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Post by Wrapitup on Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:24 am

Not as bad as the Casey soap opera but it's a close 2nd!!

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Post by HippyChick2 on Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:10 am

Totally agree w/ you Wrap about NG being a phony.
The other night she was going on and on about a missing child, then cut to pics of her freaking twins. SO NOT COOL!!! Doesn't she realize how inappropriate that is??
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Post by NiteSpinR on Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:24 pm

I saw that too.
She was talking about the case and then right before the commercial break her voice changed to the kinder, gentler nancy and she starts talking about her family scrapbook.
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Post by Wrapitup on Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:47 pm

The ONLY reason I watch it is when I know what she is going to cover. I always watched it when she was covering "tot mom" or HaLeigh Cummings. I do not just randomly think, "Oh, it's 7pm (CST), I've got to watch Nancy Grace!" Uggh...

I like her bff, Renee Rockwell and love it when Sue Moss is on. Also, when she has Marc Klass. Have you noticed that Janie Weintraub has not once been on her show? She would rip Nancy a new one. I don't particularly care for JW (who does go on JVM) but she sure is blunt. Also, Mark what's his name..the cutie patootie defense attorney, has Never been on her show. He is another one that pulls no punches and Nancy would Never get away with how she talks to some of those attorneys.


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Post by artgal16 on Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:41 am

I was at statement analysis a minute ago and there was something about Lisa Irwin's arm being in a sling in a photograph. Anyone know anything about this?
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Post by Wrapitup on Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:11 pm

No, but do you have a link??? TIA!

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Post by Wrapitup on Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:14 pm

Baby Lisa Irwin Lawyer May Be Found in Contempt of Court

By William Browning | Yahoo! Contributor Network – 2 hrs 29 mins ago

The latest twist in the baby Lisa Irwin case stems from an attorney for the mother of one of Jeremy Irwin's other children. WCTV reports Dorothy Savory might be found in contempt of court in Jackson County. Savory is the lawyer for Rasleen Raim who is currently battling Irwin for custody of their 8-year-old son.

Here's a look at the newest twist in the bizarre missing persons case of baby Lisa.

Custody Battle
The Kansas City Star reported Nov. 18 that Raim is seeking custody of Lisa's older half brother despite not seeing her son regularly since September 2005. Savory said Raim wanted her son back for "safety" reasons. Lawyers for Irwin called the case "unbelievable."

Because of the media circus surrounding the case, WPTV stated a gag order was likely on the case so lawyers couldn't talk to the media. Plus the case involves a minor child and should be separate from the search for baby Lisa.

Savory's Miscue
Savory's miscue in the legal system happened Dec. 14. In an unrelated case, Savory is representing robbery suspect Darrel White, Jr. When she pulled some visual trickery on the Jackson County Circuit Court. The Kansas City Star reported Savory asked the court to identify her client. Instead of having the defendant in the case sitting next to her, the lawyer had White's twin brother stand in for him.

ABC News states Savory almost got away with it. The arresting officer was outside the courtroom and recognized the real perpetrator. The audio recording of the proceedings had Judge Kenneth R. Garrett say he was "furious" with Savory. Prosecutor Jean Baker moved to have Savory barred from the case. Baker said she will also report the defense lawyer for possible disciplinary action.

Contempt Charges
The contempt charges, if the judge agrees, will have a separate hearing. Reporting an attorney to the Missouri Supreme Court for disciplinary action can result in many things for Savory's career if she is found guilty by the Office of Chief Disciplinary Counsel. She can have a written admonition on her permanent record, a simple reprimand or even have her license to practice law suspended or revoked.

Savory's work on the Irwin case may be in jeopardy if the Office of Chief Disciplinary Counsel feels her behavior in the other case went too far. Perhaps Irwin's lawyers can use that to their advantage as they try to maintain custody arrangements of Irwin's older child.
Savory received her undergraduate degree from Missouri State University in 2000 before earning her Juris Doctor from the University of Missouri at Kansas City in 2003. Her law firm has been in operation since 2008.

Lisa Irwin has been missing since Oct. 4. This latest twist in the case is one of several that have marked the mysterious disappearance for two and half months.

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Post by Wrapitup on Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:33 pm

Thanks, Art!! No, had not heard this!!!

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Post by HippyChick2 on Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:27 am

Looks like the poll shows most people think this is another lying situation.
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Post by raine1953 on Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:45 pm

wow, strange.
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Post by Slys Hunny on Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:39 am

when I click on the link it says page not found. Must have been taken down
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Post by artgal16 on Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:49 am

I also cannot find the link
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Still directs me to another place
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Post by proudjmmom on Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:39 am

I googled, and the problem with this link is there is a curse word in it. Where it says "louise-bateman-she-f**cked-her......" Just fill in the correct letters.

