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Post by Nama on Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:27 pm

Wrapitup wrote:If you listen to the video, you hear Shawn talking. OMG, he makes me sick!!

I think we'll move this thread to the new thread on Hailey..the one where her remains MAY have been discovered just so we are all on the same page, literally!
Not sure what you are talking about, Wrap. I started this thread and moved all the comments about remains being found from Hailey thread #7 to this new thread. I changed the title of the #7 thread so there was no mention of remains being found and locked that thread. Help me out here, please. What am I missing?

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Post by Wrapitup on Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:54 pm

TBT had started a thread re: Hailey and it was merged w/this thread.

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Post by Wrapitup on Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:57 pm

Did you all watch Nancy Grace? I have to hand it to her, she covered it well and had Shawn's attorney on who admitted that he and Billie are still living together but didn't have very much else to say. He would not answer many of Nancy's questions. There was a statement that said they had tried to contact Billie Dunn but had gotten no response by the time the story was aired.

Gnreed, I agree with you..if they got a tip about her remains being at an airport, someone else knows something.

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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:13 am

Hailey Dunn Found? Details of Remains Discussed by Nancy Grace

March 21, 2012 11:25 PM EDT

The Hailey Dunn case is heating up again after the teen from Colorado City, Texas has been gone since 2010. Earlier this week the discovery of human remains rocked the community of Colorado City as well as nationwide, and there is plenty of speculation returning to the front of this high profile story. Could the skeletal remains found this week in fact be the missing Colorado City teen?

Nancy Grace discussed this week's gruesome find and she rehashed the case as it has been known to the public. She revealed that while identification of the body hasn't been achieved yet, details of its appearance have leaked out indicating that this could in fact be the body of Hailey Dunn. It's rumored that there were blonde hairs on the skeleton, but that is not confirmed. What is confirmed, however, is that the skeletal hands were of the size of an adolescent.

This timeline recounts the same events discussed on tonight's airing of Nancy Grace, and the one thing that hasn't changed in this investigation is the only person of interest. Shawn Adkins was the last person to have seen the missing girl and he claims that she had left to walk to a friend's house. That was the last time she was reportedly seen. Shawn Adkins is her mother's boyfriend, and it appears that she still supports this man after all this time. Let's see if that changes if and when this body is identified as her missing teen daughter.

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Post by Nama on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:15 am

Okeedokee Wrap. I didn't know about the other thread being started.

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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:16 am

Family of Other Missing Persons in Big Spring Speak Out Over Found Human Remains

Updated: Mar 21, 2012 10:17 PM CDT

Family of Other Missing Persons in Big Spring Speak Out Over Found Human Remains (3-21-12)
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by Jen Kastner
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BIG SPRING- During Wednesday's press conference in Big Spring over discovered human remains, the Big Spring Police Department made it a point to mention there are two other missing persons cases out of Big Spring, not just Hailey Dunn's.

Her disappearance is the most recent active missing persons case in Big Spring, but police say they've been investigating the dispenses of two other people for years.

William "Arlin" Bynum went missing back in 2003. His family tells NewsWest 9 he was last seen early in the morning hours with another person. They were leaving the San Franciscan Bar and Grill in downtown Big Spring.

Some of Bynum's family members in Big Spring tells NewsWest 9 they don't believe the remains found on Tuesday belong to Bynum. They say they've gone down this road before, most recently when a bone fragment believed to be his was discovered, but nothing came of it.

His mother, Deanna Hartford, says she hopes these remains turns out to be his, so everything can be put to rest and she can have some peace of mind. Hartford says, "I pray that [they're] his. I pray that they are so I know where he [is]. It's difficult on all of us."

She says not a day has gone by where she hasn't begged for answers. "I keep hoping that Arlin is going to come home but I know deep in my heart that he's not because he would never do this. He's our baby. We just want them to find him so we can have a resting place for him and know where he is."

Another Big Spring man, Bobby Marquez Jr., has been missing for several years. His uncle, Raul Marquez, says he and his family don't believe the discovered remains are those of his nephew. "The family seriously believes that it [isn't] going to be Bobby Junior because of the situation as to where he was last seen or known about and it wasn't in this area."

He says Bobby was last seen at a friend's house in the north part of the city of Big Spring.

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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:22 am

Police quiet on details of human remains found in Big Spring
Evidence sent to medical examiner

BIG SPRING — The name Hailey Dunn was on the lips of everyone here Wednesday, except those of law enforcement.

As local, state and federal investigators processed a patch of barren dirt where human remains were found Tuesday afternoon, onlookers — some curious passers-by but mostly media and those closely following the story through social networks — were waiting for proof whether the bones were those of the Colorado City girl reported missing by her mother Dec. 28, 2010.

That proof was not provided Wednesday.

