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Post by truthbtold Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:01 pm

charminglane wrote:No, TBT. He should be at BD's watching the brand new big screen.

charming, that would be funny if it wasn't entirely possible!!

I seriously wonder if the timing of today's statements was opening the door for Shawn to attend this conference. They could have just been done today to explain why Billie and Clint are attending (abduction, Shawn not the abductor...). But, things are so bizarre in this case, I half expect Shawn to attend in attempt to get people looking away from him; time to roll out his PR campaign...

P.s. Anxiously awaiting the answer about search fund contributions to parents - very good question. I think we're on the same page...


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Post by charminglane Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:04 pm

Milk? Moo.

I could see SA going, only because it would be a free trip. That is why BD is going, imo.
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Post by bringthemhome Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:05 pm

artgal16 wrote:I didnt know that Mark had anything bad to say about Tim Miller. When it comes to these organizations that all have the same purpose in mind, its best not to criticize the good works of others even if sometimes
they make a mistake. I know Tim probably went too far in the Cummings case in that one instance, but their emotions sometimes take over and they go over the line. I believe Tim regretted that and Mark should leave it alone.

Oh yeah, IIRC he said Tim should be in jail and it went downhill from there...I do agree about no pizzing contest between groups but sadly even that isn't sacred 🇳🇴

CM~I think that definitely could be a reason, not for certain but it is possible. What chapped my backside was when Billie poor mouthed about setting a jar out (are you kidding me Billie?????) or helping them, but she hasn't worked in almost two months so has no money, HELLO.....did you forget about your big screen tv on lay away......sorry, she makes me want to hurl and slap something. Instead I go outside and throw plates in frustration .....don't laugh anyone it honestly works flower3
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Post by charminglane Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:05 pm

Although, it could be some scheme to get SA and BD apart for a couple of days.
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Post by truthbtold Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:16 pm

bringthemhome said:

Oh yeah, IIRC he said Tim should be in jail and it went downhill from there...I do agree about no pizzing contest between groups but sadly even that isn't sacred 🇳🇴

CM~I think that definitely could be a reason, not for certain but it is possible. What chapped my backside was when Billie poor mouthed about setting a jar out (are you kidding me Billie?????) or helping them, but she hasn't worked in almost two months so has no money, HELLO.....did you forget about your big screen tv on lay away......sorry, she makes me want to hurl and slap something. Instead I go outside and throw plates in frustration .....don't laugh anyone it honestly works flower3

She is infuriating, I agree bth~ I know you said not to laugh, but I can't help it. Just thinking you must have gone through a table set for 12 by now, I would have... ☀
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Post by bringthemhome Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:23 pm

truthbtold wrote:bringthemhome said:

Oh yeah, IIRC he said Tim should be in jail and it went downhill from there...I do agree about no pizzing contest between groups but sadly even that isn't sacred 🇳🇴

CM~I think that definitely could be a reason, not for certain but it is possible. What chapped my backside was when Billie poor mouthed about setting a jar out (are you kidding me Billie?????) or helping them, but she hasn't worked in almost two months so has no money, HELLO.....did you forget about your big screen tv on lay away......sorry, she makes me want to hurl and slap something. Instead I go outside and throw plates in frustration .....don't laugh anyone it honestly works flower3

She is infuriating, I agree bth~ I know you said not to laugh, but I can't help it. Just thinking you must have gone through a table set for 12 by now, I would have... ☀

Not 12, but 3 place settings, I learned going thru my divorce that I had to have an outlet for my frustration and anger, the therapist suggested it so I buy them at yard sales and I can not even begin to tell you how cathartic it is, especially when there are still pieces left on the ground big enough to toss again {ps=yard sale fiesta ware can b picked up and tossed over and over since it breaks in half} LOL......course I am in desperate need of another yard sale ASAP frying pan
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Post by NosyNeighbor Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:25 pm

truthbtold wrote:
charminglane wrote:No, TBT. He should be at BD's watching the brand new big screen.

charming, that would be funny if it wasn't entirely possible!!