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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:11 pm

"louise-bateman-she-f**cked-her......"
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Post by Wrapitup on Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:13 pm

LOL, Linda Marie!! Looks like is WAS taken down. It was pretty racy but had some very detrimental alleged information re: Louise Bateman.

Probably should not have posted it..was way too early for me. duct and run

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Post by Wrapitup on Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:05 pm

Lisa Irwin Case Update: Police Share Current Status
December 30, 2011 12:05 PM EST

Lisa Irwin is still missing from the Kansas City area and there hasn't been much in the news regarding her disappearance. The baby has been missing for almost three months. Although volunteers have been searching for the missing baby, an eager news station checked in with the Kansas City police department to see if there were any new developments before entering 2012.

A police spokesperson shared that the original investigators who had been on the case since the first day are still the same detectives following up on leads that could potentially locate Lisa. Besides that, there is little else to report. It seems that investigators are still going through leads that could spark life into the case, but at this point, it is still classified as a missing/abducted child. Even though cadaver dogs had hit near the child's crib, the status of the case is not homicide.

Everyone is hoping that this child is found safe and sound. At this point in the investigation, the public believes that the parents had something to do with the missing Lisa Irwin, but psychics have counterclaimed that idea by suggesting that the child was taken by someone. One psychic believes that Lisa is in a well, while others believe that she is safe and sound somewhere.

Do you think the mystery of Lisa Irwin will be solved next year?

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:44 pm

Missing baby Lisa Irwin custody lawyer defends twin brother switcheroo in court case

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - The woman representing the mother of Baby Lisa Irwin’s half brother in a custody battle is defending a courtroom move last week where she brought a defendant’s twin brother to court instead of the actual suspect.

“Ms. Savory only desired to help circumvent a common practice of sending the wrong man to prison,” the attorney said in a statement she released to NBC Action News. “Her client is innocent of the charge of taking a purse.”

Prosecutors have asked the judge to remove Savory from the case and consider disciplinary action.

According to documents released by the Jackson County Prosecutor’s office, the attorney made a “mockery” of courtroom proceedings during the robbery trial last Wednesday .

According to the prosecution’s motion, the judge believed the twin brother was actually the defendant, Darrel W. White, Jr. and the victim identified the twin as the man who stole her purse.

The Jackson County Prosecutor’s Office said in court papers that the twin, Darion White had “nearly identical facial features” as the defendant, Darrel White, Jr. Savory disagrees and stated she was trying to prevent “a common practice of sending the wrong man to prison.”
“The current situation being faced by the parties in the case of State of Missouri v. Darrel White is the first time Ms. Dorothy L. Savory has experienced a court hearing such as this, in which the complaining witness, under oath, identifies a person who has a drastically different skin complexion, height, weight and hairstyle than the defendant,” Savory wrote in the statement.

She wrote that she considered the strategy “reasonable at the time” and she is prepared to accept “any consequences for her inactions and actions.”

Neither Savory nor the attorneys representing Jeremy Irwin have commented about the custody battle involving Baby Lisa’s half brother since a motion for a gag order earlier in December.

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Post by Wrapitup on Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:41 pm

Missing Baby Lisa Irwin: Police Have New Leads 3 Months After Disappearance

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January 4, 2012 10:12 AM EST

Baby Lisa Irwin has been missing for three months after mysteriously disappearing from her crib on Oct. 4, 2011. Her family's Kansas City attorney, John Picerno, said in a statement Tuesday that authorities have new information regarding missing baby Lisa Irwin.

Picerno told KCTV5 that investigators have several new leads, one of which is very promising. He continued to explain that both the FBI and the Kansas City police department are aware of the new developments. Picerno did not, however, elaborate on what information has been revealed or how he is aware of the inner workings of the investigation.

Authorities have not publicly commented on Picerno's statement. A spokesman for the Kansas City police department told KMBC-TV Monday that there are no new developments in the ongoing case. However, the same detectives who followed the case from the beginning remain on the investigation and it continues to be classified as a "missing/abducted child" case.

Investigators closed an outpost dedicated exclusively to solving baby Lisa's case in late November and authorities are now addressing the case in their main offices in Kansas City. Although Kansas City Police Capt. Steve Young insists the case is not closed, investigators have been encouraged to take on new cases due to a pile-up of child neglect and abuse cases. Young claims there are not enough resources to focus wholly on baby Lisa Irwin, especially as police have received fewer tips in the past few weeks compared with the previous several weeks.

The one-year-old's parents, Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, believe Lisa Irwin was kidnapped late Oct. 4, but following two months of investigation requested that the media, the police and the public leave the family alone. Bradley and Irwin have remained out of public view since late November 2011.

