missing child is unable to do. We then saw (2) deception by both mother and boyfriend, with mother doing most of the talking, indicating most of the deception.

Can we know, however, from analysis, how she died? What can Statement Analysis indicate about what may have happened to her prior to having been reported missing?

We can know that someone is deceptive, and often surmise why deception is necessary. Here, we have indicators of sensitivity that, when coupled with evidence, can suggest what may have happened to Hailey. When someone is deceptive, someone needs to be deceptive. This need is highlighted by investigators.

This entry is what I believe happened to Hailey Dunn, 13, of Colorado City, Texas.

My theory is based mostly upon language (the linguistic indicators) and upon the evidence that has come to light through the release of police affidavits, failed polygraphs, and general behavioral analysis of the two Persons of Interest.

In Billie Dunn's press conference, she indicated sensitivity about December 26 and December 28th. In her Nancy Grace interview, we saw that she withheld information about the 27th, which we later learned was her drug purchase. We saw that she was, specifically, deceptive about her "hobby"

On Christmas, Hailey was with her father, Clint Dunn, who remains married to Hailey's mother, although he lives with a girlfriend of whom he has a child with. She appeared to have some closeness with aunts and her paternal grandmother, Connie. Initially, Billie Dunn attempted to implicate Clint, and then later made it a runaway case, and later still a stranger abduction. Once, she portrayed a "mystery" man (a relative of Clint's) as the guilty party.

On December 26th, Billie Dunn made Christmas dinner for herself, her boyfriend, Shawn, Hailey, and her 16 year old son from a previous relationship, David.

Statement Analysis of her description of the day shows acute tension in the home. The mother went overboard to describe it as 'normal' which is an indication that it was anything but a peaceful 'normal' day.

That night, David left at around 9PM, even though his mother had earlier reported that he left at dinner hour. He said that Hailey was playing a video game at 9PM and judging by her skill level, would likely be at it, if uninterrupted, until midnight. (Statement Analysis showed that at 9PM, Billie was deliberately withholding information about this time frame)

There was, however, a likely interruption to her video game playing and it happened within an hour or less.

10PM Linguistic indicator.

In domestic homicides, the time of death is often located in the statement at the point where the alleged perp says 'good bye' or 'good night' to the victim. Why is this?

Greetings are important in Statement Analysis.

When a subject writes, "I woke up and said 'good morning' to my husband..." it is unusually indicative of a poor relationship. Why?

Most everyone greets their spouse in the morning, but it is when a spouse feels that it is important enough to add to a statement means it is sensitive. It is often used when a subject wishes to persuade rather than report, and wants the interviewer to believe that they have a good relationship. People in good relationships don't feel the need to persuade. Statement Analysis takes note of both greetings and departures.

On one homicide investigation, I instructed them to listen carefully to the alleged suspect to see if he gives a time of departure from the victim. He said, "so, at 9 o'clock, I said 'see ya, babe' and left."
I told them that this likely the time of death, as to the suspect, it is important enough for him to tell investigators what he said to her. It may appear unimportant to us, but to the guilty, the time of departing is critical.

Statement Analysis: If the information is unnecessary, it is to be deemed 'doubly important' in analysis.

Billie Jean said that she said "good night" to Hailey around 10PM. This is likely the general time that she died (this is an estimate; however the specific time, "10PM" is vital, as it entered into the subject's language. If it is not an exact time of death, it will likely be close, and could be, perhaps, the time when trouble began. What started as a tense, tough day, grew much worse, beginning, perhaps, at 10PM, or about 1 hour after David left.

I believe Billie Jean Dunn caught her daughter, Hailey, in a sexual act with Shawn Adkins and tempers exploded resulting in injury and eventual death to Hailey.

Note the wording: that she caught "Hailey" in a sexual act with Shawn, not the other way around: this would be where Billie blames Hailey, more than Shawn.

We now take a parenthetical view of this scenario.

1. February 2010 Billie Dunn reported to police that Shawn had threatened her life, whereas police spoke to him and he affirmed threatening Billie but added that he threatened Hailey, as well.

