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Jose Baez on Dr. Drew Pinsky's show in May 2012/ Jeff Ashton and defense attorney Cheney Mason are scheduled to speak about the case May 31st at a forum at Pace University in New York with live streaming.
Jose Baez’s book on the Casey Anthony case won’t be out until July. But Baez has started his promotion in earnest.
He has talked to People magazine, and he visits Dr. Drew Pinsky’s show at 9 p.m. Monday on HLN.
Baez’s book is titled “Presumed Guilty, Casey Anthony: The Inside Story.” Baez has said this is his story and that Anthony will not profit from the book. In July, she was acquitted of murder in her daughter Caylee’s death.
What should Pinsky ask Baez?
Zenaida Gonzalez’s defamation suit against Anthony was in the headlines Thursday. WFTV-Channel 9’s Kathi Belich asked if there could be a settlement before the trial starts in January.
Charles Greene, Anthony’s attorney, said that Gonzalez’s team doesn’t want an apology. Gonzalez’s attorney Keith Mitnik addressed some questions to Anthony: “When did you get sorry? When did you start to be sorry? What took you so long to say you’re sorry?”
WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer asked: “What’s the one thing we know about Casey? That the word ’settlement’ is not in her vocabulary.”
We also know she will remain in the headlines.
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He has talked to People magazine, and he visits Dr. Drew Pinsky’s show at 9 p.m. Monday on HLN.
Baez’s book is titled “Presumed Guilty, Casey Anthony: The Inside Story.” Baez has said this is his story and that Anthony will not profit from the book. In July, she was acquitted of murder in her daughter Caylee’s death.
What should Pinsky ask Baez?
Zenaida Gonzalez’s defamation suit against Anthony was in the headlines Thursday. WFTV-Channel 9’s Kathi Belich asked if there could be a settlement before the trial starts in January.
Charles Greene, Anthony’s attorney, said that Gonzalez’s team doesn’t want an apology. Gonzalez’s attorney Keith Mitnik addressed some questions to Anthony: “When did you get sorry? When did you start to be sorry? What took you so long to say you’re sorry?”
WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer asked: “What’s the one thing we know about Casey? That the word ’settlement’ is not in her vocabulary.”
We also know she will remain in the headlines.
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Re: Jose Baez on Dr. Drew Pinsky's show in May 2012/ Jeff Ashton and defense attorney Cheney Mason are scheduled to speak about the case May 31st at a forum at Pace University in New York with live streaming.
WTH?? This is allegedly an excerpt from his book:
Posted by: sweetiepie2 | Saturday, May 12, 2012 at 1:12 PM
TRJ. More Baez book excerpts. Only 295 pages to go!
I probably will watch..can't help myself.
Posted by: sweetiepie2 | Saturday, May 12, 2012 at 1:12 PM
TRJ. More Baez book excerpts. Only 295 pages to go!
“Many people thought that it was cruel and unusual punishment for Casey to remain in jail for the three years before the trial. But I’m here to tell you that she thrived on it. For the first time in Casey’s life she had real structure. She was told when to eat, exercise, bath, what to wear, and when to sleep. Her bowels became regular and, if it hadn’t been for her fans filling her canteen bank, she likely would’ve lost weight.
It was weird too. The first time I saw them put the cuffs on Casey she seemed to enjoy it like she’d used cuffs before. My first thought was is this some sort of past life regression? I was having trouble finding real experts to say what I wanted them to say. So, for the first time it crossed my mind to use psychic experts. I told my team that when jury deliberations arrived to watch for fluffy New Age Shirley Maclean types who are incaple of judging others. If we could somehow plant the idea that Casey was say, the reincarnation of Cleopatra we could guarantee at least a hung jury.
I probably will watch..can't help myself.
Re: Jose Baez on Dr. Drew Pinsky's show in May 2012/ Jeff Ashton and defense attorney Cheney Mason are scheduled to speak about the case May 31st at a forum at Pace University in New York with live streaming.
