Swine Flu and H1N1 Vaccinations

TOTAL*(52) 17,855 cases 45 deaths - America/Puerto Rico

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/update.htm

increase of 4638 cases since last friday. Average out to 662 being infected every day of last week.

While stating the above and the numbers seem high I would also like to post the following:

36,000 -- On average, Americans of all ages who die of flu complications each year
200,000 -- On average, Americans hospitalized with flu complications each year (this would be average approx 547 infections a day)
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/sep/29/health/he-flubox29

H1N1 Flu (Swine Flu)
Site last updated Jun 12, 2009, 5:30 PM ET

A Pandemic Is Declared
On June 11, 2009, the World Health Organization (WHO) raised the worldwide pandemic alert level to Phase 6 in response to the ongoing global spread of the novel influenza A (H1N1) virus. A Phase 6 designation indicates that a global pandemic is underway.

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/update.htm

TOTAL*(52 states) 17,855 cases 45 deaths

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/19/health/19flu.html?ref=global-home

Swine
Flu Summer Camps

Wow I totally forgot about this thread. Juanita for your detailed reply.
I so hope you are right, and they have learned from 76 and from 1918, but there is only one way to find out and thats to wait and see.

I am still not convinced that this was not created. I understand that flu mutates and changes, if I remember correctly it actually changes every 8 hours, that the flu you have this morning is not the same flu you had when you go to bed, and I also understand that pigs are the best pot to mix diffrent virus, however just the way all this happened is questionable.

butterfly, it happened exactly the way you said you understood it to happen. just believe what you understand. humans just arent immune to pandemics and possible extinction. its scary, but not impossible. it doesnt have to take anything artificial to happen.

on a personal note,
hey off record here, Hehhehhehe,

butter, you and I think so much alike it is scary.

Juanita, I worry for myself that I envy your knowledge.

B

please dont envy me, i'm losing my job come november. lol

Juanita wrote:please dont envy me, i'm losing my job come november. lol

OH NO!! Juan I am so sorry. HUGS, to you!!!

but honey you are so smart you will have no problem getting another job, I am sure of it.

, that is sweet. i think jobs can be gotten, the question is, are they good enough or not.

J, I am so sorry to hear of this, but it was only your knowledge that I envied. :) You may find a job better than the one you have now.

actually im quite sure that i will because experience and maturity is something nobody can ever take away. also, im much less fearful than i used to be. there is nothing like living your life without fear.

as of today:

TOTAL*(53) 21,449 cases 87 deaths

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/update.htm

Last Friday, June 12, 2009 --- 17,855

Increase in past 7 days - 3594

ATLANTA – Health officials estimate that as many as 1 million Americans now have the new swine flu. Lyn Finelli, a flu surveillance official with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, voiced the estimate at a vaccine advisory meeting Thursday in Atlanta.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090625/ap_on_he_me/us_med_swine_flu

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/update.htm

TOTAL (53)*

27,717 cases

127 deaths

increase in past 7 days 5,938


My apologies that this looks odd. There is something strange w/ pasting and copy this morn.

Everyone be safe.

I read that this strain is not mutating. I have not heard of a flu virus not mutating I was under the impression flu mutates every 8 hours...

email this AM from the White House:

As the President's advisor on Homeland Security, I am passing along the following message from Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Health and Human Services, Janet Napolitano, Secretary of Homeland Security, and Arne Duncan, Secretary of Education, who are leading the efforts to prepare our Nation for the coming flu season.

Fellow Americans,

This spring we were confronted with an outbreak of a troubling flu virus called 2009-H1N1. As the fall flu season approaches, it is critical that we reinvigorate our preparedness efforts across the country in order to mitigate the effects of this virus on our communities.

Today, we are holding an H1N1 Influenza Preparedness Summit in conjunction with the White House to discuss our Nation's preparedness. We are working together to monitor the spread of 2009-H1N1 and to prepare to initiate a voluntary fall vaccination program against the 2009-H1N1 flu virus, assuming we have a safe vaccine and do not see changes in the virus that would render the vaccine ineffective.

But the most critical steps to mitigating the effects of 2009-H1N1 won't take place in Washington — they will take place in your homes, schools and community businesses.