I seriously wonder if the timing of today's statements were opening the door for Shawn to attend this conference. They could have just been done today to explain why Billie and Clint are attending (abduction, Shawn not the abductor...). But, things are so bizarre in this case, I half expect Shawn to attend in attempt to get people looking away from him; time to roll out his PR campaign...

P.s. Anxiously awaiting the answer about search fund contributions to parents - very good question. I think we're on the same page...

You better believe I most definitely think that Miss Billie has her mind set on Shawn going to Dallas.. In the article from today she put their three names together and says..Shawn..Clint..and me all miss Hailey and want her home..He's going to Dallas.. and I guaran damn tee you Miss Billie is tickled to death seeing this as a mini vacation for them to get away and stay in a hotel like the the Loews with a suite and a jacuzzi..romanticizing the masked lover boy-toy! Barf

**Added: I wonder if he has any of his masks that they love so much or were they all seized by LE..I'm sure Billie can find her a damn internet somewhere with a printer and print off their fav slasher bedtime stories..masks..romantics..jacuzzi..slasher bedtime stories..sounds like heaven for these two.. Barf
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Post by truthbtold Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:30 pm

After today's interviews with Billie, Clint, and Connie Jones, I need some Fiesta Ware!!

Today was a very significant day, imo. Lots of position-staking by the adults in Hailey's life. Have some ideas, but not sure exactly what it all means - things are getting interesting. Just hope somehow it leads to Hailey's swift rescue/recovery...



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Post by samgoodwin Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:34 pm

eeuuww, nosy. I agree with your green smiley on that one. I have to wonder what Clint will think if boy toy goes with and is in her room - if Shawn still has a lawyer, I'm sure he'd advise against that.
I sure hope someone trustworthy is keeping an eye on David and Clint's family if Shawn is left in town while Billie and Clint are gone.
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Post by truthbtold Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:40 pm

samgoodwin wrote:eeuuww, nosy. I agree with your green smiley on that one. I have to wonder what Clint will think if boy toy goes with and is in her room - if Shawn still has a lawyer, I'm sure he'd advise against that.
I sure hope someone trustworthy is keeping an eye on David and Clint's family if Shawn is left in town while Billie and Clint are gone.

Good point samgoodwin. If Grandma Jones was telling the truth about Shawn showing up at her house, threatening her family, and fighting with Clint, it's not a big leap to think he'd be even madder after she spilled it on the radio show (including the fact that David doesn't like him). Personally, I believe Grandma was being truthful about it - she said the police came to the house and confiscated the spiked bat that Shawn was reaching for. Probably a record of this altercation on file...
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Post by Nama Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:49 pm

New public site from Billie and Clint (just info, no discussion):
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] hopeforhailey.org
truthbtold note: doesn't appear operational yet..
That link is no good. Here is the correct address...BJ
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Post by truthbtold Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:52 pm

BJ wrote:
New public site from Billie and Clint (just info, no discussion):
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] hopeforhailey.org
truthbtold note: doesn't appear operational yet..
That link is no good. Here is the correct address...BJ
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Thanks BJ! Grandma Jones said twice it was "hopeforhailey.org". I didn't get the impression it was a Facebook page, but I could be wrong..
ADDED: Will try to listen to the show again tomorrow and add/correct the rough notes posted upthread. It's very tough to hear this particular show even when the volume is maxed...


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Post by Nama Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:07 am

I corrected the address in one post awhile back, but I didn't remember whose post....it was posted as a .org address and didn't work and I found Facebook page with the same title.
My guess is it is this Facebook account since the page I posted the link to has only been up since Sunday and seems to be all about Clint and Billie.
If I'm wrong..... it would be the first time. :tongue in chee
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Post by Wrapitup Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:07 am

You better believe I most definitely think that Miss Billie has her mind set on Shawn going to Dallas.. In the article from today she put their three names together and says..Shawn..Clint..and me all miss Hailey and want her home..He's going to Dallas.. and I guaran damn tee you Miss Billie is tickled to death seeing this as a mini vacation for them to get away and stay in a hotel like the the Loews with a suite and a jacuzzi..romanticizing the masked lover boy-toy! Barf

**Added: I wonder if he has any of his masks that they love so much or were they all seized by LE..I'm sure Billie can find her a damn internet somewhere with a printer and print off their fav slasher bedtime stories..masks..romantics..jacuzzi..slasher bedtime stories..sounds like
ROFLMAO!!!! ROFLMAO ROFLMAO ROFLMAO :lol: :lol: :lol:

NN, You kill me!!

