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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:42 pm

Did she feel completely loved when they weren't having sex? Yes. Then says something stupid..says he had NOT told her he loved her since they began officially dating. Makes no sense.

They went to Disneyland..they somewhat acted like gf and bf..says her inner turmoil w/the knowledge he was cheating bothered her but they got along pretty well.

Trip comes to an end..she doesn't remember where she stayed..they were in Riverside. She had planned to "drop the bomb in Riverside that she was going to break up but she could not get the courage to tell him."


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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:46 pm

She was mad at herself for not breaking up w/him so realized she would have to break up w/him on the phone. They Did have the talk she was dreading, over the phone. She told him "his phone has been a source of the problem..she felt bad for violating his privacy,blablabla..and he was apologetic. Said his apology was weak. Indirectly said they should break up (paraphrasing). So, they "essentially" broke up over the phone on June 29, 2007.

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:49 pm

Says he called her the next morning..she was in Big Sur. BS

She understood he was still in SO CAL. She could have hung up on him IMHO.

Says the conversation turned "sexual". Starts to go into detail..says he was 'horny'. State objects, they are in sidebar.

I don't believe any of this. She never broke it off, she called and chased HIM.

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Post by FeatherPony on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:53 pm

samgoodwin wrote:aww, she was a doormat.

she had no SELF-ESTEEM, doncha know Suspect
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Post by samgoodwin on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:54 pm

Supposedly Travis was at Chris and Hughes house at the time of this call. I'd love to hear their side of this.

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:54 pm

Back from sidebar. She says the phone conversation was "sexual". She doesn't remember exactly. BS She had just broken up w/him the afternoon before. Did she find it strange he called? She felt sort of strange but also better as she really had no self esteem at this time..says he had promised to change, the other women didn't matter. He'll swear he'll change, bla bla bla, so she continued to be intimate w/him. Says she would not hung up on him as he was not being mean..asking why she would even talk to him..he promised to change. Why did she pick up the phone to begin with? She picked up out of "habit". BS

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:54 pm

samgoodwin wrote:Supposedly Travis was at Chris and Hughes house at the time of this call. I'd love to hear their side of this.

Amen!

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:57 pm

She does not remember specifics..they were erotic..made her feel sexy and attractive so she talked to him.

They start calling at night or very late like 4am..back to the routine. So, they are talking about getting back together again..he is telling her that he loves her..says jokingly talked about marriage/kids/future. Says she still feels he has the potential to change. la la la

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:59 pm

Now, it's early July, 2007. FGS!!We still have almost a year to go!!

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Post by samgoodwin on Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:00 pm

LOL, Wrap. My thoughts exactly. It's going to take her all week to get to 2008. Ugh.

Yaaay, lunch break.
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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:00 pm

Breaking for lunch. :zzzzz:

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:00 pm

Agree on all your above posts, Sam. LOLZZZ

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Post by FeatherPony on Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:05 pm

Wrapitup wrote:
samgoodwin wrote:She's saying she went on the trip with Travis even though she knew he was cheating because she didn't want to cause problems. She's such a noble little martyr.
Can't believe anyone would buy what she is attempting to sell.

I sure hope the jury isn't crap
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PHOENIX February 11, 2013 (AP)

A woman charged with killing her lover in his Arizona home after a lust-filled day of sex and raunchy photographs told jurors Monday that she once awoke from sleeping in his bed to find the victim having sex with her.

Jodi Arias, 32, faces the death penalty if convicted of first-degree murder in the killing of Travis Alexander in June 2008.

Arias testified last week in Phoenix about the volatile relationship that culminated with Alexander's death. Prosecutors claim Arias killed him in a jealous rage, stabbing and slashing him 27 times, slitting his throat and shooting him in the head.

Arias says it was self-defense after initially telling authorities she wasn't there. She then blamed it on masked intruders. She now claims Alexander attacked her, forcing her to fight for her life.

In provocative testimony during three days on the stand last week, Arias recounted her troubled childhood marred by abuse at the hands of her parents, a string of bad relationships and struggles to pay bills. She later described for jurors in graphic detail how Alexander made repeated sexual advances all while converting her into the Mormon faith during their heated initial courtship.

Defense attorneys have been trying to portray Alexander as a hypocrite, liar and philanderer in hopes of gaining sympathy from jurors. Arias has described Alexander as a domineering womanizer who belittled her, called her derogatory names and used her for sex throughout their stormy five-month relationship, and even afterward, as the pair continued to see each other for trysts.

