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Post by artgal16 Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:21 pm

Its not a church its a bunch of bigots and extremists that pick their targets based upon how much attention they can get. There is nothing church-like about it.

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Post by lisette Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:29 pm

I think it is a misnomer to even call that hate-mongering bunch a "church"!!
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Post by artgal16 Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:45 pm

they cancelled their protest:

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Post by Slys Hunny Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:51 pm

I agree the term church should not be used for them. I have seen them with little kisa 5-6 years old holding signs with the F word and horrible things on them. There are several hundreds of us around here that stand infront of them with american flags and alot are on motorcycles and alot are vetrans or familys of veterans. We do waht we can within the law to keep them from being close to the families.
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Post by artgal16 Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:56 pm

Good for you Slys - they need other people to stand up for themselves - not that it does much good -and unfortunately we have found that we cant stop children from being taught this nonsense - it will certainly not do them any good in their future lives -
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Post by Lilone Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:59 pm

A radio talk show offered the church time to express its views on his program if it agreed to call off the protest. After Fred Phelps Jr., founder of the church, was interviewed on the program, he tweeted that the protest had been called off.
...MSNBC, U.S. News
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Post by lisette Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:11 pm

Comforter found at Powell storage unit to be tested

GRAHAM, Wash. — A copy of a search warrant served on a storage unit rented by Joshua Powell shows detectives recovered several bags with children's toys, and a comforter with a stain that will undergo "presumptive testing."

The warrant was served this week after Powell set a fire in his Graham home killing himself and his two sons, Charlie and Braden.

The return lists several items including a plastic bin with toys, a blue, yellow and green box with toy blocks, white garbage bags with linens and children's clothing, and a grey, blue and pink comforter.

Investigators told KIRO 7's Kevin McCarty they're focusing on the comforter because of an unidentified stain. At this point it is not known if any of the items will be useful in the murder investigation of Powell's wife, Susan Cox Powell, who disappeared from the couple's home in West Valley City, Utah, in December 2009.

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Post by Wrapitup Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:44 pm

I found it odd that Dr Phil kept saying LE is doing such a fantastic job. BS!!! I think part of the problem is the different jurisdictions..Utah and Washington States. If LE were doing their jobs, JP would have been behind bars years ago and the boys would be alive today!

I did think the show was good but didn't learn anything we didn't know already..except that they reached out to Steve Powell in jail and he declined to be on the show via skype.
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Post by Wrapitup Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:47 pm

Anti-gay Westboro church cancels protest at Powell sons' funeral
By M. Alex Johnson, msnbc.com
Updated at 4:40 p.m. ET:

Bobby D, the host of the Seattle radio show where Westboro Baptist Church founder Fred Phelps Jr. spoke, writes on the show's site that he offered Phelps the opportunity because "it's about the family":

You think I WANT to have these people on a show that I have worked so hard at perfecting to my liking? NO way. Having said that, I care about people and I DO NOT want them at a place that needs to be peaceful and a time ONLY for grieving and remembering.

Original post: Westboro Baptist Church, the virulently anti-gay group known for protesting at military funerals, has canceled its plans to protest the funeral Saturday of the two young boys who were killed last weekend by their father, Josh Powell.

The church, which is based in Topeka, Kan., had asserted that the deaths of Charlie and Braden Powell were payback from God over the Washington Legislature's recent endorsement of same-sex marriage.

A radio talk show offered the church time to express its views if it agreed to call off the protest. After Fred Phelps Jr., founder of the church, was interviewed on the program, he tweeted that the protest had been called off.

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Post by Wrapitup Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:49 pm

Steve Powell may not attend his grandsons’ funeral

BY MELINDA ROGERS
The Salt Lake Tribune

First published 5 hours ago
Updated 1 hour ago

As family and friends of Charlie and Braden Powell prepare for Saturday funeral services, there is one family member who is not expected to attend.

The children’s paternal grandfather, Steve Powell, has not been granted a transport from the Pierce County Jail to attend the funeral, said Pierce County Sheriff’s Office spokesman Ed Troyer Friday morning. Steve Powell, 61, is being held in the Pierce County jail awaiting trial on counts of voyeurism and child pornography.

The Powell boys, ages 7 and 5, died Sunday at the hand of their father, Josh Powell, who attacked them with a hatchet and then set a fire in his home which killed all three. A funeral service for the boys will be held on Saturday at 11 a.m. at Life Center Church, 1717 S. Union Ave. Tacoma, Wash. A private family interment will follow at Woodbine Cemetery in Puyallup on Monday.

Criminal defendants are able to ask a judge to attend funerals of family members, but a judge must grant such requests. Troyer said as of Friday morning, there were no transport orders on file for Steve Powell at the jail.

Steve Powell is charged with 14 counts of voyeurism and one count of possessing an image of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct. Washington Prosecutor Grant Blinn has said that Powell took images over a 10-year span, with the court case focusing on voyeurism episodes from 2006 and 2007.

Powell is being represented by attorneys Mark T. Quigley and Travis R. Currie. Both are attorneys with the Pierce County Department of Assigned Counsel.

Quigley couldn’t immediately be reached on Friday to speak to whether his client had requested funeral transport. Court dockets don’t indicate that a request has been made.

Sheriff’s deputies from Tacoma, Wash., arrested Powell on Sept. 22 after detectives from West Valley City served a search warrant on his Puyallup home, which he shared with his son, Josh; his grandsons; and his adult children Alina Powell and John Powell. Detectives were looking for potential evidence in the case of Susan Powell and found images of the woman taken surreptitiously by Steve Powell, prosecutors have alleged.

Steve Powell has said his daughter-in-law made sexual advances toward him — allegations disputed by Susan Powell’s friends and family. Steve Powell made national television appearances where he stated that he had romantic feelings for his daughter-in-law and that he wished their relationship had been more intimate than it was.

Susan Powell had reportedly told her husband’s sister, Jennifer Graves of West Jordan, that Steve Powell made her uncomfortable and sent her inappropriate nude photos of men in a package containing photos of her favorite movie star. Graves has said her sister-in-law also said that Steve Powell made remarks about Susan Powell "sharing" herself with him and his son.

Susan Powell disappeared from her home in West Valley City on Dec. 6, 2009. Family and attorneys connected to Susan Powell have said they believe Josh Powell murdered his wife.

Police have called Josh Powell and Steve Powell "persons of interest" in the case.

In court declarations filed earlier this fall, two of Steve Powell’s children wrote they were surprised their father was arrested.

"The arrest comes as a surprise to all individuals I have talked to, especially those closest to my father," wrote Michael Powell, 29, who is a University of Minnesota student living in Minneapolis, in court documents.

"Everyone is of course saddened by it. The charges are not consistent with the way I know my father to behave."

Michael Powell wrote that he and his siblings do not intend to post bail for their father.

Jennifer Graves, who is estranged from her father and siblings, said in an interview following her father’s arrest that she that the man was behind bars so he could not victimize other people. She said Steve Powell has a pornography addiction and she and her husband made it a point to never leave their children alone with Steve Powell because of his history of questionable behavior.

She has written in a court declaration that as a 12-year-old, she went on a work trip with Steve Powell and that he watched a television show involving naked women while she was in the room.

"Pornography has been an issue in this family for three decades," Graves wrote. "

A statement from the Powell family released earlier this week says they have decided to delay memorial services for Josh Powell to allow the children to be memorialized and "give everyone a chance to deal with this devastating situation one step at a time."

