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Post by CarlysMommy Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:49 am

There are several petitions going around due to the obvious outrage of most people on the verdict of "not guilty." I found this one in particular interesting. Is this true? Could Casey Anthony be tried in Federal Court because she lied to a Federal Agent? Is this the loophole past double jeopardy?

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Post by artgal16 Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:55 am

I dont care how many petitions are circulated - they are not going to try her again. In OJ's case the family of Ron
Goldman sued him in Civil Court and got a money judgement against him. However, in the Anthony case
there is no one who has standing to bring charges against her. It would look like a witch hunt and the Feds arent going to get involved.
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Post by artgal16 Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:07 am

HLN reporting that Casey might go to Puerto Rico as
Jose Baez is from there and might have family there she can stay with.
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Post by Wrapitup Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:07 am

It's a decent question, though. The Feds were deeply involved in this case after Caylee's body was found.

This was in the comment section of that petition:

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Dual-Sovereignty Doctrine refers to a legal principle that more than one sovereign may prosecute an individual without violating the prohibition against double jeopardy if the individual's act breaks the laws of each sovereignty. Therefore the federal and state governments may both prosecute someone for a crime, without violating the constitutional protection against double jeopardy, if the person's act violated both jurisdictions' laws.
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Post by Wrapitup Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:09 am

artgal16 wrote:HLN reporting that Casey might go to Puerto Rico as
Jose Baez is from there and might have family there she can stay with.
She'd fit right in. That is where she wanted to go way back in March when she did those computer searches and where she wanted to go in those 31 days. I say: GO and good riddance. San Juan is a dangerous city. Let them have at her.
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Post by Boston_Lady Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:35 am

Ok.. First, the jury foreman can read people? Well sorry, but he read this whole case WRONG. He certainly didn't know how to read or look at the evidence.

Next, I wonder if HLN will carry the interview LIVE with the investigators? I'm working from home today so I'm going to take a peek.

Last, I don't think Casey can go to Puerto Rico or anywhere out of Florida since she is due in court for the Zenaida Gonzales civil case. I wonder what would happen if she didn't show up...
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Post by Wrapitup Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:44 am

I wonder if her attorney can show up for her and say she pleads the 5th.
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Post by artgal16 Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:46 am

They can do a skype deposition from anywhere in the world without her being cited for contempt I believe.
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Post by Wrapitup Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:36 pm

WKMG is having problems with their live feed.

The above link is funny. That gal is cracking me up.
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Post by Wrapitup Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:40 pm

If there is any way they can press other charges on her, they will do it now, while she is still locked up. I pray they can somehow do that. I don't care what they come up with. An illegal hangnail..something, anything to keep her behind bars!! huge waste praying
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Post by artgal16 Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:40 pm

I missed most of the beginning - are they saying they might bring up other charges against her?
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Post by adelacruz Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:52 pm

artgal16 wrote:I missed most of the beginning - are they saying they might bring up other charges against her?

no. just pretty much said they did the best and they stand by their case. we have to respect the jury's decision. and that they will give the same attention to whatever case they are working on now and in the future
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Post by adelacruz Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:53 pm

Wrapitup wrote:
artgal16 wrote:HLN reporting that Casey might go to Puerto Rico as
Jose Baez is from there and might have family there she can stay with.
She'd fit right in. That is where she wanted to go way back in March when she did those computer searches and where she wanted to go in those 31 days. I say: GO and good riddance. San Juan is a dangerous city. Let them have at her.

Ha! Puerto Ricans have strong blood! she won't last a day there!
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Post by Boston_Lady Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:00 pm

What makes me want to scream is that the investigators gave her opportunities when they were interviewing her about whether this was an accident. Tell us if it was an accident. We can work with you if it was an accident and she never even hinted at that time that it was an accident.

Yet, this is what her defense was!!! Why couldn't the jury see that this was a big fat LIE?

No excuse. This jury is/was stupid. They never took the time to look at anything presented by the prosecution. They made up their minds to believe Bayez from the opening statements. That alone shows their stupidity. Opening statements are not evidence!

I will have to hope that Casey will continue with her lies and actions and she will eventually be caught.

