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Post by Boston_Lady on Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:00 pm

gnreed wrote:I can see why LE was not at the vigil. As a LE officer, I could not be present when both suspects are also present. Eventhough it was for Hailey, I could NOT have been present with that scum (SA) there also.
I cannot defend LE as I have no idea where the investigation stands. I just cannot bash them for not being present at the vigil. They are in a tough spot. They are getting hammered by the locals. Maybe they deserve it, but I am more than certain if LE had been present, they would have been criticized for being there with SA also there. JMO


Hi GnReed. The story behind LE not being at the vigil is that they had multiple emergency calls that they had to respond to and actually had to call for help from another county. There was a fire, a high speed chase and some break in. It's a small police organization and I guess it's easy to overwhelm them. That is what Cat Geiger stated on FB and she works for the local radio station there.

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Post by jeanne1807 on Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:07 pm

I have to laugh when I see Billie manipulating everybody the way she is doing.

Believe me she is nothing but a little hillbilly girl with a big mouth.

Heck she has been waging war on the police in her community since day one of this battle. Remember the 911 call we all listened to when the officer was so upset having to go to her house again.

And then there was the scene of Billie in jail in the orange jump suit telling the officer where she wanted to be.

Amazing that that little con artist is able to pull the wool over everybody eyes.

But then I remember Misty Croslin strutting all around Satsuma and I wondered if that strut would ever end.

It did and she will soon have company...Billie.

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Post by gnreed on Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:54 pm

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gnreed wrote:I can see why LE was not at the vigil. As a LE officer, I could not be present when both suspects are also present. Eventhough it was for Hailey, I could NOT have been present with that scum (SA) there also.
I cannot defend LE as I have no idea where the investigation stands. I just cannot bash them for not being present at the vigil. They are in a tough spot. They are getting hammered by the locals. Maybe they deserve it, but I am more than certain if LE had been present, they would have been criticized for being there with SA also there. JMO


Hi GnReed. The story behind LE not being at the vigil is that they had multiple emergency calls that they had to respond to and actually had to call for help from another county. There was a fire, a high speed chase and some break in. It's a small police organization and I guess it's easy to overwhelm them. That is what Cat Geiger stated on FB and she works for the local radio station there.


I am curious as to what would have happened if LE had attended the vigil. Would they stand around while BD and her SUPPORTERS slammed them for not talking to Billie? (Eventhough BD's attorney ordered her NOT to talk to them)
What a mess. I watched the video again and truly believe Holly Jenkins and a couple of the other searchers are enjoying the camera time. I do not understand the AGREEMENT they are talking about with LE. Maybe someone can explain it to me. I haven't been following the case as much lately.

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Post by Boston_Lady on Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:31 am

gnreed wrote:This has gotten out of control. I usually don't read Facebook posts about Hailey but did so today. It's reported that LE admits to no CP was found.
Who did they admit this to? Once again, I am not believing anything I read on Facebook. LE does need to step up to the microphone and set the story straight.


gnreed. Clint Dunn said that he was told by FBI that there was no Child Porn. He said it on a radio blog show a week ago. Clint also said that God impressed on him that Shawn was not guilty. How much is he smoking? I'm sure FBI never told him about the CP because they haven't even finished their investigation in Dallas. It's all NUTS!!!
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Post by Wrapitup on Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:39 am

That IS Nuts, B_L!! Do you by chance have a link to the radio blog show?

Thanks for all the updates also!! You are our "go to gal" in this case.

Gnreed, if you aren't following the case as much, that speaks Volumes!! You were one of the main members who did.

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Post by Boston_Lady on Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:49 am

Ok.. so. The alleged deal made with LE. They are full of crap. If you watched the press conference (if you call it one), the first thing Carrie McGonagle said was "WE made an offer to LE" and then she said it again "WE made an offer to LE". Holly a little bit later said "LE made the offer to us" and Carrie then switched it up and said "Yes LE made an offer to us and we took it. We said okay we'll take it". WTF???? Lies.

What I did hear from the radio blog, LE told them to give them 2 - 4 more weeks and they would have something. But again, you have to believe those 3 women who went in for this "deal". And Billie did not go in but she finished Carrie's sentence when Carrie was saying something about the meeting. Hmmmm they told Billie everything.

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Post by Boston_Lady on Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:51 am

Here is the link to the Blog Talk Radio show where Peter Hyatt was a guest. It really was a good show. It's long... 2 hours but I think worth listening to.

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Post by Wrapitup on Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:06 am

Thanks, B_L. I will need to make sure I have a valium w/in arms reach in order to read the FB and many smoking

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Post by Boston_Lady on Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:17 am

I know some do not like Peter Hyatt but I find his statement analysis very interesting. But whatever your feelings are, you should join the Blog Talk radio show on Wednesday Sept 7th because The Ellis Observer is going to have Peter Hyatt and Carrie McGonagle as guests. This should be a very intense show as Carrie stands by Billie Jean and has been very outspoken. And Peter believes that both Billie & Shawn are guilty/deceptive. It's up to you but the chatroom is also open and you can see some of the comments from the audience :)
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Post by Boston_Lady on Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:18 am

Here is the link to the show:

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Post by sdillard on Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:12 am

I can not for the life of me remember where I read this, and I will have to do some digging, or call CCPD myself.....but IIRC , wasn't the police dept in CC about to be done away with until this case came about?
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Post by Wrapitup on Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:32 am

I don't think they were about to be "done away with" but IIRC, they have a new COP.

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Post by sdillard on Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:06 pm

Oh sorry...I was thinking that they were going to close it down. Hmm....oh well. At least today is Friday, and if you look at the days of the week, Monday (M), Tuesday (T), and the rest of the days are WTF.....which is what I am saying right now.


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Post by sdillard on Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:14 pm

Wrapitup wrote: I agree I agree I agree good post

It's Great to see you, Sdillard!!!! Don't be a stranger. You have a definite way with words and getting to the crux of the matter! Couple Hugging

Thank you, Wrap. Don't be surprised or take it personally if I disappear again, it's only to preserve my sanity. I currently live in a "no bullshit zone". Sad to say, but most of the time it is solitary, LOL!
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Post by jeanne1807 on Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:52 pm

I am confused. When did Carrie McGonigle get involved in all of this?

I remember another gal that flew in when Hailey first went missing and gave money to Billie and brought in some people to help with the search.

Are they one and the same? What is your opinions on these two gals..or one gal if they are the same?

I wasn't around when Amber went missing and don't remember much about the other little girl that went missing walking home from school with her brothers and sisters and I think it was her mother..the other one that flew in early.

Gosh this is confusing.
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Post by Boston_Lady on Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:25 pm

I think it was Somer Thompson who flew out and gave Billie the "grant" to pay her bills. I am not sure when Carrie Mcgonagle got involved but she is pro Billie.

