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More than one year after the disappearance of Escondido teen Amber Dubois, sources say there has been a major development in the case.

Investigators have scheduled a 3.30 p.m. news conference regarding Amber's case but would not reveal any other details.

Amber was last seen walking on Feb. 13, 2009 with a man about 200 yards from Escondido High School. She was 14-years old at the time.

In late February, Poway teenager Chelsea King's disappearance launched an extensive search in the area around Lake Hodges with officers from multiple agencies. A body was found along the southern edge of the lake and a registered sex offender was charged with murder and rape in Chelsea's death.

Updated 3:26 PM PST, Sun, Mar 7, 2010

More than one year after the disappearance of Escondido teen Amber Dubois, sources say there has been a major development in the case.

Investigators have scheduled a 3.30 p.m. news conference regarding Amber's case but would not reveal any other details.

Amber was last seen walking on Feb. 13, 2009 with a man about 200 yards from Escondido High School. She was 14-years old at the time.

In late February, Poway teenager Chelsea King's disappearance launched an extensive search in the area around Lake Hodges with officers from multiple agencies. A body was found along the southern edge of the lake and a registered sex offender was charged with murder and rape in Chelsea's death.

John Albert Gardner III pleaded not guilty in the rape and slaying of 17-year-old Chelsea King.

After the discovery of a body in the King search, the search for Amber intensified.

On Friday, law enforcement officers were in Kit Carson Park in Escondido following up on a tip that a group of children found a bag with hair inside. On Saturday, police drained the pond in the park for a second day of searching. Investigators found no clues, Escondido police Lt. Craig Carter said.

Amber's father has said he can't help but draw connections between his daughter's case and Chelsea King's and that he's spoken with investigators with Escondido police as well as the San Diego County Sheriff's Department.

Maurice Dubois said a spate of early reports that his daughter had been seen hampered his efforts to draw attention to the case. None of those sightings panned out and instead fueled speculation that Amber was a runaway rather than a crime victim.

"The circumstances were completely different," Dubois said. "The evidence that they found on Chelsea led them to believe that they needed to find her immediately. There was never, ever any evidence found on Amber."

At the time of Amber’s disappearance, Gardner lived just two miles from Escondido High School in the Rock Springs East apartment complex.

Dubois said this isn’t the first time he’s heard the name John Gardner.

“We did pull a list of all sexual predators at the time Amber went missing. He was on that list of sexual predators in the area,” he said.

Amber was last seen just after 7 a.m. Friday, Feb. 13, 2009 about a block from Escondido High. The girl's parents said she was especially excited to get to school to exchange Valentine's Day gifts with friends. She also couldn't wait to pay for her baby lamb through the school's Future Farmer's of America program.

The woman who last saw the teenager used to drive her to middle school, according to Amber's father. Another neighbor reported seeing Amber about 300 yards from the school yet she never appeared on school surveillance cameras.

The teen's cell phone was activated for a few seconds the Saturday after she was last seen but according to her parents, hasn't been used since. Investigators announced the results of a computer forensics search of the teenager's computer, saying nothing on the computer offered up any clues as to the girl's whereabouts.

Volunteers launched a door-to-door search the weekend after Amber's disappearance. In the weeks that followed, family and friends held candlelight vigils and organized search parties to cover areas of Escondido and parts of the North County.

Even the television program "America's Most Wanted" has profiled the case. The family told producers of the show that Amber sent four texts to her grandmother before leaving the house that morning for the roughly mile long walk to school.

Amber’s family says Amber was a model student who never talked about running away and they believe she was abducted.

Source: Major Development in Amber Dubois Case: Sources | NBC San Diego


http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local-beat/Major-Development-in-Amber-Dubois-Case-Sources-86763297.html


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Post by Nama on Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:34 pm

Over a year since her disappearance, the skeletal remains of 14-year-old Amber Dubois were found on the Pala Indian Reservation, police said.

Escondido Police Chief Jim Maher made the announcement at a news conference Sunday, where he said the remains were positively identified from dental records.

