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Post by Wrapitup on Sat May 01, 2010 6:08 pm

The Fact And Fiction Of The Haleigh Cummings Case?
Posted on May 1st, 2010
by Simon Barrett

Earlier this week I floated a document around to some people I know, some for a variety of professional reasons would prefer that I not use their names. I will honor those requests. We held a conference call and this was the the end result. This likely is very, very close to what happened. If nothing else it is a thought provoking look at the case – simon.

The Bus Stop – There are two conflicting versions. While the question of who picked up Haleigh from the School bus is a very minor point, and likely has no bearing on what happened later that day, it is interesting to explore as it reveals a great deal about the nature of the people involved. Version one says that it was Misty driving a van that picked Haleigh up. The school bus driver and another parent have both said this. Version two says that Ronald picked her up. His story has her sitting on his lap and operating the turn signals on the drive home.

It was pointed out that the Ron version contains too much information. I have a theory about lies, they have to be detailed oriented and often elaborate in nature. Rons story fits that requirement. The interesting point though is that the PCSO seem to have bought into the Ron story.

“Ron could be fabricating this in order to persuade OR Ron could be giving extra details because he ALREADY thinks he is not being believed.”

The question in my mind is why on something as innocuous as who picked up Haleigh is there this discrepancy? No one has anything to gain from being anything but truthful about this meaningless aspect. I start to think, lie about small stuff, they are going to lie about bigger things.

Ronald and Misty are not seeing eye to eye. At first I assumed that the argument was over her three day sex and drugs binge. However it now seems that route is incorrect. Several people that have spoken to Ronald have said that he appeared to show no emotion whatsoever about the subject. This is a strange behaviour. This part of Florida is apparently quite racially divided. I find it odd that Ronald would have no problems with Misty having sex with White Boy Greg.

Back to the argument. Misty is claiming that she does not want to look after Haleigh and Jr. that evening because she has a babysitting job lined up. But did she? A far more plausible explanation is that she wanted to attend the ‘party’ that we have all heard so much about.

“I struggle with Misty having a babysitting job lined up. It doesn’t fit her lazy lifestyle. It is far easier to get quick money for drugs by a sex act than babysitting for hours. Narcotic impact is 3-4 hours and a new dosage is needed….cranky, irritable…not a babysitting situation. Did Ron really beg and even offer money to Teresa to babysit only to be refused?”

Tempers are still frayed when Ron leaves for work. Misty feed the kids, and is likely high on something. It is a cold evening, yet when Annette Sykes drops by the two children are eating their meal outside. Why?

“Why was Annette Sykes doing the laundry for the kids?? We know that she told us that the clothing was dirty….”

Rons job is in a remote part of the plant and as a crane operator really has no one looking over his shoulder. He is still concerned about the situation at the trailer and makes several calls (12 or more) to keep an eye on Misty’s whereabouts.

Misty does not like being on this short leash and turns off her phone.

It is the kids bed time and Misty gets Jr. settled for the night. He puts up no resistance and is asleep in no time flat.

Haleigh is a different case. Although Misty has only been playing the role of mom for a few months the little girl has attached herself to her. Haleigh has three days of ‘news’ and has no intentions of going to sleep. Misty decides that a chemical babysitter is needed and gives Haleigh something. It could have been an oxy, or something else. Everyone seems to be in broad agreement that this was not the first time that she had used this method of sleep induction.

I am going to go off on a tangent here. None of this is public record, and likely will never be made public. However one credible source is claiming to have knowledge of some documents from Child Protective Services (DCF) that reveal a rather ugly situation. The kids have been drug tested in the past. Also Ron was admonished for some kind of physical abuse of them.

“Ron did reveal on TV that he could spank her on the bottom “just like DCF said”. This means he likely signed a Safety Plan agreeing NOT to hit in the face, arms, etc, under the threat of having them removed from him.

I feel for the caseworkers. They had two parents and neither was clean and sober, and a kid would likely SCREAMED for dad. She was attached, but it was a nervous and unhealthy attachement. “

There also appears to be a sexual angle, though not sex abuse in the normal sense. Rather, Haleigh was often in the same room as Ron and Misty while they were having sex. Apparently Haleigh exhibited some strange behavior at school, likely emulating what she had seen at home that got school officials very concerned. None of this can be confirmed, and to go forward with it would be journalistic suicide. But it does provide yet more background on the type of people involved.