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:14 pm

I think it was Mike Brooks I heard say "if KC is as bad as people thinks she is, she will be back in the system again one day." Hopefully not for murdering another child.
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Post by artgal16 Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:23 pm

Right lets wait until she commits mayhem again
and then we will see justice. Shes a sociopath
no way she can live a normal life. She doesnt even really want one.
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Post by cherylz Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:35 pm

Will Cindy Anthony Face Perjury Charges?

OCSO Says Decision Was In State Attorney's Hands

POSTED: 4:11 pm EDT July 12, 2011
UPDATED: 4:24 pm EDT July 12, 2011

ORLANDO, Fla. -- A spokeswoman for the District Attorney's Office told WESH 2 News on Tuesday that Cindy Anthony will not face criminal perjury charges.

The word came just hours after top investigators who looked into Caylee Anthony's disappearance and death spoke about their work for the first time since Casey Anthony was found not guilty of first-degree murder.

Orange County Sheriff Jerry Demings said the decision on charges against Cindy Anthony was in the hands of the State Attorney's Office. She was accused of false claims made on the witness stand during her daughter's trial about computer searches for chloroform and her whereabouts.

Meanwhile, OCSO detectives said they are resuming a criminal tampering investigation. The investigation pertains to whether a Texas EquuSearch volunteer named Laura Buchanan was coached or encouraged to turn in false documents.

Detectives would not confirm if Casey Anthony defense attorney Jose Baez was the target of that probe.

Demings said his office received more than 6,100 tips in the investigation and more than 100 investigators were involved in pursuing leads.

"We gave 100 percent of our effort to try to locate her," Demings said.

Demings is in the process of calculating investigative costs for the State Attorney's Office, which is seeking reimbursement from Anthony.

Detective Yuri Melich, one of the lead investigators in the case who testified several times during the trial, said Tuesday he was not surprised by the defense's claim in its opening statement that Caylee's death was an accident and not murder.

The defense told jurors Caylee drowned in an above-ground swimming pool in the back yard of the family home.

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Melich and fellow detective John Allen said Tuesday they believed their investigation was complete and thorough, despite accusations that the idea of a drowning was never looked into.

"Our case was solid," Allen said.

Detectives reiterated George Anthony was never a suspect.

Melich said he's still taken aback at how Anthony acted once Caylee was finally reported missing.

"It's still amazing to me how she reacted during the interview," Melich said.

Melich said the case wouldn't have been taken to the grand jury unless they thought the case was strong enough.

The various investigators and technicians said they're often recognized more in public now because of their involvement with the high-profile case.

Computer forensics expert Sandra Osborne said it was her first major case.

"What a way to start," she said.

Crime scene technicians Gerardo Bloise and Jennifer Welch said they did not appreciate the claims by the defense that the work of their office was "fantasy forensics."

Bloise said he thought the jury would have been impacted if they would have been able to smell a carpet sample from Anthony's car that was sealed in a can. Numerous witnesses testified the car smelled like human decomposition. Judge Belvin Perry said the jury would not be able to smell the can if they asked.

Demings also reacted to a push for "Caylee's Law" by some Florida lawmakers, which would make it a felony to not report a child missing.

"It really captures some of the deficiencies we saw in this case," he said.

Allen also said a member of the intelligence division has been assigned to assess any threats against Casey Anthony while she remains in the jurisdiction of the Orange County Sheriff's Office.

Detectives said they're moving forward and learning what they can from the case's outcome.

"We have to respect our judicial system. I'm unhappy it wasn't a different verdict," Melich said.

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Post by artgal16 Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:33 pm

I didnt think they would pursue it - better to persue the tampering by Baez when it came to the TES woman who I believe was asked to lie about her statement.
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Post by artgal16 Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:46 pm

I have alwasys wondered about Caseys videos of Caylee where she would never speak a word - that has always bothered me. Its eerie - someone at wftv comments said it was almost like she was "grooming her for the camera" that is especially chilling to me.

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Posted: 11:46 am EDT July 12, 2011
Updated: 6:35 pm EDT July 12, 2011

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony is only days away from being released from jail and she already faces a new lawsuit and expenses that she may have to pay for the time spent searching for her daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony.

Orange County Sheriff's Office officials said on Tuesday during a press conference that they are investigating a case of witness tampering, and they are tallying the expenses that Casey may have to pay them for the time they spent searching for Caylee.

The investigators said they have devoted three years of their lives to the case.