According to reports from the family and sources involved, Jeremy Irwin, an electrician, returned home on Oct. 4 to find his daughter missing. He called 911 to report the disappearance of baby Lisa. A window and screen were tampered with, lights were left on, the family's front door was unlocked and three cell phones were missing. Deborah Bradley claimed she last saw her daughter at 10:30 p.m. before falling asleep in bed with her two sons. It was later discovered that there was a fire in a dumpster near the Bradley-Irwin home at 2:30 a.m. The "Amber Alert" was turned on and a local suburban landfill was searched for a body. Baby Lisa has not been seen since the night of Oct. 4.

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Post by Wrapitup on Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:49 pm

Volunteers Search for Baby Lisa on Sunday
3:32 pm, January 15, 2012, by Eric Burke

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — It has been more than three months since baby Lisa Irwin disappeared from her Northland home and she’s still missing. Her family is in seclusion and remains quiet.

Concerned citizens continue to search for the baby. Over a dozen people searched an area near I-35 & Chouteau on Sunday.

“We are searching for clues for baby Lisa so we can bring her home safely,” said one volunteer named Edith.

Most of the search party wore boots and carried large sticks to aid their search. The terrain has changed a lot in the weeks since police last searched the area.

“At that point when they were searching, there was a lot more vegetation,” said a volunteer named Shelly.

It’s a long shot and each of the dedicated searchers realize that, but there’s something about Lisa Irwin that has drawn them together.

“We just can’t let it go,” Shelly said. “I mean, you know, a baby doesn’t just vanish you know.”

The area that was searched on Sunday was targeted by the group because of its proximity to the Irwin home where lisa disappeared. It’s just off the highway.

“They could throw stuff over, looking on hills, throw cell phones out,” Edith said. “If they are changing the baby they could throw her clothes out.”

Baby Lisa hasn’t been seen since her mother, Debra Bradley put her to bed on October 3, 2011. Lisa’s father, Jeremy Irwin came home well after midnight on October 4 and the baby wasn’t in her crib. The parents called Kansas City Police and the search began.

As of today, no one is in custody and baby Lisa hasn’t been found. The girl remains on people’s mind and volunteers say they will continue to search.

“As a mother and a grandmother, I can’t let it go,” Shelly said. “I mean, I feel like there’s not enough people out there seeing her face. She’s defenseless, innocent baby, she’s somewhere.”

There is still a $100,000 reward for the right piece of information Lisa’s location. People hope the information will lead to the baby’s return to her family.

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Post by Wrapitup on Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:51 pm

Missing Baby Lisa Irwin: Police Revisit Area in Search of Clues

By IBTIMES STAFF REPORTER
January 16, 2012 11:12 AM EST

The search for missing baby Lisa Irwin continued Sunday as police teams searched near Interstate 435 and Parvin Road near Kansas City. Baby Lisa's parents, Jeremy Irwin and Deborah Bradley, continue to maintain their silence in their missing daughter's case.

While police refused to reveal what information led them to search this area, KCTV-5 reported police have not conducted a major search of this particular region since mid-November. It is unclear why police decided to revisit the area in search for baby Lisa.

Fox 4 reports that independent volunteers continue to search for baby Lisa as well. Over a dozen volunteers searched an area near Interstate 35 and Chouteau on Sunday. The group targeted this area because of its proximity to Irwin and Bradley's home, reported Fox 4.

"We are searching for clues for baby Lisa so we can bring her home safely," one volunteer, Edith, told Fox 4.

"At that point when they were searching, there was a lot more vegetation," another volunteer, Shelly, commented. The volunteers remarked that the landscape in the area has changed in the past few weeks due to the weather and may leave clues more visible.

"We just can't let it go," she continued. "I mean, you know, a baby doesn't just vanish you know."

"They could throw stuff over, looking on hills, throw cell phones out," Edith continued. "If they are changing the baby they could throw her clothes out."

"As a mother and a grandmother, I can't let it go," Shelly told Fox 4. "I mean, I feel like there's not enough people out there seeing her face. She's defenseless, innocent baby, she's somewhere."

Lisa's father, electrician Jeremy Irwin, returned home to find his daughter missing on Oct. 4, 2011. He called 911 to report the disappearance of baby Lisa immediately.

A window and screen were tampered with, lights were left on, the family's front door was unlocked and three cell phones were missing. Deborah Bradley claimed she last saw her daughter at 10:30 p.m. before falling asleep in bed with her two sons. Bradley later admitted she had been drinking wine and may have been drunk the night her daughter disappeared.

Bradley and Irwin have been "uncooperative" and have refused to be interviewed separately by police. Lisa's parents have now asked that supporters cease their candlelight vigils and have expressed hope that their life can return to "normal." Onlookers wonder how the parents can even hope to live a "normal" life when their 1-year-old daughter has been missing for over three months.

A $10,000 reward has been offered for information related to finding baby Lisa from an anonymous donor.