He threatened Hailey, but not David. This is significant that he did not target David, though I do not know why. He had threatened Clint, a self-trained martial artist, but not the younger David, who was only 15 at the time.

2. How Shawn Adkins described and interacted Hailey:

a. Sexual Description

"Promiscuous", and "boy crazy" were two terms he used.

By calling her "promiscuous", he may sound mature, but when he says "boy crazy", was he expressing jealousy? It may be as he later told the press how he loved her, using terminology more suited for boyfriend/girlfriend than it did for what was more in the role of step father/step daughter.

Shawn Adkins, by calling Hailey "promiscuous" is blaming her for their sexual activity.

We also know that Shawn Adkins was sexually aroused by child pornography and S&M videos, and was fascinated by murders.

b. Immaturity.

Pedophiles are stunted in their maturity and often say things that seem 'sensible' to them, but shocking to the public; such as 'the child was asking for it' or 'did you see the way she walked?' or 'she was deliberately sitting on my lap' (these are sentences adult males have said about children, under the age of 10; some have even described toddlers as 'flirtatious')

Billie Dunn described him as "MHMR" or "mental health, mental retardation" which sounded more like a term she had heard at work that would be used to attempt to get 'disability' of one form or another for him, but highlights that she sees him as inferior to herself and as immature.

Adkins' immaturity is seen in his wearing, as a grown man, of masks to scare people. As previous analysis showed, he is a fearful individual who used mask wearing to scare others as a way to cover for his own fears and insecurity. It is not surprising that Billie Jean would be attracted to an immature man (he is about 8 years younger than she is, although this is also part of her self image issues) whom she can dominate, manipulate and control.

His immaturity was also seen in his description of his relationship with Hailey, describing "farting" around her, (the inclusion of bodily functions is a red flag for sexual abuse) which he thought would be amusing to the audience and show how 'close' they were, when actually it concerned many and highlighted his immaturity more than anything else.

c. His involvement with child pornography was a threat (and is) to the general public at large, but it is likely something he used to groom his victim with. Subtle exposure to pornography would desensitize Hailey into believing this material was 'normal' and not so shocking.

Hailey was likely given drugs by both Shawn Adkins and Billie Jean Dunn. He attempted to denigrate her to police after initially calling her a "good girl" by saying she was promiscuous and maybe into drugs.

Since Adkins was attracted to children, and he had moved in when Hailey was 11, it is likely that the pornography, alcohol, and drugs were shared with her, a little at a time, to desensitize her as she got older.

Drug User As a drug user, his soul would go 'cold' and depersonalized and he would view others in the same way, including taking Billie's cocaine that she bought for re-sale, and snorting it away. There is an inherent selfishness, or narcissism found in drug abusers, and lies are told to insulate the abuser from all responsibility. Drug abusers do some of the most inhumane things to those around them. Recall the mother who sold young Shaniya Davis (5) to her boyfriend, who was video taped carrying the young child through a hotel hallway, to rape her and then kill her for silence. Where this form of dehumanizing behavior exists, there is often drug use. The video of little Shaniya being carried to the elevator is one of the most blood chilling videos I've ever seen.

3. Billie Jean and Hailey

Billie Jean was acutely aware of her aging and likely had some form of cosmetic enhancement. She was once a stripper which meant that she knew that her appearance could be translated into money. Like all deceptive people, her image is of vital importance to her.

She likely viewed Hailey as a growing threat and competitor, rather than a daughter and caught "Hailey" having sex with Shawn, not that she caught "Shawn"; indicating a blaming of the female child instead of the male adult.

Billie Jean was no mother to her children. Her own immaturity was seen when she gave a 'home made tattoo' to her then 14 year old son, even while most 13 year old girls have more sense than that. When she described herself as a "great" mother, it was an indicator of just how sensitive this point is to her:

She knew Adkins was dangerous; so much so that she told the police, yet moved him in anyway. When a mother is suspected in the killing of her child, police look for behavioral indicators of a mother putting her own needs before the child. By having him move in shortly after the police were contacted, she was guilty of "Failure to Protect" in the ultimate manner. Drugs had ruined their lives in many ways, but in no way more than the neglect issues that accompany drug abuse.

