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IMAGES: The jail cell Bob Bashara is in

Published On: Jun 26 2012 03:31:38 PM EDT Updated On: Jun 26 2012 04:07:31 PM EDT

Bob Bashara is in the same jail cell that once held former Detroit Mayor, Kwame Kilpatrick

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Post by Wrapitup on Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:18 am

OK .. have fun .... LOL ... but nothing is really there ... just a forum with 3 registered members ...
Maybe will be just a back up of my posts

My own Sand Box to play in, so to speak

A sandbox can get overcrowded, ya know. IMHO

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Darkman wrote:IMAGES: The jail cell Bob Bashara is in

Published On: Jun 26 2012 03:31:38 PM EDT Updated On: Jun 26 2012 04:07:31 PM EDT

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Post by Darkman on Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:24 am

Speaking of two devils.... ;)

A Blast at Rotary's the Winter Blast
Rotarians from all around District 6400 came together to assist in the collection of books, clothing and food for the 3-Million Pound Challenge at the Winter Blast in Detroit, February 12-14. Under the leadership of Grosse Pointe Rotary President Bob Bashara and GP Rotarian Mike Carmody, the group collected more than 420,000 pounds in a 3-day period. A great (chilly) time was had by all!

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Bobby at Fireworks 2011 (thanks for the tip, OhWow)



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Bob & Rachel ... and they DO look VERY happy here!

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Dateline NBC - Bashara Special, extra web episode:

Family friend remembers Bashara couple

Season 2012 : Episode 0511

May 11: A family friend, Kim Towar, shares her thoughts and memories on Bob and Jane Bashara. This web extra video is from the Dateline report 'Secret in the Suburbs' from Friday, May 11th.

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P.S. If "borrow" those to other site(s), it's appreciated that you credit the site you took them from or who provided them to you, and NOT simply "take 'em" ;)
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Post by Wrapitup on Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:48 am

Gotta say, they DO look 'happy' but look at some of the pics of TMLS aka Casey, w/Caylee. She (TMLS -
"The Murdering Lying Slut") looks happy so.....

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I agree. No matter what site it is.

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"Happiness is like a butterfly; the more you chase it, the more it eludes you. But if you turn your atttention to other things, it comes and sits softly on your shoulder."

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Bashara arrested

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According to Griem, he and the Park police had an agreement if Bashara was going to be charged in the murder of his wife, police would notify Griem, who would accompany Bashara to the station to turn himself in.

"But apparently that was only the case if he was going to be charged in Jane's murder," Griem said. "He has not been arrested for the murder of Jane. I did not anticipate this."

Griem said he expected his client to be arraigned on Wednesday in Detroit's 36th District Court. He also said he doesn't believe Bashara will be released on bail.

"Oh, there will not be any bail in this case, and he is going to be in jail for a long time," Griem said.

Shortly after Bashara's mother left police headquarters, his aunt, Gwenn Samuel, arrived. She spoke briefly with Griem, before returning to her car, where she admitted his arrest came as a surprise to everyone.

"This is such an injustice," she said of her nephew's arrest. "This has destroyed his life. We firmly believe he did not have anything to do with Jane's death."

She said she did not believe the Bashara children knew about the arrest, and she was on her way to be with Nancy Bashara.

"You are talking to someone who loves him very much," she said. "The truth will come out."

While members of the Bashara family were shocked by his arrest, a neighbor of Bob Bashara's on Middlesex said she was relieved.

"I have to say I'm going to be sleeping better tonight knowing he is in jail," she said on the condition her name not be used.

"Jane Bashara was a lovely person and it has not been easy watching him go about his business every day," she said. "This has been difficult for us because at first we supported Bob, but now we feel betrayed."

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Shortly after Bashara's mother left police headquarters, his aunt, Gwenn Samuel, arrived. She spoke briefly with Griem, before returning to her car, where she admitted his arrest came as a surprise to everyone.