He is crazier than I thought he was!! "Her bowels became regular"!? They discussed this!? Both are nuttier than fruitcakes!!
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Re: Jose Baez on Dr. Drew Pinsky's show in May 2012/ Jeff Ashton and defense attorney Cheney Mason are scheduled to speak about the case May 31st at a forum at Pace University in New York with live streaming.
Way more info than any of us need to know. I'm gonna try hard to forget Bozo shared this with the world.lisette wrote:He is crazier than I thought he was!! "Her bowels became regular"!? They discussed this!? Both are nuttier than fruitcakes!!
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Re: Jose Baez on Dr. Drew Pinsky's show in May 2012/ Jeff Ashton and defense attorney Cheney Mason are scheduled to speak about the case May 31st at a forum at Pace University in New York with live streaming.
And, that's just one excerpt. Can you imagine what else he's written?
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Marcia Clark on Why Fiction Is Way Stranger Than Truth
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By Marcia Clark
Because it has to be. True crime is almost never strange. True crime goes something like this: Joey gets mad at Stewie for poaching his girlfriend. Joey gets drunk and plugs Stewie. Or like this: Leo’s a meth addict and he needs money to buy his fix, so he goes into a liquor store and robs the owner at gunpoint. The only twist you might find is if the owner pulls a gun and Leo kills him.
Exciting, huh? Right. I can hear you snoring. That’s true crime. And when a real case captures public attention, it isn’t – as people so often say when there’s a high profile case – because truth is stranger than fiction. Because truth isn’t stranger than fiction. It’s just true, and that’s what fascinates.
Case in point: Casey Anthony. That case had a significant following, but were the facts really so strange? A young woman kills her baby so she could live the Bella Vida and dance around in a wet T shirt. It’s morally reprehensible, cruel, depraved, but strange? No, Virginia, it isn’t.
Mothers who get rid of babies they don’t want to raise is not, sorry to say, an exotic crime. Matter of fact, it happens frequently enough that the Los Angeles District Attorney’s Office has a special unit, Family Violence, devoted to the prosecution of mothers (and other family members) like that. And while it’s true that Casey Anthony was a pretty white girl and not a crack addict on welfare, that isn’t so strange either. Other pretty white girls have killed their babies. So why did Casey Anthony turn into a national obsession?
In part, because of her lawyer’s incendiary claim – never backed up by a shred of evidence – that she was molested by her father, and that he was the true culprit. But mostly because this was a true story that, thanks to the hungry maw of the twenty-four news cycle, we could watch unfold.
That woman sitting at counsel table…that man on the witness stand…all real. The facts themselves were a lot less strange than most works of fiction – certainly much less strange than the most successful fiction. Like for instance, “Girl With the Dragon Tattoo,” or “Silence of the Lambs.” Those are strange stories. But Casey Anthony? Meh.
But that’s the thing with true crime. The most mundane story is instantly fascinating if you start with the words, “this is a true story.”
Fiction can’t get away with that. It doesn’t have the magical promise of “true story” to fall back on.
In the mystery/thriller genre in particular, crimes have to be big, shocking and packed with gnarly twists to hold readers’ attention. But even literary fiction tends to focus on ultra strange characters:
Nabokov in “Lolita,” for instance.
That’s why no successful fiction writer tells the story of how Joey shot Stewie. He or she knows we’d all be snoring before we finished reading the jacket cover. Now, make Joey a flesh-eating serial killer with a genius IQ…
Marcia Clark’s new book is “Guilt by Degrees.” Clark is a former Los Angeles deputy district attorney who was the lead prosecutor on the O.J. Simpson case. She is a frequent media commentator and columnist on legal issues. She lives in Los Angeles.
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By Marcia Clark
Because it has to be. True crime is almost never strange. True crime goes something like this: Joey gets mad at Stewie for poaching his girlfriend. Joey gets drunk and plugs Stewie. Or like this: Leo’s a meth addict and he needs money to buy his fix, so he goes into a liquor store and robs the owner at gunpoint. The only twist you might find is if the owner pulls a gun and Leo kills him.
