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Post by samgoodwin on Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:56 am

Thanks, BJ! Pretty hard to flip that up! She made it sound like she was wearing a little cheerleader type skirt.

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Post by raine1953 on Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:57 am

Wrapitup wrote:That pic you just posted sums it up, Nite.

Raine, I may have been confused as to what Nite also said as like you, have been on steroids..not playing w/a full deck right now. I w/freely admit that. pulling hair
And.............I'm surprised I even caught that! I might not have, better double check as we're on the same steroids and I have ADDH real bad from these! head bang
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Post by samgoodwin on Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:00 am

There's a picture on huffpo of her in her baptismal garment with Travis and it is obviously the same plain garment. I hope Martinez asks her about that.

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Post by Wrapitup on Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:11 am

I could be wrong but didn't she say they immediately went back to his place and he wanted/performed anal sex on her? I don't believe that defense attorney ASKED if she was still in that garmet..at least not that I can remember and I'll be damned if I am going to try to find exactly what she said because I don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth. She makes TMLS look like a novice in the "lying" department.

I think Martinez will get to every.single.detail she tried to pass on as Her truth. Of course, we w/have to sit and hear all about how she killed him and what lead up to it. It could be another week before Martinez gets his shot at her..especially if they don't hold trial on Fridays and don't even start until 10:30 MST.

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Wrapitup wrote:That pic you just posted sums it up, Nite.

Raine, I may have been confused as to what Nite also said as like you, have been on steroids..not playing w/a full deck right now. I w/freely admit that. pulling hair
And.............I'm surprised I even caught that! I might not have, better double check as we're on the same steroids and I have ADDH real bad from these! head bang
No worries, Raine..we've come a long way since that post. Now, we are talking abut the fact she is saying he was caught (by HER - Here-SAY at its finest) that he was masturbating to pics of boys. It's so far-fetched and disgusting. This chick is a crazed sex fiend/lying murdering slut. CSFLMS.

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Post by Nama on Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:17 am

I have a question. I know that along with the pic of the baptism garment it says water repellent (NOT water proof), but wouldn't it still be wet after being under water....and wouldn't a person want to get out of those wet clothes before getting in a car and driving home. confused
I have a hard time believing that they had those clothes on when they arrived home. Would she have lied about what they were wearing just to make it more kinkier.....baptism garment + SEX = (i truly don't have the answer)
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Post by Wrapitup on Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:25 am

Yes, she would have lied and that's a GREAT question, BJ. Hoping Martinez w/have a "Mormon Baptismal Garment" expert on. Sarcasm

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Post by raine1953 on Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:27 am

I just now caught up with you all. There is NO WAY I believe that Travis was caught or not caught looking at child porn. Just more character assassination from her sick self.
I agree with all of you above, she is pure evil and she knew exactly what she was doing or about to do.
I can't even come up with an intelligent comment after reading all of this. She makes me sick and the DP is too damn good for her!
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Post by Wrapitup on Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:36 am

You did a fine job of coming up w/an intelligent comment in your last sentence above, Raine. This goes beyond ridiculous. Cannot wait till Monday. Or should I say, until Martinez gets to cross examine her. I don't care what I have to do, am watching this LIVE!

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Post by raine1953 on Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:53 am

Damn, I have that C Scan Monday!!!!! Oh well, I doubt Martinez will be close to getting to her then. I don't think I have anymore commitments the rest of the week, if so I'll have to reschedule!
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Post by spayneuteryourpets on Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:24 pm

samgoodwin wrote:Ok, just read the above about the pictures of boys, I had not heard that before. I can't believe this would be admissible if we only have Jodi's word that this ever happened.

I was wondering if that's where she was going when she stated there was boy's spiderman underwear in her valentine present from Travis. If there indeed was spiderman underwear - and it's awfully odd she took no photos of that - you may have heard Vinnie Politan said this video where Cameron Diaz danced around in boy's underwear was probably why that would have been in there as a joke from Travis: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

I agree I agree
I do not believe this ever happened. She would have taken pictures.
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Post by samgoodwin on Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:28 pm

Great pic, Nite, of the tunnel of doom. LOL.

I have a theory now of how she's going to explain away this whole attack. Now that she's made up the story of him looking at young boys, I have a sinking feeling she's going to say she threatened to tell Travis' current gf, (Or the LDS group in general) that Travis was really gay and this set him off and he attacked her and she had to defend herself. I DO NOT buy any of this, just thinking that's where this is headed. It's obvious Travis was heterosexual just from all the gfs he had.