Authorities continue to maintain they have no major suspects or leads in the case. Investigators closed an outpost dedicated exclusively to solving baby Lisa's case in late November and authorities are now addressing the case in their main offices in Kansas City.

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Post by Wrapitup on Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:29 am

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Please have a look at the two links Thurisaz posted above for more up-to-date information.

As for the uncle, we aren't even sure if it's really him, or someone posing as him. His story, though, has been consistent from what I've seen. It's likely he has more than one screen persona on FB, and I'm not going to spend my time trying to decipher all of it, but yes, he claims he was in KC and was interviewed by the FBI, and that he has been in touch with Law Enforcement and Investigators from the beginning.

The threats are news to me...but clearly from the story the voice was a woman's. This is interesting...I wonder if LE will now tap the phones of the employers that have received these threatening phone calls, or if they can access the pay-phone records (probably so).

If you look at the first link in Thur's post, the story links to a blog entry by Ron Rugen, a local investigator who's been doing an independent look into the case. He apparently is also in communication with LE, which is good.

Here's the link to that one posted on Wednesday last, the 11th of Jan:
Missing Lisa Irwin: 100 Days
It has now been 100 days since Lisa Irwin went missing from her home in Kansas City, Missouri's northland. If she is safe, she is 14 months old as of today. As time has passed, while it may feel we are no closer to answers, we have at least eliminated some questions.

In the last few months, I have received several emails and phone calls about Lisa's disappearance. Some of the correspondence has been theories or "gut feelings" from those who wanted to get my input or have me check information. While still other reactions have been things I have been asked to check into. Anything relevant I have come across, I have called Kansas City police with the information.
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When I say the Kansas City police department has not always been forthright, that is not at all a criticism. It is an observation. It has become a commonly held belief and accepted that police do this to get people to confess or otherwise provide information. Another example of inaccuracies was when authorities told Megan Wright (the woman whose phone was attempted to be dialed by someone on Bradley's phone that night) that her phone number was written on Deborah Bradley's hand. Both women deny knowing each other and the lack of evidence in phone records back that up.

Speaking of phone records, we have been granted legal access to Megan Wright's phone records from that night. Interestingly, that attempted call from Deborah Bradley's phone at 11:57 p.m. never reached Wright's phone. Many of us believe that phone call is key to this case. Whomever made that phone call was likely trying to reach either Megan or John "Jersey" Tanko. If you remember, Megan and Jersey had dated for five months but then had broke up under two weeks before Lisa's disappearance. Did whoever make that call know Jersey was no longer reachable at that number? Did they have the phone number memorized or was it written down?

Further, was there really an attempt to access the internet or voice mail from Bradley's phone at 3:17 a.m. and 3:22 a.m.? Or, is this another phone number written on the hand gimmick?

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Post by raine1953 on Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:20 am

The parents of Lisa Irwin may refuse to speak to media, or even take part in any of the attempts at keeping this child's name in the news. However, they'll certainly sit down for an interview with Dr. Phil McGraw for a national television special. It's been several weeks since anything has been muttered of their missing child, and only suspicion hovers over the heads of these parents.

A source has released the details revealing that Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin have sat down with Dr. Phil for an interview regarding their missing daughter. One-year-old Lisa Irwin vanished from their home in October of 2011, and since then there has been nothing but twists, turns and confusion. Deborah Bradley has already admitted to failing a polygraph test. She was also highly intoxicated the night the baby was allegedly kidnapped. Baby Lisa has been one of the most angering cases since the disappearance and murder of Caylee Marie Anthony.

It's said that they interviewed with Dr. Phil because of his "committment to keep the awareness level high," regarding the girl's disappearance. This doesn't make much sense, because there are tons of people who have been trying to keep awareness of this little girl known. Several news sources have tried contacting this family for interviews, including mainstream and amateur sources. So what does Dr. Phil have that all the other media sources don't? He only has an afternoon daytime talk show. His target audience is housewives, stay at home dads, invalids and the geriatric. But he does have an awful lot of money. Were Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin paid for their Dr. Phil interview?

What happened to baby Lisa Irwin?

To this day, Jeremy Irwin and Deborah Bradley are refusing to be interviewed separately by police. Their lawyers claim to have new leads in the case, but refuse to discuss them. Well, like it matters. They're just lawyers. They're not cops. They're simply trying their best to win a case and get some money and more fame. If they were truly concerned for this child, or what may have happened to her, they'd encourage their clients to cooperate with detectives. One could easily speculate that Lisa Irwin is probably not even alive, and perhaps that is why they're not expressing the urgency most parents would express when seeking a missing child.

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Post by Wrapitup on Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:45 am

So what does Dr. Phil have that all the other media sources don't? He only has an afternoon daytime talk show. His target audience is housewives, stay at home dads, invalids and the geriatric.
ROFLMAO ROFLMAO I'm sorry..what the hay is a "geriatric"? I know what "geriatric" prescriptions are. WTH??