Billie has been posting on FB today and her language is appalling. Someone gave Peter Hyatt the thread with Billie answering questions (and lying) and he did an analysis on it. Well that FB group went off the charts with anger and Billie was leading the pack. She is nasty. For your convenience, I've copied it so you can see. This is the woman of a missing child. Why is she on FB spewing this filth instead of out finding her daughter? And this is the same woman who would not leave her home in case Hailey suddenly came home. Really twisted. By the way, I posted from two groups. I separated them below. Let me know what you think of this classless woman.

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Post by truthbtold on Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:31 pm

jeanne1807 wrote:I am confused. When did Carrie McGonigle get involved in all of this?

I remember another gal that flew in when Hailey first went missing and gave money to Billie and brought in some people to help with the search.

Are they one and the same? What is your opinions on these two gals..or one gal if they are the same?

I wasn't around when Amber went missing and don't remember much about the other little girl that went missing walking home from school with her brothers and sisters and I think it was her mother..the other one that flew in early.

Gosh this is confusing.

Hi jeanne,

Diena Thompson, Somer Thompson's mom, went to CCity and gave Billie a donation from her new foundation early in the case. Marc Klaas and Carrie McGonigle were supporting the search for Hailey and standing by Billie at first. Diena has said nothing since Billie's true colors became abundantly obvious. Marc told a national audience that Billie is not naive and should be ashamed of herself. The only one still standing by Billie is Carrie (whose name Billie couldn't even remember in the dog-and-pony show press conference last week).

When Carrie's daughter Amber went missing, Carrie and her long term live-in boyfriend were looked at by LE, per policy in any missing child case. Carrie was cleared quickly, but her boyfriend Dave had changed his routine that day and couldn't be cleared. He willingly submitted to 7 polys in the course of a year. There was a report in a San Diego paper that he passed the first one. I have never been able to find any reports about whether he passed or failed the other 6. Either way, Dave had skipped work and IIRC gone to a movie the day Amber disappeared, he presented Carrie an early Valentine's present that day, he and Amber had the typical teenager-stepfather tensions, and there was absolutely no evidence for the police to go on. So, these factors combined kept Dave from being cleared.

Carrie moved out of their house, taking their young daughter with her. She allowed Dave supervised visits and focused on searching for Amber. I admired Carrie for putting her children first and staying all over LE, searching non-stop for Amber. I was relieved for Dave when he was vindicated and Gardner was caught. Imo, Carrie did the right things in her case, but the way she is handling this situation in Hailey's case has caused me to lose some respect and question her judgment. It makes me wonder if she is bitter about what her boyfriend went through for that year and wishes she had stuck by him, like Billie has done with Shawn. They reunited after Amber was found.

The difference is, Dave never lied about his alibi, it just couldn't be proven 100%. IIRC, Dave was not formally declared a "suspect" by LE publicly and he was very active in cooperating with LE from the get go, never refusing an interview or request for another poly. He was more of a "default suspect" imo, because LE had nothing else to go on. Shawn Adkins, on the other hand, lied about his alibi and has been completely uncooperative. Billie too. They are not default suspects because there is nothing else to go on. They are suspects because of their lies and deviant/illegal/money-grubbing activities. Just speculating, but I wonder if Carrie can see the difference.
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Post by Boston_Lady on Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:44 pm

I have a question, what does IIRC mean? txs
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Post by Nama on Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:51 pm

Boston_Lady wrote:I have a question, what does IIRC mean? txs
IIRC = If I remember correctly.

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Post by jeanne1807 on Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:42 pm

truthbetold thank you for the explanation. I now remember both women just not all the details.

Makes one wonder what would ever be seen in Billie?

When Carrie was looking for Amber did she behave the way Billie behaves?

I am trying to find the tie that binds them I guess.

I understand about the boyfriends both being suspects but then again in most missing children..the men are always looked at first.

Most do everything they can to clear themselves.

I just can't see any "nice" person taking up with the likes of Billie.
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Post by truthbtold on Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:59 pm

Sorry bout that Boston_Lady and thanks BJ! Yes, IIRC = if I recall correctly.

Boston_Lady, thanks for the heads-up. I just went and read the Hyatt analysis of Billie's FB interview/chat. OMG. Billie is the worst liar of all time. She can't stop herself.

Now, for the first time ever, she says Shawn quit his job on the 27th because he had secured another job. Oh, please. She cannot remember saying that he had a fight at work, got fired, and was researching unemployment benefits at his mom's house later that morning. Brilliant Billie got called out by someone in the chat, and then says that Shawn wasn't completely sure about the new job, which he never started because of the pain and grief associated with Hailey.

Now, she says Shawn went straight to his mom's house right after quitting? She cannot remember Shawn's 2-part interview where he says he first went to his grandma's, which is in the far opposite direction of his mom's house. Originally, he claimed that he forgot to tell police about the visit to grandma's because they didn't ask him specifically. This was his attempt to explain pinging at the cell tower near Billie's house on the morning of the 27th. He wanted us to infer he was driving down the highway from his grandma's to his mom's (and pinging off the same tower for 30 minutes?). Brilliant Billie forgot about this story until someone asked her to clarify. Then, she says, "oops", I forgot about grandma's house because blah, blah, blah...

Billie says in this FB chat that LE never told her about his cell phone pinging off of her CCity tower for 30 minutes. Yet, we all saw it clear as day in the search warrant affadavit at the start of the case..

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Billie is a very scary woman, imo. She introduced 3 more significant lies that I counted into her story in one little FB chat session.


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jeanne1807 wrote:truthbetold thank you for the explanation. I now remember both women just not all the details.

Makes one wonder what would ever be seen in Billie?

When Carrie was looking for Amber did she behave the way Billie behaves?

I am trying to find the tie that binds them I guess.

I understand about the boyfriends both being suspects but then again in most missing children..the men are always looked at first.

Most do everything they can to clear themselves.

I just can't see any "nice" person taking up with the likes of Billie.

I live in California and followed Amber's case closely. Carrie, imo, is an edgy woman, similar to Billie. She has a somewhat hard exterior. But, she did not act like Billie at all. She used her toughness to push like hell for her daughter. She pushed LE non-stop, led search teams, did press releases frequently, never gave up. When Gardner was nabbed for killing Chelsea King 60 miles away (IIRC) a year after Amber went missing, Carrie was on morning shows saying she did not believe the cases were connected. She never accepted Amber was dead until he confessed and it was proven.

P.s. I did not recognize Carrie in the press conference this week. Her hair is now blonde and it looks like she's had work done. But, it could instead be that she just looks younger and different because she has more peace of mind than when Amber was missing. Whatever the reason, the change is dramatic.
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Post by Boston_Lady on Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:25 pm

If anyone stops by Peter Hyatt's blog to look at the Billie Dunn analysis from today, you will see I am being followed by some sick individual who is posting nasty things. Disgusting. I really find it remarkable that my simple opinion would cause such a drastic response. I don't call names, I only state my opinion.