But even if she stoops that low and hopes to sway someone on the jury, I don't think it will fly, because why would she not just stab him and run when he was down, rather than keep on going stabbing him over and over, slicing his throat and then shooting him? Nope, there is just no reason for all this overkill.

I hope Travis's family can come back later if she gets LWOP and sue her for defamation of his character. This is all just so wrong. Bad enough he had to suffer and die so brutally, but to then smear his good name and torment his family is just so wrong. ITA about the DP being too good for her.


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Post by Wrapitup on Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:35 pm

I agree w/you, Sam. That's a great analogy.

One thing I did find on his MySpace was a post that a male friend of his wrote saying (paraphrasing) "it's good to see that you are coming out of the closet". You can see exactly what was said if you go to TA's Myspace acct. I read that last week but wasn't sure how to take it. Or, maybe he said, "it's good to see you 'coming out.'

I Definitely do NOT think he was gay (if he was that's not a crime) because he had gf's and like men his age, hormones were flying. If there is NO Proof on his computer or cell of young boys this is ALL a crock made up by Jodi and her defense attorney.

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Post by samgoodwin on Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:42 pm

I agree, nothing wrong with being gay - not that I think he was - but I think she was thinking of the LDS church not approving of that lifestyle. Actually, what she's accusing him of is being a pedophile - which would definitely influence the jury.

I just read a great response on the Justice for Travis site from Chris Hughes about this. Nurmi lied to his wife Sky to try and get a response out of her. Talk about unethical lawyers.

Here's Chris Hughes' statement:
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OK, so I have been pretty quiet through this trial…so far. We have decided to not do any media until after the trial is over. We had no idea how hard that commitment would be to keep as we had underestimated the attack that would be made on Travis. But we made it, so we will keep it. That said, there are a few things I need to clear up that are floating around on the net…..

IT (Jodi), being IT, came up with a whole new set of lies in 2010. Lies, I would imagine, she is going to try to work into this trial, as she fights for her life. I didn't think she would attempt to do this as there is no evidence as to the validity of these claims. There are only letters conjured by IT that were thrown out of court and deemed "fraudulent." I just figured she, and everyone on her team, had given up on these ridiculous claims until I read the posts below:

"It also makes you wonder just how much Chris & Sky Hughes really knew about TA’s child addiction (and the physical/verbal abuse he inflicted upon Jodi in private). Remember Sky’s initial reaction to one of TA’s letters too, where she specifically referenced TA’s age of attraction?" and "(& subsequent cover-up of TA’s abuse & child porn-related issues) by Chris & Sky Hughes."

UNBELIEVABLE! Are people really this delusional? This info is from fake letters…too fake even for the National Enquirer to run with! That is saying something! Some of you heard me call Nurmi a liar. It was related to these claims. He had LIED to my wife. He emailed her a letter, telling her it was "100% verified to be Travis' writing" and that there was "irrefutable evidence" backing up these claims. #1- It's near impossible to verify something 100%. AND it is absolutely impossible to even come close if there is no original (which we later found there is not). #2- There is no, and never has been "irrefutable evidence" to back up these claims. He totally lied! Sky's reaction to what Nurmi sent her had ZERO to do with Travis and his character, and EVERYTHING to do with Nurmi's lies and manipulative tactics and her experiences working with sexually abused kids. The ONLY reason Sky even went there, as far as Travis was concerned, was because Nurmi told her there was "irrefutable evidence," and to us, the only thing irrefutable would be video tapes. We had NO IDEA that it was legal for the defense attorney to lie about evidence to try to sway someone's testimony (we had been subpoenaed to testify in a hearing the following week). Unbelievably unethical in my opinion.

I just wanted everyone to be aware of this, because I'm guessing Jodi, being the shamelessly evil person she is, is going to make these asinine claims! Here is what we know about Jodi… and it is truly "irrefutable." Jodi lies…and lies… and lies… it's just what she does, and who she is. She has done it from the beginning, and we can expect more of it until this trial is over. To expect anything other than lies from Jodi would be naive at best. Travis is not, and never has been, a pedophile. And only the most despicable of human beings would accuse someone of being such, knowing they are not. There is nothing worse.
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I hope that Martinez is reading the above. It's going to be very interesting to see if the judge allows these so-called letters in. I would expect handwriting experts if she allows it. But, cannot imagine her doing so. Would bet court w/start late on Monday because of this despicable attempt to portray Travis in a very demeaning way. His family must be sickened beyond belief. We, the general public are. Can't imagine what Travis' family is going through.