No new information was released by law enforcement officials regarding the identity of the remains found about 2:30 p.m. Tuesday near the southeast corner of Big Spring McMahon-Wrinkle Airport.

"We have no idea who it is," said Sgt. Tony Everett, spokesman for the Big Spring Police Department, at a midday media briefing at a nearby hangar.

The remains were sent to the Tarrant County Medical Examiner's Office, according to Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs.

Results are expected to take two to three weeks, Toombs said, but some preliminary findings could be available in as few as three days.

Toombs was among those with ties to the disappearance of the girl, who was 13 when she vanished, who made their way to the site.

He arrived just before 10 a.m. from Colorado City, about 40 miles east of Big Spring. Toombs has been involved in the investigation into Hailey's disappearance from the beginning.

John Young, a Sweetwater attorney who represents Hailey's mother, Billie Jean Dunn, stopped by the remains site on his way to San Angelo for a court appearance.

Later, Holly Jenkins, the organizer for the search for Hailey, made the trip from Midland to observe the investigation.

According to Young and Alex Eyssen, the attorney for Shawn Adkins — Billie Jean Dunn's live-in boyfriend at the time of Hailey's disappearance — Billie Jean Dunn and Adkins returned from Travis County to the Colorado City area after hearing of the discovery. Neither was at the site Wednesday.

Eyssen said Dunn and Adkins, who had parted ways after Adkins was named by law enforcement as a "person of interest" in Hailey's disappearance, are together again. Although previously reported as a named suspect, Adkins is considered by police as a person of interest in the case.

"At this point anything that we say and discuss is speculative because we don't really know anything," Young said. "We don't know if it's a 15-year-old girl or an 80-year-old man."

Adkins reportedly was in Big Spring at his mother's house the morning of Dec. 27, 2010, when Hailey was last seen. Adkins' mother's home on Apache Drive is less than two miles from where the remains were found.

Jenkins, a family friend who has been searching for Hailey since January 2011, said the proximity of the remains to a location police believe Adkins visited the day that Hailey disappeared is unnerving.

"It's frightening. Obviously this location, and with him being the only named suspect in the case, it scares me," Jenkins said.

At the media briefing, Everett — a detective and Big Spring police spokesman — declined to comment on the overall size of the remains, and said it could not be determined whether they were male or female.

He declined to answer whether the remains were in a bag.

Everett said the remains appeared to have been in place for a long period of time but would not clarify how long.

He said some of the remains appeared partially mummified but did not know how long it took a body to reach that stage.

The remains were discovered Tuesday by workers at Desert Tanks, a steel oil tank manufacturing facility at the southern end of the airpark. Everett said workers were sandblasting a tank when they saw the partially uncovered remains. Everett said he could not speculate as to what may have caused the remains to become partially uncovered. But rain Monday — as much as a third of an inch — and strong winds may have played a part in the discovery.

Everett said the area where the remains were found had not been searched during the initial investigation into Hailey's disappearance. The site of the remains is at the Desert Tanks facility.

In December 2010 the land where the remains were found was leased by American Limestone. A company spokesman said the company stopped leasing the land in May 2011.

According to KOSA, the CBS affiliate for the Midland-Odessa area, the gates to the area now owned by Desert Tanks were not always locked in the past.

By 3 p.m. Wednesday the remains had been recovered, and law enforcement departed the site.

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NG said they would already know if this is a male or female and if it's a child or adult. "BS" were her exact words. I have to agree w/her on this. Don't faint anyone!

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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:30 am

Forensics experts explain factors of identifying remains
Environment can have affect on process

By Denise Blaz
Posted March 21, 2012 at 9:30 p.m.

Dental records, weather, radiographs of bones and past and current bodily trauma could be among factors that help identify remains of a recovered body, according to two forensic anthropologists not related to the Big Spring human remains investigation.

Wednesday afternoon, the Big Spring Police Department said human remains found by fuel tanker workers Tuesday have been described as "partially mummified."

No other information about age or gender of the remains has been released.

Daniel Wescott, director of forensic anthropology center at Texas State University, said it depends on how much information is available to expedite positively identifying a body.

When a body is found, Wescott said the first thing forensic anthropologists do is to start searching through records of missing people who might fit the description.

"If nothing else, they can at least rule them out," he said. "It should be fairly easy to figure out the age."

Wescott noted the pelvis is often used to determine gender.

Dennis C. Dirkmaat, department chairman and a professor of anthropology at the Meryhurst Archaeological Institute in Pennsylvania, said dental records are the quickest way to determine age.

DNA, the anthropologists said, comes into play if dental records cannot be located. If DNA is used, the process to identify the body can take anywhere from days to months, they said.