Taking precautions for this fall's flu season is a responsibility we all share. Visit Flu.gov to make sure you are ready and learn how you can help promote public awareness.

We are making every effort to have a safe and effective vaccine available for distribution as soon as possible, but our current estimate is that it won't be ready before mid-October. This makes individual prevention even more critical. Wash your hands regularly. Take the necessary precautions to stay healthy and if you do get sick, stay home from work or school.

We are doing everything possible to prepare for the fall flu season and encourage all Americans to do the same — this is a shared responsibility and now is the time to prepare. Please visit Flu.gov to learn what steps you can take to prepare and do your part to mitigate the effects of H1N1.

Take Care,
Kathleen, Janet and Arne

so sorry, I have forgotten to post updates. (slacker)

TOTAL (53)*

33,902 cases

170 deaths

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/update.htm

CNN, is covering the swine flu.
They brought up something I had said earlier, I am hoping that Juanita can clear it up for me.
The flu mutates rapidly, just as it did in 1918, the H1N1 that we have now and this past spring, could very easily mutate and may not be what we see in the fall. It could come back furious and more deadly in the fall, a vaccine may be available by October. First question if the fall strand may not be the same strand as is now than what good would a vaccine due, and secondly is a vaccine available in October going to be safe, what do we know as far as testing this vaccine goes on humans? It usually takes years to come up with a vaccine october is only a few months, how can we know its safe?

butter,
I have many of your concerns...........

I found this on my local news..


the public health officer says, "It's going to be very interesting. We'll have to watch the southern hemisphere as they're in their flu season now."

Does anyone have any knowledge about this?

WHO: No licensed swine flu vaccine til end of year

By MARIA CHENG, AP Medical Writer Maria Cheng, Ap Medical Writer – Mon Jul 13, 12:13 pm ET

LONDON – A fully licensed swine flu vaccine might not be available until the end of the year, a top official at the World Health Organization said Monday, in a report that could affect many countries' vaccination plans.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090713/ap_on_he_me/eu_med_swine_flu_vaccine

DFS PFD wrote:Hello Everyone ---- from CSO

My son got the Swine Flu....it really was not to bad. Not a strong strand.
Of course, during such time I was not on CSO just taking care of my son...after a few days BOOM there was no CSO.

i think i remember when he came down with it, oh im so glad hes ok!! scary!

Hi Butterfly.
If this virus mutates it will become more virulent and diff. than what it is today. If they make a vaccine for the virus we know today, it would not be the same as if it does mutate, however, it would still share some of the same properties as the older version did. Therefore, it may not be 100% protective, but it would still help to protect.
The vaccines are either live or dead viruses, that the body reacts to by making antibodies to it. No vaccine is 100% safe, all have their risk of side effects. This one should not be any different than others. Hope this makes sense.

sorry i just saw butterfly's post. the vaccine has to be tested in animals first, preferably a mammal before it can be given or tested in humans. i agree, there isnt much time.

if the vaccine is made from dead virus, the risk is much much lower and so that is the first choice. a live virus vaccine will be made from an attenuated virus, which would be a modified virus that isnt as risky as the real thing.

we will never know how safe or effective it is in such a short time period.

http://www.naturalnews.com/026612_asthma_the_flu_flu_shots.html

(NaturalNews) At the 105th International Conference of the American Thoracic Society recently held in San Diego, researchers presented a study showing that the flu vaccine – widely touted as a "must have" for children with chronic illnesses – isn't effective in preventing influenza-related hospitalizations in children, especially ones with asthma.

ladyjustice37 wrote:http://www.naturalnews.com/026612_asthma_the_flu_flu_shots.html

(NaturalNews) At the 105th International Conference of the American Thoracic Society recently held in San Diego, researchers presented a study showing that the flu vaccine – widely touted as a "must have" for children with chronic illnesses – isn't effective in preventing influenza-related hospitalizations in children, especially ones with asthma.