"This is such an injustice," she said of her nephew's arrest. "This has destroyed his life. We firmly believe he did not have anything to do with Jane's death."
Typical family member in denial.

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Have I welcomed you to VH darkman. If not welcome2
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Post by Darkman on Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:18 pm

Thanks, lindamarie ... Here is the latest:

Attorneys for Gentz, Bashara fight over filings

11:16 PM, June 30, 2012

By Joe Swickard
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Defense attorney Susan Reed is asking that Bob Bashara’s lawyer be held in contempt of court for issuing unauthorized subpoenas for the work records of her client, handyman Joe Gentz, who’s accused of killing Bashara’s wife.

The motion was filed Friday in Detroit’s 36th District Court and asks for Griem to testify under oath about any material he got through improper subpoenas — action the motion labeled “criminal abuse of process.”

“David Griem had no authority to do what he did,” Reed said Saturday. “This is just not something that you can let go. He needs to be held accountable.”

Griem sent out subpoenas in May, saying he was seeking information about Gentz for a pending criminal case against Bashara. However, there was no pending criminal case when he sent out the subpoenas and Michigan court rules prohibit private attorneys issuing subpoenas when there is no case.

The subpoenas came to light when one of the recipients contacted Reed.

Told of Reed’s motion Saturday evening, Griem said her action came without warning. He also said it was her second attempt to have him punished and that she’s formed an “unholy alliance” with Wayne County assistant prosecutor Lisa Lindsey.

He said Reed is “trying to get a second bite of the apple.”

“There’s already been a hearing on this issue and I guess she didn’t like the outcome,” he said.

Griem was called before Presiding Judge Timothy Kenny of the Wayne County Circuit Court criminal division in June and was told to inform anyone who got a subpoena not to honor it.

On Saturday, Griem said Reed sat near the prosecutors during the hearing before Kenny, an indication, he said, of the forces arrayed against Bashara.

“This is tag-team match where they take turns beating up on Bob Bashara,” he said.

Maria Miller, spokeswoman for the Wayne County Prosecutor’s Office, said, “There is no legal authority for Griem to issue a subpoena in a nonexistent case. Reed is certainly acting appropriately as Gentz’s attorney to protect his rights by filing the motion.” She had no comment on Griem’s allegations that Reed is aligned with the prosecutor’s office. No date has been set for any action on Reed’s motion.

The subpoena fracas flared just days before Bashara’s arrest Monday on charges he was trying to recruit a hitman to kill Gentz in the Wayne County Jail, where is being held on murder and conspiracy charges.

Investigators have said Gentz told them Bob Bashara hired him to kill his wife, Jane Bashara, who disappeared from her Grosse Pointe Park home in January.

The next day, she was found strangled in the back seat of her Mercedes-Benz SUV that was ditched in an east side Detroit alley.

Bashara has not been charged with the killing but was termed a person of interest early in the investigation.

Griem said Bashara’s arrest for solicitation to murder undercuts any bargaining leverage Reed hoped to use to get Gentz a deal in exchange for his testimony against Bashara.

“Her negotiations took a terrible hit when Bob Bashara got arrested because he’s now facing a life felony and they don’t need Joe Gentz’s testimony,” Griem said.

Gentz is undergoing a second evaluation to see if he is mentally competent to stand trial. A state evaluation found him competent and Reed requested a private evaluation of his mental condition.

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I am impressed with your post darkman. I have not followed this case real close. I plan to follow along more closely with your help.
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"If tears could build a stairway,
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"Jane Bashara’s birth family, the Engelbrecht family, would like to make it clear that they are in no way affiliated with the J4J (Bob Bashara's family) Facebook page which states it is an official, family-run forum."

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Post by Darkman on Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:30 am

lol,

What? :)

Oh!... I see .. "Scary!!" ... hehe

Here is the lawyer on the opposite site of this complaint .. Bob's lawyer, David Griem:

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Geez!!!