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It looks like the judge has already allowed those letters in. Check out the gobs of comments at [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] under what Chris posted.

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Post by raine1953 on Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:11 pm

Wrapitup wrote:I agree w/you, Sam. That's a great analogy.

One thing I did find on his MySpace was a post that a male friend of his wrote saying (paraphrasing) "it's good to see that you are coming out of the closet". You can see exactly what was said if you go to TA's Myspace acct. I read that last week but wasn't sure how to take it. Or, maybe he said, "it's good to see you 'coming out.'
Heck, I've said that I am coming out of the closet on our public threads when I talked about my cancer/chemo! What is on TA's My Space could mean anything.

I Definitely do NOT think he was gay (if he was that's not a crime) because he had gf's and like men his age, hormones were flying. If there is NO Proof on his computer or cell of young boys this is ALL a crock made up by Jodi and her defense attorney.
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Sam, please be patient with me. I've been on steroids for over a week, I have chemo brain or at least that's my excuse for now.
But are we talking about the defense lawyers?

re: "I just read a great response on the Justice for Travis site from Chris Hughes about this. Nurmi lied to his wife Sky to try and get a response out of her. Talk about unethical lawyers."
I'm starting to get confused, please forgive me!
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Post by raine1953 on Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:26 pm

Wrapitup wrote:I hope that Martinez is reading the above. It's going to be very interesting to see if the judge allows these so-called letters in. I would expect handwriting experts if she allows it. But, cannot imagine her doing so. Would bet court w/start late on Monday because of this despicable attempt to portray Travis in a very demeaning way. His family must be sickened beyond belief. We, the general public are. Can't imagine what Travis' family is going through.
If they're late on Monday perfect for me! Have that damn C Scan and can't reschedule! By then maybe I'll have my head screwed on straight too!
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raine1953 wrote:Sam, please be patient with me. I've been on steroids for over a week, I have chemo brain or at least that's my excuse for now.
But are we talking about the defense lawyers?

re: "I just read a great response on the Justice for Travis site from Chris Hughes about this. Nurmi lied to his wife Sky to try and get a response out of her. Talk about unethical lawyers."
I'm starting to get confused, please forgive me!
Raine, Nurmi is the Duhfense attorney.

I agree on the "coming out". Afraid that peeps w/read that and take it the wrong way..more afraid the juror's are reading. Wondering if there are any Mormon's on the jury..someone on HLN, I think it was Jean Casarus, stated that there are a lot of Mormon's in AZ. I think they should not allow Mormon's on the jury. I have nothing against them..but since this case is about sex and Mormonism, the two don't mix. my 2 cents

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Wrapitup wrote:I hope that Martinez is reading the above. It's going to be very interesting to see if the judge allows these so-called letters in. I would expect handwriting experts if she allows it. But, cannot imagine her doing so. Would bet court w/start late on Monday because of this despicable attempt to portray Travis in a very demeaning way. His family must be sickened beyond belief. We, the general public are. Can't imagine what Travis' family is going through.
If they're late on Monday perfect for me! Have that damn C Scan and can't reschedule! By then maybe I'll have my head screwed on straight too!
It starts at 9:30 your time and I have a feeling there are going to be lots of delays due to sidebars so hopefully you won't miss much. We'll be here blogging away so that you and anyone else that gets here late can catch up. Never fear, VH is Here!! :cheering:

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raine1953 wrote:Sam, please be patient with me. I've been on steroids for over a week, I have chemo brain or at least that's my excuse for now.
But are we talking about the defense lawyers?

re: "I just read a great response on the Justice for Travis site from Chris Hughes about this. Nurmi lied to his wife Sky to try and get a response out of her. Talk about unethical lawyers."
I'm starting to get confused, please forgive me!

Yes, sorry, raine - Nurmi is the fat defense lawyer guy. I should have been more clear. I see on the Justice for Travis site now peopel are planning to write to the bar association in AZ about this.
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Post by samgoodwin on Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:58 am

So sorry you are going through chemo, Raine. My sister just did that, they found a small lump of cancer in her breast, but they removed it and she did a "short burst" of treatments and has to take some pills - but her cancer appears to be gone. I hope you get good results from your chemo also.