Another way to piece together more information about a body, they said, is by looking at bones and cartilage. Trauma such as a gunshot or stab wound could help trace evidence of foul play.

The anthropologists said a number of aspects — including running water, dry weather or scavengers such as vultures — can affect the integrity of the bones.

"There might be insect activity and sun bleaching, especially in Texas desert weather," said Dirkmaat. "If the remains are exposed to sunlight, the bones are often found bleached. Environmental conditions, like heat and dryness, can have a play in positively identifying remains."

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Post by MrsH on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:35 am

They can tell if the remains are male or female easily by looking at the pelvis as long as it wasn't damaged beyond recognition.

I really think it's her. Poor Hailey. She never stood a chance with those people.

The good thing is.. if SA really was stupid enough to place her in a garbage bag all the evidence is going to be in one place. If he didn't wear gloves, his fingerprints are going to be on that bag too. He'll get what he deserves soon and hopefully, Billie will too. Murder one.

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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:48 am

FBI Evidence Recovery Team Exhumes Remains, Sent for Autopsy

Posted: Mar 20, 2012 4:27 PM CDT
Updated: Mar 21, 2012 10:16 PM CDT

BIG SPRING - A FBI evidence recovery team has cleared the scene in Big Spring after human remains were found on Tuesday afternoon in Big Spring.

A press conference regarding the human remains was held on Wednesday morning for the media but no new information was released regarding the identity or sex of the remains.

On Tuesday in a press release to NewsWest 9, Big Spring Police dispatch received a call that human remains were found in a pasture near the 2500 block of Apron Drive around 2:30 p.m.

The remains were found by workers in the area.

Those employees told NewsWest 9 that it did appear that the body had been there for some time and was partially exposed. Employees also tell NewsWest 9 they used a lid from one of their tanks to keep the remains safe from the weather in the area until authorities arrived. They also said the body was partially mummified.

There has been some speculation that the remains may belong to missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn but the identity of the remains has not yet been released or confirmed. NewsWest 9's Anayeli Ruiz is reporting that Big Spring Police is working two other missing persons cases. The two missing persons are Arlin Bynum, who went missing back in 2003 and Bobby Marquez, Jr.

Officials say there is no timetable as to when the body will be identified. The body will be sent for an autopsy.

NewsWest 9 spoke to Shawn Adkins' lawyer, Alex Eyssen on Wednesday. Eyssen says Shawn Adkins has returned to the area and has made himself available to law enforcement officials to help in any way he can. He refused to comment on Billie Dunn returning to the area, but Shawn hopes that if it is indeed Hailey that this saga will come to a close and answers can be given as to what happened.

The Mitchell County Sheriff's Office tells NewsWest 9 that Billie Dunn, the mother of Hailey Dunn, is also in the area.

We'll continue to keep you up to date on this developing story.

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MrsH, I agree..especially if the body is partially mummified, it would be easy to tell the gender from the pelvic area. It was stated on NG tonight that at her age, the pelvis is developed enough to ascertain the gender. Why? Because we women have wider pelvis' due to preparation for childbirth. Not rocket science here. Also, the skull (I wonder, did they find her skull?) is easy to prove the gender. NG had pics of a male and female pelvis and skull. This is when she said forensics already knows the gender.

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Post by lisette on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:59 am

Colorado City Police Chief Roy Owens:
"I don’t have any contact information for the mother, or anyone else," he said. "We may be able to contact Haliey’s dad, Clint (Dunn). ... But I don’t know if he still lives here."

I hope and pray that somebody...anybody....else is going to conduct this investigation, like Texas Rangers or FBI!! This is ridiculous! Isn't Billie on probation? And he doesn't even know how to get in touch with her!?? head bang
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Post by lisette on Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:04 am

I guess any garbage bags in Billie's house are long gone by now...Wonder if LE could have taken them "just in case" they would need to compare later...Nah, they're not smart enough to think of that...
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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:11 am

Lisette, I doubt they took much from Billie's house except the infamous porn that they were never convicted on.

And yes, I couldn't believe Owens made the comment about having no contact info for Billie. pulling hair

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Post by gnreed on Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:31 am

I thought Nancy Grace did a great job last night. It seemed odd however that Glamour Attorney John Young wasn't on the show as well. My first thought was, "Billie is about to turn on Shawn to save her rear end."

Also, I am thinking and hoping the FBI removed the box of trash bags from the residence at the time of their search. I know they were looking at shovels in the backyard shed but I am not sure if they took them or not.


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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:30 am

I would bet John Young Declined to go on NG and told Billie the same thing. And, I hope you're right about the FBI moving trash bags and shovels. OMG, just saying that brings back horrible memories of little Caylee!

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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:41 am

SOURCE: I.D. of body found in Big Spring, Texas may come today

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HOWARD COUNTY, Texas-- A souce says officials may annouce the identity of a body found near a private airport in Big Spring, Texas as early as today.