And, I also edited your post with the you tube link and posted the you tube video before I knew BJ had also posted it. Pls forgive me.

That video was absolutely heart wrenching!!
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Post by NosyNeighbor Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:09 am

The FB Hope for Hailey is being run by momma Connie..Billie's mom..and you are correct TBT it is hopeforhailey.org{it probably is just not up yet}..because the site was specifically made as a NON BLOG type site nor even allows for any comments to be made..As Billie said it is the only place where you will get mine and Clint's unedited words actually from us..info with updates..not the new FB that ones run by mama to Billie
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Post by NosyNeighbor Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:13 am

Thanks so much wrap..feel free to edit as need be.. I'm lucky I even got the link posted as the first go around it was a dud link..lol..

Thanks wrap! and I'm serious about the rendezvous those two are planning..Kinda reminds me of when Ronald and Misty took the trip to New York all expense paid by the Today Show..they were living it up..called it their honeymoon..
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Post by Wrapitup Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:18 am

NN, or when the Anthony's stayed at the Ritz after returning from LA when Caylee's remains were found by Krunk. As NG put it, "eating crab puffs and fried tomatoes living it up at The Ritz." crazy3
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Post by truthbtold Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:21 am

NosyNeighbor wrote:The FB Hope for Hailey is being run by momma Connie..Billie's mom..and you are correct TBT it is hopeforhailey.org{it probably is just not up yet}..because the site was specifically made as a NON BLOG type site nor even allows for any comments to be made..As Billie said it is the only place where you will get mine and Clint's unedited words actually from us..info with updates..not the new FB that ones run by mama to Billie

Thanks for clearing that up Nosy - it's confusing with all of the different sites. I did a little research and I believe the .org site that Grandma Jones mentioned is going to be set up by Amber Dubois's mom.

Billie really wants to pull in the reins and get more control of the communication surrounding her and Shawn, imo. She wants a PR vehicle that can't be challenged. If it helps keep Hailey's face out there, it's ultimately a good thing, imo.

P.s. If I see a donations solicitation on that new site, it will not surprise me one bit. If there is one, I hope Amber's mom Carrie is having the TeamAmber organization control all of the donations and that there is a clear statement as to how the donations will be distributed...


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Post by NosyNeighbor Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:33 am

Oh yes I remember the Anthony's at the Ritz..I believe Lee and all were there even that creep Dominic that was trying to get to Caylee's remains before LE..arrghh!

wrap you just really made me start craving some crab cakes when you mentioned the "crab puffs"..lol..I am so hungry and lordy how I wish I had some lump crab meat..I'd seriously cook us up a batch of delish crab cakes..mmmmm MMmmmm.. and no I'm not pregnant but I certainly am craving crab cakes now..lol
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Post by truthbtold Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:36 am

Okay, it's past my bed time and now I've got a hankering for crab cakes.

Good night all. May tomorrow be the day sweet Hailey is found...
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Post by Wrapitup Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:38 am

O/T....you are making me hungry! If you are a great cook, we have a recipe site. When you have time, check it out.

Sorry everyone..even I get off topic sometimes. We are all human.
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Post by NosyNeighbor Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:51 am

Wow..also from the BTH interview of Grandma and aunt..

Grandma Connie says that David has not seen Billie in weeks..

But don't you guys remember Billie says he's over everyday..as well as that being the reason for the red sports car in Billies driveway..all cuz David's there everyday..

More lies..lies ..lies..

Also Grandma says that Billie Did infact tattoo David's back "tapout"..Hailey told her that mom did David's "tattoo" with something from the hospital that they use to circumsize little boys..