Peter or Heather will delete the disgusting attacks when they read their blog. It's just uncomfortable knowing that it will be there all night.

I have my guesses that the attacks are coming from Billie or Shawn.. if not someone close. Who else would care what I say? And Billie Dunn said she doesn't go online and yet, the past couple of days she has been using her phone to get there. I bet she has been going online all along. Why else would she hate Peter Hyatt so intensely? It's not a national blog by any means.

Sorry, just had to vent !
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Post by truthbtold on Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:33 pm

Boston_Lady wrote:If anyone stops by Peter Hyatt's blog to look at the Billie Dunn analysis from today, you will see I am being followed by some sick individual who is posting nasty things. Disgusting. I really find it remarkable that my simple opinion would cause such a drastic response. I don't call names, I only state my opinion.

Peter or Heather will delete the disgusting attacks when they read their blog. It's just uncomfortable knowing that it will be there all night.

I have my guesses that the attacks are coming from Billie or Shawn.. if not someone close. Who else would care what I say? And Billie Dunn said she doesn't go online and yet, the past couple of days she has been using her phone to get there. I bet she has been going online all along. Why else would she hate Peter Hyatt so intensely? It's not a national blog by any means.

Sorry, just had to vent !

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Post by Boston_Lady on Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:39 pm

truthbtold wrote:
Boston_Lady wrote:If anyone stops by Peter Hyatt's blog to look at the Billie Dunn analysis from today, you will see I am being followed by some sick individual who is posting nasty things. Disgusting. I really find it remarkable that my simple opinion would cause such a drastic response. I don't call names, I only state my opinion.

Peter or Heather will delete the disgusting attacks when they read their blog. It's just uncomfortable knowing that it will be there all night.

I have my guesses that the attacks are coming from Billie or Shawn.. if not someone close. Who else would care what I say? And Billie Dunn said she doesn't go online and yet, the past couple of days she has been using her phone to get there. I bet she has been going online all along. Why else would she hate Peter Hyatt so intensely? It's not a national blog by any means.

Sorry, just had to vent !

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I agree they are nut jobs. Hopefully just online nut jobs !! Some know my name because I post on FB under my real name. Maybe I should get another account with a fake name like many are doing. Or maybe I should just step back but I have a hard time watching these lies and manipulation without calling them on it.

I should be finishing a bunch of knitting projects that I seem to keep pushing to the end of my daily list :) Thank you TBT for your response :)
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Post by Boston_Lady on Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:19 pm

Billie Jean was back today commenting on threads. She is becoming more and more bold as days go on. Is this because she is confidence that Hailey will never be found? In fact, on the thread today, she was taunting in her responses. For your convenience I've copied and pasted below. Or you can go to FB and read. Not sure if this copies in a easy to read format. Let me know what you think...

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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ Katherine Birdwell said: omg this is in a statement some where .Hailey pulled out earrings to sleep on sofa How many of you can sleep with them in Upon getting ready to return home the 26th could not find them .Fell off arm of sofa .chloe was not crawling to young to crawl .When dd came to say hailey missing ns had found one under edge of sofa put on mantle so then gave to dd while there .according to statement the other earring was found when sofa was picked up to move out of house .It was under the sofa .
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ DeNeise Bennett Coates said: Naomi told me she took them out and tossed them on the floor next to the couch and then told Naomi they were on the floor. Why would she tell Naomi they were on the floor? Why would Naomi care?
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ DeNeise posted: DeNeise Bennett Coates Naomi Stewart

Hailey Dunn's brother no longer staying at home in Colorado City
By Celinda Emison
Updated Wednesday, January 19, 2011



Clint Dunn and his girlfriend, Naomi Stewart, told the Reporter-News that Hailey had spent Christmas night at Clint Dunn's home.

"She took off those earrings and dropped them by the couch and asked me to put them up for her," Stewart said. "She asked me to pick them up for her, and I only found one of them."

Stewart and Clint Dunn said Hailey walked to the Dollar Store and Alco department store Sunday, not Monday, as Burroughs told police.

"She never came over at all Monday," Stewart said.

"Police have told us surveillance tapes at both stores put Hailey there on Sunday," Clint Dunn said.



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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ If you have a source for a different earring story please post them here - I am trying to get all the earring statements in one thread so we can look at them objectively and see if the earrings are possibly relevant to the timeline. To my knowledge those earrings are the only real piece of physical evidence as to Hailey's whereabouts - if it can be verified via Xbox pics whether or not Hailey had them on on 12/26 in the evening.
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Kristen Jones From BTH interview ---->

Naomi: Hailey, like we had said, Hailey had stayed the night, Sunday, and she had took her earrings out because her mom had let her get her top ear lobe pierced, and her ears were sore, and so she took her ears, her earrings out, and kind of dropped them on the floor beside the couch, and she said, “Naomi, if you find those later, will you put them up?”, and I said, “Yes.”.

Well, I had only found one of the red earrings, and I think it was Saturday that I had found the earring, and

Clint: It was…

Naomi: or was it? It was Monday that I found the earring, excuse me, and set it up on my shelf, and David had came over and got it, and took it over to his mom, and I didn’t even know he took it over there, and I guess she had said that he had found it.

Host: And why is this such a big deal?

Naomi: I have no idea.
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ Do you have a source for that, Maria? I'm trying as much as I can to narrow the sources to those who were there, so we can get an idea of what the actual story is.
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Tallulah Marlboro Who has seen the surveillance tapes from the 26th? If able to zoom in, they should show Hailey without the earrings.
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ Or with them. Good catch, Tallulah.
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ To my knowledge LE has the tapes. And the xbox with the Kinect shots from the night of the 26th. But since we don't have either of those, I'd like to try to put it together from witness statements. Does the earring story keep changing? I believe it does. Each story looks slightly different. At this point I don't know if LE has one earring or two or none.
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Billie Dunn The only story i know is this, Hailey had them on the 26th, & davids not a liar he said he found it when helping clint & naomi move. Whats a top ear lobe? She wore those in her ear lobes, Yes.i
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DeNeise Bennett Coates NANCY GRACE
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00 ET

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

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Aired January 20, 2011 - 20:00:00 ET

GRACE: To Billie Dunn. You believe -- you told me that she was wearing those earrings over Christmas. Did she spend the night with her father Christmas evening?

DUNN: She did.

GRACE: Are you absolutely positive she had the earrings on Sunday, the next day?

DUNN: No, I`m not.

GRACE: So him saying --

DUNN: I noticed that she had taken them out.

GRACE: Yes. So him saying she left it there Christmas night is entirely possible, correct?

DUNN: Yes.