Around 9pm - 10pm (timeline is sketchy) Misty starts to come down from her high and decided to get some sleep.

Ron meanwhile is beyond the state of being furious, he wants to know what is going on! He calls Tommy Croslin and tells him to go over to the trailer and find out what the story is. Tommy gets there and sees that the lights are off, he bangs on the door.

In my mind this is where the big lies start. Before we get into them though, lets do a little analysis without any data. Early on in the investigation PCSO told us that they had pulled phone records and cell tower pings for Misty and Ron on that night. I would also assume that the pulled the records for out going landline calls from PDL. So they must have known about the phone call. Yet, it was only months later that Tommy came up with story. What story did he tell them originally?

One ‘reporter’ is claiming the Tommy’s story is false, he created it merely to buy his freedom from a gun related charge. This makes little sense, as the same reporter is also claiming that it was Tommy that gave PCSO the lead as to where the body was dumped! I think I will stick to my original version of where the tip came from, and it was not Tommy.

Back to the plot. Tommy knocks on the door, wakes Misty up. Misty is not pleased to see him. Tommy tells her that Ron is pissed to the max. Misty says, we are all sleeping, if you don’t believe me take a look for yourself.

Tommy inadvertently wakes Jr. possibly Jr. heard the know on the door and was just drifting back to sleep, and that is where the ‘man in black’ reference comes from. A couple of sources are refuting the ‘man in black’, and claiming ‘woman in black’. There is a scenario for that, but I’ll play that later.

Tommy checks Haleigh, and the proverbial shit hits the fan’, she is dead.


Once again we need to analyze data we do not have. Did they call Ron? If Misty called him using her phone there would be a record of that call, it would also damage her alibi of being asleep. The PCSO are not dumb, they would have been onto that from the get go. So, most probably (if it happened) the call originated from Tommy.

Did Tommy tell him Haleigh was dead? Or was Tommy telling him everything was OK, or some other story?

I know that a couple of you really fancy Nay Nay Prevat as having some form of involvement. And there are good reasons. The car, the keys, and the blue antifreeze. While Nay Nay might not have been best friends with Misty, they had just shared a three day binge. Did Misty (using Tommy’s phone) call her? Was it Nay Nay that helped dispose of the body?

I for one think that Nay Nay likely knows more than she is saying
, but I am not sure I buy into her as an accessory after the fact. The car, the keys, and the antifreeze are interesting and thought provoking, however that scenario would play out only if Tommy and Misty hid the body and it was moved at a later date.

There was no blood to find, and I doubt that a body that has been dead for an hour would leave any evidence that forensics could find.

In my mind the more likely scenario is that Tommy and Misty wrap Haleigh in a blanket, use the yellow rope and a couple of cinder block anchors. Tommy does the disposal using the van.

Ron’s shift ends. His actions are not rational if he is or is not involved. Either way, they not one iota of sense. He drives to a convenience store and purchases one beer, some cigarettes, and some nuts. If he was not involved, he would still be steaming at Misty for turning her phone off. He would have driven straight home to find out what was going on.

If he knew what was going on, he would have done the same thing! They needed a plan.

There is a third choice, maybe he stopped for a reason, there were security cameras, was he building an alibi.

I try and put myself in his shoes, if I had knowledge that my daughter was dead, and we were going to have to call 911 to report her missing, it is going to be a very long night. I think I’d be tempted to buy more than one beer! LOL

A question that I have never heard an answer to, but I am not sure I have ever asked it. What was Ron’s normal day? People tend to fall into daily patterns. I smoke, and most days I take a walk to my local gas station to buy cigarettes, if I turn up at 11am Chris the owner says hi Simon. If I arrive at 8am I get ‘wow you are early’, and at 2pm, I get ‘you are late’.

I have a pattern, did Ron? Was the stop at the gas station routine? Did he stop regularly to pick up a beer and smokes? Anyway its just some food for thought.

Ron gets home, and the action starts!

A 911 call is made. The call does not seem to stand up to scrutiny. It can be argued that these people are irrational at best, but, I see several issues. The biggest of which is who placed the call. Why did Misty call? Ronald has just got home and discovered that his daughter is missing, why does he get Misty to make the call? Ronald has been living on his cell phone all evening, yet is heard on the call to say ‘where is my god damn phone’.