PRESS CONFERENCE: Part 1 | Part 2
LAWSUIT: Equusearch Suing Casey
VIDEO REPORT: Investigators On Casey Case
EVIDENCE ARCHIVE: Casey Anthony Case
CASEY SENTENCING: Part 1 of 2 | Part 2
PHOTOS: Many Looks Of Casey In Court

Investigators said the search for Caylee and investigation into her death took an emotional toll on them and no matter what the jury has said, they have no doubt that Casey murdered Caylee.

Caylee was always their focus. First to find her, and when her bones were found with her skeleton wrapped in duct tape, they dedicated their time to finding her killer.

Detective Yuri Melich said during the press conference that Casey wouldn't tell him the truth.

Melich, who was the lead investigator in the murder case, was among the sheriff's officers who were finally able to tell their stories now that the case is closed.

"She never said it was an accident," Melich said. "She wouldn't tell us the truth."

The gruesome discovery took an emotional toll on detectives who have seen it all throughout their careers.

"To me, the personal toll was the fact that by looking at how they treated this poor child. Let the child rot in the woods is inhuman," Melich said.

The jurors might have had what they believe is reasonable doubt over not knowing exactly how Caylee died, but not the detectives.

"I certainly don't have any doubt. Working on this, I felt that our case was solid," said Sgt. John Allen.

The Casey case is closed, but the witness tampering investigation involving an altered Texas Equusearch document that was in the possession of her defense team is ongoing.


"A defense team investigator having possession of something that could be a fabricated document. How far could it go or don't you know yet?" reporter Kathi Belich asked Sgt. Allen.

"We don't know. Obviously we'll follow up. Obviously there are still a number of people we will need to interview in regard to that and we hope to get to the bottom of that," said Sgt. Allen.

Tim Miller of Texas Equusearch claims Casey's lies cost his search team $112,000 and has filed a lawsuit against her.

Miller said Casey owes the group money because Caylee was never really missing.

Also revealed on Tuesday was that defense attorney Jose Baez would not allow detectives to talk to Casey about allegations she made to ex-boyfriends and a jail pen pal that her brother molested her and that her father might have.

"We did reach out to the Baez law firm and were asked not to approach her at the jail," said Sgt. Eric Edwards.

The sheriff's office, the Metropolitan Bureau of Investigation, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement and the FBI are all totaling the costs they incurred in their search for Caylee until her remains were discovered on December 11, 2008.

The State Attorney's Office will ask Chief Judge Belvin Perry to order Casey to pay the costs should she cash in on Caylee's death or come into money some other way.

Also during the press conference, Sheriff Jerry Demings said there were discussions with prosecutors about filing perjury charges against Cindy Anthony for her testimony on in Casey's trial.

However, a spokeswoman for a prosecutor's office said Cindy Anthony will not face perjury charges. State attorney's office spokeswoman Danielle Tavernier said on Tuesday that prosecutors have decided against charging Cindy. Cindy initially told police she did not search for chloroform on the family computer, but at the trial she said she did.

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NancyGraceHLN Nancy Grace
Tot Mom’s shrink, Harry Krop, Ph.D. joins me live tonight! He’s taking your calls coming up at 8PM ET on #HLN!
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WITH BILL ZWECKER July 11, 2011 1:11PM
Updated: July 12, 2011 2:08AM

Note: No clue if this is Fact. NG w/be discussing it tonight.


Casey Anthony and her advisers are putting a lot of thought into her release from prison Wednesday.

A source close to the Anthony team shared this with me Monday:

† The mother of the slain Caylee reportedly is considering various disguises she can easily employ — to realistically alter her appearance. “There even have been discussions about cosmetic surgery, but Casey has rejected that out of hand,” said the Anthony insider, who says she believes “Casey really does not completely understand the depth of hatred out there.

“She’s fully aware of the various death threats, of course, but she thinks that’s isolated to relatively few nutcases,” added the source, who is deeply worried about Anthony’s well-being.

† Once Anthony reaches the still-secret location where she will live (known to a handful of people — but not my source) she is expected to live under a pseudonym, “almost as if she was living in a witness protection-like program,” to avoid being harassed.

While many have said they would never buy an Anthony-authored book about her experience, she is fielding a lot of publishing offers — as well as TV and film pitches from all over the world.