There is wide speculation that the body belongs to a teenage cheerleader missing from Colorado City since 2010. Hailey Dunn was reported missing by her mom, Billie Dunn, on December 27 of that year.

The attorney for the only named person of interest in the case appeared on HLN's Nancy Grace show last night on behalf of his clent. Shawn Adkins was the last known person to see Hailey alive before she was reported missing.

Affidavits show Adkins was given a polygraph exam in which he indicated deception when asked about his involvement in Hailey's disappearace.

His attorney says Adkins and Billie Dunn are still in an intimate relationship despite the fact that investigators have reason to name him a person of interest.

Authorities found items such as pornography involving bestiality, and true-crime stories about serial killing and deviant sex during a search of the Dunn residence in Colorado City.

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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:43 am

I HIGHLY doubt we w/know anything until possibly next week. I wonder if they have gotten any dental records from Billie.

And, where is Clint? Haven't heard or read one single comment from him.

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Post by gnreed on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:52 am

Wrapitup wrote:I HIGHLY doubt we w/know anything until possibly next week. I wonder if they have gotten any dental records from Billie.

And, where is Clint? Haven't heard or read one single comment from him.


Has anyone checked the local jails????

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Post by mommyof3kids on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:53 am

Maybe they are going to let us know the gender and approximate age? That would at least give us a better idea if it is HL, or another missing person!

Wrap, good question, where is Clint?

Also, from post up thread, I like how Sean's attorney is stating that Sean is back in town and making himself readily available for LE to question him.. HMMM, does someone KNOW that they will be questioned by LE??? fingertap
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Post by mommyof3kids on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:10 pm

Has anyone checked the local jails????
gnreed, I did a search for Texas on the VINELink and not Clint Dunn comes up. Do we know if that is his actual name, or shortened for anything? I do see a LOT of Charles and Charlie Dunn's crazy 1

I think even if he was in a County jail, it would still come up on the VINElink.
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Post by mommyof3kids on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:11 pm

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Questions regarding where missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn's parents are began surfacing as soon as news broke of human remains found near Big Spring Tuesday.
KTXS has learned Hailey's father, Clint Dunn, is currently working on an off-shore oil rig and was unable to make it back to the area this week. Clint Dunn is expected to return next week, though.
His family, including wife Naomi and their baby daughter, are living in San Antonio at this time.
Hailey's mother, Billie Jean Dunn, relocated to the Austin area last June, about five and one-half months after her daughter disappeared.
According to her attorney John Young, Dunn has returned and is now back in the area.
However, unlike what some media reports have said, Young insisted in an interview with KTXS Thursday morning that Billie Jean Dunn is not in a relationship with Shawn Adkins, the only named suspect in Hailey's disappearance.
Young said he believes Adkins is also back in the Colorado City area; however, Young said that Dunn is currently not spending any time with Adkins.
Hailey Dunn, then an eighth-grader at Colorado Middle School in Colorado City, has been missing since Dec. 27, 2010.
Her disappearance sparked a massive search by law enforcement and by hundreds of volunteers over the next few months searching through rugged areas in Mitchell and Scurry counties and surrounding areas.
She has never been found, and there have been no arrests in connection to her disappearance.
The last person who claimed to see her alive is also the only named suspect in the case: Shawn Adkins. Adkins was the live-in boyfriend of Hailey's mother, Billie Jean Dunn, and lived in the same house with Hailey.
Adkins left his job the morning that Hailey disappeared, and Adkins' story about where he went that morning has raised questions among law enforcement, but he admitted to authorities that he traveled to his mother's house in Big Spring on that day.
Billie Jean Dunn admitted that both she and Adkins have failed lie detector tests during the initial stages of the investigation in January 2011.
Last June, about five and one-half months after Hailey's disappearance, the couple moved to the Austin area.


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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:23 pm

According to her attorney John Young, Dunn has returned and is now back in the area.

However, unlike what some media reports have said, Young insisted in an interview with KTXS Thursday morning that Billie Jean Dunn is not in a relationship with Shawn Adkins, the only named suspect in Hailey's disappearance. BS!!! Adkins attorney verified on NG that Yes, they are still "shacked up". Since WHEN have they not been together? Since they got the news that the remains are probably Hailey? I would bet Young has told Billie to STAY AWAY from Shawn. Big deal. They may not be Living together since they returned to CC but they are still together. That Young idiot bugs me big time!!

Young said he believes Adkins is also back in the Colorado City area; however, Young said that Dunn is currently not spending any time with Adkins.

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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:24 pm

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Wrapitup wrote:I HIGHLY doubt we w/know anything until possibly next week. I wonder if they have gotten any dental records from Billie.