Much has been said about this call. I tried a completely unscientific test on my wife Jan. It was a blind taste test! She knew nothing about what I was up to. I gave her the scenario of, you wake up at 3am, you need to use the bathroom, you notice that the back door is wide open, and your young child is missing. What would you do? Her response was to call 911. What would you say to them I asked. “I need help now, Joey is missing”.

What we get instead is Misty explaining that she was asleep, the door was open, and finally the fact that a little girl is missing.

I have to make some assumptions, but they are reasonable ones. Ronald was present during the entire 911 call. If he arrived home in the middle of it why was he not screaming blue murder? He is remarkably controlled. Sure he makes the remark about ‘killing whoever did this’ and blusters a bit, but it all seems a little contrived. Why does he grumble “I have better people to talk to, where is my cell phone”? Considering the fact that he had used it many times that night. It would seem reasonable to assume that he knew exactly where it was.

If Misty was awake and cognizant of the fact that Haleigh was missing why didn’t she call 911? Why wait for Ronald to get home? If she was sleeping when Ronald got home why didn’t Ronald call 911? If by some amazing coincidence Ronald gets home at the same time that Misty wakes up why is the 911 call so controlled? I don’t hear anyone shouting to try and find her. “Haleigh, are you out there”.

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Post by Nama on Sat May 01, 2010 7:22 pm

Good luck sorting it all out to anyone who tries.
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Post by Guest on Sun May 02, 2010 8:00 am

I think I have it pretty well figured out. If HaLeigh overdosed the drugs had to be given to her. I will never believe she took it on her own. I will also never believe Ron was involved in HaLeigh death or disposal of her body. I believe the drug bust happened with Ron's help. For a person who has been arrested for drugs as much as Ron he sure has a buddy system going on with LE. We will see what kind of sentence Ron gets from all these drug charges. That alone will tell me I am correct.
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Post by cherylz on Sun May 02, 2010 8:09 am

I agree about Ron, Lindamarie. There has been a persistent rumor of him having been a drug informant in the past, etc...
Re: above article I do not find it odd that Ron called home numerous times that night, to Misty...they had a fight. She screened her calls. Then after working the graveyard shift, stopping to get cigs and snacks, seems believable. Then as he enters his home and is greeted w/ the news his daughter is missing...totally believable to me that he would yell to Misty "call 911" as he frantically runs around the house. Misty prob. didn't call b4 b/c she knew what really happened. And Ron, not being able to find his cell...yep in the panic and frenzy of the moment...totally believable too, to me. The key is with the 3 cousins, I think.
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Post by Guest on Sun May 02, 2010 1:53 pm

Hello everyone. This is the first time I have joined in on a discussion here at Victim's Heartland. I have been following this case since day one. I am curious as to how many people think that Hayleigh died from taking some of those pills. That has always rang true to me. I can't really see Misty harming her, but I can see her passed passed out cold from partying and therefore allowing Hayleigh to get into the pills. It just makes sense. All the rest of the theories I have heard on Nancy G or I have read just seem kind of far fetched. Well, maybe the pedophile cuz did take her and kill her, that is not far fetched. I don't believe a single word that comes out of Misty's mouth though. She is almost as big of a liar as Casey Anthony it seems. (Nobody is as big of a liar as Casey so that's why I said almost). I think Grandma Hollars is doing all this talking to get attention, too. That family is the most uneducated bunch of trash I have ever seen in my life. Ugh. Anyway, thanks for allowing me to join with you here. Have a great week!
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Post by Wrapitup on Sun May 02, 2010 3:52 pm

Blog talk radio is on discussing this case as I type:

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Post by Wrapitup on Sun May 02, 2010 5:13 pm

lindamarie wrote:I think I have it pretty well figured out. If HaLeigh overdosed the drugs had to be given to her. I will never believe she took it on her own. I will also never believe Ron was involved in HaLeigh death or disposal of her body. I believe the drug bust happened with Ron's help. For a person who has been arrested for drugs as much as Ron he sure has a buddy system going on with LE. We will see what kind of sentence Ron gets from all these drug charges. That alone will tell me I am correct.
Are you serious??? I in no way agree with you on this. No way Ron helped w/the drug bust. WOW!! I LOVE it that we have completely different opinions on this. ❤

You all know that I think Ron is involved. I have thought that from day one. If I am wrong, I will email his mother (yes, I have her email addy) and apologize.