And, When is this infamous interview? "Gather" left that important bit of news out.

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Post by Slys Hunny on Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:42 am

Hey Im still waiting for Corys interview sure not going to hold my breath for this one!!!
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Post by raine1953 on Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:33 am

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So what does Dr. Phil have that all the other media sources don't? He only has an afternoon daytime talk show. His target audience is housewives, stay at home dads, invalids and the geriatric.
ROFLMAO ROFLMAO I'm sorry..what the hay is a "geriatric"? I know what "geriatric" prescriptions are. WTH??

And, When is this infamous interview? "Gather" left that important bit of news out.
I wondered that too! I felt a bit insulted when I read I'm among the 'selected' population that sometimes watches Dr Phil!
Either way, if these parents are going to be on Dr Phil I wish I wouldn't watch! But I know I will. They can do zip to either tell the truth on what happened to that child or help with the searches, etc. They can't go on the local news to keep her face in the news but they can go on Dr Phil? BS!! I wonder how much money the show is paying them. Sickening.
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Missing baby Lisa Irwin parents appear on Dr. Phil talk show, interview taped

ANSAS CITY, Mo. - The parents of missing baby Lisa Irwin are talking to national media.
Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin returned from taping an interview with Dr. Phil.
Their New York attorney, Joe Tacopina, also joined them.
Tacopina did not go into detail about what was discussed.
The episode is expected to air in February.
Baby Lisa disappeared from the Irwin home on Oct. 4, 2011.
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If this interview was previously taped and will air sometime in February it sure isn't an appeal for the 'kidnapper' to return their baby! These two make me sick.
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Post by artgal16 on Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:19 pm

I agree - that poor baby is dead - and she knows it - I cant stand the sight of her.
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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:49 am

Just like DP taping the Ant's. BS, put both couples in front of an audience (neither couple would EVER agree to that) and let them ask anything they want.

Glad you found that it w/air "sometime in Feb." Could they be any more Vague????

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Parents of missing baby Lisa Irwin to appear on Dr. Phil

After a three month long silence, the parents of missing baby Lisa Irwin, have taped an exclusive interview with Dr. Phil, according to a press release.

The format will not be the customary audience participation, but instead will be closed. Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin will share their side of the story of what they believe really happened that night.

Joe Tacopina, Bradley and Irwin's attorney, told KCTV5 news that Dr. Phil provided "Deb and Jeremy with some advice on how to cope with the situation." Tacopina also said that "They sat down with Dr. Phil because of his commitment to keep the awareness level high."

Private investigator Bill Stanton, who is not licensed in Missouri, and who appeared in Kansas City several weeks after baby Lisa went missing to show support to the parents, is also scheduled to appear on the show to discuss whether he believes Lisa is still alive or not.

The show that is scheduled to air February 3, is anticipated to be a high rated show, as the mystery and controversy surrounding the disappearance is still highly discussed. Theories and speculations, primarily on the internet, have reached a feverish pitch, as armchair detectives search for clues to what happened to missing baby Lisa.

CNN reporter Jim Spellman who has followed this case closely and openly, said on Twitter, yesterday:


"A couple people have asked me for more details on the divide in the family. Basically there is one camp that supports Tacopina/Stanton and 
their strategy of only doing these occasional hi profile media appearances and another camp that thinks they should be doing 
all the media they can. To be totally clear BOTH camps...everyone in the family I am in touch with thinks Deb and Jeremy are innocent 
and everyone is critical of the KCPD saying they have focused too much DB/JI at the expense of pursuing other angles."

Then later on he posted:

"Just spoke w/KCPD. Short version is nothing is new. Still want to talk to DB/JI, All crime lab type work is done. Case remains open."

Let's hope that now that the lab work is done that the authorities will be able to move forward with this case and find out what happened to baby Lisa.
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Post by raine1953 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:33 am

I wonder how much money is being paid and to who/what for this interview? It sounds like such a sham, the parents are coming on to 'share their side of the story on what they think happened'? BS. They're coming on to say the same thing they've said before. Bill Stanton will be there to get his face on TV.
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Lisa Irwin Video Footage Released; How Long was She Missing?

Detectives investigating the Lisa Irwin disappearance haven't been very vocal these days, but some new footage has finally been released from their end. The dashcam footage was obtained from the cruiser who responded to the initial call reporting the child's disappearance. Apparently, Missouri open records law makes this kind of material available to the public.

However, the dashcam doesn't show any interaction with Jeremy Irwin or Deborah Bradley. The investigators on this case say that there are stipulations to the state's open records law, making this kind of omission legal. There are some factual statements however to be learned from this newest update in the Lisa Irwin disappearance. One detail is that Jeremy Irwin and Deborah Bradley had no idea how long their daughter was missing. In the days and weeks beyond this dashcam footage, spans of time were given and changed. First Deb Bradley told police she had put her daughter to bed at around 10:30 p.m. and then later she admitted that she hadn't seen her for several hours prior to that.