And, where is Clint? Haven't heard or read one single comment from him.


Has anyone checked the local jails????
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Young said he believes Adkins is also back in the Colorado City area; however, Young said that Dunn is currently not spending any time with Adkins.
Since when? Five seconds ago. Can't believe a word any of them say. Blah, blah, blah!
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Post by mommyof3kids on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:38 pm

I am sure they are going to play the "we are apart" B.S. because maybe they know Sean's goose is cooked and Billie wants to play the grieving Mom card! I seriously think Sean knows that is where he put her remains and that is why he came to town to "be willing available to LE"! MIO!!!!
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Post by artgal16 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:47 pm

On Statement Analysis they said NG ran a story on this -I think its Hailey Dunn they have found but not confirmed yet.

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You can see from the transcripts of last night's show, that the producers are attempting to woo Billie Jean back on to the show by having Marc Klaas go 'easy' on Billie, blaming mostly Shawn, though other guests were not in agreement as they strongly expressed.
I highly doubt Billie will go back on NG show.
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I put Nothing past Billie. She may want to appear to make herself look like the grieving mother. la la la

It was also stated on Nancy's show last night by a prosecuting attorney that Billie may end up in the clink as well..due to still shacking up w/the ONLY POI in this case, due to the fact that she blatantly lied about where Shawn was and due to the fact she moved to another city..Personally, i think she KNOWS what happened (although she MAY and that is a huge MAY not be personally involved - ie, she didn't kill or drug or hide her body) and is so "in love" with that piece of trash that she will say or do anything for the love of her life.

I cannot imagine for one second ANY of us staying w/a person who is the ONLY POI in my child's case. This in itself speaks VOLUMES to me. And, wouldn't we all stay put? Get rid of that ass? Make sure the COP and the FBI have our current phone numbers and address? I don't buy the fact that she wants whoever did this prosecuted. She KNOWS who did it and is putting up a most unbelievable smokescreen that isn't fooling Anyone! MOO!

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Post by artgal16 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:01 pm

I could not stand the sight of Billie Dunn from the day I saw her - she put that lowlife Shawn above her own children, I hope they throw her in with him and lock them up forever.
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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:14 pm

GRACE: Well, you know, to you, William Fallon, former prosecutor, joining me out of Boston, it`s very obvious why cops aren`t telling her anything. She`s shacked up, slung up, with the live-in boyfriend that is a person of interest in this child`s murder. So I`m sure cops believe anything they say to her she will tell him. That doesn`t help anything.

FALLON: Absolutely. I would tell her nothing. Right now she`s at a minimum almost a co-conspirator if not a co-felon in this case. She`s already tried to hide him, if we recall, that`s why she got in trouble before. She has not cooperated with the police. She`s moving in with somebody who twice walked out of the investigation that was supposedly helpful to find her daughter.

The police, in reference to your guest there, but they cannot treat this woman as if she`s a sympathetic mother. This girl was basically an orphan by this mother. Now the only good thing is if I`m the cops here and I`m the D.A. or the prosecutor, I say, you know what, you get right out to that woman the second that you find out it`s this little girl. Not because you feel bad for the mother, but to say to her now, put up or shut up because you might be going to the slammer, too.

And I`ll tell you, that`s the hope, because this guy is the closest I have ever seen, if it is her, given his statement, and what we didn`t find out today, Nancy, I believe he said once I think she`s in this certain area. Then shut up. And quite frankly I think that it`s his time is coming real soon and this mother better get on board or she`s going, I think, with her boyfriend there.
GRACE: You know what, you`re right. She better get on the train or she`s going to be thrown off the train.


All right, Kirby, let`s hear it.

CLEMENTS: No, I actually agree with what he just said. Number one, as to the mother, I don`t think that you can treat her too kindly because of what she`s done. As for the boyfriend, he`s going to -- he`s lawyered up already, he`s want to have to shut up because the things that we do see out there, the fact that he work in an industry that dealt with the type of tanks where this girl`s body was found is problematic.

The fact that it was his mother`s house is devastating, and the fact that he went to work that morning and then left suddenly almost seems like he killed her, went to work then freaked out and ran back home to dispose of the body.

So he`s got some major problems. So as I -- I believe that the police have to put more pressure on the mother because perhaps he said some things to her that might help break this case wide or open than it already is. But it`s going to be a tough -- pretty tough role for the defense.

GRACE: And you know, he`s right, Woody Tripp. You`re a former police commander, Woody, come on, husband and wife, yes, there`s the privilege. Priest, parishioner, yes, there`s a privilege. Attorney-client, yes, that keeps -- that stays a secret, but not if you`re just slung up, all right? That doesn`t count.