I wanted to add, you may not have to worry about missing anything on Monday! I just saw this post on the Justice For Travis fb site:

"I just read that the Evidentiary hearing is going to continue on (Monday) and Court will resume in the afternoon of Wednesday... I hope that something happens in the meantime to get that garbage thrown out of the trial..."


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Post by Wrapitup on Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:58 pm

Court won't resume until WED?? It's worth it if they get that garbage thrown out. Am glad the peeps are writing the AZ bar association.

Sam, I am sorry to hear about your sister..glad they caught it early. Raine is a real trooper. She's been through so much but she is always here posting away. ❤

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Post by samgoodwin on Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:05 pm

I'm not sure about the wednesday start, that was just posted by one person. I think that Gus creep was supposed to testify again on Wed.?

I found a very nice blog with photos written about Travis by one of his friends, Dawn Tate..

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Post by FeatherPony on Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:09 pm

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raine1953 wrote:Sam, please be patient with me. I've been on steroids for over a week, I have chemo brain or at least that's my excuse for now.
But are we talking about the defense lawyers?

re: "I just read a great response on the Justice for Travis site from Chris Hughes about this. Nurmi lied to his wife Sky to try and get a response out of her. Talk about unethical lawyers."
I'm starting to get confused, please forgive me!

Yes, sorry, raine - Nurmi is the fat defense lawyer guy. I should have been more clear. I see on the Justice for Travis site now peopel are planning to write to the bar association in AZ about this.

Hi Sam -- what is the link for the "Justice for Travis" site?
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Post by FeatherPony on Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:12 pm

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Wrapitup wrote:I hope that Martinez is reading the above. It's going to be very interesting to see if the judge allows these so-called letters in. I would expect handwriting experts if she allows it. But, cannot imagine her doing so. Would bet court w/start late on Monday because of this despicable attempt to portray Travis in a very demeaning way. His family must be sickened beyond belief. We, the general public are. Can't imagine what Travis' family is going through.
If they're late on Monday perfect for me! Have that damn C Scan and can't reschedule! By then maybe I'll have my head screwed on straight too!

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Post by FeatherPony on Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:14 pm

Wrapitup wrote:Court won't resume until WED?? It's worth it if they get that garbage thrown out. Am glad the peeps are writing the AZ bar association.

Sam, I am sorry to hear about your sister..glad they caught it early. Raine is a real trooper. She's been through so much but she is always here posting away. ❤

Yeah, too bad all that steaming pile of crap wasn't filtered out last week.. pulling hair
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Post by samgoodwin on Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:28 pm

feather: Here's the Justice for Travis fb site
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This is the defense JA's lawyers are going for - "Psychological self defense." Fail. It has to be reasonable, not overkill, and she had to have had no means of escape.
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samgoodwin wrote:feather: Here's the Justice for Travis fb site
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This is the defense JA's lawyers are going for - "Psychological self defense." Fail. It has to be reasonable, not overkill, and she had to have had no means of escape.
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thx for the links sam!
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Post by Wrapitup on Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:35 pm

samgoodwin wrote:I'm not sure about the wednesday start, that was just posted by one person. I think that Gus creep was supposed to testify again on Wed.?

I found a very nice blog with photos written about Travis by one of his friends, Dawn Tate..

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Love that link, Sam. Thanks!

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Post by samgoodwin on Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:46 pm

Just saw this comparison photo at the Justice for Travis site. They're comparing the hands on that "erection" photo to Travis's hands. They pointed out that the hands holding it are older and have arthritic looking joints, which I would agree with. The picture says it all, IMO.

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Post by raine1953 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:58 pm

samgoodwin wrote:So sorry you are going through chemo, Raine. My sister just did that, they found a small lump of cancer in her breast, but they removed it and she did a "short burst" of treatments and has to take some pills - but her cancer appears to be gone. I hope you get good results from your chemo also.
Thank you Sam. I really didn't mean to make anything on this thread about me but the coming out of the closet remark I just had to comment on! I'm so happy for your sister, great news! I had 35 radiation treatments and there was quite a bit of shrinkage, have completed three rounds of chemo (6 days each) which consisted of two days of IV chemo, four days of a pill at home. I'm feeling real good. Will know on 3.15 if it's better, the same or worse.