LM, I have to say...that is a very good strategy if you are correct!! thinking

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Post by Wrapitup on Sun May 02, 2010 5:14 pm

Cherylz, you said:
The key is with the 3 cousins, I think.
Do you mean Misty, Tommy and Joe??

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Post by Wrapitup on Sun May 02, 2010 5:20 pm

welcome2 NapaValGirl!!!!!

Great question that you asked. I DO think that both Ron and Misty were giving her a small amount of pills (maybe a bit of xanax as Ron has an RX for it) to put her to sleep. Just as I think Casey was giving Caylee chloroform for the same reason prior to her overdosing on it. crying

I most definitely agree with you about the family..actually on both sides!!

I am happy you are here to share your opinions!!!

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Post by cherylz on Sun May 02, 2010 6:27 pm

Yes, I think Misty, Tommy and Joe were all involved in some way, with the actual death and cover-up. I think they hold the key to solving this case.
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Post by Guest on Sun May 02, 2010 7:21 pm

Yeah I know it is had to believe that Ron helped set up the drug bust. We shall see what kind of times he gets compared to the others.
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Post by charminglane on Sun May 02, 2010 8:25 pm

Actually, LM, I agree with you. Somehow or other, Ron helped set that bust up. It might be the link LE needs to get the bigger players in the drug trade there. Could be the way Ron gets a get out of jail free card. Or his daughter back.

I can't help but think, when the screws are tight, why wouldn't the Croslin's just make up more whoppers and say ANYTHING at all to get LE off their cases regarding HaLeigh?

How do we know that the Sheffield family didn't finger Ron and the bunch for drugs as a way to get HaLeigh and Jr.?

My head spins with all the theories. No one is wrong or right in their theories because so far, we have not seen one iota of proof.
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Post by Wrapitup on Sun May 02, 2010 9:50 pm

I most definitely do NOT think the Sheffield's have done anything wrong.

This is what I love..agreeing to disagree. And yes, it will be most interesting to see what Ron ends up getting.

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Post by laga on Sun May 02, 2010 10:19 pm

lindamarie wrote:I think I have it pretty well figured out. If HaLeigh overdosed the drugs had to be given to her. I will never believe she took it on her own. I will also never believe Ron was involved in HaLeigh death or disposal of her body. I believe the drug bust happened with Ron's help. For a person who has been arrested for drugs as much as Ron he sure has a buddy system going on with LE. We will see what kind of sentence Ron gets from all these drug charges. That alone will tell me I am correct.

I agree completely! Ron's non-involvement is the only thing in this case I am sure of though. What happen to Haleigh?????Nothing there makes sense to me...so..IDK.
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Post by Wrapitup on Sun May 02, 2010 10:42 pm

Laga, so you agree that Ron was part of the drug bust, IOW..he helped set it up w/the cops????? WOW!!!! :jaw dropping:

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Post by Guest on Mon May 03, 2010 5:33 am

Ron's free pass at the local jail always made me wonder. Maybe it was because his Mom worked for the sheriff. Maybe it was because he was ratting out other people to get out of jail. I heard a rumor, it is only a rumor that Ron is working on a plea deal for the drug charges. We shall see.
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Post by charminglane on Mon May 03, 2010 8:50 am

This is what I love..agreeing to disagree.

Wrap, this is why I love this site. I can say what I think and not be pounded into the ground for it. I am treated with respect for my thoughts. NOT true anywhere else.

That, to me is priceless.
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Post by Wrapitup on Mon May 03, 2010 10:51 pm

I heard a rumor, it is only a rumor that Ron is working on a plea deal for the drug charges.
Rumor Shumer. Do tell!!!

Yep Charm, I got so tired of the bickering at another site and swore when I started VH we would all the the adults we are and be respectful even if we disagree. So far, I think it's worked out real well and our members are the bomb!!! :groupwave: :groupwave: :groupwave: Group Hug :cheers:

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Post by Nama on Sun May 09, 2010 2:00 am

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?? Ronald Cummings to Be Arrested ??

I am as sick of "Bombshell Tonite!" language as anyone. Although this word is used nightly, I think one is actually going to fall, and I think it is going to fall soon and weigh in with a prediction:

Will this be the bombshell that explodes before the drug trafficking sentencing of Misty Croslin, Ronald Cummings, and Tommy Croslin?