So anything that he said to her will come into court unless she`s still in love with him, if there ever is a trial. And he is not a suspect yet, he`s a person of interest. What about it, Tripp?

WOODY TRIPP, FORMER POLICE COMMANDER, POLYGRAPH EXPERT: Well, Nancy, it pains me to have to agree with the defense side in this, but you know, the mother is the link between those two. And it`s her that they`re going to have to appeal to. For whatever conscience she has, whatever is left there, they`ve got to appeal to her. So in addition to the forensics of what`s going on with the body and the bones and the bag, it`s the mother. And the mother is the link. And that`s where they`ve got to go to to place the pressure.

They`ve already caught her lying. She`s already been arrested for that. So there`s a history there, there was a pattern. And they`ve got to go to the mother. That`s the link and I agree with both of them.

GRACE: You know what, what always helps people with their memory problems, a little co-conspirator charge. At this point, nobody is a suspect. The only person of interest in this case right now, the live-in boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, the mother reportedly still slung up with him.
Right now, we are waiting a positive I.D. of these remains.

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Post by Nama on Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:24 pm

A Howard County justice of the peace on Thursday described seeing the remains discovered Tuesday near the Big Spring McMahon-Wrinkle Airport shortly after being called to the scene.

"I saw a skull," Quail Dobbs, Howard County justice of the peace, said. "There was a little hair, and it appeared to be dark in color. I couldn't tell the length."

"It wasn't real big," he said, when asked about the size of the skull he saw.

Despite the fact that the body found Tuesday was obviously dead, Texas law required that an official make a formal pronouncement. On call Tuesday was Dobbs, who was brought in to make that call.

Dobbs said he was brought to the scene Tuesday after the remains had been found by workers at a nearby oil tank manufacturing plant. Big Spring police quickly moved to secure the scene until an FBI evidence recovery team could arrive to process the remains.

Speculation in Big Spring was rampant Wednesday that the remains were those of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn, who vanished from her home in Dec. 2010.

According to the Texas Department of Public Safety missing person file on Hailey Dunn, she is described as 5-foot-0, 125 pounds, with "sandy" colored hair.

Dobbs said the body was the most decomposed skeleton he had seen in his 13 year career as a Justice of the Peace.

Dobbs made the official death pronouncement at 3 p.m. Tuesday, shortly after the remains had been found.

After the FBI team removed the remains, they were sent to the medical examiner's officer in Fort Worth.

A spokeswoman for the Tarrant County Medical Examiners office says as of 1:30 p.m. today the remains had not been received. The remains were to be flown in the, she said, but bad weather had halted the remains from getting to their office to begin the autopsy.

A call to the Big Spring Police Department has not been returned by the Reporter-News.

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Post by Slys Hunny on Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:26 pm

I honestly think she was and is just as involved with this whole thing as Shaun if not shes just plain stupid....
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"I saw a skull," Quail Dobbs, Howard County justice of the peace, said. "There was a little hair, and it appeared to be dark in color. I couldn't tell the length."

"It wasn't real big," he said, when asked about the size of the skull he saw.
Hailey's hair was not what I would call "dark" and the skull would be IMHO, the size of an adults. Her head was easily the size of her mother's, who is petite. Still, I think this is Hailey. No missing children have been reported except for Hailey. Who else could it be?

So, the remains are floating around in airports because of bad weather? OK. Sarcasm

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The hair would be dark = it would be stained from being underground. The skull would be small as well
Hailey was quite small in stature. I believe it is her.
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Post by mommyof3kids on Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:50 pm

I wish they would just come out with a press release already with at least the Sex and size of the remains. We are all in limbo here! We actually care about this young lady unlike her own Mother head bang .
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Post by lisette on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:35 pm

If Billie and Shawn aren't "shacking up", why did he answer the phone when a reporter called Billie yesterday!? Lies grrrr
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GREAT Question. That attorney should have been dis-barred. He's a liar, has major anger problems and is shyster. Perfect person for Billie!

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GREAT Question. That attorney should have been dis-barred. He's a liar, has major anger problems and is shyster. Perfect person for Billie!

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Are the human remains Hailey Dunn?

March 22, 2012 4:22 AM
BY CELINDA HAWKINS

The discovery of human remains in a fenced area near the Big Spring airport Tuesday had many fearing the worst and speculating that the remains were those of Hailey Dunn, who vanished seemingly without a trace Dec. 28, 2010.

Investigators from the FBI’s Evidence Response Team were on the scene Wednesday morning, excavating what appeared to be a shallow grave. The Big Spring police and other agencies have been quick to say that there has been no confirmation as to whether the remains were female or whether they were Hailey’s.

It is hard not to speculate because there has been so much interest in the case.