She knew of Adkins' love of blood lust, the sickening videos that aroused him, and she even acted out in one of his home made pornographic movies, yet, the only time we saw her emotions rise is when she was asked about Adkins cheating on her: a most sensitive point to an aging stripper who no longer looks like she did 10 years prior.

She likely saw (or may have even allowed?) what went on between Adkins and her daughter. "everyone got everything they asked for for Christmas"...what was it Shawn wanted, and what was it he got?

a. birth control.

Nancy Grace was surprised that Billie Jean let the comment about birth control and such a young child go unchecked wondering (out loud) why a mother wouldn't immediately defend her child. Billie Dunn, deceptive, only acknowledged talking about birth control to Hailey.

b. In a skillful interview, the hosts of "Bring Them Home Now" did what the local media did not do: ask open-ended questions to Billie Dunn, and then allowed her to speak. In describing Hailey, she used the word "hormonal" and then said that Hailey would rather "kick" a boy than "kiss" one.

If your daughter had no interest in boys and was still at the "yuck!" or "cooties" stage (I dated myself), you wouldn't need to call her "hormonal" nor have reason to teach her or put her on birth control. This was a deceptive answer on Billie Dunn's part, and another indication that sexuality played a major role in this household and subsequently, in her death.

4. Billie Jean and appearance

She is a 33 year old woman acting like a sexually inappropriate teen, including her appearance (breast enhancement, clothing, stripping, burning tattoo, incredibly focused upon how people view her. She was reported to have been angered at the picture (below)


We know that drugs and immoral lifestyles in general do not age a man or a woman well. Deceptive people are very image conscious, as we saw with the constant self grooming of Casey Anthony (although the comments of her father certainly raise questions), or Scott Peterson, or Ted Bundy, or other sociopathic deceptive killers; they wish others to view them in only the highest ways. Drew Peterson still thinks women guards are attempting to flirt with him as he is transported from one cell to another. Image is acutely important to deceptive people. Why?

Because they see others as beneath them. They are deceptive (avoiding outright lies) and expect to get away with it as they hold others in contempt. This is why they often self-groom, or show other aspects of a highly superficial and shallow personality.

In Hailey's life, there was a sexualized mother, and there was a sexually deviant step-father figure, who was (and is) attracted to pre-pubescent children. As Hailey was being groomed for abuse by Adkins, he would have the support of her mother, perhaps, and could even say "look at this, Hailey! Even mom likes to pose!"

In both mother and her boyfriend, there was drugs. Drugs dehumanize its victims. There was alcohol, mixing with drugs.

In Hailey's life there was violence, viewed as enjoyment. All the blood-lust, killing movies, video and literature were present in her life. They would be used to groom her into compliance and where she resisted, drugs could be used to 'bring her along' in his quest for sexual activity with her, perhaps before she got too old.

On December 26th, 2010, at about 10PM, it may be that Billie Dunn walked in on Shawn Adkins and Hailey Dunn involved in some form of sexual activity. Please note that any sexual contact is statutory rape, whether Hailey seemed 'consensual' or not.

It may be that Billie exploded in anger, with Hailey, strong willed, even in spite of the influence of drugs or alcohol and threatened to tell authorities and Billie struck out at her.

In what may have been an unintentional assault, Hailey was either mortally wounded, or wounded so badly that Billie Dunn had Shawn help put away this scene; perhaps inflicting the final blow, or by causing her to breathe her last through ingestion of narcotics.

In whatever happened, analysis shows that they are both involved and have enough on each other to keep silent. This is going to make the investigators job difficult.

If Shawn attempted to tell police, Billie would tell them that he was a rapist and reveal all the child pornography.

If Billie attempted to tell police, Shawn would tell police that Billie physically assaulted Hailey, or that Billie allowed the sexual contact.

Several times, Billie Dunn told us that Shawn went to his job at 6AM, only to leave at 6:10AM, first, due to a conflict, and then to quit, and lastly, to turn in his things. The inconsistencies, she said, came from Shawn.