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Post by Darkman on Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:58 am

More Twists In Bashara Case: Joe Gentz's Attorney Goes After Bashara's Lawyer

July 1st, 2012, 8:40 AM

At this point, don't be surprised by any craziness and twists and turns in the Bob Bashara case.

The latest: The attorney for Joe Gentz, the man charged with killing Bashara's wife Jane earlier this year, has filed a motion asking that Bashara's attorney be held in contempt of court...

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I thought the Anthony case was messed up until I read about his one. Bob seems to be a lot like KC. Thinking he is smarter than anyone else and that he could get away with murder.
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"May the road rise up to meet you,
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Post by Darkman on Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:19 am

pulling hair ... hehehe ... pulling hair

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Master Bob and Slave Joe

July 02, 2012

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Lady Giana returns to the Charlie Langton Show. The dominatrix alleges that Bob Bashara and his handyman/hitman Joe Gentz had a master-slave relationship. Giana claims this relationship would make it easier for Bashara to get Gentz to kill his wife.

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Post by Darkman on Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:50 am

Dominantrix Says Gentz Was Bashara’s ‘Sex Slave’

July 2, 2012 10:34 AM

DETROIT (Talk Radio 1270) Dominatrix Lady Giana, who was the first person to reveal Bob Bashara’s alleged sex dungeon and ties to the world of sadomasochism, called the Charlie Langton Talk Radio 1270 show Monday with new revelations.

She thinks handyman Joe Gentz, who allegedly killed Jane Bashara at her husband’s request in exchange for some cash and a car, was involved in Bashara’s world as his own personal “sex slave.” Bashara was arrested and charged last week with solicitation of murder for allegedly offering more than one person money in exchange for killing Gentz before his next court hearing.

Prosecutors say Bashara delivered $2,000 to an informant who offered to kill Gentz for him.

“Joe was his slave, Joe would do what he was told,” Lady Giana said on the show. “If Bob was doing any type of demonstration he would probably use Joe as his slave. He would be tying up Joe, flogging him, whipping him, bisexual activity could be going on.

“… He did do demonstrations of the whipping of Joe, bondage of Joe … He was his slave so he would serve Bob in any way, shape or form that he wanted … He could’ve been turned into his sex slave.”

She said this information was gleaned with discussion from 20 or more people she knows in the local S&M scene. “I got phone calls, people were telling me all of what was going on at the parties … and that Joe Gentz was definitely his slave and would do what Bob told him to do.”

Would Gentz kill for Bashara? Langton asked. “Yes,” Lady Giana said, adding, “Joe, intelligent-wise, he had to be told what to do … His mentality, he had to be told what to do.”

So why didn’t she tell his story as soon as Gentz was arrested?

“The information that I’ve gathered … I didn’t want to say it at the time until he was arrested … I was getting calls, threatening calls,” Lady Giana said. “They did participate in the slave parties together and Bob was the master, Joe being his slave. Joe would do whatever master Bob would tell him to do.”

She said many told her they saw Gentz, who rented from Bashara and reportedly served as his handyman, at the sex dungeon. And she believes Gentz and Bashara may have had some kind of written contract, which is how slaves and masters generally assure their relationship.

“Literally slave contracts are made, with ownership,” she said. “I’m sure maybe when the police dig around a little more they’ll probably find a contract of some sort with Joe.”

Lady Giana knows Bashara and his sex dungeon friends, she said, because he tried to hire her to host parties at his S&M club. She said she knew him only as “Master Bob.”

“It was a complete S&M show underneath his bar,” she said about the Hard Luck Lounge, now closed, that Bashara owned in Grosse Pointe Park.

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Post by Guest on Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:15 pm

Nice post darkman. As I read more of your posts I realize that I know very little of this case. It is all so sorted. But it looks like LE is finally getting some much needed breaks thanks to the people who are brave enough to come forward.
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Post by Darkman on Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:19 pm

Dominatrix claims in radio interview Bob Bashara and Joe Gentz had affair

Published: Monday, July 02, 2012

By MITCH HOTTS
For The Oakland Press

A Detroit-area dominatrix on Monday called a radio talk show to claim Bob Bashara had a “master-slave” sex relationship with the man accused of killing his wife, Mount Clemens native Jane Bashara.