But it is a fact that the remains were found about one mile, from the mother of the only named suspect, Shawn Adkins, also the boyfriend of Hailey’s mother, Billie Jean Dunn. And the day Hailey disappeared, Adkins went to his mother’s home, investigators said his cell phone pinged at towers around Big Spring.

And as our reporters covered the excavation of the remains yesterday, Facebook and Twitter were burning up with updates, linking the find to the missing Colorado City teen, who would’ve been 14 in August and by now, halfway through with her 9th grade year at Colorado High School.

As I have written before, I began covering the case last January while working for the Abilene Reporter-News. We camped out in Colorado City where we reported constantly on the developments in the case.

Most people who have followed this, know Adkins, was identified early on as the only suspect in the case. And early on, Billie Jean Dunn, Hailey’s mother, asked Adkins to move out of their home after he flunked a polygraph test. She told me she was worried about whether he had anything to do with her disappearance.

Police later confiscated a computer from Adkin’s mother’s home which was found to contain almost 109,000 images of child porn, bestiality and deviant acts. In a closet at the Dunn home in Colorado City, investigators found a box with copies of news stories about serial killers and

David Dunn, Hailey's 16-year-old brother, told he returned home at about 4 p.m. on Dec. 27 and pounded on the door for about five minutes. Later, Billie Dunn confirmed that David had "indeed pounded on the door and nobody would let him in." Upon entering the residence through the window, David Dunn observed Adkins "standing in the hallway with a deer in the headlights look," according to the affidavits.

Adkins never gave any statements to any member of the media except the Associate Press. He told them he had nothing to do with Hailey’s disappearance. He and Billie Jean reunited and now apparently live in Travis County.

His lawyer said the same thing yesterday when I called to confirm that Adkins was in “in the area” of Colorado City, making himself available to the investigators.

The flyers are still up all over town, people have silver signs on their cars (Hope for Hailey) and each week a dwindling group of dedicated volunteers continues the search.

Sheriff Patrick Toombs said both Billie Jean and Adkins were in Colorado City Wednesday afternoon. Adkins’ lawyer told me his client wanted to make himself available to law enforcement and that he wasn’t running and hiding.

Former Colorado City Mayor Jim Baum interviewed Adkins at a recent prayer vigil for Hailey and asked him if he knew anything about her disappearance.

“He just said no,” Baum said.

Baum said he had not seen Adkins in town, yet, but he said the town was buzzing with the news of the find.

He added that folks just have to be patient and wait for the results of the forensic investigation to be released.

“This is not a one-hour movie that ends in an hour,” Baum said.

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I don't believe that it will take weeks to identify the remains. fingertap
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I don't either LM.
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ABILENE, Texas -- The process of identifying the remains that were found in Big Spring Tuesday afternoon is underway.
The remains have been described as partially mummified, which may be helpful in aiding with identification.
“The mummification of the soft tissue is going to occur surrounding where the environment is very dry,” said Lauri Martin, a forensic anthropology instructor with the University of Texas system.
Big Spring has been experiencing just such conditions over the last 15 months: It's been hot and dry. The area has received only about 6 inches of rain.
The human body starts to mummify when it loses fluid through evaporation. Thus, a buried body in such a condition will remain somewhat preserved.
For example, comparing a body that's been left unburied for a week to one that has been buried will produce a huge difference in terms of deterioration.
“If it's buried, that's going to slow down the decomposition process quite a bit,” Martin said.
The Big Spring remains found Tuesday are now with the Tarrant County Medical Examiner’s Office for analysis. An anthropology lab will also examine the remains.
Experts will be looking for any identifying marks – including scars, tattoos and other marks.
“If you've got the mummification of that soft tissue, you would still have identifiable soft tissue marks,” Martin said.
When the remains are identified in Tarrant County, the Howard County Sheriff's Office will be notified.
Many people are interested in finding out whether the remains are that of Hailey Dunn, a Colorado City teenager missing since Dec. 27, 2010.
However, the Tarrant County medical examiner told KTXS News the process of identifying the remains may take some time.
Authorities believe the remains were at the Big Spring site from six months to two years.
The anthropology lab will first attempt to determine who the victim is by fingerprints.
If a fingerprint is not found, officials will do a dental exam to see if the teeth match any dental records.
DNA identification is a third option, and this would be the most likely option if the remains are badly decomposed.http://www.ktxs.com/news/30741433/detail.html

If this is HL, I am sure they will be able to determine cause of death even after a year! Looks like the body was WELL wrapped up! Good Job Sean if this is her!! He sunk his own ship....
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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:36 pm

Sheriff: Autopsy on human remains could take weeks

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Tarrant County is still trying to identify a partially mummified skeleton found near the Big Spring airport. Sources close to the investigation say it could be missing 13-year-old Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn.