"Human skeleton remains have been identified as those of our missing 14-year-old Amber," Chief Maher said. "The discovery was made in the early morning hours of Saturday in the very rugged and remote area of Pala, which is in northern San Diego County."

Dubois' parents -- Maurice Dubois and Carrie McGonigle -- were present at the news conference and made a brief statement, thanking those in the community and the volunteers who have been working to find their daughter.

"We'd like to thank everybody involved in the search for Amber. The entire community, everybody who helped out in our search efforts and above all our huge volunteer corp they were the most dedicated you could ever imagine and without them we could not have done anything.

Though he declined to answer questions, Chief Maher said the discovery was part of an ongoing murder investigation -- a "lead" brought investigators to the reservation. He did not elaborate as to the nature of that lead.

The disappointing end to the search for Dubois comes on the heels of the discovery of what investigators believe is the body of Chelsea King, 17, who was last seen about 10 miles from Dubois' last known location.

Dubois had been missing since February 13, 2009, when she disappeared near Escondido High School.

http://www.necn.com/03/07/10/Police-Skeletal-remains-of-Amber-Dubois-/landing_nation.html?blockID=193062&feedID=4207

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Post by lisette on Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:42 pm

Gardner must have given them info for them to have found her remains after all this time, and so soon after Chelsea was found...
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Post by Nama on Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:42 pm

After the announcement Sunday afternoon that the remains of 14-year-old Escondido teen Amber Dubois were located in Pala, 10News spoke with the publicist hired by Amber's grandmother about the dogs the family brought out to search for the teen last year and the positive hit they received on the Pala reservation.
Publicist Michelle Bart was noticeably upset in her interview with 10News' Itica Milanes. Bart broke into tears when describing the frustration she felt dealing with Escondido police.
The dogs brought to locate Amber in August of 2009, were scent dogs with special training for cold cases.

10News reporter Steve Fiorina spoke with the veteran dog handlers who told him that they'd found clues on cases where the person had been missing longer than Amber Dubois had been at that point.
The two dogs, Jack, a German shorthaired pointer, and Quincy, a yellow labrador retriever, were each trained to track an old scent but with different specialties.
"Jack is a very air-sensitive dog," dog handler Sarah Platts said. "Quincy is detail oriented."
"As a family, we decided to try anything we can," Moe Dubois, Amber's father, said.
"Its been very difficult because we know that back in August those dogs hit on Pala," the publicist, who worked closely with the family, told Milanes Sunday.
"Two dogs hit on particular things," she said, "the handlers knew nothing about the case... We said there's no doubt in our minds, we'll go to our death beds knowing that Amber's been here."
But Bart said the officer assigned to their search didn't seem interested. "The officer that was with us didn't do anything, he kept quiet the whole time just like he was our escort," she said.
"It was unbelievable, just unbelievable," she said. "When the police came out and told all of you in the media that the dogs didn't hit on anything, nothing was found... my heart has been dropping because we could not say anything."
Bart said she was assured by authorities that Escondido police and other law enforcement were going to look into the area in Pala where the dogs responded. "We gave our reports to cops that patronized us," she said.

http://www.10news.com/news/22770513/detail.html

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Normal a "lead" brought investigators to the reservation. He did not elaborate as to the nature of that lead.

Post by Nama on Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:44 pm

by lisette Today at 11:42 pm Gardner must have given them info for them to have found her remains after all this time, and so soon after Chelsea was found...
Though he declined to answer questions, Chief Maher said the discovery was part of an ongoing murder investigation -- a "lead" brought investigators to the reservation. He did not elaborate as to the nature of that lead.

You might be right and I wondcered about that. Maybe he was trying to get out of a death penalty.......

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Normal Apparently the tip that led authorities to Amber's body did not come from Gardner.

Post by Nama on Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:50 pm

John Albert Gardner is being charged with the rape and murder of 17-year-old San Diego girl Chelsea King, and Amber Dubois' body has just been found. Dubois disappeared in February 2009 from around the same area King went missing, and was later found dead.

Speculation began early in the King case that Gardner could possibly linked to the 14-year-old's disappearance. Authorities say they are looking into the possiblity that the two cases are connected.