And lastly that David told the preacher that he did not like Shawn a bit cuz he was mean to his mom..
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Post by NosyNeighbor Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:15 am

~Grandma Connie also does state that she thinks LE need to look at Naomi's mom too.{WTF?} because she had threatened to hurt Billie as well..she quickly says she believes it was SA that did it tho..but she does want all avenues investigated.

~Grandma says she does think that Shawn went back to the house after he strangely left work at 6:10am ..Hailey home alone that SA molested or raped Hailey and then when she said she'd tell he killed her..

~Grandma will not say much about Billie directly because its her bestfriend's daughter..

~Clint's sis Mary tho is much more vocal about Billie and SA..She asks how could she be hanging out with SA? Mary asks How could she be back living with him in that home but have neither of her children..She's extremely suspicious of SA {and you'll have to have a listen for yourselves } but Mary is suspicious of Billie as well IMO and she thinks definite possibility that drugs are somehow tied into what Happened to Hailey

~The entire fight between Clint and Shawn{SA showed up at Connies house{CD's moms} where Clint was at and he threatened to kill both Clint and his mom.. During the altercation outside of CD's moms house Shawn goes to grab his weapon{homemade weapon made from baseball bat with nails all the way around and down the bat}..LE arrives just as SA is getting his weapon.. The weapon is taken into LE custody and to her knowledge is still at Police Dept locked up..

~Motive for the fight that SA showed at her house threatening to kill Clint and his mom was all due to the fact that Shawn thought that Billie and Clint were seeing each other behind his back.. Clint's mom says that CD/BD were not seeing each other at that time as Clint had made it clear by that point in time that he was through with seeing Billie on the side/or getting back with her at all..
(IMO I think we just found out what was behind those "death threats" that SA made to BD last February..accusations of Billie seeing Clint)

~Naomi's mom dates Clint's half brother Brian G..the one that was the mm{mysteryman} for a while.. The one that supposedly threatened to kill Hailey stated Billie.. Untrue that Brian ever threatened Hailey it was strictly Billie that he threatened to hit in the head with a hammer..

**anyone else seeing the common factor time after time..There are an awful lot of ppl that Billie has wronged or pissed off and they have threatened Billie..
And IMO that is what happens in SmallTown USA when you've got someone with Billies demeanor..selfishness..etc..many ppl in the town become bitter and angry towards such a person and yes even makes threats..

~Grandma asked about BJD's lack of emotion..she says shes seen Billie be upset and boohooing and crying over Clint..{so she does get really upset and cry..just not about Hailey that we've seen}

~Grandma also says there's been times when Billie stayed with her at {Connies-CD's mom} her house and been in fear of SA and what he'd do..scared he was gonna hurt her..said that SA had held his ex-gf as hostage at gunpoint..doesn't know all details but would like to speak with this ex-gf of SA's..


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Post by jeanne1807 Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:44 am

NosyNeighbor wrote:
jeanne1807 wrote:NN I kind of understand what you are saying but I also think that gives CD way too much credit. I don't think him that bright to put all of that together.

For him to understand MK puts Clint on a whole nother level and I just can't go there.

In my mind BD has done what she has always done with Clint. Pulled the wool over his eyes.

For some reason Clint admires BD. Even though they are apart he still wants to believe she is innocent.

It will be interesting this road trip they take this weekend.


Oh God NO!!! I do not think that Clint is that intelligent that he realizes what is my opinion of MK and what he's doing..No just the opposite..I'm saying Clint is clueless and confused and that MK a legit org showing support for Billie who is os very obviously lying and at the least covering for SA..that MK is on her side makes Clint even more confused..and that he has no one to turn to.. I think he doesn't know what in the hell to do..

See what I;m saying?

LOL yes I sure do. I guess I was reading too fast. I thought you thought Clint smart! Couple Hugging
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Post by jeanne1807 Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:08 am

TBT you asked about contributions above. This is what I know.

Billie was a steady worker at the hospital. She worked there 7 years. I am sure they have some kind of benefits for employees. There is also a policy that a lot of employees will pay for out of their own pocket. AFLAK is one. An employee pays so much each week and they are guaranteed an income for quite a long period.

I also read that several of her fellow employees donated hours/days to her. So with whatever she had accumulated she had more.