Exciting, huh? Right. I can hear you snoring. That’s true crime. And when a real case captures public attention, it isn’t – as people so often say when there’s a high profile case – because truth is stranger than fiction. Because truth isn’t stranger than fiction. It’s just true, and that’s what fascinates.
Case in point: Casey Anthony. That case had a significant following, but were the facts really so strange? A young woman kills her baby so she could live the Bella Vida and dance around in a wet T shirt. It’s morally reprehensible, cruel, depraved, but strange? No, Virginia, it isn’t.
Mothers who get rid of babies they don’t want to raise is not, sorry to say, an exotic crime. Matter of fact, it happens frequently enough that the Los Angeles District Attorney’s Office has a special unit, Family Violence, devoted to the prosecution of mothers (and other family members) like that. And while it’s true that Casey Anthony was a pretty white girl and not a crack addict on welfare, that isn’t so strange either. Other pretty white girls have killed their babies. So why did Casey Anthony turn into a national obsession?
In part, because of her lawyer’s incendiary claim – never backed up by a shred of evidence – that she was molested by her father, and that he was the true culprit. But mostly because this was a true story that, thanks to the hungry maw of the twenty-four news cycle, we could watch unfold.
That woman sitting at counsel table…that man on the witness stand…all real. The facts themselves were a lot less strange than most works of fiction – certainly much less strange than the most successful fiction. Like for instance, “Girl With the Dragon Tattoo,” or “Silence of the Lambs.” Those are strange stories. But Casey Anthony? Meh.
But that’s the thing with true crime. The most mundane story is instantly fascinating if you start with the words, “this is a true story.”
Fiction can’t get away with that. It doesn’t have the magical promise of “true story” to fall back on.
In the mystery/thriller genre in particular, crimes have to be big, shocking and packed with gnarly twists to hold readers’ attention. But even literary fiction tends to focus on ultra strange characters:
Nabokov in “Lolita,” for instance.
That’s why no successful fiction writer tells the story of how Joey shot Stewie. He or she knows we’d all be snoring before we finished reading the jacket cover. Now, make Joey a flesh-eating serial killer with a genius IQ…
Marcia Clark’s new book is “Guilt by Degrees.” Clark is a former Los Angeles deputy district attorney who was the lead prosecutor on the O.J. Simpson case. She is a frequent media commentator and columnist on legal issues. She lives in Los Angeles.
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Casey Anthony: Jose Baez plays the big tease on HLN in promoting book
by Hal Boedeker
Jose Baez gained a national platform, via HLN Monday night, to promote his new book. His hour visit to “Dr. Drew” amounted to a big tease for “Presumed Guilty,” his book about the Casey Anthony trial.
He wasn’t sharing a lot of details, following publisher’s orders for a book that will be out in July. He offered variations on the statement “I talk about it in the book.”
Defense attorney Baez said the book is told from his point of view, and he shares personal experiences, such as his son’s birth during the trial. But the case, not Baez, will be the lure for readers. In July, Anthony was acquitted of murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.
“This case was never about Casey’s behavior. It was about how Caylee died,” Baez told Dr. Drew Pinsky. To his critics, Baez said his role was be “an advocate, a defender — it wasn’t to sit there and judge someone.”
There was no evidence of murder, so the case became “a speculation spectacle,” Baez said.
He said the public’s impression of Anthony “is completely different than the real Casey.” He said that Anthony was very grateful to the people who helped save her life.
But his goal in writing the book, he said, wasn’t to change the public’s view of Anthony. He said they always had a “very professional” relationship.
Baez said he knew Anthony “would be able to do this probation standing on her head” — a comment that left an interesting image. He described Anthony was “an ideal probationer.”
Baez predicted that “everything cover to cover” would be surprising because his point of view has never been out there. How could any book live up to that promotion?
Pinsky wanted a detail. Baez, playing the tease, hinted at evidence that never made it to trial.
Pinsky reserved as much time for viewers to ask questions. One wanted to know if Anthony is mentally ill.