Colorado City is in Mitchell County. The Sheriff for Mitchell County, Patrick Toombs, was in Big Spring observing the removal of the body Wednesday. He says the autopsy could take nearly three weeks. However, the gender of the remains could be determined within the next few days.

Coming up tonight at 6 we will have a live interview with Lubbock County Medical Examiner about the autopsy process.

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Post by gnreed on Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:41 pm

Sheriff Toombs was interviewed on KTAB TV by Jessica Reyes.
Toombs stated, "We will sit back and wait and see what evidence turns up at the scene."

John Young was also interviewed. He stated, "We hope Shawn is not involved but if he is charged, Billie will certainly cooperate with authorities to get to the bottom of it."

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Post by Nama on Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:48 pm

The Howard County Justice of the Peace said he saw a skull with hair, the judge announced as part of a death pronouncement Thursday at the Big Spring airport following the discovery of human remains there days before.

“It was kind of small,” Judge Quail Dobbs said. “The hair was a dark color and it was highly decomposed – more decomposed than any person I’ve ever pronounced.”

Since the Tuesday discovery, speculation has been rampant that the remains are those of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn. Big Spring police have not linked the find to Hailey Dunn, missing since December 2010. Big Spring police and other investigators insist they do not know the person’s identity and that forensic experts will have to make that determination.

Members of the Big Spring Police Department, the FBI Evidence Response Team, the Texas Rangers, Colorado City Police Department and Mitchell County Sheriff’s Office investigated the scene around Desert Tanks near McMahon-Wrinkle Airport where welders found the parts of a deceased human Tuesday afternoon.

The remains were to have been flown Wednesday to the Tarrant County Medical Examiner’s Office in Fort Worth. By 3 p.m. Thursday, the decedent material had not been received, said Linda Anderson, a spokeswoman for the ME’s office.

“They (the remains) have not arrived due to bad weather,” Anderson

Sweetwater attorney John Young, who is representing Hailey’s mother, Billie Jean Dunn, said the remains were found in a “plastic bag with deteriorating clothing.”

According to the FBI, at the time of her disappearance, Hailey was wearing blue sweat pants, a short sleeved shirt and pink and white tennis shoes. Hailey is described as 5 feet tall, with light brown hair.

On Wednesday, investigators worked to remove the remains that were discovered by two employees of Desert Tank in Big Spring.

“I really don’t know what they saw,” said Randy Phillips, who co-owns Desert Tank and owns Phillips Fabrication.

Phillips was there when investigators put a tank lid over the remains late Tuesday afternoon to protect the evidence from a looming storm.

“I saw something white,” Phillips said. “But really, out of respect for who is there and law enforcement, I did not think it was my business.”

Shawn Adkins, the former live-in boyfriend of Hailey’s mother, Billie Jean Dunn, is the only named suspect in the case and the last person to see her alive, according to police. Adkins and Billie Dunn moved to the Austin area last June. However, Billie Dunn’s attorney John Young insists the two are no longer in a romantic relationship.

The location of the remains has caused much of the speculation, since they were found less than two miles from Adkins’ mother’s home on Apache Drive in Big Spring. Affidavits show that Adkins went to his mother’s home the morning Hailey went missing.

But both Adkins and Billie Dunn are said to be in the Colorado City area, staying with family, awaiting the results of the investigation.

Young reported Wednesday that Billie Dunn was “understandably upset,” after hearing that the remains were discovered. Young said law enforcement did not contact his client about the find.

“We came on our own after we heard about it,” Young said.

Big Spring Police Sgt. Tony Everett said the cases for adult men William Arlin Bynum, missing since 2003, and Bobby Marquez Jr., since 1998, are both still open.

Bynum was last seen at a bar in downtown Big Spring. His mother, Deanna Hartford, told CBS 7 that after hearing the remains were found she wants closure.

“We would like for it to be him so we could have some closure and give him a resting place,” said Hartford told CBS 7.

Bobby Marquez Jr., 29, disappeared in 1998 after he was last seen at a friend’s house. Marquez’s uncle Raul Marquez told CBS 7 he agrees with Hartford’s feelings.

“The family still wants some closure to it and you always hope that that’s it so that we can close the case and move on with life,” said Marquez. But Marquez and his family are not too sure the remains found are his nephew Bobby Jr.

“I’ve talked to some of the other family members and they also feel that it might not be Bobby Jr. because of the location,” Marquez told CBS 7.

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A HUGE BS to bad weather in Fort Worth. There was a 30% chance of rain today. That's it. GMAB!!!!!! They could have driven the remains there easily!

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Sweetwater attorney John Young, who is representing Hailey’s mother, Billie Jean Dunn, said the remains were found in a “plastic bag with deteriorating clothing.”
I would think that they already have an idea by the cloths whose remains those are.
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