But what was consistent about her report?

The coveralls.

She could have said, "to drop off his stuff" or "clean out his locker" and nothing more, but she added, on several statements, about his "coveralls" and that they would be "washed" by the company.

Drug fueled sexual violence...even the maternal grandmother recognized the potential for this on The Nancy Grace Show when her instincts feared that Adkins had raped and killed Hailey under the threat of disclosure.

If while Hailey was being cleaned up or made ready for disposal (think Shawn describing killing of deer and his fascination with death, cruelty, and dismemberment) he wore his coveralls, it would make sense that this was in Billie Jean's thinking while giving the statement, therefore, it would leak out while she is speaking.

This is called "leakage", or, the unintentional offering of information not sought.

"So I drove home in my car." Here, we know the subject drove home, but we also are given unnecessary information: "in his car" is not necessary, therefore, doubly important (when he gave his statement, he was thinking about the stolen item he has hidden in his car but didn't realize that he was calling attention to his vehicle so that investigators would then search it).

Washing often enters statements where sexual abuse has taken place *(so does, coverings, blankets, towels, and doors opening/closing and lights turning on and off). In a sexual homicide, a guilty subject will often mention washing of hands, showering, bathing, laundry, etc as it is part of their thinking in relation to sexual assaults or abuse. In sexual homicides, the guilty will often include self washing (hands, showering) or a cleaning of the bedsheets. It is something we all do, but it does not enter statements often, so when it does, we often find a connection to sexual abuse.

I find a likely scenario that Hailey died in such a manner as to stitch both Shawn Adkins and Billie Dunn together in a way in which neither can get out blaming the other entirely.

This theory also holds up with post-crime behavior.

Q. Why would Billie Dunn host a New Year's Eve party?
A. She would use alcohol to soothe her nerves and a get-to-gether as a desperate attempt to restore normal life

Q. Why didn't she search?
A. She feared leading others to the body as she would have been watched carefully.

Q. Why didn't police name her as a suspect?
A. Because she was of more use without an attorney and they did not want her to stop talking?

Q. Why, then, did they name Adkins as a suspect?
A. In an attempt to split them; cause him to do what he had done before: blame her and talk.

When asked who they should be looking at, Adkins taunted them with "both of us" meaning himself and Billie Dunn. I think this was an attempt to gauge Billie Dunn's reaction: Would she turn away from him or stick closely to him.

She chose to stick with him, even to the point of lying to law enforcement.

Q. Why did Billie Dunn go to work the next day?
A. To attempt to maintain a normalcy for her alibi. This can be heard in her language, especially if you highlight the words "so, since, because" as she explains why she left her phone, for instance. She may have thought it sounded good, but it sounds like a juvenile and silly plan.

Q. Why did she and Shawn buy drugs on the 27th?
A. To quiet their blistering nerves for what task lay ahead of them: disposing/hiding the body. I believe that this was an extreme action and she went as far as to say they emptied both accounts of cash, spending their last dollars on drugs as they would need them to do to Hailey what was necessary in order for her body to not be found. The 'courage' would come from drugs.

Q. Who invented the plan to say she left to go to Marybeth's for a sleepover?
A. Linguistically, it appears to be Billie's and not Shawn's. When she goes into the story, she owns it until asked about a discrepancy, and only then does she say that Shawn said so.

Q. Is Billie Dunn a victim of domestic violence, controlled by Shawn, and only covering for him?
A. No. There is likely violence, but she is clearly the leader of the two; the more dominant and confident. Had she only covered for him in fear, when police were involved, she was safe and could have had him arrested on the spot. Had she had no guilt, she would have been able to put Hailey first, but instead has tossed aside her son, and even lied to police for Shawn.

Q. Why has there been no arrests for child pornography?
A. I don't know, but can speculate:

Computer post mortem forensics can take up to 6 months for some states.
3 counties are involved with jurisdiction and may have some debates.
It may have been turned over to the federal prosecutors which may warrant a 'do-over' mentality of fact gather.

It should not be misinterpreted as failure.