I think so. We can thank prosecutors and a judge who put Hope Sykes behind bars for 15 years for bringing this to a conclusion.

Let's take another look at Ronald Cummings; beginning with what we do know, based upon Statement Analysis, or by profiling, and/or by news reports that have not been disproved, and in some cases, have gone unchallenged. We seek to put some pieces of a puzzle together.

The pieces of the puzzle are beginning to come together. The sentencing of Hope Sykes is the key.

1. Ronald Cummings is a druggie. We have the video evidence which showed what we have all known since the beginning when Geraldo was unable to interview the zombies in Satsuma due to drug addiction. No surprise here. What does surprise me, however, is the willingness of those, including Nancy Grace, to ignore the 'not difficult to do' profiling of an addict.

When I saw Ronald Cummings appear in court, I almost did not recognize him. His weight gain was stunning. Weight gain on jail food? Tommy, on video, said that his own weight gain in jail was due to being off drugs.

If Ronald was using narcotics (opiates) we know that long term usage creates tolerance; where the body needs more to have the same analgesic impact. Higher dosage means reduced testosterone (lower sex drive, weight gain). Lower testosterone leads to weight gain, especially for a man in his stomach. With lower testosterone, Ronald did not gain weight until jail time. The opiate abuse was so acute that he wasn't eating.

Have you ever had an opiate? Likely when you went to the dentist. When you took it, it wiped you out, and you were high, dizzy, and sleepy. About the last thing you would feel (if you did not use long term) was energy.

Not so for the addict.

With long term opiate abuse, the body relies so heavily upon the opiate that without it, there is no energy. When someone who has used as much as Ronald Cummings has takes his opiates, he has energy. He feels good. In 4-6 hours, the effects quickly dissipate, and withdrawal begins. This is a very dangerous time for children of addicts. While high, the heroin mommy is cooking, cleaning, and affectionate. When she comes down, the monster of irritability begins to show. She sneezes, is sleepy, achy, and the cravings begin.

Ronald gained weigh on jail food because his drug habit was long term and acute.

Teresa Nieves said that he only sold "to get close to Misty to find out what happened to Haleigh". This is the lie, not of a mother in denial, but of an addict.

Teresa is also an addict who did not raise Ronald due to her addiction. She was cleaned up for the Nancy Grace show, but she is an addict and I believe she knows more about the killing of her grandchild than she has let on. More about this later. Ronald is an acute addict; long term, and it appears that he got the job he did in order to satisfy DCF to keep his two children. When DCF investigated (repeatedly) they sought a family member to take the children and could not find anyone who could pass a drug test, for had they, they would have placed the children with them. They could not. Ron did the bare minimum to get them off his back.

Ever hear of a celebration test?

It's when the parent knows a drug test is coming, cleans up (buprenorphine) for a few days, and then flushes for days on end. When the test is passed, they go out and celebrate.

The morning after the passed test is always a great time to re-test.

2. Ronald is a violent man.

"How you let my daughter, get stole, bitch?" is the language of domestic violence. Haleigh's biological mother was terrified of him, as, it appears, was Tommy (a beheaded rat would scare anyone), Ron's other ex, and likely Teresa, his mother. Ronald has rage built up inside of him for the many years of abuse and neglect he suffered before being removed from his mother. We have a violent, drugged embittered man on our hands.

3. With drug sales comes bad people. The moment someone takes a prescription and sells a single pill, they have put their children in jeopardy. Addicts want more. Addicts don't ask for receipts. Addicts want more. Addicts may want a refund. Now, the children are at risk for the violent drug users who come in and out of the home to buy pills. I'm willing to bet that Teresa has sold her share, as has Hank Sr. Grammie Hollars (she appeared under the influence on the Nancy Grace show, even as the "experts" were praising her "courage. Ronald needed guns, why?

4. Nay Nay, close to the family, described Ronald as backhanding, and beating the shit out of junior. Nay Nay may have zero credibility but I've met many fathers who beat their kids and Ronald walks, talks, acts, and smirks like them all. Crystal reported it as well. DCF was involved for a reason and had to draw up a contract which Ronald agreed to "only" hit on the behind. There is a reason why DCF needed him to put this in writing: so that it could be showed to a judge on the next DCF investigation where they attempt to save the children from this monster. Too late.