Also, it was earlier reported that Jeremy Irwin banged on the door of their neighbor, the woman who was spending time with Irwin that night -- drinking wine and smoking cigarettes on the porch. Her name is Samantha Brando, and she and her husband have been quite involved with this case. The early versions of this story is that when Jeremy banged on the Brando's door, Samantha answered. He asked if Lisa was at their home and she said no, asking why she'd be at their house.

The fact of the matter is a little different from the reports. You see, the night of this dashcam footage, Jeremy Irwin banged on the Brando's door and they were not home.

Police reports state that Deborah Bradley didn't initially search for her daughter behind the home, telling police that "she was afraid of what she might find." This is rather different from accounts released by those representing the "Bradwins," stating that Deborah was in a ball on the floor crying as police searched.

What happened to baby Lisa Irwin?

It's going on four months now and this little baby still hasn't been found. It's been quite apparent from the start that something suspicious has happened and while police haven't been entirely forthcoming with all of the details, they're doing a good job of conveying the general point of the evidence they've gathered. It would be interesting to see the dashcam footage of Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin interacting with police, but they will not release that much. Perhaps when things progress a little further, the public will gain access to this extra footage.

In the meantime, Lisa Irwin needs justice for whatever it was that truly happened to her. Whether she was abducted, harmed in the home or whatever, this is a child who is missing and the parents are obviously in a game of legal cat and mouse right now. That's overshadowing their daughter's case. Is this little girl really missing? Or did Deborah Bradley really fail her polygraph test for a reason?
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Post by artgal16 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:46 am

What happened to Baby Lisa? Well we know she is dead and her mother is involved - and I for one think there should be just as much outcry to Dr Phil
whom I cannot stand, for exploiting another situation trying to get public sympathy when the investigation is ongoing. We need to write or call him and let me know that once again, we wont watch his show and boycott his advertisers.
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We did that when the Ant's were on DP as many did and it didn't do a damned bit of good. DP is doing this for Ratings. Makes me sick!! I w/NOT be watching.

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KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) - The parents of missing baby Lisa Irwin told KCTV5 Thursday afternoon that they are still looking for her and believe she is still alive.

Debbie Bradley and Jeremy Irwin spoke a day before their appearance on the Dr. Phil show airs nationally. They say they believe the show will bring exposure to people across the country who might be able to help bring their daughter home.

"Nobody takes a baby to hurt her," Bradley said. "She's coming home."

That comment brought the most emotion from Bradley during an interview at her home. Bradley was gracious and calm as she spoke to KCTV5's Sandra Olivas, who went to the family's Northland home to ask them about the Dr. Phil appearance.

On Thursday night Irwin said, "We talked to police earlier today."


During the interview Thursday afternoon, Irwin was soft spoken as he said he believes the television appearance will get his daughter back and help bring her back to their arms.

"She is still out there. She is still missing," Irwin said. "We are still looking for her."

The Dr. Phil appearance comes four months after Lisa's family last saw her. Irwin and Bradley indicated new information would be revealed during the appearance but didn't say what it was.

"We are so excited about it," Bradley said about the television appearance. "We cannot wait for it, for her face to be all over television again and reach different people."

Irwin said he was hopeful, too.

"A lot of people will see it and hopefully someone will see her somewhere," he said.


Capt. Steve Young, spokesman for the Kansas City Police Department, reiterated Thursday afternoon that detectives continue to actively investigate her disappearance, but the quantity and quality of tips has diminished in the ensuing weeks.

"It is still far from a cold case," Young said.

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Detectives met w/parents of Lisa Irwin today. Did not learn anything significant but hopeful there will be more meetings in future.
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Missing Missouri 1-year-old baby Lisa Irwin's parents appeared on Dr. Phil today and the toddler's mother angrily complained that the investigation is "not a circus."

The couple broke a nearly three month silence. The normally stoic couple vented their frustrations, and Lisa's mother Deborah Bradley became heated when discussing what she says are misconceptions the public has about her.

"It just became a circus. It's not a joke, it's not a circus, it's not a game," a tearful Deborah Bradley said. "This is my baby."

Lisa disappeared the night of Oct. 3, 2011 from her Kansas City home and the family has maintained from the beginning that the girl was abducted from her bedroom inside the home while her mother and brothers were asleep in another room.

Deborah Bradley, 25, and the girl's father Jeremy Irwin, 29, became a focal point for suspicion by both the public and the police. The relationship between the parents and the Kansas City Police Department has been contentious, with frequent public sparring between the two.