I wanted to add, you may not have to worry about missing anything on Monday! I just saw this post on the Justice For Travis fb site:

"I just read that the Evidentiary hearing is going to continue on (Monday) and Court will resume in the afternoon of Wednesday... I hope that something happens in the meantime to get that garbage thrown out of the trial..."
My appt is at 9 am, it could take hours at this place or I could be home in an hour but on what you've said it sounds like I maybe safe! Thank you!
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Wrapitup wrote:I hope that Martinez is reading the above. It's going to be very interesting to see if the judge allows these so-called letters in. I would expect handwriting experts if she allows it. But, cannot imagine her doing so. Would bet court w/start late on Monday because of this despicable attempt to portray Travis in a very demeaning way. His family must be sickened beyond belief. We, the general public are. Can't imagine what Travis' family is going through.
If they're late on Monday perfect for me! Have that damn C Scan and can't reschedule! By then maybe I'll have my head screwed on straight too!

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Thank you FeatherPony! I put a bit of an explanation in the post above to Sam. Thanks for the thoughts, I sure appreciate it!
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It looks to me like the trial IS continuing MONDAY. Here's a link to the court schedule:

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Post by Wrapitup on Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:32 pm

Sam, w/out copying/pasting the photos you posted, are you thinking that "the penis photo" is NOT Travis' but Darryl's? That "penis photo" disturbs me..it looks like rigor mortis has set in.

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Post by Wrapitup on Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:34 pm

Great link, BJ..Thanks! Am just wondering if they've resolved the alleged letters or whatever the defense has cooked up and w/go straight to JA taking the stand for more of her lies. Want the defense to be done w/her so Martinez can grill her.

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Post by Nama on Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:36 pm

Check out this video, Wrap. At :16 and then later in the video Darryl's hands are show again. His fingers sure look like the fingers in the 'penis' photo. Travis' fingers don't look like those in the photo at all. I'm betting that we've all seen Darryl's penis.


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Post by Wrapitup on Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:54 pm

The pic should be date and time stamped. Of course, she was still living w/Darryl while she was boinking Travis. Thanks for the You Tube.

Sure WISH the sound on all the LIVE links was louder. Have yet to find a link where I don't have to strain to hear what is going on. grrrr In that video, you can hear it really well.

At least we could all hear TMLS's trial quite well. my 2 cents

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There is no mistaking that Jodi Arias’ defense team faces an uphill battle as it fights to save her life in her murder trial. The prosecution’s mountain of evidence against her in the killing or her ex-boyfriend cannot be denied.

The evidence left the defense little choice but to call Arias to the stand this week. Whether or not Arias’ testimony will ultimately help her is yet to be seen, but experts The Huffington Post spoke with have their own opinions on how it has sat with the jury.

“Her [testimony] seems staged and rehearsed, she seems unnatural and plastic,” Dr. Scott Bonn, a crime expert and assistant professor of sociology at Drew University told The Huffington Post. “Her demeanor and emotions on the witness stand do not match the shocking nature of what she is discussing.” Exactly!
Bonn is one of hundreds of thousands of people nationwide who are glued to the sensational first-degree murder trial of Arias, a 32-year-old photographer who stands accused of shooting her ex-boyfriend, Travis Alexander, in the face, stabbing him 27 times and slitting his throat from ear to ear in the shower of his Mesa, Ariz., apartment on June 4, 2008.

The trial, now in its fifth week, began with prosecutors asserting Arias was a jealous and vengeful ex-girlfriend who murdered Alexander in cold blood.

Prosecution witnesses have detailed for jurors Arias’ web of lies -- including three different versions of the murder that she has given throughout her incarceration.

Arias initially told police she was not there when Alexander was killed. She later admitted she was there, but said Alexander was killed by intruders and she escaped. Her third story was that she killed an abusive Alexander in self-defense. The latter of the three stories is the one her defense team is presenting as her defense.

Similar to Bonn, Dr. Maurice Godwin, a criminal forensic psychologist from Fayetteville, NC, said he sees little emotion in Arias’ testimony.

“Jodi clearly has salient signs of psychopathy,” said Godwin, who has not professionally treated Arias. “She has no affect during the trial or while testifying. The lack of affect is beyond being coached by her defense team. There is a disconnect between the violent nature of her actions, the crime itself and the normal empathy that she should be displaying, especially if it was really self-defense.”