5. 911 Call.

We have already seen that the 911 call is deceptive. (see previous analysis)

Why would Misty need to be deceptive to report a missing child? This is obvious: because Misty is involved. No question.

But why did Misty wait until Ron got home to make that call?

If you read the transcripts, it appears that Ronald coached her with her story.

Even though Ronald knew Misty was drugging for days and couldn't watch the kids adequately, (he tried to get Teresa to watch them but she refused....Misty said she even offered money to Teresa but she wouldn't watch them even though she knew the impact of drugs...want to interpret those tears on the Nancy Grace show with Teresa in her makeover?) they had a fight at 8:30PM and Ronald called her more than 20 times, and said he sent Tommy over to check on them, Ronald STILL had the wherewithal to stop off at the local Stop and Rob to pick up some beer and peanuts. Now that's a caring father!

Then we have the cinder blocks.

Have you ever carried a sleeping 5 year old? How about a very tiny sleeping 5 year old? You don't need to use a heavy cinder block to open the door.

Misty mentioned the cinder block in her account (see analysis) because that is exactly what she was picturing in her mind as she spoke:

Haleigh's long curly hair as she is tied to a cinder block and carried out the door, to be thrown into the river.

Ronald knew all along. I think Ronald Cummings put the cinder block in the door to stage a kidnapping? (a "stole")

You don't think so?

1. He coached her on the 911 call. She needed coaching, why?? Look at Misty being interviewed elsewhere, as she looks to Ronald as to what to answer. Look at the analysis again: WHY is a question such as "how tall is she?" sensitive? Why would Misty need to stall to answer, cover the phone up, and then NOT answer the question directly? Review the Statement Analysis of the entire call. We have already established that the call is bogus by its order:

I just woke up
The door was open
and oh, by the way, "our" daughter is gone. Did she say "our" because she was coached? Or, is it the language of step parenting? Misty had only known Haleigh a few months up until then.

2 So, his daughter "gets stole" and he tells the 911 operator that he is going to kill whoever did this. He is one angry dad. Police tell him early on that Misty is involved. As soon as a State or Fed analyst gets on board, everyone, including Ronald and Misty, are told the 911 call is a ruse.

Ronald takes this information and what does he do?

He marries Misty.

Tim Miller allows a zealous worker to get close to Misty, in order to get info.

What does Ronald do?

He tells Misty.

After the marriage shock that showed his true colors dies down, talking heads begin to say, "well, this won't help Ronald as the crime took place BEFORE they married, so marital privilege does not apply."

Uh oh.

So, Ronald divorces her. You know, the same Misty he said he would put a shotgun to the back of her head and blow her teeth out? Even his ability to think of that shows what he is capable of doing.

Whenever Ronald is interviewed about his "missing" daughter, what is the first, or one of the first things he says?

"I was at work."

"I just got home"

Over and over, he lays out the emphasis.

What does this tell us?

He was at home.

This offering of information, when not prompted, is critical. By Ronald offering that he was not at home, he is telling us that he was at home during a critical part of this homicide.

Misty, Tommy, and Ronald have all lied. (so has Teresa Nieves).

Ronald was a violent and neglectful father, entrusting the kids to a teenage druggie. He could have cared less. He was the same parent that his mother was to him. The circle continues.

Poor Haleigh.

I think she ingested oxy and this whole scenario was concocted by Ronald and Misty and they made Tommy get involved with disposing the body because he was implicated in something; perhaps he was molesting Haleigh; perhaps Misty traded Haleigh for drugs or money;

but they had something serious enough on Tommy to keep him silent, and when Ronald thought he was cracking, he sent over the beheaded rat as a warning.

Ronald is a scary, violent person, and Tommy knows it well.

But now Hope has gotten a HUGE sentence. Tommy doesn't want to go that long and Ronald is behind bars and can't scare Tommy.

Tommy flunked the poly and his lawyer get law enforcement involved.

Whatever they had on Tommy, was powerful enough to get him to help Misty unload the body, which is why Ronald kept calling her in a panic.

Whether Misty gave Haliegh a broken off piece of pill, or she found it, the dirt was so bad that they could not point the finger at each other (Ronald and Misty) without nailing the other; so they worked together. They have something bad enough on Tommy to nail him.

With another scenario where Ron wasn't directly involved, but then became part of the coverup: What would be so terrible that Misty has over Ronald, to get him to help her make the 911 call and the cover up?