I went to this meeting.

ah, it is so good to know we have someone w/ us. Thx

not sure how helpful i can be, but i try. my specialty is neither asthma nor virology, but molecular biology

J, does not matter - I am an accountant - do you really think I have any idea about molecular biology?

sometimes i have no clue about it either! :?:

lol dont worry though, im not in charge of big things lol

inside scoop:

i just found out that a paper has been submitted to the journal NATURE describing the characterization of this virus in lung. Not sure if it has been accepted or when it will come out in print, but stay tuned.

http://www.nature.com/

Baby Of Woman With Swine Flu Dies
Posted: 11:26 pm EDT July 18, 2009

WELLINGTON, Fla. -- Baby of woman with swine flu dies; mother critical Eds: APNewsNow. The baby of a Florida woman with swine flu has died after hospital officials say doctors tried to deliver her

http://www.wftv.com/news/20103759/detail.html

So SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(

Wrapitup wrote:Baby Of Woman With Swine Flu Dies
Posted: 11:26 pm EDT July 18, 2009

WELLINGTON, Fla. -- Baby of woman with swine flu dies; mother critical Eds: APNewsNow. The baby of a Florida woman with swine flu has died after hospital officials say doctors tried to deliver her

http://www.wftv.com/news/20103759/detail.html

So SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(

now thats terrible, i didnt think it could get any worse, and this is the worst :pale:

So sad. :(

as of July 17, 2009

TOTAL (55)*

40,617 cases

263 deaths

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/update.htm

TOTAL (55)*

43,771 cases

302 deaths

07.24.09


http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/update.htm

http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-SwineFlu/idUSTRE56N3PQ20090724

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - More than 300 people have died from the new pandemic swine flu virus, U.S. health officials said on Friday, but they said the virus was so widespread they were ceasing the official count.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said 43,771 cases of H1N1 influenza had been officially confirmed, with 302 deaths.

Swine flu could hit up to 40 percent in US

ATLANTA – In a disturbing new projection, health officials say up to 40 percent of Americans could get swine flu this year and next and several hundred thousand could die without a successful vaccine campaign and other measures.

The estimates by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are roughly twice the number of those who catch flu in a normal season and add greater weight to hurried efforts to get a new vaccine ready for the fall flu season.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090725/ap_on_he_me/us_med_swine_flu

I really am afraid that this fall it is really going to get out of hand. We have had some positive cases at some camps in NC this summer.

scary

well....

what can i say..

live your life to the fullest as always and have no regrets.

hang on tight! but wash your hands after!

CritterFan1 wrote:I really am afraid that this fall it is really going to get out of hand. We have had some positive cases at some camps in NC this summer.

I have an auto-immune disorder so I have to be really careful. I try to eat right and stay un-stressed (usually) - I get a flu shot every year and have special labs drawn every four months. I take boat loads of vitamins and try to get enough rest, as I fatigue easily. That is about all we can do; take care of ourselves and wash our hands a lot.

My neighbor told me that she bought one of those machines that can receive emails or faxes (not sure ) because she couldn't go to the library anymore to check her email account. I asked her why and she said, "because of the Swine Flu'. That seems like overkill to me, at this point.

MAJOR OVERKILL, BJ!!!!!!!!!! I would rather do this while I can: :12:

overkill. she cant shutter herself in her home, she has to learn to keep good sanitary practices and still live her life. it doesnt matter where you are, if one person has recently sneezed or touched something and it makes it to your mucus membranes, you can get infected. crowded places and not washing your hands just boosts your chances.

Wrapitup wrote:MAJOR OVERKILL, BJ!!!!!!!!!! I would rather do this while I can: :12:

so you were spying in my hotel room last night and got a video of me exercising on my pole???? You ARE good!!!!

CritterFan1 wrote:

Wrapitup wrote:MAJOR OVERKILL, BJ!!!!!!!!!! I would rather do this while I can: :12:

so you were spying in my hotel room last night and got a video of me exercising on my pole???? You ARE good!!!!

I may be a lot of things, but I am not a spy. :nothingtoadd:

im a spy! but dont flatter yourself, im not spying on you!!

Save Swine Flu Drugs for Younger Patients, Study Urges

58 mins ago
TUESDAY, July 28 (HealthDay News) -- Antiviral drug treatment of swine flu may be wasted on the elderly and should be reserved for young people, suggest researchers who created a model of the effect of antiviral treatment on the spread of the H1N1 virus.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20090728/hl_hsn/saveswinefludrugsforyoungerpatientsstudyurges

What do you bet most Dr's will still make the elderly get the vaccine.??