Lady Geanna, who revealed Bashara’s ties to an alleged sex dungeon and sadomasochist lifestyle, told the Charlie Langton show on WXYT-AM (1270) that handyman Joe Gentz was Bob Bashara’s personal sex slave, who willingly did whatever Bashara told him to do, and the two had a written contract that spelled out the dynamics of their relationship, which involved “extensive role playing.”

“(Joe) would serve Bob in any way, shape or form that Bob wanted,” she said, according to the station’s website recording of her comments.

Asked by Langton whether Gentz would kill for Bashara, Lady Geanna said yes because Gentz — who court records say has emotional and psychological issues — did whatever he was told to do.

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Bashara’s attorney said the dominatrix lacks credibility and is seeking media attention for financial reasons to talk about her “few seconds of fame.” He said Bashara has never met her and offered to take a polygraph exam to prove it.

“Bob Bashara doesn’t even know her yet she keeps managing to push her way in front of reporters and microphones and the end result is she’s making more money now than she ever has in her career,” Griem said. “Pretty soon only the National Enquirer is going to be reporting on this, that’s the depth we’ve sunk to on this case, which can only be described as the theater of the absurd.”

This past February, Lady Geanna told the radio station about the S&M dungeon located in the basement behind the Hard Luck Lounge on Mack Avenue in Grosse Pointe Park. A few days later, the bar closed and the dungeon equipment was moved out.

Lady Geanna told the station on Monday that her information on the relationship between Bob Bashara and Gentz was based on discussions she has had with close to two dozen people in the underground S&M scene. She said Bashara would sometimes use Gentz in bondage demonstrations at slave parties.
She also said she’s received numerous threatening phone calls for publicly talking about Bashara.

Langton, a Sterling Heights attorney who hosts the morning radio talk show, said he believes the dominatrix is credible based on her past comments that turned out to be true.

“But from a legal standpoint, everything she said today should be viewed as hearsay,” he said.

“I think she does have a sense of what’s going on in the S&M industry. And I think it’s common knowledge that Bashara had at least one girlfriend, so if he was into the S&M or swingers scene, a master-slave relationship with Joe Gentz fits the mold.”

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Post by Darkman on Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:35 am

Much of the same...

Was handyman Bashara’s sex slave?

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Post by Darkman on Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:51 am

Lawyers dismiss sex-slave talk between Bob Bashara and Joe Gentz

July 3, 2012

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GROSSE POINTE PARK

Defense attorney Susan Reed said Monday that she knows of nothing to support speculation on a morning radio talk show that her client Joe Gentz was in a subservient relationship with Bob Bashara, whose wife Jane Bashara was killed in January.

"I have no information that tells me that Joseph Gentz was Bob Bashara's sex slave," Reed said.

Dominatrix Lady Geanna, who first exposed Bashara's alleged sex dungeon in Grosse Pointe Park, called the Charlie Langton Talk Radio 1270 show Monday, saying she received reports the two men were in a slave-master relationship.

The speculation is just the latest turn in the bizarre murder case. Gentz is charged with killing Jane Bashara in January after he told police he did so at her husband's behest. Last week, Bashara was arrested on charges of allegedly trying to hire a hit man to kill Gentz.

"Just when you think can't get more absurd, something like this comes along," Bashara's attorney David Griem said. "There's absolutely no truth to this."

Bashara has not been charged with his wife's death but has been called a person of interest and termed a suspect in court hearings.

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Post by Darkman on Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:05 am

Dominatrix: Joe Gentz was Bob Bashara's sex slave

Posted: Jul 03, 2012 6:07 AM CDT
Updated: Jul 03, 2012 6:16 AM CDT
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SOUTHFIELD, Mich. (WJBK) -
A local dominatrix says the man charged in the murder of a Grosse Pointe woman was more than just an alleged hitman.