Baez pointed to “some issues” with “the entire family” and said Casey’s lying about going to a nonexistent job for two years was “phenomenal.”
Baez said he was confident in the case, but not confident that he would win because the state “had the entire public opinion on their side.” Baez added, “I wasn’t cocky in the sense we were going to win. We were very worried and concerned for Casey all along.”
A caller wanted to know about Baez’s opening statement that George Anthony had sexually abused his daughter. “The jury was free to believe George Anthony or not,” Baez said. “I cross-examined him on the sexual abuse questions. By his reaction, they could believe it or not.”
Baez also told the caller: “We completed our case in a complete and ethical manner.”
In the book, Baez talks about losing six helicopters and media trucks on the night Anthony was released from jail.
Baez said in the book he tried to put everything out there so readers can draw their own conclusions. He said writing the book had been therapeutic because it allowed him to move beyond talking in sound bites.
But will readers find it therapeutic?
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Jose Baez gained a national platform, via HLN Monday night, to promote his new book. His hour visit to “Dr. Drew” amounted to a big tease for “Presumed Guilty,” his book about the Casey Anthony trial.
He wasn’t sharing a lot of details, following publisher’s orders for a book that will be out in July. He offered variations on the statement “I talk about it in the book.”
Defense attorney Baez said the book is told from his point of view, and he shares personal experiences, such as his son’s birth during the trial. But the case, not Baez, will be the lure for readers. In July, Anthony was acquitted of murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.
“This case was never about Casey’s behavior. It was about how Caylee died,” Baez told Dr. Drew Pinsky. To his critics, Baez said his role was be “an advocate, a defender — it wasn’t to sit there and judge someone.”
There was no evidence of murder, so the case became “a speculation spectacle,” Baez said.
He said the public’s impression of Anthony “is completely different than the real Casey.” He said that Anthony was very grateful to the people who helped save her life.
But his goal in writing the book, he said, wasn’t to change the public’s view of Anthony. He said they always had a “very professional” relationship.
Baez said he knew Anthony “would be able to do this probation standing on her head” — a comment that left an interesting image. He described Anthony was “an ideal probationer.”
Baez predicted that “everything cover to cover” would be surprising because his point of view has never been out there. How could any book live up to that promotion?
Pinsky wanted a detail. Baez, playing the tease, hinted at evidence that never made it to trial.
Pinsky reserved as much time for viewers to ask questions. One wanted to know if Anthony is mentally ill.
Baez pointed to “some issues” with “the entire family” and said Casey’s lying about going to a nonexistent job for two years was “phenomenal.”
Baez said he was confident in the case, but not confident that he would win because the state “had the entire public opinion on their side.” Baez added, “I wasn’t cocky in the sense we were going to win. We were very worried and concerned for Casey all along.”
A caller wanted to know about Baez’s opening statement that George Anthony had sexually abused his daughter. “The jury was free to believe George Anthony or not,” Baez said. “I cross-examined him on the sexual abuse questions. By his reaction, they could believe it or not.”
Baez also told the caller: “We completed our case in a complete and ethical manner.”
In the book, Baez talks about losing six helicopters and media trucks on the night Anthony was released from jail.
Baez said in the book he tried to put everything out there so readers can draw their own conclusions. He said writing the book had been therapeutic because it allowed him to move beyond talking in sound bites.
But will readers find it therapeutic?
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Me either marycole. Had no interest in watching it.
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Re: Jose Baez on Dr. Drew Pinsky's show in May 2012/ Jeff Ashton and defense attorney Cheney Mason are scheduled to speak about the case May 31st at a forum at Pace University in New York with live streaming.
Lawyer turned Author. Guess who stands to make a lot of money off a book? Yes Bozo. I won't be watching any of these shows or reading his stupid book.
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Casey Anthony: Cheney Mason distances himself from opening statement
Defense attorney Cheney Mason revealed Thursday night that he disagreed with colleague Jose Baez's opening statement in the Casey Anthony murder trial. In the statement, Baez alleged that George Anthonyhad sexually abused his daughter.