Also her hospital had a lot of employees that wanted to donate to finding her daughter. So the hospital set up a fund at a local bank. I never heard anything about how much went in there. It was publicised and not only for employees but anybody that wished to contribute.

Billies SIL said on one of the FB pages that Billie is paying for her tv with a tax return check she is to receive.

I believe it was Ambers mother only that gave a donation from her fund for Billie to pay bills. I wonder if Ambers mother knew about all of the above when she made that generous gift. They gave nothing to Clint.

As far as Clint. They were asking that money be sent to his mothers house. And on one video I saw somebody slipping him some cash.

I don't really know Clints work history so I don't know what benefits would be available to him? I know one time they asked for things or cash to not upset his "benefits".

All of the above was read in my travels so I would have to say..all rumors.

Hope this helps some.
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Post by jeanne1807 Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:17 am

I am wondering. Would youtube happen to have a video..words only..of last nights blog radio chat?
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Post by truthbtold Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:33 am

Thanks Jeanne for the info about Billie's employment and support from her community.

I'm thinking that existing well is probably running dry and possibly new avenues for incoming funds is on Billie and company's agenda. I see selfish and greedy when I look at Billie. I think money explains some of the behavior and connections in this case. This is just my opinion and speculation right now (trying to connect some dots).

I don't doubt for one minute that Clint is accepting every penny that folks are willing to contribute to him. For now, I'm unaware that he's buying things like big screens and hopefully he's using any money to search and put the food on the table. I hope money isn't anything more than a side issue to ensure he can keep focusing on finding Hailey, but we'll see how it all plays out. He never seemed to have any money before; his lifestyle seems pretty minimalistic. Weed, food, love... Billie certainly seems to have a stronger work history. She is also much more money-driven (if the story of her side jobs is true, and I think it is).

P.s. It was Somer Thompson's mom Diena that donated money to Billie a few weeks ago. Amber DuBois's mom Carrie and TeamAmber is helping to search and possibly set up the .org Hope for Hailey site.
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Post by jeanne1807 Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:47 am

TBT you are right. It was Diena. I get them all mixed up.

Speaking of that. That makes four different groups that have "arrived".

Does anybody know how strong these groups actually are. Do they have to file papers showing how much is donated each year?

I think it will be interesting to see if Diena's funds go down after this donation of contributed funds to BD. I do believe a lot of people were unhappy with that decision.

Actually we have never done a topic on "Search Groups" Why they were formed. Their membership. Their success rate and their balance sheet.

I think that would be an interesting subject to pursue.
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Post by truthbtold Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:19 am

jeanne1807 wrote:TBT you are right. It was Diena. I get them all mixed up.

Speaking of that. That makes four different groups that have "arrived".

Does anybody know how strong these groups actually are. Do they have to file papers showing how much is donated each year?

I think it will be interesting to see if Diena's funds go down after this donation of contributed funds to BD. I do believe a lot of people were unhappy with that decision.


Actually we have never done a topic on "Search Groups" Why they were formed. Their membership. Their success rate and their balance sheet.

I think that would be an interesting subject to pursue.


Jeanne, you're reading my mind! I was just thinking that Billie might actually be brilliant (don't shoot me). Despite the lies, inconsistencies, LE and local search group bashing, and hanging out with the suspect, Billie Jean has managed to attract the support of Marc Klaas, Diena Thompson, and Carrie McGonigle. Also, Laura Recovery's aid in searching. Her Nancy Grace appearances served her well.

Diena and Carrie are new to their roles and I don't doubt that they have good intentions and plan to do good works. However, I too hope that the first parental "victim" of a missing child that they've chosen to support publicly doesn't come back to bite them. Marc's been around the block. I hope that NosyNeighbor is right and that he sees the writing on the wall, but continues to lend his support for Hailey's sake only. I do wish he hadn't bashed LE based on Billie's false claims when she first appeared on Nancy Grace. He was hostile in his criticism and it was premature. Imo, LE had every reason to consider Hailey might have run away or been hidden once they started getting info about the family dynamics and learning that Hailey was desperate to get out of Billie's house and move in with her dad (according to published interviews with her friend MB's mom, Clint, Grandma Jones, family friend D. Byerley, her Aunt's OK magazine interview...). Marc was unaware that a parallel criminal investigation was underway by 12/29, but he knows now...