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Post by Wrapitup Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:53 pm

Father-in-law dragged deeper into Powell saga

BY MIKE BAKER AND GENE JOHNSON
ASSOCIATED PRESS

OLYMPIA, Wash. -- In a folder on his work computer labeled "Personal Pics," Steve Powell maintained a peculiar collection of photos: 55 depicting his daughter-in-law Susan but few if any showing his son.

Thousands of images and emails on his Washington state government-issued laptop provide a small glimpse into his increasingly scrutinized world. Authorities said this week that he is a person of interest in her 2009 disappearance in Utah.

The files, obtained by The Associated Press as part of a public records request, portray Steve Powell as a meticulous worker who gathered photos by the thousands and had his life upended by the constant inquiries that ensued after Susan vanished.

He is now in jail on voyeurism and child pornography charges - and on suicide watch.

Powell's son and Susan's husband, Josh, killed himself and the couple's two young sons in a gas-fueled inferno Sunday that a prosecutor considers an admission that he killed his wife.

Until this week, authorities have only publicly discussed Steve Powell in relation to the charges he now faces. But a warrant and emails indicate that he has been dragged deeply into the Utah investigation surrounding his son, and police say they want to interview him to see if he knows anything about his daughter-in-law's disappearance.

"He may or may not have information that may be beneficial to us," said Sgt. Mike Powell in West Valley City, Utah, where Josh and Susan Powell lived at the time of her disappearance. Sgt. Powell is not related to the family.

The September warrant sought details specifically from Steve Powell's laptop, which he used in his job helping coordinate purchase and placement of school furniture. It also requested a search of state-owned vehicles that Powell may have driven.

Steve Powell said last year that he had a flirtatious and somewhat sexual relationship with Susan Powell. Her parents said she thought he was a creep and moved to Utah in part to get away from him.

In a search of Steve Powell's Washington state home last year, authorities found explicit images on his computers and images of people being photographed without their knowledge. Among them were pictures of Susan Powell.

Those findings led to the charges of voyeurism and child porn, to which he has pleaded not guilty. The state took custody of Josh Powell's boys and turned them over to Susan's parents, Chuck and Judy Cox.

Powell's work computer has a batch of photos of Susan Powell, though none appear to be sexual. They depict her and the kids opening Christmas presents and out during Halloween. A few show Susan Powell and the kids more formally dressed. It's not clear who the photographer is.

An attorney for Steve Powell did not return a call seeking comment.

Pierce County Prosecutor Mark Lindquist, who is overseeing the voyeurism prosecution, said it's his understanding from the images collected that Susan Powell is the subject of much of Steve Powell's photographic attention.

He said the many images of Susan Powell might be of some interest to Utah authorities, but he has seen no evidence connecting Steve Powell to what he calls Susan Powell's murder.

Emails show that Powell was actively working in the days around when Susan Powell disappeared on Dec. 6, 2009. He responded to emails the next morning, even drawing praise from a manager for pointing out an oversight related to holiday cards.

A school district contact that he was scheduled to meet with that week said she never had any problems with Steve Powell and never realized he was Josh Powell's father until seeing him later on television.

"He was always professional and did what he was supposed to do," Susan Garthwaite said.

A couple weeks later, on Dec. 21, he wrote to a colleague about how Josh and the boys had moved back to live with him and that the children were traumatized by the bright lights of the media and "the searches."

"Even with Josh and the boys here, I am so numb much of each day that I have to put myself on auto-pilot to get things done," he wrote. "I know there are people with worse problems, but when it's yourself experiencing the suffering, you can't just tune it out."

He then added: "I still need to send a card to Susan's folks."

Her parents said no such card ever arrived.

Powell later described to a colleague in 2011 how he and Josh were baffled by the ongoing investigation in Utah.

The case appeared to take an increasing toll on him. He requested time off around the time of the search warrants and then later complained of harassing phone calls from Utah that accused him of "harboring a criminal, accusing my son of murder."

In the search warrant used to examine Powell's belongings, authorities said, they were investigating a murder in West Valley City, Utah, though nobody has ever been charged with a crime.

Utah investigators say the case remains open and they are still publicly calling it a "missing persons" matter.

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Post by Wrapitup Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:54 am

MANUEL VALDES and MIKE BAKER 02/10/12 11:12 PM ET

SEATTLE — Police in Washington state who searched a storage unit rented by Josh Powell found a stained comforter that tested positive for blood in initial exams, according to documents filed in court Friday.

Pierce County detectives reported finding a gray-blue-pink comforter with a stain. The search warrant documents say the comforter tested positive for blood. Investigators planned to perform further tests.

Powell killed himself and his two young sons in a gas-fueled inferno Sunday, and Pierce County authorities consider the murder-suicide an admission that he killed his wife.

Investigators had considered Josh Powell a person of interest since his wife, Susan Powell, disappeared in Utah in 2009. At the time, Powell said he took his two sons ice camping in subfreezing temperatures.

Also on Friday, the sheriff's department released a timeline that spans from Saturday, the day before the blast, to Monday, the day after. Among the details that police are trying to determine is if Powell bought the gas cans at a local Fred Meyer store the night before the house fire.

This past week, investigators have tried to piece together Powell's last days, serving search warrants for his sister's cell phone and a local Bank of America branch where security cameras captured him withdrawing money.

Police also received tips from the public, such as a woman who noticed donated books had Josh and Susan Powell written in them.

On blood found on the comforter, Pierce County Prosecutor Mark Lindquist said presumptive tests are conducted with a field kit and that a determination of blood won't be confirmed until the item is examined in the lab.

"Field tests are not infallible," he said.

Lindquist said he expects the finding will be something law enforcement will share with colleagues in Utah who have been investigating Susan Powell's disappearance.

The comforter was the only item police kept from what they found in the storage facility, located in Sumner, a city about 12 miles from Graham, where Powell rented a home.

Investigators also found toys and kids' clothes in garbage bags, as well as framed pictures. Those items were given to Susan Powell's family.

In the warrant, the investigator wrote items were "returned to Cox family."

The boys had just been brought by a Child Protective Services worker to Powell's home for a supervised visit when the police say the dad deliberately blew up the house. A judge last week denied a request by Powell to regain custody of his sons who have been living with the parents of his missing wife Susan.

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Post by Praying For Faith Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:18 am

All of the information coming out now just makes me angrier. angry He planned everything out. Getting rid of things, removing money from the bank. How could he take a hatchet and kill his two darling little boys. One sick sick man.

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Post by Wrapitup Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:20 am

PUYALLUP, Washington (Isabelle Zehnder reporting) -- New information that's slowly being released in the disappearance of Susan Cox Powell is shedding light on what many have long believed - that agencies were failing her sons by allowing them to remain in the care and custody of their father, Josh Powell, for nearly two years after she vanished.

Some say it is becoming clear that outrageous blunders by a number of agencies in Utah and Washington may have led to the deaths of Susan's young sons, Charlie, 7, and Braden, 5. They were brutally murdered by their father last Sunday in what police call a double-murder-suicide.

An anonymous source said Friday,
"Everyone has screwed this up from the beginning. These children were failed every step of the way right to the end with the blundered 911 call."