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Post by artgal16 Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:52 pm

Well thats the thing isnt it - offers from countries other than the U.S.
that is pretty typical - I think OJ went to Germany for an interview?
No matter what, she will make a lot of money I have no doubt of it.
The shrink on TV says shes not mentally ill but in my opinion she has a personality disorder for sure - that is that she is a sociopath. Its interesting that she gave this doctor permission to speak about her. It says a lot about who Casey Anthony really is. If she does leave the State she can still do a deposition for Morgan by Skype and Im waiting to see that - she will probably take the fifth but just watching her expressions will be worth a lot. They also said she doesnt realize how the public feels about her - she will find out soon enough.
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Post by Nama Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:06 pm

Harry Krop, Ph.D was on Nancy Grace and he said that Casey okayed him talking to Nancy, but he was not allowed to addrress the sexual abuse or the event of Caylee's death.

What else is there? These are the two biggest "bombshells" in the defense's opening statement.

This man said that he doesn't think Casey has any idea how the public REALLY perceives her, even though her attorneys have told her, and she won't know until she gets out of jail and sees the reality.

It's not going to be a Bella Vita, Casey! Get use to it!
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Post by Wrapitup Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:11 pm

She is so delusional that she thinks she will "walk out" with people cheering for her. She thinks she is beautiful and sexy and can talk her way in or out of anything. She has no clue what the public really thinks and she is about to get a VERY rude awakening. I can't wait!!!!
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Post by artgal16 Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:12 pm

Funny we wanted her in jail -- but reality will be her biggest prison - because she will be out of jail but she still wont be able to do what she wants to do- even the stupid jury has condemned her - and LE today
at their news conference has condemned her as well.
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Post by charminglane Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:33 pm

"Allen also said a member of the intelligence division has been assigned to assess any threats against Casey Anthony while she remains in the jurisdiction of the Orange County Sheriff's Office."

Well, shucky darn, I hope he looks the other way when that does happen.
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Post by laga Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:48 pm

charminglane wrote:"Allen also said a member of the intelligence division has been assigned to assess any threats against Casey Anthony while she remains in the jurisdiction of the Orange County Sheriff's Office."

Well, shucky darn, I hope he looks the other way when that does happen.

Maybe they will give Officer Cain another chance and assign this important job to him, let him have a chance to redeem himself. Fingers Crossed
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laga wrote:
charminglane wrote:"Allen also said a member of the intelligence division has been assigned to assess any threats against Casey Anthony while she remains in the jurisdiction of the Orange County Sheriff's Office."

Well, shucky darn, I hope he looks the other way when that does happen.

Maybe they will give Officer Cain another chance and assign this important job to him, let him have a chance to redeem himself. Fingers Crossed
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Post by artgal16 Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:12 pm

No one is going to hurt her - Im just waiting for July 19th - if she doesnt show or let get on Skype or another type of video depo she will be held in contempt of court!
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Post by Wrapitup Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:14 pm

She will be out of town and possibly in Puerto Rico by then. I think she won't show and will be held in contempt. MOO.
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Post by artgal16 Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:24 pm

Really? whats the penalty for contempt? Do you think her lawyers will risk her coming to court again? I dont think so, she will testify probably by video.
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Post by Boston_Lady Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:33 pm

I find it very difficult to believe that Casey has not been exposed to the feelings of everyone in the USA via her tv privileges. She is so self involved that I'm sure she was looking for herself on every station.

Now, does she accept the public's view? In her self involved way, she probably can't see outside of her own opinion. But that doesn't mean she hasn't been exposed to the opinions.

I wish she had to stay in General Population in prison for a few months so she could get a real taste of not being liked......

Although, none of this will bring Caylee back. futile. 🇳🇴
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Post by Heike Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:44 pm

Wrapitup wrote:She is so delusional that she thinks she will "walk out" with people cheering for her. She thinks she is beautiful and sexy and can talk her way in or out of anything. She has no clue what the public really thinks and she is about to get a VERY rude awakening. I can't wait!!!!

A (freaking) MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! chug
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Post by charminglane Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:11 pm

A (freaking) MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! chug

Men/Man are what she will be aiming for soon enough.