She goes by the name of Lady Geanna and she tells FOX 2 that dozens of S&M insiders say they've seen it first-hand and are convinced that Joe Gentz was Bob Bashara's sex slave.

"Bob would have a show. He would charge fees. There would be a show and Joe would be the one being worked over," says Lady Geanna. "He was whipping him, flogging him, candle wax poured on him."

Lady Geanna admits she's never actually seen the alleged sexual activities involving Bashara and Gentz and she's only spoken with Bashara once over the phone. But, she's sticking to her story. "I knew it all along that that's what was going on."

Bashara is accused of hiring Gentz earlier this year to kill his wife Jane. Now, he's behind bars for allegedly hiring another hitman to kill Gentz.

An attorney for Bashara did not return FOX 2's calls but has said the dominatrix is just trying to get a few seconds of fame.


A photo of local dominatrix Lady Geanna

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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:09 am

"Just when you think can't get more absurd, something like this comes along," Bashara's attorney David Griem said. "There's absolutely no truth to this."

Of course all of this is being denied. I believe that Dominatrix Lady Geanna has nothing to gain by coming forward with this information.
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Post by Darkman on Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:48 am

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The love that's deep within me,
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You'll feel it from the heavens,
And it will heal the scars."




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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:05 pm

I see where a preliminary exam has been scheduled to begin July 24 and Griem hinted in court that it may be a two-day hearing.
http://grossepointe.patch.com/articles/15m-cash-only-bond-set-in-bashara-case#photo-10466784

I sure hope the Judge hold him to protect the witnesses. My heart skips a beat when I think about him getting out. That sick pervert belongs behind bars.
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Found her, lol ... that Lady Geanna ... She changed her name now ... on her websites anyhow (as she was mentioning on Charlie Langton Show yesterday) .. from Lady Geanna to Mistress Breanna :)

Here is her same pic (with the one above) directly from her Website: (click on Spoiler below to view)

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Sources: (couple of her websites, under Spoiler below)

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Post by Guest on Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:03 am

There sure is adult content when you enter the site. Looks like from the picture by the car she is making good money. Does she charge for her services? Bare with me darkman as I am still new to this case.
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Post by Darkman on Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:03 am

Yes she does, lindamarie

.... and in Radio interview to Charlie Langton (somewhere in above posts of mine) she tells how much and for which services :)

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It can't take away our memories either.
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Post by Wrapitup on Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:07 pm

Dominatrix says Bashara had 'master-slave' relationship with handyman Joe Gentz

Published: Tuesday, July 03, 2012
By Mitch hotts

A Detroit-area dominatrix on Monday called a radio talk show to claim Bob Bashara had a “master-slave” sex relationship with the man accused of killing his wife, Mount Clemens native Jane Bashara.

Lady Geanna, who revealed Bashara’s ties to an alleged sex dungeon and sadomasochist lifestyle, told the Charlie Langton show on WXYT-AM (1270) that handyman Joe Gentz was Bob Bashara’s personal sex slave, who willingly did whatever Bashara told him to do, and the two had a written contract that spelled out the dynamics of their relationship, which involved “extensive role playing.”

“(Joe) would serve Bob in any way, shape or form that Bob wanted,” she said, according to the station’s website recording of her comments.

Asked by Langton whether Gentz would kill for Bashara, Lady Geanna said yes because Gentz — who court records say has emotional and psychological issues — did whatever he was told to do.

Gentz has been charged with first-degree murder for the strangulation of Jane Bashara and is being held in Wayne County’s Dickerson Detention Facility as his defense attorney works to secure an independent mental evaluation after a court-ordered mental exam found him competent. He reportedly told investigators that Bashara paid or forced him to kill Jane Bashara.