I admire and support Marc and Klaas Kids, but he and his team are only human(s) and I hope he's backed off on making LE the bad guys to Billie's "wonderful mother and victim" routine. On some level, I think a parent who has truly been through the devastation of a missing child is less likely to be suspicious of any parent whose child is missing. They know family members are first suspected and I wonder if they find it almost incomprehensible that a parent would actually be involved. I agree with all of you that stated Marc should stick to his guns about family members doing everything possible to clear themselves and pleading to take polys (along with his motto about the truth never changing). He seems to have set those aside with Billie; maybe it just appears that way?

If it turns out that Billie Jean is involved in harming Hailey or putting her in hiding and she has been conning/milking it for financial gain, I would certainly expect there to be stiff charges leveled against her for fraud, amongst other serious crimes.

ADDED: Now that I think of it, Marc has often praised Carrie for her handling of Amber's disappearance. I believe he is somewhat of a mentor to her in starting her organization. Not sure about Diena. Maybe he is what attracted them to this case, not Billie.


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Post by Wrapitup Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:29 am

I was just thinking that Billie might actually be brilliant (don't shoot me)
TBT, I do Not think that Billie is brilliant. I think she is a master manipulator quite similar to Cindy Anthony.


If it turns out that Billie Jean is involved in harming Hailey or putting her in hiding and she has been conning/milking it for financial gain, I would certainly expect there to be stiff charges leveled against her for fraud, amongst other serious crimes.
Agreed; however..Cindy, by all accounts, should have been arrested for obstruction and it never happened.
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Wrapitup wrote:
I was just thinking that Billie might actually be brilliant (don't shoot me)
TBT, I do Not think that Billie is brilliant. I think she is a master manipulator quite similar to Cindy Anthony.

Agreed Wrap, much more likely. I just added a note to my original post. Upon reflection, I think Marc Klaas is what brought the other groups in to Hailey's case, not Billie herself.
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Post by charminglane Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:38 am

This has been brewing in my mind for days regarding BD and financial assistance/loyalties:

Klass Kids = $
Team Amber = $
Laura Recovery = $
Hailey's Angels = 0

Yet to be confirmed.
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Post by truthbtold Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:40 am

I agree Wrap. Cindy Anthony did obstruct justice and should have been charged. However, I personally believe she was in no way aware or involved in Caylee's demise until Casey showed up without Caylee 30 days later. Billie, on the other hand, has been front and center in Hailey's disappearance from day 1. If Billie is involved/aware and milking it, it's much more serious than obstruction of justice, imo...

I truly hope that there is no financial motive or after-the-fact scheme in regards to Hailey. But, my antenna is way up right now...
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Post by jeanne1807 Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:41 am

Wrapitup wrote:
I was just thinking that Billie might actually be brilliant (don't shoot me)
TBT, I do Not think that Billie is brilliant. I think she is a master manipulator quite similar to Cindy Anthony.


If it turns out that Billie Jean is involved in harming Hailey or putting her in hiding and she has been conning/milking it for financial gain, I would certainly expect there to be stiff charges leveled against her for fraud, amongst other serious crimes.
Agreed; however..Cindy, by all accounts, should have been arrested for obstruction and it never happened.


Wrap I truly believe that once Caseys trial is over..there will be charges against Cindy. No way will she get away with the things she has said and done.

I think Cindy and George see that coming. That is why Cindy has changed her appearance into a "worn woman" and George is pleading his case on the video of him losing Caylee.

It's coming. Just like Ron and Misty thought they were so darn smart and we had to watch them parade around town.

Every dog has it's day and every cat "her night".
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Post by Wrapitup Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:44 am

True and truer, TBT and Jeanne.

TBT, you made a good point that Billie has been "in this" since day one. Cindy, not.