Dubois' case was reexamined after King's body surfaced, and Gardner was linked by DNA found on her underwear. Sheriffs reportedly found Dubois' body today in north San Diego, and have not released details about whether or not the two cases are linked. Apparently the tip that led authorities to Amber's body did not come from Gardner.

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Post by Nama on Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:53 pm

Shortly after 5 p.m. Sunday, Lori Coburn of Poway walked down Broadway next to Escondido High School and approached a poster asking for information on Amber Dubois’ disappearance.

She pulled yellow ribbon from a bag and fashioned two bows, hanging them on each side of the poster on a fence outside the school.

Coburn was already planning to go to the high school when her brother called her with the news that Amber’s remains had been found in Pala on Saturday.

Amber went missing 13 months ago while walking to the school.

Coburn didn’t know Amber. Her three children had attended Poway High.

“I would want to find my child and would want to know others want to find my child,” she said.

Coburn was among numerous people who showed up at the school Sunday evening. Strangers who cared.

Lee Marin, a history teacher at Escondido High, was at the Palomar Family YMCA across the street from the school attending a cheer practice with her fifth-grade daughter when another mother received a text about Amber.

Marin, who stopped at the school on her way home, said news of the discovery “hurt me to the pit of my stomach.”

“I’m glad to see the ribbons going up,” Marin said.

Another family drove up in an SUV.

“It just feels like we know her,” said Joann Warren of Escondido.

They placed on the fence above the poster two purple fabric flowers that light up. They also hung a note and card in a plastic bag to protect them from the rain that was falling.

“Dear Amber,” the note read, “You’re in a much better place now. May you rest in peace. You will be missed by everyone. Love, the Warren family.”

On the same note was a message to the Dubois family from the Joyce family: “Words are hard to come by at a time like this. Please know that Amber is in a safer place now where she is loved.”

The family of Chelsea King, a 17-year-old Poway girl whose body was found Tuesday at Lake Hodges in a similar disappearance, posted a comment on Chelsea’s memorial Facebook page expressing sympathy for Amber’s family.

“Chelsea’s light is grieving not only for Chelsea, but for beautiful Amber Dubois, whose remains were discovered today. Our hearts and love go out to the Dubois family,” they wrote.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/mar/07/caring-strangers-mourn-amber-escondido-high/

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Post by Wrapitup on Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:13 pm


Apparently the tip that led authorities to Amber's body did not come from Gardner.
I think Zimbo got it wrong - the timing of finding Amber's body cannot be ignored.

Also, how could the officer assigned to the search poo poo the dogs hitting where her body was found today? I hope the officer is fired!!

And, I hope this brings Mr. & Mrs. DuBois some long overdue closure. I get the impression they are divorced, as I saw Mrs. DuBois on (I believe) The Today Show and she stated she did NOT think John Gardner killed her daughter.


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Post by Wrapitup on Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:22 pm

Remains of Amber Dubois found in Pala
Escondido girl missing more than a year; discovery follows that of Chelsea King's body

By Kristina Davis, UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

Originally published March 7, 2010 at 1:35 p.m., updated March 7, 2010 at 4:41 p.m.

Tip in Amber Dubois case leads to Escondido pond

PAST COVERAGE

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Feb. 28, 2009: Where did Amber go?

March 5, 2009: $60,000 reward offered for tips on missing teen

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The skeletal remains of missing Escondido teenager Amber Dubois have been found more than a year after she vanished while walking to school one morning, authorities announced Sunday.

“The discovery was made in the early morning hours Saturday in a very rugged and remote area of Pala,” said Escondido Police Chief Jim Maher. “Escondido police and sheriff’s homicide detectives were following a lead in the case when they made the discovery.”

The remains, found north of the Pala reservation, were positively identified through dental records Saturday afternoon.

Maher, flanked by Sheriff Bill Gore and FBI Special Agent-in-Charge Keith Slotter, declined to answer any questions at the 5-minute news conference at the Escondido Police Department, citing the ongoing murder investigation. He said the investigation would be a joint effort between the three agencies.