Bob Bashara was arrested last week and charged with solicitation of murder for allegedly trying to hire a hit man to kill Gentz before his next court hearing later this month. Prosecutors say he paid $2,000 to an informant to kill the former handyman and prevent him from implicating Bashara in his wife’s murder.

Bashara’s attorney said the dominatrix lacks credibility and is seeking media attention for financial reasons to talk about her “few seconds of fame.” He said Bashara has never met her and offered to take a polygraph exam to prove it.

“Bob Bashara doesn’t even know her yet she keeps managing to push her way in front of reporters and microphones and the end result is she’s making more money now than she ever has in her career,” Griem said. “Pretty soon only the National Enquirer is going to be reporting on this, that’s the depth we’ve sunk to on this case, which can only be described as the theater of the absurd.”

This past February, Lady Geanna told the radio station about the S&M dungeon located in the basement behind the Hard Luck Lounge on Mack Avenue in Grosse Pointe Park. A few days later, the bar closed and the dungeon equipment was moved out.

Lady Geanna told the station on Monday that her information on the relationship between Bob Bashara and Gentz was based on discussions she has had with close to two dozen people in the underground S&M scene. She said Bashara would sometimes use Gentz in bondage demonstrations at slave parties.

She also said she’s received numerous threatening phone calls for publicly talking about Bashara.

Langton, a Sterling Heights attorney who hosts the morning radio talk show, said he believes the dominatrix is credible based on her past comments that turned out to be true.

“But from a legal standpoint, everything she said today should be viewed as hearsay,” he said.

“I think she does have a sense of what’s going on in the S&M industry. And I think it’s common knowledge that Bashara had at least one girlfriend, so if he was into the S&M or swingers scene, a master-slave relationship with Joe Gentz fits the mold.”

Bashara has been named a person of interest in the death of his wife, who was strangled in her garage and her body moved to Detroit where it was found a day later on Jan. 25.

Bashara, who is being held in the Wayne County Jail in lieu of $15 million bond, faces a preliminary exam on July 24 in Detroit’s 36th District Court.

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life holds so many facets, this earth is only one.
Just think of her as resting, from the sorrows and the tears,
in a place of warmth and comfort, where there are no days and years.
Think how she must be wishing, that we could know today,
how nothing but our sadness, can really pass away.
And think of her as living, in the hearts of those she touched...
for nothing loved is ever lost, and she was loved so much.--E. Brenneman"




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Darkman wrote:Today's new "one" from [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

"Don't think of her as gone away, her journey's just begun,
life holds so many facets, this earth is only one.
Just think of her as resting, from the sorrows and the tears,
in a place of warmth and comfort, where there are no days and years.
Think how she must be wishing, that we could know today,
how nothing but our sadness, can really pass away.
And think of her as living, in the hearts of those she touched...
for nothing loved is ever lost, and she was loved so much.--E. Brenneman"




"Jane Bashara’s birth family, the Engelbrecht family, would like to make it clear that they are in no way affiliated with the J4J (Bob Bashara's family) Facebook page which states it is an official, family-run forum."
Looks like that "Bob Bashara's family FB page" is "done" now (currently anyhow) ... removed etc...

If click on the link to their FB page ... -- nothing is there now!
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Post by Darkman on Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:25 pm

Ya.. That's normal..

When any FB page is "no longer" .. and you go to it... - it defaults you to your own page (if you are registered at FB of course) :)
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Post by Wrapitup on Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:46 pm

Darkman, you have me ROFLMAO ROFLMAO ROFLMAO w/the 'little sandbox' comment.

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Post by Darkman on Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:21 am

Ya ... LOL .. Cuz "It's my sandbox and I play (there) if I want to" :)

No Bans there ... unless I am going to Ban myself, LOL :)
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Post by Wrapitup on Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:25 am

That may be the only place you are safe!

JK....not banning you here.

BTW, Val has started a website. If you go back, I sure hope we don't lose you. You're quite interesting..sandbox and all.
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