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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ I believe that David did find one earring while helping Clint and Naomi move. That part has been consistent through most of the versions I've heard. Billie, I'm sure you have answered this before, but do you know what gauge those earrings were? Would Hailey have taken them out?
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ Oh, and - Hailey was wearing those earrings when she was home on the 26th in the evening? Did I read that right? Do you know if LE has one or both earrings? (Sorry, I have a lot of questions. I'll hush now.)
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Kay Sharp Young naomi says both were found, billie says just one...both lie....LE isn't saying...so there ya go...no answers:(
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Dawn Moore ‎(I did post a theory about the earring story stating it was putting all I read into a plausible scenario … )
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Dawn Moore I have never seen an upper ear cartilage ear piercing ‘gauged’. Only fleshy ear lobes are gauge-able -moo.
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Diane StJean From naomi, clint , they have stated she took them out while at Clint & Naomi's. Billie stated on NG that Hailey was not wearing them. (per the transcript above) I guess my question is, why were the red earrings included in what Hailey was wearing when she disappeared when clearly she wasn't. Am I missing something?
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Billie Dunn Only 1 was found. IM only looking out 4 me & mine now. She wouldnt have taken them out. Idk know the size maybe a 16 or 14. The 27th is hard 2 remember but i Dont ever remember seeing her without them once she put them in
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Anna Parker Ok Billie you said on NG you noticed she took them out, on here just now you said she had them on. It cant be both ways?
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ Thanks, Billie. I appreciate you answering.
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Billie Dunn Bcuz i hadnt noticed her without them & thought she was wearing them plus, they werent at home i knew that much also clint told me that Hailey muster taken them out at his house. Im not afraid to say probably or i Dont remember or not sure.
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Diane StJean Interesting.
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Billie Dunn Nope it Cant be both ways. I really Dont remember her taking them out but like i said clint told me she did, so i believed it.this is like Shawn quitting a job he hated & having some back jobs & wanting 1 with good pay.
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ I like the idea of looking at the surveillance video to see if Hailey was wearing the earrings - either there, or on the Kinect pics that LE likely has from the Xbox on the night of the 26th. If either set shows Hailey wearing them, then we can place Hailey (or her earrings, at least), at Clint and Naomi's after that time.
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Billie Dunn I just Dont know if they were or werent in. Maybe Hailey has the other maybe not.
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ I'm not trying to make a timeline to fit a theory, by the way - I'm following the evidence to see where it goes. That's why the different stories on the earrings are interesting to me. There have been inconsistencies on those earrings for eight months - partly due to lack of memory, I'm sure - but we can kinda narrow down what we do know and use that.
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Billie Dunn Yes & Thats the only way 2 know 4 sure. 1 FBI agent said it looked like she had them in when her hair was blown back while jumping. But i never got 2 see them.
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Shannon Doyle Mercer I know you don't like it when I change up the threads DMZ, but since Billie is on this thread I would really like to know something. What was it that LE said to Shawn that made him answer that Hailey was in Scurry County?
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Billie Dunn I completely get that.
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Tallulah Marlboro I think the surveillance tapes could clear it up. It could be hard to remember the earrings after all that was happening. Did Hailey go to the stores with surveillance after she left Clint's to go home?
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Billie Dunn Could she be found in scurry county? That was there loaded question.
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Angela Brooks Howell So the question was not "where should we look for Hailey"
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Billie Dunn She was on camera the 26th with Naomis son in the store but i couldnt see her ears at all.
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Diane StJean Clint passed the lie detector test.
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Angela Brooks Howell Shouldn't this all be in a report? Questions and answers.
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Billie Dunn No Angela, it was ccould she be found in scurry co. Le told me that so did Shawn so did my bro
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Kay Sharp Young why did he say "you need to look at me and billie"?
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Billie Dunn Surely there would be right?
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ Okay, so the earrings were not visible on the surveillance video but might have been visible on the Xbox jumping pics from the Kinect the night of the 26th. Where I'm going with this is - if she was wearing the earrings on the 27th, how did they end up under Naomi's couch, and when exactly did Naomi say Hailey took them out and left them there?
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Billie Dunn I will never believe he did. I know he didnt.
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ ‎*On the night of the 26th* is what I should have posted. See where my brain went? Funny how we do that sometimes.
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Angela Brooks Howell Thanks Biile! Yes they should be somewher..my bro is a deputy and most of his time is spent writing reports...Billie did you have a chance to visit w/Tinker while you were in C-City?
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Anna Parker Is LE the only ones with XBOX pics?
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Billie Dunn I Dont remember what day naomi said Hailey took them out, i think she said 25th
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Shannon Doyle Mercer I wonder if there are any outside experts that can blow up the pictures where she was on camera to see her ears?
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ Angela, you'd think so, wouldn't you? But we don't know that LE ever really asked about the earrings too much. We have no idea what questions and answers were on Clint and Naomi's polys - and btw I'm not saying either of them hurt Hailey. I'm saying follow the evidence. The earrings are just about the only physical evidence that we are aware of at this point that are directly connected to Hailey.
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Maria Nelson Can someone please explain what gauging is? I'm not familiar with that term.
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ Cell pings, porn or no porn, all that is indirect. We have no hair, no fibers, no blood that we know of. We have no clothes, no contact from Hailey herself, and no forensics directly connected to her except possibly the earrings. Polygraphs are interesting tools but are not foolproof and are not admissible in court. Witness statements made not under oath are not admissible in most cases. So.. where's the other earring?
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Maria Nelson Are these pierced earrings or what? Do most people sleep with their earrings on at night? I find them to be most uncomfortable to sleep with.
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Angela Brooks Howell Making your earlobs bigger Maria. Like they wear in Africa!
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Billie Dunn Yes le has the only xbox pics & i started a journal 12- 25 maybe i`ll go thru it later
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Angela Brooks Howell Not a dig at Africa just the best way I know to "splain" it!
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Ske Od the biggest problem i have seen is, everyone is "helping" the others with their story. clint offered corrections, and naomi changed it even further than that. then this info was told to billie by someone else...LE? billie does not know for herself, she is just repeating what was told to her by LE or others as her own fact. billie should say, LE told me that, or clint told me naomi said to him, or w/e.
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Sally Holmes Bottom line, if Hailey was wearing both while playing XBox, and David found one at Clint's and Naomi has admitted to this, well then, one question, one answer!
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Maria Nelson You mean where they have those huge holes in the earlobe? I'm just confused. Were these earrings designed to stretch the hole? How big were these earrings? It would help to have a picture of them.
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Diane StJean Wait. Hailey was home with Billie on the 26th. Billie didn't notice if she was wearing big red earrings? And how can she change her statement on this? NG transcripts are not made up . Billie said she was NOT wearing the earrings. After 8 months if we, people not related to Hailey remember this, how can Billie not?
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Billie Dunn Naomi told David that Hailey took them off at her house.
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Diane StJean Does anyone know what time the pics on X box were taken?
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Angela Brooks Howell Billie....did you get to meet Tinker?
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Billie Dunn No wouldnt notice the SMALL red hoops gone . She wore them everyday. Again IM sure i said that bcuz clint told me she took them out. Puple will take anything the way they want 2
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Sally Holmes Do we have the money to get a PI to find the answer to this one question? Whether or not Hailey had one or two or no earrings while she was playing XBox?
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Billie Dunn They r not huge hoops they r just like the 1s i wear,have u noticed them? Except hers r red. They r just a little thicker than most earings
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Maria Nelson What date did Shawn purchase the new gauge earrings for her?
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Angela Brooks Howell Did you get to meet Tinker?
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Kay Sharp Young i really think parents could demand a copy of xbox pics since they were last known pics.....are there any more Christmas pics...we've only seen two
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Billie Dunn Idk tinker,who is that? But my my memory is Crap now after all I`ve been thru ya know ;)
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ I believe the earrings looked similar to these: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Billie Dunn Shawns mom took only 2 or 3 pics at Xmas. I`d love 2 see the pics,shes my child.
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Angela Brooks Howell Tinker is the new police chief in C-city....known him for 20 yrs good one to have on your side.
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Diane StJean Good question Kay. Why start a journal on 12/25?
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Maria Nelson ‎@Angela: How long has he been in office? Do you know what date he started his position?
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ Maria, Naomi has stated that she found earring and put it up. She has stated that David found the other one later. So I don't think one was vacuumed up based on Naomi's statements.
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Billie Dunn My phones not letting me open the link right now, but i`ll tell u when i do.
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Billie Dunn Carrie & brad Dennis suggested it,i have dates of what happened when.
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Diane StJean Also DMZ, I thought Naomi gave David that earring and he brought it home to Billie. I wish Beanie's documents were open because everything was saved there.
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Billie Dunn Actually Alot of ppl suggested it
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ There aren't sharp edges that would make you remove them, though - they pretty much lie flat against a pillow.
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Mike Sparacin Cynthia!
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Anna Parker Billie will LE not let you see the pics or have a copy?
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Angela Brooks Howell Double Cynthia!!!!
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Sally Holmes And, Billie gave the earring to LE. She answered that question for me. This was one of the many questions someone found it necessary to turn them over to PH.
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Kristen Jones From the same NG transcript....why after they released this info did the retract this info??? Did LE tell them to? Did someone release to much info? Makes you go hmmm --->