I don't know, but we do have a hint.

Was Ronald molesting his daughter?

Who knows how screwed up his brain is on drugs?
Ronald has a very high likelihood of being molested as a child; due to the drug world he grew up in and was eventually taken from his mother's custody but NOT the family.

Ronald, on national TV, said he is attracted to young girls. This is an embarrassing and humiliating thing for him to say. Since druggies are liars AND since human nature naturally minimizes is there something about Ronald sexually that is disturbing?

We have the reference by Misty to laundry and washing; verbal indications of sexual abuse in the home.

We know that even non drug users minimize their own behavior. It is like the woman who slaps her child in the face at Walmart. WHAT DO YOU THINK she does to the child at home, when no one is looking??

If Ronald was willing to admit, in general terms, his attraction to young girls, this would indicate that he may prefer them even younger than he said. This would indicate a stunted emotional growth in him, often found in abusers.

True pedophilia is an attraction to prepubescents. I do not know if this is Ronald. I am seeking to know, if he wasn't involved in her death, what Misty may have over him that caused him to be part of the coverup. Although I am not saying Ronald is a pedophile, I am saying, in certainty, that sexual abuse of Haleigh Cummings needs to be explored and this begins with the adults who had the closest contact with her.

Ronald, Misty, and Tommy, however, are all united in their desire to blame one person (who Ronald has, apparently, allowed to live, inspite of his threats):

Joe Overstreet may be a creepy thing with a history, but he didn't do it.

I think that BEFORE Ronald, Misty and Tommy are sentenced for the drug trafficking,

WE WILL HAVE AN ARREST.

I think Misty will be arrested, to no one's surprise, but to many, the surprise arrest will be Ronald.

I think Tommy cuts a deal to implicate them and gets a reduced sentence.

I think we will see this "bombshell" on the news:

Ronald Cummings and Misty Croslin to be arrested for the homicide of Haleigh Cummings.

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/05/ronald-cummings-involvement.html

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Post by Wrapitup on Sun May 09, 2010 1:06 pm

When I saw Ronald Cummings appear in court, I almost did not recognize him. His weight gain was stunning. Weight gain on jail food? Tommy, on video, said that his own weight gain in jail was due to being off drugs.
I don't deny this but most people in jail gain weight due to all the carbs.
Teresa Nieves said that he only sold "to get close to Misty to find out what happened to Haleigh". This is the lie, not of a mother in denial, but of an addict.

Teresa is also an addict who did not raise Ronald due to her addiction. She was cleaned up for the Nancy Grace show, but she is an addict and I believe she knows more about the killing of her grandchild than she has let on.
Although I wouldn't doubt it, there has never been any proof that Teresa NEVES is or was a drug addict. This guy needs to learn how to spell, especially if he is going to accuse Mother Teresa of using drugs.
I'm willing to bet that Teresa has sold her share, as has Hank Sr. Grammie Hollars (she appeared under the influence on the Nancy Grace show, even as the "experts" were praising her "courage. Ronald needed guns, why?
Where is this guy coming from? I do NOT think that "Grammie Hollars" appeared under the influence of anything. He is "willing to bet" that TN has sold her share of drugs? Hello? This woman works for the Alachua PD as a 911 operator. She would have had a huge background done on her. And, random drug tests. While it is not impossible that she at one time sold drugs, this has never been proven and to my knowledge..never been voiced before.

Most of what seamusoriley says has some credence to it. But, I think his accusations of Teresa Neves are over the top. (and trust me when I tell you I think she also knows more and enables her son)

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Post by jeanne1807 on Sun May 09, 2010 5:44 pm

I think Ron knows more about Haleighs disappearance. I saw the real rats Ron and Theresa were when Geraldo interviewed them. For some reason of all the interviews I have watched that one shows me their true colors.

I find it really strange that after trying to call Misty over 100 times on his cell phone from work that Ron would take the time to go to the store and buy one beer, one peanuts. I would think he would have gone smoking down the road to that trailer.

Ron set those guys up for that drug arrest.

If you watch him he has that little boy charm he has used on momma Theresa. The cat swallowed the mouse, shit eating grin. It has always worked on his enabler why wouldn't it work on the public.

Because we aren't momma. We can see right through him.

He is guilty of something. I am just not sure what yet.
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