Q. Do police have other evidence?
A. They may, but have not said so.

They may have blood evidence, as well as found evidence in the vehicle he drove. They certainly have circumstantial evidence and have spoken to people who have used drugs with both Persons of Interest and have gotten valuable information about what went on during drug parties.

Q. Did Billie Dunn fail her polygraph because she was informed of Shawn's failed test?
A. No. She failed because she was deceptive. Even emotional discomfort about Shawn would have to take a back seat to emotional discomfort that her daughter had been missing all this time.

She failed about:

What happened to Hailey
Where Hailey could be found.

Those who conducted the interviews did not need the polygraph to tell them anything; they knew from the interview. It was confirmed, first by Adkins' balking at the test, and then later not showing, and still when Billie Dunn and Adkins showed up under the influence: they both had a need to deceive police about the disappearance of Hailey Dunn. But the polygraph did confirm what police already knew:

That not only did Billie Dunn know exactly what happened to Hailey, but that she has drained resources and emotions of kind hearted people and could have, in a moment's notice, put an end to the search. For her, every day Hailey is not found "is a good day."

Q. Was she not allowed to search?
A. No. There are no laws prohibiting anyone from searching.

Q. Wasn't this a run away case in the beginning?
A. No, they knew from the first interview that she and Shawn had something to hide.

Q. Do you think there will be arrests?
A. Yes. Those involved are dedicated professionals on their own time table and will do what is right in justice for Hailey.

Q. What do the cell phone pings mean to this case?
A. The cell phone pings will be critical circumstantial evidence that may be presented to a Grand Jury in a homicide case. The cell phone records likely show:

--Shawn Adkins was not where he said he was, but had returned home and was hiding the body (or parts of the body) while Billie stayed at work;

--contact linking Billie Dunn (at work) and Adkins (on cell) which may be presented as "conspiracy" charges for murder are presented.

Q. Why hasn't main stream media reported that they are "the only two" Persons of Interest?
A. I don't know, but perhaps they do not wish to have an adversarial relationship with Billie, especially, who in the beginning, was able to pick and choose who she would talk to. They also may have been jealous that "Bring Them Home Now" was able to get information when they, main stream media, could not. MSM has not shown investigative journalism in this case.

Q. Will Hailey ever be found?
A. I believe so.

Sometimes it takes longer to locate remains, even years, than we all would like, but I think her remains will be found eventually. The hot weather and wild life are taking their toll upon her remains but eventually she will be laid to rest in the dignity she deserves.

Q. Why does the family fight on the social networking sites?
A. There are lots of issues in any family but especially those that involved in drugs are particularly sensitive and where there is wide spread drug use we often find many mental health issues in crisis. Once the element of money was introduced, factions began. This started with donations and soon the fighting began, even to the claim that "hope" for Hailey came to be synonymous with Hailey being "alive"; and, subsequently, in need of money. Envy over attention is a powerful motivator as well as the love of drama. One such drama claimed that Hailey was alive and watching the internet fighting; refusing to come home until they stopped. In short order, this case had seen merchandising, deception, as well as drugs, arrests, and dirty laundry being aired for the world to see. The feeling of being obscure is unpleasant for anyone, but where there is heightened attention, its drawing power can cause some to attack others, wanting to be the "one" whom others seek out for information. The desire to be "important" seemed to cause much conflict for those in, or near the family.

Q. What is next in the investigation?
A. Only police can answer this question, but my guess is (and has been) that we will hear what will feel like sudden news about arrest warrants regarding the child pornography possession.

Q. If Shawn Adkins is arrested for child pornography, will he give up Hailey's remains?
A. I believe so; as it is my hope.

If his family can reach him, he will likely give up what happened to Hailey and where her remains can be located, in exchange for a shorter prison sentence. Adkins is a fearful man, terribly immature, and will need protection in prison, in spite of his size. My guess is that his family has tried to get the information from him, but he chooses Billie's advice to stick it out, over their advice to save his life with a plea bargain.

Ultimately, when arrested for child pornography, one is going to turn on the other. It is the way of addicts. They put their need for the next high above all others' needs in life. They are inherently selfish and can be counted upon to have a "me first" attitude, even when making a deal.