GRACE: We are taking your calls live. For those of you just joining us, simultaneous searches of landfills going on today. There has been a hit in one of the landfill searches related to Hailey Dunn.

Back to Rupa Mikkilineni. Give me a recap.

MIKKILINENI: Right, Nancy. We know that two landfills here in the Colorado City area, the local landfill in Colorado City and the Snyder landfill, have been revisited again today, this afternoon. Right now as I speak, there are searchers, police investigators, cadaver dogs, scent dogs in Snyder at the landfill searching for more evidence.

And the reason for this -- they`re back again for a reason, Nancy. There is a strategy, police have told me, and they`ve said that they found today -- tonight, they confirmed to us that they did find physical evidence pertaining to Hailey Dunn in another landfill. And it`s what`s made them come back to these landfills to re-search an area specifically along the days that Hailey Dunn went missing, on the 27th, a timeframe before and after the 27th.
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Maria Nelson My two questions:
1. What date did Hailey get her ears pierced?
2. What date did Shawn buy the 14-16 gauge earrings?
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ I'm really trying to get all the earring stories together in this thread. Not what we think happened to the earrings, not what we think we remember about the earrings, but what has actually been stated by witnesses as to the earrings. Where they were, whether we can determine if Hailey was wearing them on the night of 12/26, how one or both of them ended up under Naomi's couch and when they got there.
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Diane StJean DMZ, Billie herself on NG stated she was not wearing them. Denise posted the transcript.
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Susan Draper-Cousin Billie, keep hanging in there! Did LE ever indicate to you what specifically they thought or hoped they would find while searching the landfills?
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ Other things can go in new threads, if you want, but what I was hoping for was sourced statements about the earrings and family statements like Mrs. Birdwell's at the top of the thread and Billie's statements here. Don't judge me, I just kinda need to be able to look at the earring stuff by itself for awhile :) Sorry I am mentally challenged today :)
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ Pics of the earrings are also fine and discussion about those since they're relevant to the earrings :)
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Maria Nelson Well Billie is implying Naomi is lying because Hailey would NEVER take them off so it would help to know when Hailey got her ears pierced and when she started wearing the uncomfortable-to-begin-with gauged earrings.
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Ske Od ‎@ diane's statement,
naomi and clint and LE got together and made up a story and billie accepted it and if you watch a news vid the day before that NG show, billie did not know anything, after everyone convinced her, billie thought maybe hailey did not have them in...... just saying.
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Mike Sparacin Now I've seen it all!
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Ske Od i mean really, clint and naomi must be right if the one was found so obviously billie was the one mistaken...... right....?
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Ske Od and then LE claims billie changed her story so she is guilty
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Billie Dunn ‎1st they lied 2 me & said they were just looking for our trash,maybe Hailey threw something away with a clue on it,isome writing, later they came back &said we were looking 4 a body!
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ LE has the Xbox. We believe there are pictures of Hailey on it from the night of the 26th for the Kinect. We do not know whether Hailey was wearing the 14 or 16 gauge earrings at the time. Because LE took the Xbox, they have the pictures as evidence so we have no access to them to be sure. It was unclear whether Hailey was wearing the earrings in the surveillance video.
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Ske Od its the same story for the hairdresser, just because naomi and security place hailey at store on one day, does not mean the hairdressers receipt and appointment book and the client are all wrong. perhaps hailey went somewhere the next day also..... eeefffing duh?
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Anna Parker DMZ I am trying to go with you here.Can anybody get pics from LE?
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ IF and only IF Hailey was wearing the earrings on the night of the 26th, they are relevant to the timeline. If she was not it's a moot point and it doesn't matter much because Naomi has stated Hailey took them out and left them at her house, where they apparently ended up under the couch and one or both of them was later recovered by Naomi and/or David. David took one to Billie who gave it to LE.
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Anna Parker Sorry I didnt see your post above.
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ Sorry for all the comments, I think I almost have my brain around this now :)
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Ske Od yeh, what billie said, LE lied. but billie told NG they were looking for trash hoping for a note or something.... see.
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Angela Brooks Howell Well Billie I'm sorry you didn't get to meet the new police chief while you were that would have been advantageous for you!
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Billie Dunn Man i Cant get my comment 2 post, me & clint described her wearing them 4 fliers to be made
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Sally Holmes The pics are important! And Billie, you answered my question asking whether Hailey owned a camera. You said, no, no camera. Whose camera is Hailey holding in the pic above?
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Billie Dunn Cant see it. Could be any1s. I have no reason 2 say Hailey didnt have a camera.
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Billie Dunn I wouldve talked 2 the new chief,unless he acted like the rest. But no never got 2 meet him
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Billie Dunn Cuz Hes silly!
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Billie Dunn Well IM outa here before the Billie bashing starts again. Have fun. Lol
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Kay Sharp Young it shouldnt make a flying flip how they act, this is your daughter..get over the police being mean to you and shawn
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Billie Dunn Ive only seen it posing 4 camera tho.
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Shameka Johnson lol?? I must have missed it, what was so funny??
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Angela Brooks Howell Billie please don't assume he's gonna "be mean" like the rest its not his style...and lumping him w/the rest can't make you any head way! And I agree w/Kay!
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Billie Dunn It does matter! They have code of ethics 2 follow & need 2 conduct a real investigation &r MY DAUGHTER! Cuz this ain't cutting it
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Shameka Johnson But Billie you get mad at LE for not doing there job, but you have moved to Austin, you are not even here for your daughter, you are not even trying to stay up to date with them,and asking questions.
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Tallulah Marlboro Can we see Hailey's ears in the photos of her with Billie and Shawn on the sofa on Christmas, I think it was? It would help to see what they look like on.
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Billie Dunn Well i still Dont know Whos hoping for the best or who wants the worst. Sry. I just Dont have time 2 defend them all over & over & over
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Maria Nelson My questions:
1. What date did Hailey get her ears pierced?
2. What date did Shawn give the red 14-16 gauge hoop earrings to Hailey?
3. What date did Hailey start wearing the red earrings?
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Kay Sharp Young you said in last interview (last week) you havent talked to them in months, so how do know whats going on
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Amanda Nunez-Diaz when you say cuz he is silly are you talking about shawn and his grin in the media??? How could anyone be silly at a time like this? is it because he is mhmr...I know that is how some process emotions???
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Billie Dunn I have always & will always be there 4 my daughter. I worked with le 4 a long time until i couldnt take it anymore. I couldnt see her earlobes in the Xmas pics
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April Wehba straight from NS mouth, she found the one earring and put it on shelf, David later came over and seen it and took it to Billie. so the same earring and other one is still missing.