"The victim mentality that Alina [Josh Powell's sister] has - she gives the impression Josh just snapped and had a brief moment of insanity. That's not true," the anonymous source said. "He premeditated this, planned it out very carefully, and he succeeded. Josh did not snap - he miticulously planned this for days. He gave away all of the toys, got money out of the bank - he didn't just snap. I believe Alina has been a victim of Steve and her brothers. Someone needs to try to help her."

Many question why a man retained custody of his two young sons after a police department had not only named him a person of interest in his wife's disappearance, but had found images on his computer that depicted "incestuous" sex between parent and child back in 2009?

What other critical information did the police have that should have been shared with those who tried to protect the children in Washington State? Did police read Josh's mother, Terrica Powell's affidavit filed with Spokane County Superior Court on November 6, 1992:

"There have been times when I have been afraid of Steve and/or the boys because of their extremely hateful behavior. They group together and stir each other up to almost a fever pitch at times.

"Their vehemence has often flashed in their eyes and body language, making me feel threatened.

"John and Josh, our older sons, have pushed and hit me before. I can't say that this behavior is regular, but it has shown that they are capable of such a thing.

"One time, a couple of years ago, I felt extreme fear when Josh made a veiled threat at me with a butcher knife in his hand. His demeanor was menacing for a moment as he said, 'Don't push it, mom'. This was the result of me trying to get Josh to do the dishes.

"I was terrified and left the room to go downstairs ..."

Terrica also talked about an incident when Steve allowed her father to live in their home for several months, and suddenly decided to kick him out.

She said she called police and that:

"One of the officers was poised intently, watching Steve with wide eyes, as if he thought Steve could become violent at any moment. This officer did not take his eyes off Steve. Steve's eyes looked wild and his demeanor was almost as if he were under the influence of drugs or something. Yet, I don't think that he was."

In another declaration of the same date Terrica wrote:

"I have spent my life caring for them and loving them [John and Josh.] To see them becoming so hardened towards others and scornful of law and order is very frightening to me. I feel that they are being victimized by Steve's distorted teachings [against the Mormon religion.]

"I am hoping that they will be able to receive the kind of help they need in time to prevent them from destroying their lives, or others' lives around them."

Terrica talked about Steve's lack of respect for the law and said:

"With the kind of disrespect the kids have learned to have regarding laws, I worry about what they will do. It seems there is a sickness pervading my family and I have been powerless to stop it."
She wrote that she knew Steve was persuavive "in a most harmful, deliberate way."

"I really feel that Steve has become emotionally unstable and somehow distorted in his thinking."

Terrica was fighting for custody of her two younger children, Alina and Michael. She wrote:

"I want to prevent Michael and Alina from falling into the same kinds of patterns. I am requesting that our younger two children be placed in my care and not under the constant influence of both Steve and the older boys. I love my olders sons dearly but I also know that they are acting in a manner which will damage their little brother and sister."

West Valley City Police in Utah quickly named Josh Powell a person of interest in Susan's disappearance. For many months WVCPD have led the children's maternal grandparents to believe they were close to arresting Josh on circumstantial evidence since they had not been able to find Susan's body. They recently said they might have had enough evidence to arrest him by next summer.

Those close to the case have long beleived the Coxes were being strung along by WVCPD. In defense of WVCPD, building a case based solely on circumstancial evidence is difficult and time-consuming, and they have only one shot at it. They have to get it right the first time.

For nearly two years Susan's friends, family, and others worried sick about her two young sons, Charlie and Braden, who were killed last week by their father. The question is: Was there more WVCPD and Washington State officials could have done to protect Susan's children who many feared were in danger?

Josh packed up and moved with his boys to his father's Puyallup home weeks after Susan disappeared, a move her friends and family have long said she would not have wanted. She did not trust her father-in-law, Steve Powell, and told her close friends that he had made sexual advances towards her. Josh, they say, was aware of this and still chose to move into his father's home.

Steve was arrested last September on 14 counts of voyeurism and one count of child porn. Josh's children were removed from the home and placed in state custody. Their maternal grandparents, Chuck and Judy Cox, filed for custody and were granted temporary custody of the children.

Now it is learned that police had strong evidence that Josh was also involved in deviant sexual behaviors like his father, and yet they held onto that evidence while they knew people had serious concerns for the children's safety. They finally released the information after the State of Washington requested it from them on Feb. 1.

It was the images found on Josh's computer that prompted a judge to order him to undergo a psychosexual evaluation just days before he killed himself and his children.

Washington's Department of Social and Health Services Public Affairs Senior Director Thomas Shapley said that the material prompted the court to stop a process that likely would have returned Charlie and Braden to their father's custody.

Shapley said the material found on the computer was so disturbing that it prompted the state psychologist consulting in the custody case to change his opinion and recommend that the court prevent the return of the children, MSNBC reports.

Attorney for Chuck and Judy Cox, Steve Downing, told the AP that he wasn't invited to see the materials before the custody hearing last week. He said he might have asked the court to change the terms of Powell's supervised visitation with the boys had he seen the images.


Susan’s disappearance

Susan is the 28-year-old West Valley City, Utah mom who went missing in December 2009. Her husband, Josh Powell, was the last person to see her and was the only known person of interest in Susan's disappearance before his death Sunday. He alleged that he took their two young sons on an impromptu camping trip in Utah’s remote West Desert around midnight and that when he returned the following afternoon, Susan was gone. Temperatures were sub-freezing and he claimed he and the boys slept in the family minivan.

Days later Josh rented a car. His sister, Jennifer Graves, told Examiner.com he was gone for about 24 hours and gave no explanation of his whereabouts to police. Within weeks he packed up his children and moved to his father, Steve Powell’s Puyallup, Washington home – a move Susan’s friends and family have long said she would not have wanted for her children. She had moved from Washington to Utah five years before she vanished to get away from her father-in-law.

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Steve was arrested last fall on 14 charges of voyeurism and child porn. Police say they removed a “trailer full” of evidence from his home including computers that contained thousands of images of young women and girls in various stages of undress, including naked video and photos of girls bathing and using the toilet. Some photos were of Susan who police say clearly did not know she was being photographed.

Court documents show police also found photos of Steve Powell. Those photos, they said, were sexual in nature and included images of him naked, images of his genitals, and images of him masturbating.

Steve remains in jail on $200,000 bail and awaits his trial. Upon learning of his son’s suicide and the murder of his grandchildren Steve allegedly yelled at police, refused to speak with media, and was put on suicide watch.

Days after Josh killed himself and his two children the West Valley Police Department’s Chief of Police said in an interview that Josh’s father, Steve Powell, has now been named a person of interest in Susan’s disappearance.

He clarified his statement by saying police want to talk to Steve, and when police want to talk to a person they become a “person of interest.”

Police are still asking that anyone with information about Susan’s disappearance to call West Valley City Police at 801-840-4000.

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Josh Powell's Computer Had Incest Images, Police

Caseworker: Josh Powell Told Kids He Had Surprise
By COLLEEN CURRY and CHRIS CUOMO (@ChrisCuomo)

Feb. 10, 2012
Josh Powell's computer had images of animated incestuous sex on it, authorities have revealed.

The images were realistic computer-generated depictions of parent-child sex, Detective Ed Troyer of the Pierce County Sheriff's Department told the Associated Press.

The computer was taken by police following the 2009 disappearance of Powell's wife, Susan Cox, but the images were brought up for the first time publicly in a court custody hearing last week.