Many have noticed how narcissistic Billie Jean has been in her statements, focused upon herself, even to the point of having to be pushed into making a public address "to" Hailey. She has talked about her bills, her needs, seeing Shawn, answering questions for him, her reputation, rumors, and so on; for her, it is all about herself and has never been about Hailey.

Lost in it all was the one who should have been the focus: Hailey.

Statement Analysis only showed what the police had already known, first from their interviews, and then from the polygraph, and later by behavioral analysis.

Shawn Adkins and Billie Dunn continue to remain together, even though he had cheated on her, and she had sent sexually explicit messages to a married man. Recently seen buying new cell phones and staying at a Super 8 type motel, the local eyes remain on them and they remain together. They have a powerful bond that has stitched them together, but will eventually tear because of what it is made of.

It consists of guilt.

The scenario above is one that can explain the low affect and the lack of grieving by the mother. She had manipulated many in the public, initially, but not law enforcement, and as time passed, she continued to speak to media and it was that each statement cost her more and more supporters to the point now where it is difficult to find any reasonably thinking person who defends her.

Adkins appears less talented in deception and presentation with hardly any supporting him in the beginning, though there will always be 'groupies' who will offer to meet with him, just like those who send love letters to Amanda Knox or Casey Anthony, or those who send marriage proposals to Charles Manson, in prison.

My theory is this:


Hailey Dunn died in a drug fueled sexual homicide, where both Shawn Adkins and Billie Jean Dunn are responsible for her death, and for the hiding of her remains.

This is only a theory and an opinion and we must await the legal outcome of the case, judged by a court of law as the Persons of Interest are afforded judicial status of innocence until proven guilty.

To date, they remain the only two Persons of Interest, and no one has been charged in the criminal investigation.

I believe justice for Hailey Dunn is coming.



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Post by truthbtold Tue May 10, 2011 8:54 pm

Innocent people with missing children aren't worried about blaming and suing people; they'd be cooperating and doing everything possible (like taking another LDT) to clear themselves so the focus could move elsewhere. Not Billie. It's LE's faults, it's Nancy Grace's fault, it's the public with their idiot opinions fault, it's stupid azz Peter Hyatt's fault, it's the polygrapher's fault, it's Hailey's fault, it's Clint's brother's fault, it's Clint and Naomi's fault, it's MaryBeth's fault. It's ridiculous, imo, that this woman has one supporter. If she didn't cause or willingly cover-up the disappearance of Hailey, why would she lie and point so many fingers? What's worse than causing your own child's disappearance? Nothing. There is no reason to lie about anything when your child's life is at stake; yet there is every reason to lie and point fingers when you've ended/endangered your own child's life. JMO..

I didn't even know who Peter Hyatt was at the beginning of this case. At first, I thought it was some guy named Seamus Oriley doing the analysis (duh). I think I read that the Seamus Oriley alias was created because of lawsuit threats by Cindy Anthony (which, of course, prompted me to read all of his analyses on her statements!).

Good going Billie - you've just ensured that a whole new audience will find Peter Hyatt. While I very much agree with the value of statement analysis and I find Mr. Hyatt's analysis very interesting in this case, I don't agree with all of Mr. Hyatt's opinions. I do, however, agree with his right to publish them. His disclaimers are always present, his opinions are labeled as such, and he backs up his opinions with analysis. Peter Hyatt owes Billie Jean Dunn a big thanks for this invaluable exposure. He has nothing to lose by this lawsuit threat, imo, and a much wider audience to gain...
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Post by charminglane Tue May 10, 2011 9:57 pm

Wouldn't the body language expert be Dr. Lillian Glass?
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Post by Wrapitup Tue May 10, 2011 10:00 pm

Dr. Glass is one of many, but I think she is definitely the most famous.

Hyatt is more about analyzing statements.
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Post by truthbtold Tue May 10, 2011 10:05 pm

charminglane wrote:Wouldn't the body language expert be Dr. Lillian Glass?

Exactly. They specifically name the person they are considering suing, but they don't even know what he does. More craziness and diversion, imo...
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