“Any details, no matter how slight, would be inappropriate to reveal at this time,” Maher said.

Amber’s parents, Moe Dubois and Carrie McGonigle, expressed their thanks for the immense search effort.

“The entire community, everybody who helped out with the search effort, and above all our huge volunteer corps, they are the most dedicated people and without them we couldn’t have done anything,” said a tearful Moe Dubois.

Robert Smith, Chairman of the Pala Indian Band, said that he was unaware of the investigation and that he first heard about it on the news.

“Our prayers go out to the family,” he said.

The discovery comes just days after the body of 17-year-old Poway girl Chelsea King was found buried in a shallow grave along the shores of Lake Hodges.

Investigators have been working to determine if John Albert Gardner III, a 30-year-old registered sex offender who was arrested in Chelsea’s slaying, may have also been connected to Amber’s disappearance. Gardner was living about two miles away from the area where Amber vanished.

The discovery ends the painstaking search for Amber that took family members, law enforcement and hundreds of volunteers throughout southern California and into Mexico over the past 13 months.

Reached by phone, Amber’s grandmother Sheila Welch said, “I am a very sad grandmother today.”

Amber was 14 when she disappeared the morning of Feb. 13, 2009, as she was walking to Escondido High School.

Her family said it was unlikely she ran away. She had no extra clothes, and she was excited to purchase a lamb she was going to raise through the school’s agricultural program. The $200 check she carried to school that day has never been cashed, police said.

Instead, authorities have said she most likely got into a vehicle with someone, possibly someone she knew.

Two witnesses who knew Amber saw her walking on North Broadway near the football field with a tall, dark-skinned boy described as “doughy.”

But she, nor the boy, were ever captured on security cameras near the front of the school.

Escondido police, with help from the FBI and other agencies, have spent thousands of hours investigating the case.

Last summer, search dogs from Maine hired by the family apparently traced her scent to the Pala library, but no one there remembered having seen her. Bloodhounds used by the FBI several months later found no hint of her there.

Authorities renewed the search effort again last week, draining a murky pond at Kit Carson Park after receiving a tip that three girls had found a bag with hair around it in the pond in May.

Divers scoured the pond and others combed the banks, but Escondido police concluded Saturday afternoon that no new evidence had been found. They made no mention of the concurrent search happening in Pala.

Investigators have not revealed if they’ve been able to interrogate Gardner regarding Amber’s case since his arrest.

Amber’s father on Saturday likened the ordeal to a hellish, never-ending rollercoaster ride that he just wanted to get off. “We need to have our closure. If she’s somewhere around, we won’t stop until we find her,” he said.

A $100,000 has been offered in the case. Sheriff’s officials declined to say if the reward money would be paid to anyone.

Investigators have said Amber’s disappearance bore many similarities to Chelsea’s.

Chelsea, a senior at Poway High School, vanished Feb. 25 after apparently going for a run in Rancho Bernardo Community Park. She never returned home. Her black BMW was found in the parking lot.

A breathless five-day search in the vicinity ended Tuesday with the discovery of her body.

Gardner, who was arrested at a nearby restaurant, Hernandez Hide-A-Way, on Feb. 28, has been charged with murder in Chelsea’s case, as well as assault with the intent to rape in a separate attack on a 22-year-old jogger Dec. 27.

Authorities identified Gardner from semen on a piece of Chelsea’s clothing that was run through a national DNA database at a state lab last weekend, California Department of Justice said.