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Amanda Nunez-Diaz Also, did you not get news of the new cheif in town? Maybe you should go meet with him and discuss what can be done now...start fresh...new chief , new eyes...new attitude with all parties involved..
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Amanda Nunez-Diaz You have a journal? Well since we are discussing and trying to get to the bottom of things and you are willing to take the time to answer our questions, can you get the journal...it would help a lot since you have it written down and won't have to go off of memory...
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ Anna, no. We cannot get pics from LE unless they choose to release them. Those pics are evidence.
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Angela Brooks Howell I think Tinker would love to meet w/you Billie it would better help him get a 1st hand perspective!
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Tallulah Marlboro Thanks, Billie. Thank you for answering questions.
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Amanda Nunez-Diaz Maybe next time you answer questions you will bring the journal?
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Billie Dunn We all may feel bad for smiling after haileys been gone but we have all smiled a little anyway. Le Doesnt answer my ?s. Its a waste.
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Angela Brooks Howell Yes the journal was a great idea Billie...did you have some foresight to have started it on the 25th?
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Kay Sharp Young all i'm saying, is that you (billie) have an opportunity to work with new LE. You and Clint need to get your asses (your words) down to his office and have a complete list of your complaints. don't go in with the attitude that he is like the others. He's new, he would love to prove he can do his job. give him a chance
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Billie Dunn Maybe if i feel like finding it : )
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Shameka Johnson If you want your daughter back you have to work with LE, they are the ones working the case. You have to stay active, you have to stay on their butts, you have to be close so that you can go to the office and talk to people. Going against LE will not get you anywhere, and it sure is not going to help get Hailey home. if you have nothing to hide then go talk to them, talk to them about what you want to see happen instead of strangers on facebook. She is your child be her voice in Colorado City not Austin.
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Maria Nelson ‎@Mike: Do you think it's wise to come here and insult Billie while she is so willing to answer questions? You are biting the hand that is feeding you.
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Anna Parker Evidence of what, that she was there playing XBOX? I am sorry but I am confused about the XBOX I guess.
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Angela Brooks Howell A waste??? A new chief w/new eyes and an unbiased opinion? A waste? Waste or not its worth a chance! Anything for Hailey is worth a chance!
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Amanda Nunez-Diaz Oh I didn't know it was lost...sorry, I just assumed you would have it out and be going over it to make sure you didn't miss anything while answering questions...
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Billie Dunn No i started the journal later..I am more than willing 2 try 2 speak with him 2.
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Amanda Nunez-Diaz I was talking about the smirking that he did in his interviews SHORTLY after Hailey went missing.
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Amanda Nunez-Diaz That is why I asked If he was indeed MHMR like you had stated in a 911 call.
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Amanda Nunez-Diaz Is he?
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Amanda Nunez-Diaz If so then maybe some would understand his smirking to the world on national tv while giving an interview that pertained to your missing daughter.
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ Where I'm going with the earrings is this: if Hailey was wearing them on the night of the 26th then she did make it to Clint and Naomi's on the 27th. That being the case, we then have to look at the eyewitness statements from that date, and it does narrow the timeline considerably. If we don't know, we don't know.
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Kay Sharp Young if you feel like finding it? omg I'm done
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Angela Brooks Howell Glad to hear that Billie he's a good man and you should find out first hand before you consider him a waste. My bad I may have read it wrong I thought you started on the 25th...whew that makes me feel better!
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Billie Dunn No body says anything when i am submitting ?s over & over. The new chief could be good. Idk i Dont know him at all. U[ ASSumed wrong. Its not lost,put up. I went back to the 25th. Bcuz i remembered it. Later! ...maybe
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Angela Brooks Howell Huh??????
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Billie Dunn I will give him a chance. I need all the help i can get 2 find Hailey. Shes worth every nasty hateful name & word i hear.
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Ske Od everyone suggested you start a journal, like its a good thing.... it's now evidence they can and may use against you... burn it.
like this, your honor he said he wasnt speeding, well that just proves he was. they will use it against you.
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Billie Dunn Sorry bye-bye... I went back to the 25th. 2 start the journal,bcuz i could remember Alot from that day.
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Angela Brooks Howell Good Billie and you're right on she is worth it. I can assure he wouldn't call you nasty names!
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Angela Brooks Howell A journal is a good idea.maybe stating you started a journal going back to the 25th would have made more sense and been less alarming than "I started a journal on the 25th" do you underdstand that?
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Billie Dunn My lawyer has a copy 2. Theres good important facts in Here.I Dont mean 2 bash the new chief, i Cant judge some1 Idk. But i do have 2 get back on my home page 4 a while
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Billie Dunn Sure Dont. Thats the 1st date i put in there, so to me, it starts the 25th.
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Billie Dunn Later ske & private! Ttyl.
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Billie Dunn Shoot sorry Angela i keep getting u confused with another 1 who posts, i am sorry. Bye
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Angela Brooks Howell Bye
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Sara Perry Wow this whole post looks like a massive train wreck. Geesh. I will try to make it through again.
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Chance Nunn sorry, i just can't hang. adios
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Rachel Ferriera I wanted to put this out there, seeing as my ears are gauged to a 1/2 inch so I have some experience. The red hoops, gauges, or horse shoes, would be either a size 14 or 16 which is the next size up from a piercing, and from what I am understanding, that's all Billie would allow. The type of earrings she was wearing could have been uncomfortable to sleep on because they are metal, and the balls could press into the side of your head. And if she hadn't had them done long, they could still be sore. This did originate in Africa. Good Angela. Hope this is helpful to anyone not familiar to the style. I wear bone tapers gauging my second hole's and they do get painful at night when laying on them, pillow or not. :-)
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Rachel Ferriera Good catch angela* sorry
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Angela Brooks Howell Thanks Rachel!!!!
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Amanda Nunez-Diaz Billi so you are saying shawn was smiling to be silly during the interview pertaining to Hailey?
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Hailey Dunn Case: The DMZ I'm finding this thread very confusing. It seems to have moved all over the place, and Billie's left, so there's no point continuing to badger the witness ;) Maybe some of these questions could be asked in a later thread. I don't think Billie is responsible for explaining why Shawn smiles. If Shawn shows up you can ask him.
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Karen Sealey The bit where Billie said that Hailey didnt have a camera...Hailey DID have a ipiod and on my ipod at least you can take photos on it and upload them to your pc.
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Post by sdillard on Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:16 pm