The court ruled that because of images that were "specifically related to the children's welfare" on his computer, Powell would have to undergo an extensive psychosexual evaluation, polygraph test, and counseling before he could regain custody of the boys. The court would not disclose what the images depicted.

Following the custody hearing, Powell told ABC News that he had no idea what kind of images the West Valley City, Utah, police had found on his computer that would factor into a custody hearing. He said he could not remember having any inappropriate images on his computer, and said it was possible someone had emailed the images to him.

But four days later, Powell killed his children -- Charles, 7, and Braden, 5 -- attacking them with a hatchet and then blowing up his house with himself and his sons inside.

Steve Downing, the attorney representing Cox's parents, Chuck and Judy Cox, said if he had known the nature of the images that were found on Powell's computer, he would have asked the court to change the terms of custody.

Powell originally lost custody when his father, Steve Powell, with whom Powell and his sons lived, was arrested on child pornography and voyeurism charges in September.

He had moved in with his father after his wife Susan Cox disappeared. Powell was the lone "person of interest" in her disappearance.

The long drama surrounding Powell came to an explosive end Sunday during a supervised visit at his home. Powell welcomed the children inside and locked out the social worker.

He could be heard telling son Charlie he had "a big surprise" for him. The social worker then heard Braden cry out. And minutes later the house exploded.

Powell sent emails and left voicemails for relatives and friends minutes before the explosion saying he could not live without his boys any longer and had to protect them.

New information emerged today on how the supervised visits had been switched from public places to Powell's home.

"We had been having supervised visits, and there were no concerns raised during those visits," Sharon Gilbert, an official at the Department of Social and Health Services, told ABC News' "20/20."

Because of Powell's notoriety in the case about his missing wife, officials decided to move the visits to his home.

"Josh Powell was recognizable, as were the children. And that could also be disruptive to visits that are occurring with other families," Gilbert said of the decision.

Both Gilbert and social worker Elizabeth Griffin-Hall said they did not see any warning signs that Powell would eventually lure the children into his home to kill them.

"How this happened is that Josh Powell was really, really evil, Griffin-Hall said. "I couldn't have stopped him."

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911 operator wishes he'd recognized Powell situation's urgency
The Pierce County 911 operator who handled a social worker’s call Sunday from Josh Powell’s house told “Dateline NBC” in an exclusive interview he wishes he’d “recognized the urgency of the situation” that day.

ADAM LYNN; STAFF WRITER
Published: 02/10/12 8:11 pm

The Pierce County 911 operator who handled a social worker’s call Sunday from Josh Powell’s house told “Dateline NBC” in an exclusive interview he wishes he’d “recognized the urgency of the situation” that day.

But the man, who’s name has not been released, said he didn’t think the outcome would have been different even if he had dispatched deputies “one minute” after taking Elizabeth Griffin-Hall’s call.

Sheriffs deputies wouldn’t immediately have kicked in the door to rescue Charlie and Braden Powell from their homicidal father, but most likely would have cordoned off the area and treated it as a hostage situation, the operator said.

“You don’t automatically default to the notion that the person you’re dealing with is a pyschopath,” said the man, dressed in a blue shirt and tie for his interview with reporter Keith Morrison. “We’re normal people. We don’t live in that mindset.”

The operator, who’s come under criticism for his handling of the call, said he’s second-guessed himself in the days since, especially in light of the outcome. Josh Powell attacked his sons with a hatchet before setting his house on fire with them inside. All three died.

“It was horrible. This has been a nightmare,” the operator said.

“Dateline NBC” released excerpts of the interview on its website in advance of Friday night’s broadcast.

The operator said his handling of the call was “clumsy and faltering.”

“It’s painful to listen to,” the man said. “Realizing what we all know now, I wish I’d recognized the urgency of the situation.”

The operator admitted he misinterpreted some of Griffin-Hall’s comments, including that she smelled gasoline after Powell locked her out of his house. Griffin-Hall dropped the boys off that morning for a supervised visit with Powell, but he locked her out of his house.

The operator said he thought Griffin-Hall was sitting in her car and might have smelled gas from the idling engine.

“I should have asked her more about that,” he said.

Pierce County’s Law Enforcement Support Agency, which runs the 911 dispatch center for the Sheriff’s Department, is investigating the man’s handling of the call.

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Powell's story: cruelty, abuse from an early age
A look at the divorce file of Josh Powell's parents shows extreme discord between the parents over everything from religion to pornography. And both parents had concerns about Josh.

The Salt Lake Tribune; and The Associated Press

Josh Powell killed his young sons in arson suicide.

Funeral for Powell boys
The funeral service for Charlie and Braden Powell is scheduled for 11 a.m. Saturday at Life Center Church, 1717 S. Union Ave., Tacoma. The public is welcome. Driving directions: seati.ms/yZoCbx.

Long before Josh Powell killed himself and his sons, the pages of his parents' divorce file portrayed him as a seriously troubled teen who attempted suicide, killed pet gerbils, once threatened his mother with a butcher knife and early on adopted his father's allegedly disparaging view of women.

As an adult, Powell appears to have repeated in his own marriage to Susan Cox Powell some of the same emotionally abusive behavior he witnessed growing up, according to a story in The Salt Lake Tribune.

With the Tribune's report and others Friday, the story of the Powell family continued to develop.

The dispatcher who Sunday took a much-criticized 911 call from a caseworker trying to alert authorities to danger at Josh Powell's house before he killed himself and his sons, Charlie, 7, and Braden, 5, told "Dateline NBC" that the case has been "a nightmare."

David Lovrak said in an interview that aired Friday night that he regretted how the call went down and that he didn't realize who the caseworker was talking about when she mentioned Powell by name.

Powell was a person of interest in Susan's 2009 Utah disappearance, and he had lost custody of his two sons.

And in Pierce County, police who searched a storage unit rented by Josh Powell found a stained comforter that tested positive for blood in initial exams, according to documents filed in court Friday.

Attempt at healing

In the years following his parents' 1994 divorce, Josh repaired a frayed relationship with his mother, The Salt Lake Tribune reported. Last year, she defended him as a loving, caring father as he sought to regain custody of his sons from the state.

Court files show the divorce of Steve and Terrica Powell involved not only serious conflicts over parenting and religion, but allegations of mental unfitness, pornography, polygamy and even witchcraft, The Tribune reported.

A tug of war ensued over the children, who at the time ranged in age from 18 to 7. Josh, the second-oldest child, was 16.

In 1992 court filings, Steve claimed his wife, who studied herbs and natural healing, had mixed a New Age mysticism with Mormon beliefs in a way that amounted to practicing "witch craft and devil worship."

Terrica responded that Steve's interest in pornography, which he shared with their sons, had corrupted him, the newspaper said, quoting court files.

Steve Powell was arrested last September on charges of voyeurism and child pornography based on images police found during a search of his Puyallup home, a home which he then shared with Josh and his grandsons. That's when the state took custody of the boys and placed them with their maternal grandparents, Chuck and Judy Cox.

In the divorce case, Terrica told the court her husband's parenting was offensive.

He subjected Josh in particular to overly harsh discipline, she said.

"For years, he pointedly attacked Josh very frequently, nearly every day for a time," she wrote.

Steve acknowledged Josh was a challenge.