They have argued about issues including the extent of the parents' cooperation, polygraph tests and interviewing Lisa's two young brothers.

"All I know is that someone came into our house and took her for some reason and all I know is that she's still out there somewhere," Jeremy Irwin told Dr. Phil.

The Kansas City Police Department did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Bradley addressed the criticism that surrounded the revelation that she had been drinking the night Lisa disappeared. Dr. Phil asked her directly if she was drunk the night her daughter disappeared.

"To me, more than two drinks in an hour means you're drunk, so yes," she said. "I told the truth because I have nothing to hide."

"Pretty much the only thing that I'm guilty of is drinking too much. And even when she comes back, that's something I have to live with that I might have heard something and been able to stop them," a tearful Bradley said.

She said the issue has been blown out of proportion and that she is neither an alcoholic nor a neglectful parent.

"All three of my kids mean the world to me," she said angrily. "The entire scenario of me drinking outside with a friend…has been blown into a theatrical giant theory-fest."

Dr. Phil also asked her about the changing timeline that she presented to authorities and to the public. She has said that she put Lisa to sleep early around 6:30 p.m. because she was not feeling well, but there have been discrepancies about whether or not Bradley later checked on Lisa in her bedroom.

"It is literally impossible to remember every single detail and say it exactly the same every single time and there are so many negative people or hateful people that have picked it all apart," Bradley said. "If I had done something, I'd be in jail right now. Joe [Tacopina, her attorney] doesn't save me from jail."

Tacopina said that claims Bradley had failed a polygraph test were false.

Private investigator "Wild" Bill Stanton also appeared on the show to discuss his part of the investigation and the anonymous benefactor who hired him and is offering a $100,000 reward for information leading to the resolution of the case.

The benefactor is a women with ties to a member of the Irwin family, Stanton said. He said he was hired by the benefactor, not the family, to solve the case.

"I did not want to take this case for the parents because, quite frankly, when I got on that plane I thought they did it," Stanton said.

He said that the first time he sat down with the parents, he told them, "I'm not here for you. I'm here for Lisa."

Stanton did not go into specifics, but he said that the more he investigates the disappearance, the more he believes the abductor was from outside the home.

Bradley said she has had to talk to Lisa's two brothers about her disappearance.

"My boys ask about her all the time," she said. "We tell them we're never going to stop looking. We'll bring her home."

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Post by raine1953 on Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:54 pm

Did anyone see the show? I did but had a 100+ fever and that probably clouded my thinking. I think she explained things fairly well, the hubby didn't seem as weird to me but who knows, I may have been delusional.
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I didn't see it as was driving back to Corpus and probably wouldn't have watched it anyway.

Pat Brown said on her FB not to believe a word they or that shyster lawyer says and I agree with her. These two are in this big time. I don't know if they killed Ayla but the mother was drunk and probably in a black out..thus, she is feeling major guilt as someone took off with her child. That's my take, anyway. Reminds me of the HaLeigh case.

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The mother of Lisa Irwin may not be as credible as she tried to come across during her appearance on Dr. Phil on Friday. On Saturday a detective analyzed the episode and has pointed out quite a few things he disagrees with in regards to Deborah Bradley's statements. He feels that this segment of Dr. Phil will be quite useful in the police investigation into the disappearance of the Kansas City baby.

The detective has raised questions toward Deborah Bradley's excuses about not remembering details the night her baby was allegedly abducted. When the mother of Lisa Irwin addressed Dr. Phil McGraw on his Friday show she said it was virtually impossible to remember all the facts—it's agreeable that the things she forgot and changed in the earlier days of this case were not things most people would forget. Could this forgetfulness be attributed to her alcohol use or could she simply be making excuses?

It's hopeful that detectives on the case will look over the footage as this detective has done and maybe they'll see the same things he pointed out.

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Lisa Irwin's mom: Part of original story was exaggerated

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - The mother of a missing Kansas City baby told Dr. Phil part of the family’s initial report to police was a “total exaggeration.”

Lisa Irwin was 10 months old when she disappeared on Oct. 4, 2011. Her parents, Jeremy Irwin and Deborah Bradley, reported to police that Jeremy Irwin came home from an overnight shift at about 4 a.m. to find all the lights in their Northland home on and Lisa missing from her crib.

But in an episode of Dr. Phil when asked whether someone who may have kidnapped Lisa would turn on all the lights in the house, Bradley told him that portion of their story was not necessarily true.

“I’m not gonna sit on TV until now when I’m being asked that specific question and rebuttal it,” Bradley said, sitting next to Jeremy Irwin and attorney, Joe Tacopina, “because to me, it’s just nonsense. It’s just picking my words apart.

“When he came into the house that morning and said all the lights were on in the house," Bradley continued, "it was a total exaggeration.”