"I did not know it was going to happen," Mason said at a conference at Pace Law School in New York. The event added another fascinating chapter to the long-running Anthony saga.
Mason said that Baez's opening statement was "not the right thing to do." Mason told law students in the audience that they should never make a promise that they cannot deliver on.
"That was something he did," Mason said of Baez.
"Should it have been done? In my opinion, no," Mason said.
The Pace forum had tried to get the jury foreman to take part, but moderator Thane Rosenbaum announced that the juror dropped out: His parents didn't want him there.
Rosenbaum read a few nasty letters to jurors after Anthony was acquitted of murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.
Former prosecutor Jeff Ashton said the criticism of the jury foreman was "inexcusable."
Ashton said it was a fair trial for both sides. Of the jury, Ashton said, "We couldn't give them what they wanted." He cited a cause of death.
"The jury got it right. End of story," Mason said.
"The evidence was not there," Mason said later, adding that the jury had done its job.
Mason also lectured Ashton on making assumptions about Anthony. "You never talked to Casey Anthony," Mason said.
Ashton shot back that the defense would never let him talk to Anthony.
Ashton said he wouldn't have changed the charges in the case because he thought it was a premeditated murder.
Mason revealed that Anthony was never going to testify at her trial. One reason was that prosecutor Linda DraneBurdick could have questioned Anthony for days. "The trial would still be going on," Mason said.
Mason repeated his complaints about talking heads on television who weighed in on motions they had never read and who had never tried a murder case. He dismissed HLN host Nancy Grace as "Nancy Disgrace" and said he ruled out prospective jurors if they had watched her show.
But Mason didn't acknowledge that he had been a talking head for WKMG-Channel 6 before he joined the defense team.
Mason said Anthony is no different from most people her age who like to go to nightclubs. He said the defense was prevented from cutting Anthony's hair, and that's why it grew so long during her time in jail.
To critics of the verdict, Mason said: "No matter how much you believe something, it doesn't make it a fact."
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"I did not know it was going to happen," Mason said at a conference at Pace Law School in New York. The event added another fascinating chapter to the long-running Anthony saga.
Mason said that Baez's opening statement was "not the right thing to do." Mason told law students in the audience that they should never make a promise that they cannot deliver on.
"That was something he did," Mason said of Baez.
"Should it have been done? In my opinion, no," Mason said.
The Pace forum had tried to get the jury foreman to take part, but moderator Thane Rosenbaum announced that the juror dropped out: His parents didn't want him there.
Rosenbaum read a few nasty letters to jurors after Anthony was acquitted of murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.
Former prosecutor Jeff Ashton said the criticism of the jury foreman was "inexcusable."
Ashton said it was a fair trial for both sides. Of the jury, Ashton said, "We couldn't give them what they wanted." He cited a cause of death.
"The jury got it right. End of story," Mason said.
"The evidence was not there," Mason said later, adding that the jury had done its job.
Mason also lectured Ashton on making assumptions about Anthony. "You never talked to Casey Anthony," Mason said.
Ashton shot back that the defense would never let him talk to Anthony.
Ashton said he wouldn't have changed the charges in the case because he thought it was a premeditated murder.
Mason revealed that Anthony was never going to testify at her trial. One reason was that prosecutor Linda DraneBurdick could have questioned Anthony for days. "The trial would still be going on," Mason said.
Mason repeated his complaints about talking heads on television who weighed in on motions they had never read and who had never tried a murder case. He dismissed HLN host Nancy Grace as "Nancy Disgrace" and said he ruled out prospective jurors if they had watched her show.
But Mason didn't acknowledge that he had been a talking head for WKMG-Channel 6 before he joined the defense team.
Mason said Anthony is no different from most people her age who like to go to nightclubs. He said the defense was prevented from cutting Anthony's hair, and that's why it grew so long during her time in jail.
To critics of the verdict, Mason said: "No matter how much you believe something, it doesn't make it a fact."
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