"At times I have no idea how to handle Josh," he wrote. "He is now a little taller than I, and may, with his regular weightlifting, be a little stronger and bulkier than I. I cannot spank him. Spanking didn't even help when he was younger."

When he was 13 or 14, Josh tried to commit suicide by hanging himself, the newspaper said.

And once, when Terrica had tried to get Josh to do his dishes, he turned to her, a butcher knife in his hand, and in a menacing way told her, "Don't push it, Mom."

A 911 "nightmare"

On Sunday, when Josh Powell grabbed his sons, locked the door and proceeded to kill himself and the boys by setting his rented house afire, the caseworker who was supposed to supervise the visit, Elizabeth Griffin-Hall, called 911. The dispatcher, Lovrak, asks her seemingly unrelated questions and tells her deputies have to respond to "life threatening" situations first.

"Well, it was horrible. And this has been a nightmare," Lovrak told "Dateline." "And you see, part of the problem is that, like most people, I think — I was aware of Josh Powell's story," he said. "But I didn't associate his name with the story."

The dispatcher said that re-listening to the call is painful.

"It was a horrible situation that I didn't recognize," he said.

Possible bloodstain

In Pierce County, detectives reported finding a gray-blue comforter with a bloodstain in Josh Powell's storage locker.

Pierce County Prosecutor Mark Lindquist said presumptive tests are conducted with a field kit and that a determination of blood won't be confirmed until the item is examined in the lab. "Field tests are not infallible," he said.

The comforter was the only item police kept.

Investigators also found toys and kids' clothes in garbage bags, as well as framed pictures. Those items were given to Susan Powell's family.

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Post by Wrapitup Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:46 am

So, the judge was aware of the explicit images on JP's computer before she handed down the sentence that the children would remain w/the Cox's but she Still Allowed the boys to Visit their PERV, MURDERING "father" in his home with an elderly, Loving supervisor who did all she could and was stymied and ridiculed (IMHO) by a 911 Operator who has readily Admitted he simply "didn't listen to her or get it". IF this JUDGE (who better not be able to sleep one wink!) had simply stated that:
a) Until the sexual evaluation is completed, he has NO visitation rights.....OR
b) He will have to see them in a public setting; Mc'Donald's, a park, at the Child Protective Services, the children would be alive today!

Anger and Infuriation is a Huge understatement!!
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Post by NiteSpinR Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:57 am

So the 911 operator is mentally making notes on more questions he could have ask Elizabeth instead of the insignificant ones he was bombarding her with. It doesn't matter to me that he didn't recognize Josh's name. The caller obviously had serious concerns about the safety of those two children and he was just killing time with her on the line. I'm interested to know how many other 911 calls were received before, during and after (not including the ones we already know about concerning Josh and the house fire.)

This is what I came away with from the two shows that I bounced back and forth between this evening.
1) Josh took 7grand out of an account and transferred thousands more into his sister's account while he was at the bank.
*Where did all this money come from? and What did he do with the 7 thousand in cash?

2) Was LE trailing him? If not how did they know he took the kid's toys to that particular drop sight?

3) It's been reported that he went to the storage facility and took several items of Susan's out and then dumped them at a landfill. How did LE know they were Susan's things? (unless they recovered them.)

4) Why would Josh take some things out of storage to throw away, but leave a blood stained comforter? (This makes no sense to me.)

5) Did he rent that wood framed house a few miles away from his father's house because he knew in advance he was going to burn it down?
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Post by Wrapitup Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:04 am

All Great Questions! I think you should email them to Troyer! Seriously!!!
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I think any e-mail sent to him right now would just get lost in the crowd of thousands he's bound to be receiving!
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Post by Wrapitup Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:25 am

Who cares? He may just pick up on it..or send it to LE or the damned FBI!! Course, no matter what the answers to your questions are, it won't bring the boys back.

I hope they eventually find Susan's remains. The Cox's have been through pure hell..and that is putting it mildly. At the VERY least, it would help them so much if they could lay their beautiful daughter to rest.
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Post by Slys Hunny Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:42 am

The way I understood it from some article I read the Judge didnt know she had clearance to look at the images until days after the explosion.Ill look for it and post it.

The thing that makes me the maddest is why with all this time since Susan went missing have they not seached the storage unit before? Why the big hurry now the worst has happened.
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Post by Slys Hunny Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:06 am

OK PROVED MYSELF WRONG it wasnt the Judge but Cox attorney Steve Downing.

On Jan. 30, the sheriff's office arranged a viewing of the materials, said Sherry Hill, a spokeswoman for the Department of Social and Health Services.
Among the attendees were Long and a Child Protective Services social worker. Downing said he wasn't notified of the viewing. Long confirmed Downing had been listed as one of those allowed to see the images. However, Downing was not technically a party to the Feb. 1 hearing, which was between Powell and the state, so there was no rush to make sure Downing saw the materials beforehand

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NiteSpinR wrote:So the 911 operator is mentally making notes on more questions he could have ask Elizabeth instead of the insignificant ones he was bombarding her with. It doesn't matter to me that he didn't recognize Josh's name. The caller obviously had serious concerns about the safety of those two children and he was just killing time with her on the line. I'm interested to know how many other 911 calls were received before, during and after (not including the ones we already know about concerning Josh and the house fire.)

This is what I came away with from the two shows that I bounced back and forth between this evening.
1) Josh took 7grand out of an account and transferred thousands more into his sister's account while he was at the bank.
*Where did all this money come from? and What did he do with the 7 thousand in cash? Probably money saved from making Susan grow her families food rather than buy it at the grocery store? Or maybe even he pawned Susan's diamond rings and jewelry.

2) Was LE trailing him? If not how did they know he took the kid's toys to that particular drop sight? I say no they would not trailing him or the storage unit would have been searched before the explosion.


3) It's been reported that he went to the storage facility and took several items of Susan's out and then dumped them at a landfill. How did LE know they were Susan's things? (unless they recovered them.) Exactly!

4) Why would Josh take some things out of storage to throw away, but leave a blood stained comforter? (This makes no sense to me.) He had a lot on his crazy mind and he just forgot it was there? Or it is not blood or DNA evidence from Susan is why they found it.

5) Did he rent that wood framed house a few miles away from his father's house because he knew in advance he was going to burn it down?
Probably. He needed to show the court he had the means to move the children out of Steven's home to get the kids back. I think Josh was able to move a lot of stuff over to this rental property to go up in smoke with the house.
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Post by Slys Hunny Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:31 pm

I agree I wish they would have cared enough before the explosion to check these things out. I just dont get it. You would think it would be more important to do all this before he hurt someone else. They have Steven in jail so why the rush to put it all together now?
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Post by HippyChick2 Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:21 pm

Just cannot imagine him telling the kids he had a 'surprise' for them just before he took a hatchet to them. He was some kind of a monster, eh?
IMO NO parent who is a POI or suspect in a murder of ANYONE (not just the spouse) should be allowed to have custody or contact w/ their child(ren). I mean, WTF??? You don't let such people care for children!!
Whats wrong w/ our court system? It should ALL be about the safety of the kids. No visitation, period.
And I agree that the visitation at the VERY LEAST should have been in a controlled setting, like a social services office or one of those neutral places with a SW to supervise (we have them in our county).