Arias has offered testimony indicating she felt used by Alexander. The defense has been attempting to show he was selfish, obsessed with sex and saw Arias as a means to achieve sexual gratification.

Godwin and Anne Bremner, a Seattle lawyer and legal analyst who has been closely following the case, acknowledge Alexander did likely use Arias, based on text messages and other evidence presented at trial.

“I do believe that Travis Alexander used her sexually and he felt empowered by [her lack of] sexual boundaries,” Godwin said.

That lack of boundaries included, according to Arias’ testimony, oral, vaginal and anal sex.

“She loved him, she did what he wanted [and] he humiliated her in sex and [through] text. He wouldn’t hold her hand or acknowledge her in public,” Bremner explained.

However, even if Arias felt, as she said in court, “like used toilet paper,” she still aggressively pursued Alexander and continued to have sexual liaisons with him, based on evidence presented in court.

“She claims to be abused and humiliated, and yet she demonstrates almost no emotional reaction while describing the incidents,” Bonn said. “Where [are] the agony, humiliation and rage that led her to stab Travis 27 times, slit his throat and shoot him in the head for good measure? Instead, Jodi gives every sign of being a sociopath who can lie easily and be detached while describing her feelings, and then snap and strike out with extreme rage as she clearly did in murdering Travis.”

Godwin believes it was Alexander’s rejection of Arias that led her to take his life in such brutal fashion.

“The narcissistic side [of] Jodi’s personality exploded when it became evident that her sexually [sic] and emotional tricks had indeed failed when she found out that Travis was dating other women,” Godwin said. “To a narcissistic psychopathic person like Jodi, who sold her soul performing forbidden intimate sex acts, her perceived rejection by Travis dealt a blow to her entire reason for living. The only option was to hurt the person who harmed her so much.”

If convicted, Arias faces the possibility of the death penalty. Bremner acknowledges she believes Arias is guilty of killing Alexander, but said she believes the jury may find Arias on the stand to be smart and engaging.

“Her story is mesmerizing, as we have all been jilted and humiliated … I think she may have saved her own life, but not her freedom,” Bremner said.

The veteran attorney added, “I can’t imagine how she will fare on cross examination.”

Though the prosecution has rested and there are likely weeks to go in the trial, the prosecution will ultimately have an opportunity to further strengthen the case against Arias.

According to Jose Baez, the attorney who represented Casey Anthony and achieved not-guilty verdicts for first-degree murder, aggravated manslaughter of a child and aggravated child abuse in the death of Anthony’s daughter, Caylee, the prosecution will ultimately have the final say.

“Remember, the state has the ability to put on a rebuttal case,” Baez told HuffPost. Barf

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Wrapitup wrote:David Lohr
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There is no mistaking that Jodi Arias’ defense team faces an uphill battle as it fights to save her life in her murder trial. The prosecution’s mountain of evidence against her in the killing or her ex-boyfriend cannot be denied.

The evidence left the defense little choice but to call Arias to the stand this week. Whether or not Arias’ testimony will ultimately help her is yet to be seen, but experts The Huffington Post spoke with have their own opinions on how it has sat with the jury.

“Her [testimony] seems staged and rehearsed, she seems unnatural and plastic,” Dr. Scott Bonn, a crime expert and assistant professor of sociology at Drew University told The Huffington Post. “Her demeanor and emotions on the witness stand do not match the shocking nature of what she is discussing.” Exactly!
Bonn is one of hundreds of thousands of people nationwide who are glued to the sensational first-degree murder trial of Arias, a 32-year-old photographer who stands accused of shooting her ex-boyfriend, Travis Alexander, in the face, stabbing him 27 times and slitting his throat from ear to ear in the shower of his Mesa, Ariz., apartment on June 4, 2008.

The trial, now in its fifth week, began with prosecutors asserting Arias was a jealous and vengeful ex-girlfriend who murdered Alexander in cold blood.

Prosecution witnesses have detailed for jurors Arias’ web of lies -- including three different versions of the murder that she has given throughout her incarceration.

Arias initially told police she was not there when Alexander was killed. She later admitted she was there, but said Alexander was killed by intruders and she escaped. Her third story was that she killed an abusive Alexander in self-defense. The latter of the three stories is the one her defense team is presenting as her defense.

Similar to Bonn, Dr. Maurice Godwin, a criminal forensic psychologist from Fayetteville, NC, said he sees little emotion in Arias’ testimony.