On Monday, she described an encounter with Alexander in May 2007, about a year before his death, when she was sleeping in his bed and awoke to find him having sexual intercourse with her.

"He was on top of me, and had already penetrated and started having sex with me," Arias said.

She said she didn't tell him to stop but the sex made her uncomfortable because she felt it violated the teachings of the Mormon church, which discourages sex before marriage.

Defense attorney Kirk Nurmi asked why she felt the sex while she slept was OK.

"I felt like I was partially responsible because I went to sleep next to him. I was wearing a T-shirt, cute shorts," Arias said. "I just felt like being in his bed, sleeping there, it wasn't entirely his fault, like maybe it was invited."

Her testimony has been an unusual mix of Mormon theology and X-rated descriptions of their relationship, including naked pictures of Alexander displayed for the jury.

Alexander, a Mormon, persuaded Arias to become a member of the church and performed her baptism in late 2006, she said.

On the same day that he baptized her, Arias said the two went into a bedroom, and engaged in sexual intercourse she called painful. Alexander told her the sex was OK under Mormon teachings because their encounter did not involve vaginal intercourse.

She said she felt like a prostitute at times because of Alexander's emotional detachment, but she stayed with him because she liked him even after some of his own friends urged her to break it off.

She said she first met Alexander at a Las Vegas convention in late 2006 after years of bad relationships. The two almost immediately began a steamy relationship which they carried on long distance between her home in California and his in Mesa, Ariz.

She claims they dated for about five months, then broke up but continued to see each other for sex, and that she came to Alexander's home on June 4, 2008, the day of the killing, at his urging. Alexander's friends said she stalked him after the breakup and became possessive and jealous.

Authorities said they found Arias' hair and bloody palm print at the scene, along with time-stamped photographs on a memory card in a camera discovered inside Alexander's washing machine that place Arias there on the day he died. The photos included one of Arias nude on his bed, one of Alexander lying on the bed, and one of his body crumpled on the floor of his shower.

The trial began in early January. Defense attorneys have yet to explain why Arias apparently attempted to clean the scene, washing Alexander's bedding and the camera, and what happened to the weapons.

Authorities say Alexander was shot in the head with a .25 caliber gun, the same caliber Arias' grandparents reported stolen from their Northern California home about a week before the killing.

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:50 pm

Jean Casarus & Beth Karas are saying they got a hold of the 77 page document re: him masturbating to boys pics..no detail about what's in the photo..never found in the search warrant..no internet sites visited..the photos were on his bed. Not a lot of detail in the transcripts but there was physical abuse after her finding him looking at those pics.

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:53 pm

Bryan Carr, the alleged new bf of Jodi's, w/be on JVM tonight. la la la

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:14 pm

Vinnie P said the transcripts say TA was kneeling by the bed w/pics of young boys on the bed masturbating..she saw him and HE KICKED HER.

JVM is saying that MOST men w/go online to look at these type of pics. I agree. They CANNOT prove it. LE found NO such pics. It's ALL heresay. Still cannot believe the judge let this in.

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:16 pm

Jean is saying that the defense is accusing the prosecution of knowing about these allegations for 3 years and that they are just now requesting they not be allowed..that had the defense known this 3 years ago, they would not have put JA on the stand. Makes Zero sense!!

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:36 pm

It's back on.

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:39 pm

She is saying TA wanted her to either move to Mesa or move to SO CAL & not live so far..but then she discovered he was cheating on her..she didn't want to throw TA under the bus, talked to her gf, Rachel, who said "move to Meza anyway." She says she was "on the fence" about moving to Meza..TA painted a good picture about moving there..said there were a lot of LDS women in Meza she could stay with and she could store all her stuff at his house. Said he said they could 'hang out' and figure things out. Hanging out involved sexual activity. She doesn't know "mileage" re: how far she lived from TA. BS

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Wrapitup wrote:Bryan Carr, the alleged new bf of Jodi's, w/be on JVM tonight. la la la

Absolutely not watching that! LOL
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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:42 pm

samgoodwin wrote:Ha, they just showed the court room and her dad is falling asleep too.
missed that. LOL

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Wrapitup wrote:Bryan Carr, the alleged new bf of Jodi's, w/be on JVM tonight. la la la

IMO he sees himself as a white knight defending this 'nicest person you will ever meet' princess but doesn't realize he's being manipulated and is only fodder for her defense. On some level I feel sorry for him. my 2 cents
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Post by samgoodwin on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:45 pm

My ears are bleeding. Can't she just ever answer yes or no? She just goes on and on and on.
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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:46 pm

JA moved in w/Rachel..objection..heresay.