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Post by Praying For Faith Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:31 pm

agreed on everything you just said Hippy. We watched the 20/20 segment and we about flipped out when they said that he told his boys that he had a surprise for them and then took a hatchet to them. Our country, states, cities are not protecting and keeping these children safe. It is just BS and things need to be changed now. MOO

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NiteSpinR wrote:So the 911 operator is mentally making notes on more questions he could have ask Elizabeth instead of the insignificant ones he was bombarding her with. It doesn't matter to me that he didn't recognize Josh's name. The caller obviously had serious concerns about the safety of those two children and he was just killing time with her on the line. I'm interested to know how many other 911 calls were received before, during and after (not including the ones we already know about concerning Josh and the house fire.)

This is what I came away with from the two shows that I bounced back and forth between this evening.
1) Josh took 7grand out of an account and transferred thousands more into his sister's account while he was at the bank.
*Where did all this money come from? and What did he do with the 7 thousand in cash?

2) Was LE trailing him? If not how did they know he took the kid's toys to that particular drop sight?

3) It's been reported that he went to the storage facility and took several items of Susan's out and then dumped them at a landfill. How did LE know they were Susan's things? (unless they recovered them.)

4) Why would Josh take some things out of storage to throw away, but leave a blood stained comforter? (This makes no sense to me.)

5) Did he rent that wood framed house a few miles away from his father's house because he knew in advance he was going to burn it down?

I so agree w/ you LM, especially #5. I have wondered about the missing comforter since the beginning. I am still wondering what the wet spot on their carpeting that Josh had a fan on to dry was all about. Did LE ever say? If so, I missed it.

It makes me sick that Josh had all that money yet he had made Susan live like a pauper, even tho she was the one bringing home the bacon. What a cruel and controlling creep he was. He could have redeemed himself a bit if he had just blew himself up and left the boys with the Cox's. I know I would have been ok with that.... over reaction
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Search Resumes at Recycling Center in Powell Case

PUYALLUP, Wash. February 13, 2012 (AP)

Volunteers sifted through tons of paper at a recycling center Sunday, hoping to find items that Josh Powell may have dumped before killing himself and his two sons in a house fire last week.

The search, involving about 20 people from Pierce County Search and Rescue, was expected to last all day.

"What happened last weekend really affected me. I could see smoke from the home from here," the recycling center's manager, Don Taylor, told KOMO News ( [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] ). "It would make me feel good if they found something here that could help answer questions about this whole terrible thing."

Powell was the husband of missing Utah woman Susan Powell. He attacked his 5- and 7-year-old sons with a hatchet last Sunday, when a social worker brought the boys to his home for what was a supervised visit, and then ignited the house in a gas-fueled inferno.

Some investigators have called the act an admission of guilt in his wife's death, but they're still looking for evidence on that front. They also located a storage locker where Powell had stashed a comforter that tested positive for the presence of blood in an initial test. Further lab tests are pending.

Authorities received a tip that Josh Powell may have dumped some papers at the LRI recycling center in the days just before the deaths.

The volunteers arrived Sunday morning and began searching through more than 20,000 pounds of recycled paper, junk mail and newspapers.

A Pierce County sheriff's officer oversaw the effort.

Susan Powell disappeared Dec. 6, 2009, while the Powells were still living in West Valley City, Utah.

Josh Powell always claimed that on the night his wife disappeared he had taken his young sons on a midnight camping trip in subfreezing temperatures in the Utah desert, and that he knew nothing of her whereabouts.

Less than a month after the disappearance, Powell moved the boys to his father's home in Puyallup, south of Seattle.

Powell lost custody of his sons to his wife's parents late last year, after police said they had found child pornography on his father's computer. He later moved to the home outside Puyallup where he killed his sons Feb. 5.

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Post by lisette Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:52 am

Josh Powell papers found at Washington recycling site
Published February 14, 2012

GRAHAM, Wash. – A search in Washington of a recycling center near Graham recovered some papers, books and a map of Utah belonging to Josh Powell and his missing wife.
Volunteers combed through more than 10 tons of paper over the weekend looking for materials Powell dropped off the day before he killed himself and his two young sons in an explosive fire.
Searchers found what the Pierce County sheriff's office called a "testament" with Powell's name on it, some paperback books with his wife's name on them and the Utah map.
A Pierce County sheriff's sergeant told KIRO-FM detectives are analyzing the materials for any value as evidence.
Investigators are still looking for the body of Susan Powell, who disappeared in 2009 in Utah.

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Post by raine1953 Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:14 pm

I just caught up with this thread I think. I cannot believe how the entire system from the very beginning failed Susan and the boys. It seems like they were cursed (I know they weren't) at every single corner, twist and turn to get no help from LE or the court. In fact it seems like the two youngest Powell children received zero help from the system when their Mother tried to get custody of them. There sure are enough examples in her statements about Steve and Josh that I don't get why Utah LE didn't take those boys away from Josh immediately! Let Josh prove himself innocent before he ever had those children from the get go.
I've not seem any of the Dr Phil, 20/20's since I'm out of town but I do think they would make me madder. I don't know how the Cox's were ever able to deal.
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I agree with every word you said, Raine!!
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Post by Wrapitup Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:12 am

Powell wasn’t really living in home he burned down, police say

BY NATE CARLISLE
The Salt Lake Tribune
First published 6 hours ago
Updated 36 minutes ago

Detectives don’t believe Josh Powell was living in the home he destroyed, they said while disclosing other details of how they believe Powell murdered his sons.

Pierce County Sheriff’s Detective Ed Troyer on Tuesday said it appears Powell was actually residing at the home of his father, Steve Powell, in Puyallup, Wash. The rented home in Graham, Wash., that Powell burned down with himself and his sons inside he only used during the supervised visits with Charlie 7, and Braden, 5.

"There was hardly anything there," Troyer said. "Just some pictures on the wall. The neighbors had not seen him in three months."

Troyer also clarified that a testament recovered at a recycling facility with Powell’s name on it appeared to be a standard LDS Church text. A map of Utah found with the testament had no markings, Troyer said.

Detectives also believe the boys were unconscious when Powell ignited gasoline in the home, Troyer said. Soot was found in the boys’ windpipes, indicating they were still breathing when the blaze began. Troyer said police believe Powell used a hatchet on the children and then poured the gasoline that he ignited, prompting an explosion.

Powell was the only person of interest in the 2009 disappearance of his wife, Susan Cox Powell. She was last seen at the couple’s then-home in West Valley City, Utah.

Last year, Powell lost custody of Charlie and Braden after police arrested Steve Powell on suspicion of photographing neighborhood children through their windows while they were in various states of undress.

Powell withdrew $6,500 and left instructions for his sister to pay bills and give the rest to his attorney. He also told her how to turn off the utilities at the rental house, Troyer confirmed Tuesday. At a family storage unit, police found gas cans and large amounts of food. Josh and Steve Powell previously attended the Mormon church, whose followers are taught to store a large supply of food.

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Cops: Josh Powell murder-suicide house was sham set up for social worker visits

By msnbc.com staff and news services

The house Josh Powell blew up earlier this month – a cozy residential house near Puyallup, Wash. – was a front, the Tacoma News-Tribune reported.

"He set it up like a rental place, with pictures of the family," Sgt. Denny Wood of the Pierce County Sheriff’s Department said, according to the News-Tribune. "I think it was staged so when CPS (Child Protective Services) came, it would look like a loving family."