Video of press conference here:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/mar/07/bn07amberpresser/?imw=Y

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Post by laga on Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:37 am

I don't know if the closure families have outweighs the end of hope in cases like this. This is very sad.
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Post by lisette on Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:00 am

After they found out that a SO had committed this murder (Chelsea) and lived in the area, maybe LE decided to follow up on the fact that the dogs picked up a scent back up in August of 2009 in that area...realized that they had "messed up" when the officer didn't take it seriously...or maybe something they found in Gardner's belongings led them to that area (notes, maps, GPS, cell phone pings, computer searches?) Or, maybe he actually told somebody that turned in the info....Just wondering and speculating about how LE knew to go to that exact area so soon after the murder of Chelsea (when they didn't go there before for an extensive search)
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Post by Guest on Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:47 am

lisette wrote:After they found out that a SO had committed this murder (Chelsea) and lived in the area, maybe LE decided to follow up on the fact that the dogs picked up a scent back up in August of 2009 in that area...realized that they had "messed up" when the officer didn't take it seriously...or maybe something they found in Gardner's belongings led them to that area (notes, maps, GPS, cell phone pings, computer searches?) Or, maybe he actually told somebody that turned in the info....Just wondering and speculating about how LE knew to go to that exact area so soon after the murder of Chelsea (when they didn't go there before for an extensive search)

I agree, Lisette! This is too much of a coincidence to not be connected to Gardner & his arrest. Suspect
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Post by CritterFan1 on Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:00 am

laga wrote:I don't know if the closure families have outweighs the end of hope in cases like this. This is very sad.
I know, you hope against hope that somehow she will come back home. Now that Jaycee Duggard has found her way home I always hope that one of these poor murdered girls will get home , alive also. This poor beautiful Teenager. It is heartbreaking.
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Post by frogs on Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:24 pm

Another horrible outcome for such a young innocent girl. I know the family will never get over such a loss, but am glad that they will now be able to lay her to rest appropriately and with the dignity that she deserves.
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Post by Heike on Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:08 am

I think the hardest thing, having been the best friend of Linda (bless her, passed in 2003), whose 7 yr old was raped and murdered by a 14 year old neighbor...is that no matter how hard they try to find that place of peace and closure...the tape of what their child must have experienced plays over and over in their minds.

In her case, she knew more than many do, as his confession and the police report was finally shared with her at her insistance, two years later. It came to my mailbox, as they lost their home due to the trauma and moved in with us...the confession included language that no mother could ever endure..."I was choking her with the bike chain and she was trying to scream, 'please........... mama, please............ mama'" Then he put her in the closet and violated her sexually in death, until he could not handle the smell. Then he stuffed her behind his waterbed headboard, where the smell after four days...brought discovery. His psychiatrist recommended that he not be released as he was unable to be rehabilitated. He was released, at 25, per law, without consideration of the psychiatrist's recommendation and none of us have ever fully recovered from sweet Sarah's death. Even though the family was given information up to his release, I have not ever found information on him on SO registry, nothing.

These parents, in their new loss, can only say what they feel is important to say to the public, give their thanks, etc... they are still in shock...yet, their lives will forever hold the torture of imagining the horror that ended their sweet child's life. We talk about closure, but I really question that concept...Laga's point was well made. The choices are without comprehension...wondering, hoping and fearing OR knowing? I imagine that we all would choose knowing...which comes with its own set of horrors and pain.

I am not a vindictive person and honestly have a tendency to try to understand why people who are born innocent babies like the rest of us find their way to monster behavior (not that I excuse it, EVER, but I DO wonder how that baby turns into a monster?)...but I am so OVER caring WHY right now.

F it, castrate them, kill them, I don't care! Along with sweet Sarah's tape of her death that I witnessed through Curtis Cooper's confession, running through my mind for 20 years...I feel I have many potential tapes running through my mind as well, countless, but most recently...Chelsea running happily through the park, and then? Amber, on her way to school...what happened, at what moment did she get scared? What kind of fear and horror did they experience?

To think of it, is BEYOND devastating...for any of us to know that feeling of being murdered and knowing our life is ending through such a violent act...all of our dreams, hopes...facing that fear, that pain?

I know I am addressing this in a tough way...but I am COMPLETELY over our judicial system! How do we stop SO's from getting the opportunity to do this again??? A better decision on Gardner's case would have saved at least one life, probably two, maybe more? And these are not just words...as they seem to be to most (not us), they are the reality of a young woman being raped and killed...at some point knowing she is going to die, when not so long ago she was looking at her life with hope and dreams?