I was just looking at some photos of SA and BD at the "vigil" or whatever it was. I saw the house in the background. What is it they say about criminals returning to the scene of the crime? Like an arsonist as part of the crowd watching a house burn.... I was also reviewing an interview on the Nacy Grace show, where BD was asked about LE or investigators looking underneath the house. It was s simple yes or no question, and I find the amount of extra info in the answer intriguing. She talks about CD boarding up a hole or something to keep dogs from getting underneath the house, and goes on to further say that SHE knows how to get under there and would be willing to show LE how. I have said before and will say again: LE needs to go thru that house , not the contents, but take it apart board by board if necessary. I had mentioned the space at the top of the house where the vent is, but the more I think about how much she added to the yes or no answer, I think it would be wise to look under it also, and now that it is vacant, there should be no reason not to. Seeing as it is owned by CD, seems to me like he would cooperate. Does anyone know if LE has done anymore searching as far as the house goes? If Hailey is, in fact, dead, then I would put my money on at least evidence being in or under the physical house.
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Post by gnreed on Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:00 pm

You make a good point Dillard. I wish we knew if LE had ever searched underneath the house. They were interested in it for some reason.
With bird season here, I was expecting someone to find evidence while hunting out in the pastures. It could still happen as I have seen a large number of hunters.
I went against my own rules and read a few Facebook pages. CTCZ (???) is making calls. She has been posting a lot.

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Gneed do you have the FB link again? When I dumped my cookies it got lost in the shuffle. TIA
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Slys,

This is the one I used.

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gnreed wrote:You make a good point Dillard. I wish we knew if LE had ever searched underneath the house. They were interested in it for some reason.
With bird season here, I was expecting someone to find evidence while hunting out in the pastures. It could still happen as I have seen a large number of hunters.
I went against my own rules and read a few Facebook pages. CTCZ (???) is making calls. She has been posting a lot.

It would be good to have confirmation that LE searched all of the house and under the house completely. I sure hope they did. I always thought Billie and Shawn took things out of the house before and just after Hailey went missing (possibly cameras, computer, porn, the couch)... But, they did leave the box of tru crime print outs and the memory stick in the house, so maybe there is some other incriminating evidence there. Billie did seem to be looking back at the house a few times during that weird presser.
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Post by Guest on Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:05 pm

LOL truthbtold. I don't remember her initials either. Looks like since LE did not press charges for the porn Billie friends went back to being friendly with her. Never mind Billie and Shawn are POI in the disappearance of Hailey. I believe Shawn did something horrible to Hailey.
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Special two-hour live broadcast of the clues, revelations, "rumors" and blockbuster information in the Hailey Dunn disappearance case. This is a show you do not want to miss.

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Clint Dunn, in a surprise interview (meaning, we didn’t plan for him or his mother-in-law to be on) on The Ellis County Observer Radio Show (“The ECO Show”) on Aug. 18, said God keeps telling him that “Shawn Adkins had nothing to do” with the disappearance or murder of his 13-year-old daughter, Hailey, on Dec. 27, 2010. Dunn made the remarks, as well as told listeners that the FBI and Texas Rangers told him more than 108,000 pornography images found in the possession of Billie Dunn or Adkins were child pornography.

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I haven't listened to either of the shows that I posted links for. Enter at your own risk.

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Post by Boston_Lady on Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:53 pm

BJ wrote:I haven't listened to either of the shows that I posted links for. Enter at your own risk.

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Peter Hyatt was going to be on this show but after he did statement analysis on Billie Dunn's posts on Facebook - I think this was Friday or Saturday - Peter received some very threatening messages aimed at him and his family. He is not going to be on the show based on that type of audience and I can't blame him. I also was called some really nasty names that he ended up deleting. They were more than nasty... vulgar. And my guess is it was either Billie & Shawn or people very close to them. Billie used the term "vagina" when referring to Peter Hyatt. That word was used in a message to me along with some 4 letter words. Based on seeing that Billie used it that day, I question who posted it. I think Peter Hyatt has blocked specific IP addresses now so they can't post.