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Post by charminglane Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:13 pm

She can change her name to Siobhan O'Shaugnessey and get some plastic surgery, however the Bella Vita will give it away every time SHE gives it away!
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Post by Wrapitup Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:14 pm


I wish she had to stay in General Population in prison for a few months so she could get a real taste of not being liked......
A few months? A few decades. She probably wouldn't last but a few months, though. Those Big Bertha's in there would rip her a new one.
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Post by Wrapitup Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:16 pm

charminglane wrote:A (freaking) MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! chug

Men/Man are what she will be aiming for soon enough.


That's what I thought Heike meant at first. Men. party That's what Casey wants. She thinks she is pole dancer pole dancer pole dancer pole dancer pole dancer pole dancer pole dancer
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Post by Heike Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:14 pm

Hahaha ladies! But...ok, what am I missing? Why does Cory get a stripper girl? hahaha

I started following the Leah case last night to try to catch up with remembering the history and there does seem to be new evidence, but what is the strongest evidence considered to be? It seems an accumulation of circumstantial evidence and then the eyewitness seeing three walking along the road? Did that witness come forward in the beginning?

SIDETRACKING>>>>Can you imagine the defense saying, oh, hang on, it was an accident and he just freaked and decided to throw her over an embankment...etc. etc. No ONE would hear a word they said... I HOPE and PRAY that there will be justice for sweet Leah. Love and hugs to Cory!

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Post by Heike Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:30 pm

ON topic only in terms of this is what a tortured human being sounds like after an accident causing the death of a child....

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It was his girlfriend's two year old and her snake from before they moved in with the boyfriend. Sad, sad story, but one where the people did the right thing after obviously not understanding the danger. They are up for 3rd degree murder (manslaughter) 30+ years.
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Post by Wrapitup Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:08 am

Dear Heike,

You are drifting threads, my dear. LOL. We have a thread for Leah and a thread on the poor little girl who died due to the snake crawling in her crib.

You are MORE than welcome to comment about Leah on her thread and would love it if you would. You have a lot of insight and I know Cory would appreciate hearing what you have to say when this trial is over and she reads the comments.

Normally, I wouldn't care..but this is the Casey Anthony "Not Mom" that w/be out of jail on Sunday" thread and I want to keep it that way.

Thanks.

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Post by Heike Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:26 am

Wrapitup wrote:Dear Heike,

You are drifting threads, my dear. LOL. We have a thread for Leah and a thread on the poor little girl who died due to the snake crawling in her crib.

You are MORE than welcome to comment about Leah on her thread and would love it if you would. You have a lot of insight and I know Cory would appreciate hearing what you have to say when this trial is over and she reads the comments.

Normally, I wouldn't care..but this is the Casey Anthony "Not Mom" that w/be out of jail on Sunday" thread and I want to keep it that way.

Thanks.

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Yes, yes, I know (sorry)....I did drift because of the stripper girls for Cory comment and then wandered a bit.

I had no idea about a thread for the snake issue, but really did mean it in terms of how a person behaves vs. Casey, when losing a child tragically, rather than the case itself.

I will surely try to be better! xoxo
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Post by Wrapitup Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:31 am

You're fine and I see your point. That 911 call is gut-wrenching!

For some reason, Cory loves that stripper gal. It makes her laugh. So, anytime we see it, we think of her.

Now, as far as Casey, I have never heard her cry like that man whose daughter was found dead in her crib. The most I've seen Casey cry is when her mom was on the stand, got down and didn't even look at her. Once the jury left..she had an all out fit!! Does anyone remember that?
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Post by Heike Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:50 am

(Thanks, Kathie)

And yes, I absolutely remember that! She was HURT and had total anger and frustration tears! That was the one where we had the whole lip reading issue to resolve! She was indignant I think...again, all about her!

And the 911 guy, he is the little girl's mom's boyfriend! Not even his child.

Casey will definitely have to FACE herself on some level once the focus is not her trial! Grrrrr

Goodnight all!
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Post by Nama Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:50 am

OCSO said there have been NO credible death threats again Casey and when she gets out of jail she's on her own. There will be no special protection for her. Is the defense team making the threats up to gain sympathy from the public? I don't put anything past them after their opening statement.

One of the jurors (Ford) said that she believed that the defense team down right lied during the opening statement and still they didn't feel there was enough evidence that Casey was responsible for Caylee's death. Ford said there was NO evidence of molestation. She wishes that the molestation wouldn't have been brought up because it painted a very graphic and disgusting picture and she felt that the defense should have been able to back it up with evidence. She doesn't believe that Caylee drowned!
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