I am blessed to have a beautiful daughter who is thriving and loving life...if that were to suddenly END and be news in the limelight, with her END in suffering, knowing she had faced a violent, demeaning, frightening death? I think I would lose my mind, but these parent's survive, so I guess I would too...

How can we make a difference more than caring? How can we address the judicial system?

I am SICK with grief for these families and they just keep adding up and time goes on...? More tomorrow and next week? How can we CHANGE it?

Seriously, we have a voice...we have to find a path to use it!!

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Post by Heike on Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:32 am

So, I proposed a way to find a solution, without actually offering any ideas to do so (shame on me), I was emotional....

I know that there are victim's advocates out there, let's find them, join them if we choose, or start our own, if we feel it is more true to our belief's. I just truly believe that we need to take our views and feelings beyond just feeling them...how can we impact the choices that are made to allow someone like Gardner to kill again?

Let's get involved in the process? Try to take our strong voices to a place where they can matter? Our congressman are not reading this...let's write them? Not on a case, but on the whole concept of how we handle these criminals?

I am so pissed right now...reel me in, if I need reeling...but tell me how you feel? Should we take a stand and really bring it on? What are the choices? We keep saying, another harsh case, love to the family...and we mean it, but how do we change it? We cannot see the unknown, but we CAN try to change the laws of how we handle the known...which would save coutnless lives?

I will look for your views on this...it is a brutal cause and will never be easy, but here we are?

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Post by TerryRose on Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:55 am

"I am so pissed right now...reel me in, if I need reeling...but tell me how you feel? Should we take a stand and really bring it on? What are the choices? We keep saying, another harsh case, love to the family...and we mean it, but how do we change it? We cannot see the unknown, but we CAN try to change the laws of how we handle the known...which would save coutnless lives?"

First of all, Heike, you do not need to be reeled in---more people need to start having some righteous indignation such as you possess in order for things to start changing.

Maybe we could start a separate thread, entitled "What can we do to help?" or the like where members can post ongoing petitions, news of new and old organizations that need our support, etc. I can name a few that have been helping to stem the tide. There has been some progress in the last few decades, such as the Amber alert, various societies and organizations, ICAC (Don't doubt for a moment that child pornography isn't heavily involved in crimes against children, from abuse, abduction, murder, rape, all the way down to advocating these crimes and mentally leading perverts to go out and commit these crimes). I try to cheer on anyone who speaks out against the crimes against children and I try to cheer on LE when they go after the perpetrators---it is the only small thing I am capable of doing. JVM has earned my respect for her rants about the "war against women and children" for instance.

Unfortunately, though we recently have new law enforcement groups going after these criminals, the formation of these groups has not kept pace with the mushrooming number of these crimes.
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Post by Nama on Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:20 am

California's practice of shredding the parole files of sex offenders one year after parole is served is now on hold because of the slaying of Poway teen Chelsea King.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger Tuesday ordered an immediate halt in the implementation of the state's current parole record policy.


The order followed a report by The San Diego Union-Tribune that the state Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation had destroyed all of the field files related to the supervision of John Albert Gardner III.

Gardner - a registered sex offender who attacked a 13-year-old girl in 2000 - is charged with raping and murdering 17-year-old Chelsea late last month.

"The current practice of not keeping information on sex offenders in California is unacceptable," Schwarzenegger said in a statement. "It is in the best interest of public safety to retain all information on these individuals and to make as much information as possible available and transparent."

Gardner, 30, served five years of a six-year sentenced for attacking a neighbor girl while living with his mother in 2000. He was not under supervision when he allegedly attacked Chelsea Feb. 25 as she was jogging near Lake Hodges.

In addition to murder and rape charges related to Chelsea's death, Gardner is charged with attacking a young jogger in the same area in late December. In that case, the young woman elbowed her attacker and ran away.

Local authorities have said Gardner is also the focus of the investigation into the slaying of Amber Dubois of Escondido. Amber was 14 when she disappeared just over a year ago while walking to school. Her body was found Saturday in the Pala area.

Authorities in Riverside County have said they are looking into whether Gardner was connected to an attempted abduction of a young girl in Lake Elsinore last October. At the time, Gardner lived in the area.