Lived w/R and bf for about a week and R told her they were getting married so she had to move out.

She went to an institute center - saw a bulletin for places to rent..was directed to LDS housing.net..only 2 returned her call..talked to a Brenda but Brenda hadn't moved in yet..she was excited..days kept going on..no keys..another gal called her..was in the Univ 6 ward..not the ward T was in..she did not want to be in the same ward.

Color me confused..didn't TA have his own house??


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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:46 pm

samgoodwin wrote:My ears are bleeding. Can't she just ever answer yes or no? She just goes on and on and on.
and on........ pulling hair

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Post by samgoodwin on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:48 pm

Wrap, yes, Travis had his own house, but he didn't want her living there.
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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:52 pm

The new house where she moved..pregnant pause..says it was a lot closer to TA's..objection.

10 min or less to TA's.
She knew how far/close. GMAB!

Moved into the new place mid Aug 2007.

Was JA gf's w/TA at this time? NO,she says. Sexual relationship ongoing. NOT acting as a couple in public. Clandestine sexual relationship happening at his house. NOT ward. Still confused.

Typically, they would fight and make up, bla bla bla. Oral sex but not sure about anal sex timewise..eventually included vag/pen one time that month. She finally found a job end of Aug. Worked at PF Chang's.Other source of income: TRAVIS OFFERED HER TO CLEAN HIS HOUSE. Was going to pay her $200 a mo twice a week.

Exhibit 395..email he sent her re: joke about her uniform cleaning his house. He wanted her to wear a French maid outfit. This was in early Aug.
No objection to the photo but objection to the heresay.

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samgoodwin wrote:Wrap, yes, Travis had his own house, but he didn't want her living there.
So was his house considered a Ward?? confused

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:54 pm

Raine has entered the building!!!! :cheering: Will now cease my "play by play". chug

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Post by samgoodwin on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:55 pm

Poor Travis, every joke he ever sent her in email is being turned into something lurid. ::note to self:: delete all old emails. LOL
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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:57 pm

Amen, SAM!! Course we don't have such crapolla in our emails, do we?? flowerpower

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Wrapitup wrote:
samgoodwin wrote:Wrap, yes, Travis had his own house, but he didn't want her living there.
So was his house considered a Ward?? confused

I'm not sure, but I think the "ward" is like the "parish" and she didn't want to be going to his church - because she says she didn't want to run into him. I think the truth is he told her he didn't want her in his church.
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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:57 pm

agreed

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:58 pm

Let's see this alleged pic she is talking about. Now, prosecution objected..sidebar.

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Wrapitup wrote:Amen, SAM!! Course we don't have such crapolla in our emails, do we?? flowerpower

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:00 pm

ROFLMAO ROFLMAO ROFLMAO

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LOL, Ok, gotta run - back in about an hour to catch up on what I missed.
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As Arias describes her relationship with Alexander, she says she felt completely loved by him when having sex with him. Last week she said the sex made her feel like a prostitute and a used piece of toilet paper. She has not described what was different in the earlier sexual encounters in 2006 and their sex in 2007 while officially dating.

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When Flores interviewed Arias the day she was arrested, she told him Alexander "freaked out" when he learned she moved just miles from him a few weeks after they broke up. (See Flores's testimony on Jan. 14 at 5:50 pm ET.) Today, on the stand, Arias is giving the impression that Alexander was fine with her move to Mesa. Perhaps she has yet to explain...
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samgoodwin wrote:LOL, Ok, gotta run - back in about an hour to catch up on what I missed.
Will be here.

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:13 pm

Judge just sent the jury back to the jury room..big sidebar about the French Maid pic and the email. I think.

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:15 pm

Cannot believe Arias' parents would allow their young son in the courtroom to hear all these blatant, sexually graphic LIES!

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:19 pm

Jury back in. Exhibit is admitted.

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:30 pm

What is she saying?? They had sex on the porch, he ejaculated in her face and then did what???? confused

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:24 pm

I can't remember!! There has been so much stated. They went to Albuq to the Balloon Fiesta, she cried when she saw pics..he grabbed her wrist cause she was talking to some guy (Abe) that was telling her she deserved better, just more of the same.

I'll be posting the You Tube's after court convenes today. They have NOT brought in any emails or anything about him masturbating to boys pics.

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:24 pm

NOW, they are back to when they argued about her backpack and he told her "f**k you". HLN didn't bleep that out. LOL.

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