“Jodi clearly has salient signs of psychopathy,” said Godwin, who has not professionally treated Arias. “She has no affect during the trial or while testifying. The lack of affect is beyond being coached by her defense team. There is a disconnect between the violent nature of her actions, the crime itself and the normal empathy that she should be displaying, especially if it was really self-defense.”

Arias has offered testimony indicating she felt used by Alexander. The defense has been attempting to show he was selfish, obsessed with sex and saw Arias as a means to achieve sexual gratification.

Godwin and Anne Bremner, a Seattle lawyer and legal analyst who has been closely following the case, acknowledge Alexander did likely use Arias, based on text messages and other evidence presented at trial.

“I do believe that Travis Alexander used her sexually and he felt empowered by [her lack of] sexual boundaries,” Godwin said.

That lack of boundaries included, according to Arias’ testimony, oral, vaginal and anal sex.

“She loved him, she did what he wanted [and] he humiliated her in sex and [through] text. He wouldn’t hold her hand or acknowledge her in public,” Bremner explained.

However, even if Arias felt, as she said in court, “like used toilet paper,” she still aggressively pursued Alexander and continued to have sexual liaisons with him, based on evidence presented in court.

“She claims to be abused and humiliated, and yet she demonstrates almost no emotional reaction while describing the incidents,” Bonn said. “Where [are] the agony, humiliation and rage that led her to stab Travis 27 times, slit his throat and shoot him in the head for good measure? Instead, Jodi gives every sign of being a sociopath who can lie easily and be detached while describing her feelings, and then snap and strike out with extreme rage as she clearly did in murdering Travis.”

Godwin believes it was Alexander’s rejection of Arias that led her to take his life in such brutal fashion.

“The narcissistic side [of] Jodi’s personality exploded when it became evident that her sexually [sic] and emotional tricks had indeed failed when she found out that Travis was dating other women,” Godwin said. “To a narcissistic psychopathic person like Jodi, who sold her soul performing forbidden intimate sex acts, her perceived rejection by Travis dealt a blow to her entire reason for living. The only option was to hurt the person who harmed her so much.”

If convicted, Arias faces the possibility of the death penalty. Bremner acknowledges she believes Arias is guilty of killing Alexander, but said she believes the jury may find Arias on the stand to be smart and engaging.

“Her story is mesmerizing, as we have all been jilted and humiliated … I think she may have saved her own life, but not her freedom,” Bremner said.

The veteran attorney added, “I can’t imagine how she will fare on cross examination.”

Though the prosecution has rested and there are likely weeks to go in the trial, the prosecution will ultimately have an opportunity to further strengthen the case against Arias.

According to Jose Baez, the attorney who represented Casey Anthony and achieved not-guilty verdicts for first-degree murder, aggravated manslaughter of a child and aggravated child abuse in the death of Anthony’s daughter, Caylee, the prosecution will ultimately have the final say.

“Remember, the state has the ability to put on a rebuttal case,” Baez told HuffPost. Barf

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Post by Nama on Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:04 am

I was just listening to InSession and they stated that all of Jodi's family will be in Court today to support her.. Her father ( who is on dialysis-every 2 hours), her brother/ her sister/ and mom... so are we suppose to assume this will be the ~bombshell~ testimony we are waiting for ???

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:41 am

BJ wrote:I was just listening to InSession and they stated that all of Jodi's family will be in Court today to support her.. Her father ( who is on dialysis-every 2 hours), her brother/ her sister/ and mom... so are we suppose to assume this will be the ~bombshell~ testimony we are waiting for ???

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She's about 1 year away (I think) from getting to June 4, 2008. I think this w/be the "bombshell" testimony today. Sarcasm eyerolling crap Lies

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Post by Nama on Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:46 am

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This was discussed upthread about a week ago, but I haven't heard anymore about it.
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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:51 am

Yep, have heard nothing more..had not seen that video. That's the only reason I posted it.

As usual, the trial is running late.

We are up to 20 pages..this thread will split on it's own very soon..just to let everyone know, we will continue w/Part 2.

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:53 am

Beth Karas InSession
Arias will be on the stand in about an hour for a 4th day. Among the details she is expected to testify about--allegations that Alexander fantasized about little boys. According to the just-released transcript of last Thursday's hearing, the defense position is that Arias submitted to certain sexual acts out of fear that, if she didn't, he would act out against little boys, and that she believed she could help him.
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Running late.

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