Police say that Powell rented it in 2011 but neighbors said they never saw anyone there. When Powell learned he could not keep his children, he rigged the house, turning it into a bomb, authorities have said. On Feb. 5, when his sons, Charlie, 7, and Braden, 5, came to visit, he slammed the door in a social worker’s face, slashed the boys with a hatchet and lit a match to a can of gasoline.

The house exploded within moments, killing all three. The social worker was uninjured.

Powell had been in the media spotlight because he was the only person of interest in his wife’s disappearance. In December 2009, Susan Powell, 28, went missing in Utah, where the family lived. At the time, Powell told police that she had run away from their family during a midnight camping trip.

On Monday, Wood detailed what police believe occurred on that fateful Sunday: "The little boys come in. He takes them to the back and hits them with the hatchet. Josh Powell scatters gas. He walks around the house, tossing it on the walls and floor. He puts the five-gallon gas can by the front door. He sits with the other can between his knees."

Josh Powell took the lives of his two sons in a house fire. Powell was a 'person of interest' in his wife's 2009 disappearance. NBC's Miguel Almaguer reports.
Since the house explosion, police have found new evidence relating to Susan Powell’s disappearance. According to The Associated Press, authorities found a blood-stained comforter in a storage unit Josh Powell had rented. The West Valley City police in Utah have also been fielding new tips.

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Detectives believe that when Powell did not regain custody of the boys at a court hearing Feb. 1, he put a plan to kill them into motion. He had $6,500, and left instructions for his sister to pay bills with it and give the rest to his lawyer. He also told her how to turn off the utilities at the house he would detonate.

“That shows you his mind-set,” Wood said.

After the explosion, detectives searched a Powell family storage unit. In it, they found water and sealed buckets of dried foods, including beans.

“Tons of food,” Sanders said.

“Also gas cans,” Wood said. “We believe he got the gas from the storage shed.”

The two cans found at the house were like the cans in the shed, he said, and there is evidence Powell had researched the explosive properties of gasoline.

“One gallon of gas vaporized is the equivalent of three sticks of dynamite,” Wood said.



Various bloggers’ comments concerning the Powell family murder/suicide:

“The judge and the Child Protective Services have the blood of these children on their hands too.”

“His wife caught him doing something perverted with those kids (they have found pornographic evidence on his computer) and he killed her to shut her up. Case closed.”

“His behavior via television and sick alibis about his wife’s disappearance were suspect to anyone since the beginning of this story.”

“I’ve seen children taken away from their parents for a lot less than say, child pornography and suspected murder. The day his wife disappeared in the middle of the night while he supposedly took his toddler and small child camping in a blizzard is the day authorities should have stepped in and taken those children away.”

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A hell of a LOT smarter than peeps like NG who don't know all the facts. We READ, we DISCUSS, we RESEARCH!
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Post by Wrapitup Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:12 pm

Police buy cemetery plots to block Josh Powell from being buried next to his boys

A sheriff and his sergeant in Washington state have bought burial plots next to Josh Powell's boys in order to block family members from burying him next to them, according to a media report Wednesday.

"The bottom line is, Josh Powell will not be near those two boys," Pierce County Sheriff's Sgt. Ed Troyer said in an interview with a Seattle-area radio program called the Ron and Don Show.

Josh Powell's surviving relatives wanted him to buried at the same cemetery as the two sons he killed, the city manager in Puyallup said earlier Wednesday.

But that does not look like it is going to happen.

Troyer and Sheriff Paul Pastor used their personal money and funds from Crimestoppers Tacoma-Pierce County to buy plots that are on either side of the boys, according to a report on the radio station's website that was confirmed by Troyer on Twitter:

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Crimestoppers is soliciting money on its website for the purchase of the plots.

"It's disgusting that a murder suspect would be buried next to his victims," Pastor said in a statement posted on Twitter.

Powell's relatives visited the public Woodbine Cemetery and selected a plot about 25 feet from the boys, City Manager Ralph Dannenberg told The Associated Press earlier Wednesday. They haven't paid for it yet, and any sale is being put on hold because the parents of Powell's missing wife have promised legal action.

"We don't have any rules or procedures regarding refusing plots to anyone," Dannenberg said. "We're going to wait to see what the outcome is in court."

Powell was a suspect in Susan Powell's 2009 disappearance from their home in West Valley City, Utah. He later moved with his sons to near Tacoma, Wash., to be close to his parents. On Feb. 5, he attacked his sons with a hatchet and set his rental house on fire, killing himself and his sons, Charlie, 7, and Braden, 5.
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The boys were laid to rest at Woodbine on Saturday. Attorney Anne Bremner, who represents Susan Powell's parents, Charles and Judy Cox, says she would seek a temporary restraining order to block Josh Powell from being buried there.

"For him to be buried near those kids is just unthinkable," Bremner said. "For God's sake, for them to lose Susan first, and then the boys, and now this? Just give these people a break."

Powell's sister Alina did not return an email from the AP seeking comment.

Meanwhile, Powell's father, Steve Powell, who is awaiting trial in Pierce County, Wash., on voyeurism and child pornography charges, filed a motion with the court saying he does not wish to speak to the FBI or other law enforcement about his son’s case or the disappearance of his daughter-in-law.

Mark T. Quigley, Steve Powell’s attorney, told the Salt Lake City Tribune that the notice, filed Tuesday, was common in criminal trials to protect rights against self-incrimination. It was prompted by a visit last week in which Steve Powell reportedly rebuffed FBI agents.

"It’s simply a statement to law enforcement that says my client doesn’t want to talk," Quigley told the paper. "That’s [Steve Powell’s] right. I don’t think belligerent has anything to do with it."

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Josh Powell won't be buried in same cemetery as sons

The man who killed his two sons in an explosive house fire in Pierce County will not be buried in the same cemetery as the children, his family said Thursday.

GENE JOHNSON; THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

SEATTLE — The man who killed his two sons in an explosive house fire in Pierce County will not be buried in the same cemetery as the children, his family said Thursday.

Josh Powell's mother, Terri Powell, issued a written statement confirming that the family had given up a plot tentatively reserved at Woodbine Cemetery overlooking the boys' grave.

"We have tried so hard to be loving and considerate and respectful in making Josh's burial arrangements," she said. "We love our little Charlie and Braden and want their resting place to be a place of peace and comfort."

Josh Powell, the husband of missing Utah woman Susan Powell, killed his 5- and 7-year-old sons and himself in a gas-fueled blaze Feb. 5 at a home he was renting in Graham.

More than 1,000 mourners attended the boys' funeral Saturday. They were later buried in a single casket at Woodbine, a municipal cemetery in Puyallup.

Terri Powell, wracked by grief, realized early this week that no one else was planning for what to do with Josh Powell's remains, said her son-in-law, Kirk Graves. She visited a funeral home and a few cemeteries, he said, and she "cluelessly" picked a gravesite just up the hill from where the boys are buried.

The decision prompted a public firestorm. The parents of Susan Powell threatened legal action to keep Josh Powell from being buried so close, and the anti-crime organization Crime Stoppers of Tacoma-Pierce County purchased the plots on either side of the boys to ensure that he didn't wind up next to them. Crime Stoppers raised about $20,000 in donations for the effort in less than a day.

"We felt very strongly that it wasn't appropriate to put him anywhere near the boys, and we did our best over the last 48 hours to convince her to do something different," Graves said. "It wasn't that hard to convince her — she just got started off on the wrong path."