Of course remember Billie Dunn has claimed she doesn't have a computer and doesn't go online. Per her usual misleading self, she neglected to say "But I do have a phone and can read and post online" Lies
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Post by gnreed on Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:23 am

Typical thuggish behavior is being displayed by BD and her followers.
She and SA are the people responsible for Hailey's being gone and what do they do? Trash LE and attempt to get everyone to turn against LE and others such as PH.
SA and BD had time to clean and remove evidence related to this case before reporting Hailey missing.
Now it's easy to blame LE and others.
NO. The persons to blame are BD and SA.
BD's followers may grow in numbers but the facts remain the same.
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Post by Boston_Lady on Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:56 pm

gnreed wrote:Typical thuggish behavior is being displayed by BD and her followers.
She and SA are the people responsible for Hailey's being gone and what do they do? Trash LE and attempt to get everyone to turn against LE and others such as PH.
SA and BD had time to clean and remove evidence related to this case before reporting Hailey missing.
Now it's easy to blame LE and others.
NO. The persons to blame are BD and SA.
BD's followers may grow in numbers but the facts remain the same.
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Hey Gn... good to hear from you. Leading the push about LE being ineffective is none other than Courtney Guetteirez - czgtz . She called the new police chief, Tinker Owens, and pushed him to get Hailey on the FBI list of missing persons. She threatened that if this was not done, she would go to the Attorney General. Evidently, he doesn't/didn't know how to do this and asked her to give him time. He did follow up with her, per her entry on FB today, and is still pursuing this. CG also said that he does not seem to be up on anything regarding the Hailey case, which I find very hard to believe since that was one of the first things he addressed. Is he dumb or playing dumb? CG stated that she is happy that he seems willing to listen to her and be open minded. What is wrong with this picture?

Where are the parents in this fight???? Does Clint pick up the phone? Nope. He waits for them to get in touch with him. Does Billie pick up the phone? Nope and she closed off any talks with them unless through her lawyer. Why are friends doing all this work for Hailey ?

Family and friends are pushing very hard to make this a stranger abduction. If Billie Jean didn't lie about everything that would be a viable assumption but I can't get past all the lies. And she continues to lie when answering questions on FB. Although, she has not been on - that I can see- for the past two days. I think she saw that some people were not buying her crap and hanging on her every word and she's retreated.
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Post by Boston_Lady on Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:00 pm

I have a general question about LE protocol. Carrie McGonagle is stating, on Facebook, that she and the searchers in the special meeting they had the day before Hailey's 8 mos vigil that they were told that no child porn was found in the 32nd district. Is that something that is told to civilians?? Carrie is not a lawyer and has no family associated with Billie or Clint. Why would LE reveal something as big as this to them?

And what contradicts this is that in the news, Sheriff Toombs stated the investigation into the CP is not completed and they have not received any results.

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Post by gnreed on Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:29 pm

In my opinion, LE told them NOTHING. I think the BD followers are attempting to gain support for BD by making LE look worse than they really are.

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Post by Boston_Lady on Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:16 am

I went into the chatroom for the ECO blog talk radio program tonite. It was a blood fest for anyone who didn't believe Billie & Shawn were victims of big bad LE. I was actually accused of being Peter Hyatt's wife because I was sticking up for him. Ridiculous and stupid. They hate Peter Hyatt and were out to rip him apart. Of course because Peter wasn't there to defend himself. I will say that Joey Dauben, the host, was very fair. He didn't let them turn the show into just a rant against Peter. He asked some hard questions but he sent the list of questions to Carrie and Billie prior to the show so they couldn't accuse him of a surprise attack.

Billie spoke and was her typical defensive self. She's a victim. LE lied. I said in the chatroom "So LE lied, but Billie is the one who is convicted of lying". And they did not like being confronted with facts but everything was shot down with "Those are lies" . So all the past interviews, affidavits and you tubes are lies...Everyone except Shawn & Billie have lied according to their supporters. It's twisted, really.

Billie has been able to convince them that she is nothing but a victim who is trying to find her daughter and everyone is out to get her....

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Post by jeanne1807 on Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:40 am

Billie can scream and shout and now she has a backer in Carrie McGonagle. I told you all posts ago I don't like Carrie or her way of doing things.

After reading the above...I like her even less.

Carrie has in mind she can bull her way through all of this. She can say anything she wants and then stand there defiant and wait for LE to "clear it up".

And Carrie has had a good role model in Cindy Anthony who has never been charged with anything. No matter how she acted in court, depositions or on the street. Cindy set a new low for the respect shown to the court system and LE.

I keep going back to Misty Crosslin. I hope and pray that Billie joins her soon.
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Post by sdillard on Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:40 pm

It is my opinion that truth is (most of the time) simple and always forthright. This case nor the people involved are either. Make no mistake who I am or what I say: There is still too much manure covering the truth; I dont know what LE thinks they were doing by postponing any arrest(s), maybe it WAS some plan they had, but with the main suspect having moved away, and free to leave the country if he so wishes, along with the MOTHER for God's sake who failed a poly, well, call me trashing LE if you want- they failed. It was reported that at the time of the LDT, it was a TRUTHFUL statement made by SA that Hailey was in Scurry County. Hmmmm....why did they not follow up and ask him "where" in Scurry County? Why did they not immediately go and look there? LE dropped the ball there. It is also concerning me how fires broke out in the area where SA and BD lived, and fires recently broke out in the area where they supposedly live now. Does anyone else see a common denominator here?
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Post by raine1953 on Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:13 pm

I agree
I wish I didn't but there's not been one arrest unless you count the time BD was arrested for lying to LE, big deal. All the BIG talk about CP and I think all it was talk. It's probably adult porn, 18 and over. OR part of LE has dirtied their hands with CP themselves and it's being swept under the rug so not to reveal those involved that they don't want known.
Over eight months later and no arrests for Hailey's disappearance? Bull.
There's a reason none of us know as to why there's not been one arrest and I bet we never do find out.
Sorry, I do think LE bungled this.
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Post by sdillard on Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:17 pm

I was watching an old series today starring Boris Karloff, called "the Veil", and in between acts he said something to the effect of God's laws in the really old days required "an eye for an eye", but our laws are man made, and without proof, they are most helpless. I have to agree with the man. We have laws, laws are broken, but without tons of proof aside from catching the perp red handed, well, what can you do? And what is the point of having laws if they can not be properly enforced? They can not and will not ever be enforced if criminals can turn nooses into loopholes that they can slip right through. LE is no exception. Sometimes the only difference between heinous criminals and LE is the piece of metal pinned to the shirt.
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Post by raine1953 on Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:43 pm

Colorado City Cops: We Told Dad Hailey Dunn Was Dead to ‘Get a Reaction Out of Him’

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:50 pm

I thankfully am not in this horrific mess but I think I would also be extremely pissed off if LE told me my grandchild was already dead w/out some proof...especially to get a reaction out of me??? WTF????? Did Clint take a poly? I do NOT suspect him at all!

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Wrapitup wrote:I thankfully am not in this horrific mess but I think I would also be extremely pissed off if LE told me my grandchild was already dead w/out some proof...especially to get a reaction out of me??? WTF????? Did Clint take a poly? I do NOT suspect him at all!
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Post by Boston_Lady on Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:22 pm

Please keep in mind that what has been said to Clint by LE is what is being reported by Clint. And what was reported to Joey of the Ellis Observer was reported by Carrie McGonagle. In otherwords, I would like LE to tell us. The other two have an agenda.
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With all due respect, I'd like LE to tell us anything besides 'we're still working on it'.
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