Jeanne, I hope that every dog and cat have their days and nights. I will also add...even afternoons.
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Post by truthbtold Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:02 am

Good point Jeanne - probably more difficult to successfuly convict somebody for obstructing justice before it's proven in a court of law what crime actually took place and who was responsible. Your thoughts on what is driving Cindy and George's current actions make very good sense; they see it coming...

Don't shoot me (again), while I deplore the behaviour of all of the Anthonys, I do think that George and Cindy absolutely adored Caylee and were devastated by the loss. Supporting Casey when they should have supported Caylee was a huge mistake that, imo, led two true victims into becoming after-the-fact conspirators and frauds. Tragic, but their own fault and they should be held responsible. I hope we don't see anything like that happen with Hailey's family members who truly love her....
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Post by Wrapitup Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:06 am

TBT, I doubt anyone w/shoot you for your opinion, as most w/agree with you. When and if you have the time and inclination, please check out our enormous threads on The Anthony Case.

I do not think anything in Hailey missing is similar to the Anthony case except that Billie and Cindy are a lot alike. Someone said to me that they think Billie is a combination of Cindy Anthony and Ron Cummings. The mental pic makes me Barf
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Post by truthbtold Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:27 am

gnreed wrote:Does anyone have the link where Sparky Dean says,
"There are key people in this case that continue to change their story or flat out lie." (?)

I believe it was about four weeks ago. He made other comments that I am interested in seeing again.

With BD changing her story everytime she speaks to the media, I can only imagine what LE has heard.

Hi gnreed, Sparky said that in a press conference on Jan 9th. Here is part of the write-up published on Jan 10thL

Colorado City, TX—Monday marks what investigators believe is two weeks since Hailey Dunn, 13, vanished in Colorado City.

Now, however, they aren't so sure that time line is accurate.
"The family has not been forthcoming," said Senior DPS Trooper Sparky Dean. "Their discernment of the truth continues to change. It's very frustrating."

Hailey's mother's boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, claims to be the last person to see the teen before she vanished from her home in Colorado City, a small town of 4,000, located halfway between Abilene and Midland. Adkins said on the afternoon of Monday, Dec. 27, Hailey told him she was going to stop by her dad's house before staying at a friend's home that evening. She left the home and hasn't been spotted since.

"At this point, we aren't positive if she went missing (on that) Sunday, Monday, or even Tuesday," Dean said during a news conference on Jan. 9.

One thing that is for sure – Hailey's mother Billie Dunn reported her missing Tuesday, Dec. 28. Thirteen days into the investigation, authorities say they have yet to discover evidence of foul play, and it appears Hailey is hiding and doesn't want to be found.

"I'm confident we'll find Hailey," said Dean. "I don't think Hailey wants to be found. I believe she's hiding. She's probably scared at this point. We're going to find her."

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Post by truthbtold Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:29 am

Wrapitup wrote:TBT, I doubt anyone w/shoot you for your opinion, as most w/agree with you. When and if you have the time and inclination, please check out our enormous threads on The Anthony Case.

I do not think anything in Hailey missing is similar to the Anthony case except that Billie and Cindy are a lot alike. Someone said to me that they think Billie is a combination of Cindy Anthony and Ron Cummings. The mental pic makes me Barf

Thanks Wrap - I'll check it out! Sorry to go a little off-topic.

P.s. I can see what y'all are saying about Billie having characteristics similar to Cindy A and Ronald C. Yikes!
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Post by gnreed Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:32 am

This is old. Two weeks into the investigation:
Two Weeks Later: Still No Sign of Hailey Dunn (with video)

Colorado City, TX - Monday marks what investigators believe is two weeks since 13-year-old Hailey Dunn vanished in Colorado City. But at this point, they aren't so sure their timeline is accurate.
“The family has not been forthcoming," said Senior DPS Trooper Sparky Dean. "Their discernment of the truth continues to change. It's very frustrating."
Hailey's mother's boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, claims to be the last person to see the teen before she vanished from her home in Colorado City, a small town of 4,000, located halfway between Abilene and Midland. Adkins said on the afternoon of Monday, December 27, Hailey told him she was going to stop by her dad's house before staying at a friend's home that evening. She left the home and hasn't been spotted since.