No suspects have been named in Lisa’s disappearance, but soon after she was reported missing, Kansas City police said Jeremy Irwin’s and Deborah Bradley’s cooperation into the investigation wavered.

Jeremy Irwin told Dr. Phil reaction from the Kansas City community has been mixed.

“There’s a lot of people that are coming forward and helping and supportive,” Jeremy Irwin said. “There’s also a lot of people that are out there and don’t have a lot of information and are making ridiculous accusations.”

NBC Action News talked to Jeremy Irwin Thursday about the interview with Dr. Phil to see what he hopes to gain from the nationally televised broadcast.

“A new audience will see more recent pictures and help bring her home,” said Jeremy Irwin.

Leads into Lisa’s disappearance quickly reached into the thousands, but on Thursday, Kansas City police spokesman Steve Young said tips have been diminishing.
“But it is in no way a cold case,” Young told NBC Action News in an email. “It is still actively being investigated.”
Thursday, detectives met with Lisa’s parents and their attorney. Sgt. Stacey Graves with the Kansas City Police Department said investigators did not learn anything significant but are hopeful there will be more meetings in the future.

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February 19, 2012 09:45 AM EST

A man once implicated in the Lisa Irwin disappearance has been arrested in connection to the stabbing of a 31-year-old Missouri man. Dane Greathouse, one of Megan Wright's former roommates near the home of the missing child, is currently being held on around $175,000.00 bond. In case you don't remember exactly who Dane is, he's the mysterious friend who was once reported to have answered that 50-second mystery call made from one of the allegedly stolen phones belonging to the parents of the missing baby.

Dane L. Greathouse (who also goes by Dane Diggler) was arrested this weekend after allegedly stabbing the same man in two different locations. The stabbing victim, 31-year-old Greg Robinson May, is expected to make a full recovery after undergoing emergency surgery. This took place in Kansas City, the same city in which baby Lisa Irwin was allegedly abducted. This has been a quiet case since the mother of the missing child began talking to the media too much and then lawyered up quickly. Since the third week of the investigation, there have been very few details.

Could Dane Greathouse's violent criminal tendencies be any indication as to what happened the night baby Lisa vanished? While police claim to have cleared all of these individuals, it's a strange thing to happen so close in timing to the child's disappearance. It's reported that he has a history of breaking and entering, theft and the sort—much like John "Jersey" Tanko, who also lived with Megan Wright at one point. With him already being rumored to have answered a call from the missing phone belonging to Jeremy Irwin and Deborah Bradley, this only ties him a little closer to the possibility of something sinister happening that night.

Where is Lisa Irwin?

While it's easy to speculate on Dane Greathouse (a.k.a. Dane Diggler), most of the known evidence in this investigation points to Deborah Bradley. This isn't saying that she is guilty of any wrongdoing, but it's apparent that more is known about what happened to baby Lisa and not enough is being revealed. Police reportedly used cadaver dogs which hit on the scent of death in the woman's bedroom, and she has publicly admitted to failing a polygraph test.

She also admitted to lying about the last time she'd seen her young daughter. At first she was put in bed later in the evening, and that quickly changed to several hours earlier. If Deborah Bradley were to write a book about this case, it would probably be titled I Really Don't Remember, I was Really Drunk: How I got on Dr. Phil. It's not nice to be so critical, but come on already! Things are getting just a little too quiet while the investigators on this case keep mum on any details, if there are any.

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Post by raine1953 on Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:55 am

Lisa Irwin Case: 'Jersey' Sentenced to Jail Time on Tampering Charges
March 19, 2012 06:35 AM EDT

It's sad that the latest update in the Lisa Irwin case involves someone who is cleared of suspicion by the Kansas City Police and detectives on the investigation. It seems that this entire case has gone cold and it's probably mostly thanks to Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin with their lack of cooperation with detectives. Nonetheless, it's news to know that Johnny "Jersey" Tanko has been sentenced to jail time, further placing him away from the situation at hand.

Jersey has been in jail since at least the week Lisa Irwin was allegedly abducted from her home while her mother slept in a separate room, heavily intoxicated and unaware of the goings-on around her. From the beginning, neighbors pointed fingers at him, referring to him as the "shifty" maintenance man, a vagabond who is known to burglarize homes and climb into them through windows. This naturally gave way for Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin to also point fingers in the man's direction. Police have cleared him, though, and have always focused their attention on Lisa's mom, Deb Bradley.

Jersey has been sentenced to five years in prison after he was found guilty on some vehicular tampering charge completely unrelated to the Lisa Irwin disappearance. That means he has at least a few years to stay out of the picture while this investigation continues. He'll also be more readily accessible by media outlets, unless of course he is denied any visitors which is unlikely. Perhaps detectives can get some time with him to further grill him to completely make sure they have the right guy cleared. It seems like they're on the right path though.
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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:53 pm

Thank you for the update raine
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