Attorney Steve Downing, who represents Susan Powell's parents, Charles and Judy Cox, said they were immensely relieved.

Josh Powell was a suspect in Susan Powell's 2009 disappearance from their home in West Valley City, Utah. He had always claimed that he didn't know what happened to his wife. He took the boys — then 2 and 4 — on a midnight camping trip in freezing weather in the Utah desert, he said, and when he returned home the next day authorities were at the house looking for her.

Weeks later, he moved the boys to his father's home in Puyallup. After Steve Powell's arrest on voyeurism and child pornography charges last fall, the boys were removed from the house and turned over to the Coxes.

A social worker brought them to Josh Powell's rental home for what was supposed to be a court-sanctioned supervised visit. Josh Powell let the boys inside, locked the social worker out, hit them with a hatchet and set fire to gasoline, authorities said.

A judge had recently ordered that Josh Powell undergo a psycho-sexual evaluation if he hoped to regain custody, and in a last-minute message to his sister he said he couldn't live without his boys.

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Post by Wrapitup Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:22 pm

OLYMPIA, Wash.—Josh Powell had hundreds of images of disturbing cartoon sex and graphic depictions of incest on his home computer, something Utah authorities investigating his wife's disappearance kept private for about two years, according to files released Friday.

A Washington state psychologist who had previously said Powell's strong parenting skills should allow him to continue supervised visits altered her assessment after reviewing the images, calling them a "great concern" and suggesting a more intense evaluation of the father. That conclusion came just six days before he killed himself and two sons in an explosive house fire two weeks ago.

Many of the approximately 400 images described in the state social services included sexual depictions of popular cartoons, including child-focused characters such as Rugrats, Dennis the Menace and SpongeBob SquarePants. Another 15 images showed 3-D depictions of sex involving parents and their children.

Powell had initially told the psychologist that he visited only pornography sites featuring adults.

"Given the gaps of information about Mr. Powell there seems reason to conclude he may not presently be a stable and appropriate resource for his children," wrote Dr. James Manley in a follow-up report.

Washington officials overseeing the care of Powell's children first got word of the graphic content in November, when a Utah investigator wrote in an email that they were looking to disclose to social workers about 5-6 images recovered in 2009 shortly after Susan Powell's disappearance.

But two months later, social worker Forest Jacobson wrote that the images weren't received until mid-January and told the psychologist "it is now clear there are many more images than initially indicated."

A spokesman for the West Valley City police in Utah did not return a call seeking comment Friday.

In other documents released under Washington public records laws, social workers detailed how they were concerned that Josh Powell would speak disparagingly of his in-laws, Chuck and Judy Cox, in front of his children.

The documents also state that Charlie Powell was beginning to remember about his mother, and that he said "he remembers she left because grandpa was mean to her." Caseworkers believed that Charlie was repeating what his father had been saying.

In interviews with mental health professionals, Powell said he feared a "militant faction" of the Mormon church might kidnap his two sons. Braden and Charlie were overheard saying that "Mormons" were "trying to steal" them and "harm" them. DSHS notes that that given the children's ages, these opinions were probably not their own.

Charlie once told school personnel how to bury an animal so it wouldn't be discovered. Personnel only noted this because of their mother's disappearance.

Powell was a suspect in Susan Powell's 2009 disappearance from their home in West Valley City, Utah. He had always claimed that he didn't know what happened to his wife. He took the boys -- then 2 and 4 -- on a midnight camping trip in freezing weather in the Utah desert, he said, and when he returned home the next day authorities were at the house looking for her.

Weeks later, he moved the boys to the home of his father, Steve Powell, in Puyallup. After Steve Powell's arrest on voyeurism and child pornography charges last fall, the boys were removed from the house and turned over to Susan Powell's parents.

A social worker brought them to Josh Powell's rental home for what was supposed to be a court-sanctioned supervised visit. Josh Powell let the boys inside, locked the social worker out, hit them with a hatchet and set fire to gasoline, authorities said.

The files include detailed notes about the boys' supervised visits with their father.

The social worker wrote in notes from Jan. 29 -- the day of the last visit before Josh Powell killed his children -- that the boys made Shrinky Dink toys with him. When the visit was over, Josh Powell walked Charlie and Braden out to the car, buckled them into their booster seats, told them he loved them and said he would see them as soon as he could.

"Be happy and have a good time," he said.

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Woman says she spoke to Susan Powell's son Charlie on day she vanished

Graham, Wash. - A hotel worker is speaking out about the encounter she had with Josh Powell and his sons on the same day his wife, Susan Powell, was reported missing. The woman says Charlie Powell spoke to her, asking her a haunting question.

Robin Snyder, who works at the Comfort Inn in Sandy, Ut., said Wednesday on HLN's 'Prime News' that she contacted authorities about the interaction she had with one of Josh's children a few weeks after she heard about the case of the missing woman.

She told show host Vinnie Politan that she was overseeing the breakfast offered hotel guests and went to get a high chair for Braden Powell, who was just 2-years-old at the time.

Snyder said Charlie, then 4, looked at her and asked if she knew what happened to his mother. She told him “no” and then asked what happened. Snyder noted that Josh kept his face down as Charlie spoke.

Before she could get a response from the child, she was informed by another guest that more coffee was needed, thus, she left to assist the guest. When she returned, Josh and his sons were gone.

Just last week authorities announced that a blood-stained comforter was found in a storage unit rented by Josh. In addition, a volunteer search over the weekend of a recycling plant near Josh's home yielded books, a Utah map and other papers belonging to him.

Josh lost custody of his children in Sept. 2011 after his father, Steve Powell, whom he lived with at the time, was arrested on charges involving child pornography. Josh had subsequently rented a home of his own, but was denied custody of the boys on Feb. 1, 2012. He was ordered to undergo an “intensive psychosexual evaluation” due to “incestuous” images discovered on his computer.

On Feb. 5 a case worker brought Josh's sons -- Charlie, 7, and Braden, 5 -- to his home for a supervised visit. She claims that after they arrived he blocked the door and would not let her enter, after which an explosion took place destroying the home.

The medical examiner announced that the two children sustained chops to their necks with a hatchet and were killed by carbon monoxide poisoning before the home went up in flames.

Josh, who had been the only person of interest in his wife’s disappearance, alleged that the December 2009 night his wife vanished, he and his two young sons – then ages 2 and 4 – were on a camping trip in freezing cold temperatures in the remote Tooele County, Ut. desert area at around midnight. He claims they slept in a minivan and when they returned home the next day, Susan, 28, was gone.

He rented a car two days later and drove hundreds of miles in the vehicle – offering no viable explanation to police. Only a month later, he packed up his children and moved from his Utah home to the Puyallup, Washington area, moving in with his father.

Steve Powell pleaded guilty to 14 charges of voyeurism and one count of possession of child pornography and remains behind bars on $200,000 bail. Authorities allege he had been surreptitiously filming women – including Susan – and also claim he took video of two young neighbor girls as they used the toilet and bathed.

Steve is now a person of interest in Susan's case, according to multiple media reports.

Anyone with information regarding Susan Powell's whereabouts or her disappearance is urged to call the West Valley City Police Dept. at 801-840-4000.

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I posted it on the thread where he murdered his children, also. Just Unreal!!!!
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