"At this point, we aren't positive if she went missing Sunday, Monday, or even Tuesday," Dean said during a news conference Sunday.

One thing that is for sure: Hailey's mother Billie Dunn reported her missing Tuesday, December 28. Thirteen days into the investigation, authorities say they have yet to discover evidence of foul play and it appears Hailey is hiding and doesn't want to be found.

"I'm confident we'll find Hailey," said Dean. "I don't think Hailey wants to be found. I believe she's hiding. She's probably scared at this point. We're going to find her."

Dean tells KTAB News Billie Dunn was asked additional questions over the weekend by investigators. Billie Dunn also told KTAB's Tiffany Tatro that she was asked to take another polygraph test. She went on to say she's not sure if she'll take it because she's frustrated with the system. Billie Dunn claims both she and her boyfriend Shawn Adkins failed their polygraph tests last week. Investigators say they never revealed results of the testing to Dunn or Adkins.

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Post by truthbtold Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:44 am

gnreed, Sparky hasn't made comments in some time as that role was turned over exclusively to Pete Kampfer over a month ago. The old article I posted was Sparky's quote (as you requested) about the false statements. Here is a newer one about changing time lines, but the statement is from Kampfer on 1/26. Just trying to be helpful; google searching the quote you have in mind might help if this isn't what you're looking for.

Investigators tighten numbers
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Posted January 26, 2011 - 2:48pm

Investigators searching into the disappearance of Hailey Dunn have distilled down to a mere handful of Texas Rangers and local officials.

“We’re at a point where we’re down to a focus group of investigators,” Pete Kampfer, city manager said. “Although it’s a limited focus work force, we’re still working the case; we’re still working leads as they become available.”

The task force’s emphasis is now primarily a criminal investigation, according to Kampfer. “We consider Hailey as under duress.”

Rumors that the murder of a 15 year old girl in Lubbock Monday is tied in with the Dunn case are false, according to Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs.

Meanwhile, investigators continue to sift through evidence to establish a time line for Hailey's disappearance.

Kampfer stated investigators haven’t been able to corroborate any witnesses seeing Hailey on December 27, the day she supposedly disappeared while on the way to spend the night with a friend.

“Taking the electronic data and mixing it in, the time tables don’t match up,” he said.

The move toward a criminal investigation is based upon evidence from search warrants, voluntary searches, interviews (to include polygraphing) and suspicion of time table.


“When you start piecing all things together, it points a finger at a small group of individuals or one individual as being suspicious,” Kampfer said. Although investigators still consider Shawn Adkins, former boyfriend of Hailey’s mother Billie Dunn a prime suspect, Kampfer said there were other “persons of interest.”

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Post by Wrapitup Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:46 am

google searching the quote you have in mind might help if this isn't what you're looking for.
I tried that and came up empty handed.

TBT, you are so helpful!!!!
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Post by gnreed Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:46 am

The one I posted was two weeks into the investigation. It's pretty clear LE was on to SA and BD from the beginning.

I also believe they told Sparky to hush. JMO

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Post by truthbtold Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:59 am

gnreed wrote:The one I posted was two weeks into the investigation. It's pretty clear LE was on to SA and BD from the beginning.

I also believe they told Sparky to hush. JMO

I miss Sparky! He is not "officially" assigned to the case anymore, per the re-org of the team. Kampfer has certainly been given scripts as to what he can and can't say, imo. Might be part of why it's hard to figure out what he means when he answers questions sometimes.

P.s. I don't recall Sparky ever saying that the family "flat out lied", but the statement in the old article is about as close as you can get while still being somewhat politically correct. Sparky never retracted nor changed his stance while he was the spokesperson. I agree with you, he was on to Billie and Shawn from the get-go. Their phones were seized and Shawn's mom's computer was seized within two days of the missing report filing. Says a lot. JMO.

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Post by Wrapitup Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:10 pm

gnreed wrote:The one I posted was two weeks into the investigation. It's pretty clear LE was on to SA and BD from the beginning.

I also believe they told Sparky to hush. JMO
I found this video of Sparky talking on January 6th. Some of the audio is distorted but it's pretty interesting:

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