He was staying in Escondido when Amber disappeared and in Rancho Bernardo when Chelsea went missing.

Gardner could face the death penalty if convicted in Chelsea's death. A preliminary hearing is set for Aug. 4.

http://www.lajollalight.com/news/266872-state-halts-policy-of-shedding-parole-files

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Post by CritterFan1 on Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:23 am

Unacceptable does not even begin to describe California's treatment (or lack of) of sex offenders. How many lives has this practice caused?
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Bravo, Arnold!
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TerryRose wrote:Bravo, Arnold!
You Go Girl :me to: I agree
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Post by Guest on Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:08 am

To all of you wanting to help. Megan's law is one of the laws that we have to protect our kids. Problem is these laws are made and then not funded to be properly enforced. LE needs to have funding to go after sex offenders that have been released. I have heard it over and over again from LE that there is no money to do stake outs etc. Amber's parents had to do their own. I know the feeling I had to do the same thing with a known sex predator. I did not give up until LE arrested him and made him leave where he was not registered to live. I will start a thread called "What can we do to help". That is a great idea.
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Post by Heike on Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:25 am

Thank you, Terry Rose, Lindamarie! xoxo

I would like to see the SO's serving sentences that reflect their tremendous ongoing danger to society...somehow it seems that this is not being understood adn I cannot fathom why! We had the same kind fo situation with the Shasta & Dylan Groene (sp?) case...and how often does it happen without being so high profile?

Blessings to Amber & Chelsea's families!

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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:05 pm

Thank you, Linda Marie, for starting the above thread!! You are awesome!!! :cheers:

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Mother leads push for one-strike law

When Karen Doll-Murphy learned that convicted sex offender John Albert Gardner III was linked by police to the disappearance of Chelsea King, she got angry. Then she got busy.

The Escondido life coach and mother of two created a Facebook page called "Support One Strike Law for Sex Offenders," with the goal of lobbying legislators to pass a law that would put convicted sexual predators away forever.

Gardner, charged with murder and rape or attempted rape in the death of 17-year-old Chelsea, a Poway High School senior, served five years in prison for a 2000 attack on a 13-year-old girl in Rancho Bernardo.

Escondido police said he is also "a focus" in the investigation of the death of 14-year-old Amber Dubois, whose remains were discovered off a dirt road in Pala on March 6, more than a year after she had gone missing while walking to Escondido High School.

"This spurred from what happened to Chelsea King and now Amber," Doll-Murphy said. "This is an emotional issue. I go from fear to rage. For me, that was just the final straw. That was the tipping point. This guy should never have been out to offend again."

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Sign this petition-One strike You're Out

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Child Molestation, One Strike Your Out!
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Child molesters, Child pornographers, and their customers, and child abusers, have been a Blight on society, and a threat to our children long enough. We the undersigned ask that our Government of these United States amend the law as related to child molestation, child pornography, and child abuse, these criminals have violated the Human rights of their victims, and their civil rights. They have injured these children for the rest of their lives, in many if not all cases. We ask, No we demand that the laws be changed to permanently remove them from society. We ask :

* 1) that since they have violated the civil and human rights of the most innocent and vulnerable of us our children that it is only fair that their civil and human rights be removed immediatly upon conviction.
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Post by TerryRose on Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:21 pm

I signed it and it posted, but I question the deadline listed at 2002. And it was to Hastert as speaker of the house?----It is quite dated so I wonder if it is still viable or not.
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Post by charminglane on Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:23 pm

I signed the petition.

But PLEASE will someone change the header to read "One strike YOU'RE out"?
I almost didn't sign it because it is hard to take seriously when the title is wrong. I fully believe in the message.
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Post by Wrapitup on Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:37 pm

Welcome, easyout!!!!!!!!!

And, thanks for your posts. Is there a way to find out if this petition is still effective due to the date and the former speaker of the house listed?

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Post by charminglane on Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:38 pm

Just thinking about Amber. I was in San Diego last year for my birthday when she was found.
God bless you Amber.
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