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Post by lisette Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:17 am

JA made some good points...Sims is back up.

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Post by lisette Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:20 am

They are through with Dr. Logan...Recess until 1:30. JP: Who's the next witness? Sidebar.
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Post by lisette Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:21 am

KC looks worried...
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Post by Lilone Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:26 pm

I'm just tuning in, so be patient with me. Bozo doesn't want anyone to know who he's calling next? I'm telling you what, that man is Drama in the flesh...
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Post by lisette Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:52 pm

Just got here...What's going on? Why are they at sidebar?
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Post by lisette Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:53 pm

Boy, KC is really concentrating on what's going on at the sidebar.
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Post by Lilone Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:55 pm

I'm babysitting the twins, and missed it. They had been arguing about an issue that has never been presented to a Frye hearing before, but I'm missing a lot of it. It's very difficult to hear.
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Post by lisette Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:56 pm

Bozo just left with the young law clerk of CM's.
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Post by lisette Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:57 pm

Oh, no...This is some witness over the phone...Anybody know who it is? I can't hear him.
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Post by artgal16 Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:58 pm

Im completely lost -Ill have to replay them again.
Casey looks like she got up on the wrong side of the jail!
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Post by lisette Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:59 pm

Oh, this is Dr. Hall...Isn't he the one who is disputing the root-growth expert?
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Post by Lilone Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:00 pm

For crying out loud... I hope everyone in the courtroom can hear what he's saying.
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Post by lisette Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:01 pm

Oh, this is the state's expert..Defense is saying that his opinions were based on photos, not actual botanical material.
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Post by lisette Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:03 pm

I think they are trying to say that photos can be misleading.
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Post by lisette Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:08 pm

Oh, TruTv has caption so you can read what he is saying.
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Post by Lilone Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:10 pm

If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all. Our cable is having some troubles and trutv is one of the stations we cannot get.
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Post by lisette Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:13 pm

Sims is looking at her watch...JP must have given her a time limit to examine this witness.
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Post by lisette Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:15 pm

KC, they're talking about the plants that grew through the bag that you threw Caylee away in..How does that feel, Mother of the Year?
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Post by lisette Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:16 pm

It looks like the courts could use the same type of technology that TruTv is using for their court reporting...
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Post by lisette Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:16 pm

TruTv just went to a commercial, so I have no idea what he is saying...
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Post by lisette Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:18 pm

Hey, I can hear him now on myfoxorlando.com!
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Post by lisette Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:21 pm

JP must have her on a tight leash...She just said, "I'm almost done."
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Post by lisette Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:26 pm

JA is not cross-examining..Going to stand on Dr. Hall's depo.
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Post by lisette Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:27 pm

Next witness is Dr. Bock...She is the one disputing Dr. Hall's opinions on root-growth. She is testifyin via phone line.
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Post by lisette Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:28 pm

Gotta go get my son's birthday dinner ready...will watch rest later, I hope, if it's on somewhere...
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Post by Lilone Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:13 pm

Who is Cindy sitting with? I see that woman with her a lot.

Do you think Jose ever got a clue as to what Judge Perry was asking him about objecting to state's witness? I think he explained it about 6 times...

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:16 pm

Court is in recess until 2:40 CT.
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Post by Nama Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:22 pm

Videos of the hearing are already up on Youtube for anyone that missed them today. Here is #1.....the rest are there, too.

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:36 pm

Closing arguments for the Fry hearings are taken place.
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Post by artgal16 Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:40 pm

JP sat up when Jeff Ashton started his summation- he leaned back in his chair when Baezzzzz droned on!
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Post by artgal16 Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:23 pm

Bill Sheaffers interview after court today:

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Post by lisette Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:42 pm

Mental Health Experts Deposed Thursday In Case

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Prosecutors in the case against Casey Anthony questioned two mental health experts under oath Thursday...
In court filings, her defense said they want the two to testify to rebut allegations about Anthony's so-called "consciousness of guilt."
The defense claims the psychiatrists will help them explain Anthony's behavior during the time when prosecutors claim she lied to her families and investigators...

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Sounds like a way to explain KC's behavior without her having to get on the stand and be cross-examined...Letting the psychiatrists explain it. Doubt if JA and LDB are going to let this happen without a fight.
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Post by Wrapitup Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:51 pm

Posted: 6:00 pm EDT April 7, 2011
Updated: 7:34 pm EDT April 7, 2011

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony could try to influence the jury at her trial even if she doesn't testify.
SLIDESHOW: The Many Looks Of Casey In Court
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BILL SHEAFFER: Analysis Of Casey's Appearance
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In the months since Casey has been in jail, her hair has grown much longer and her clothes have run the gamut, from slim and trim to baggy and disheveled.

But WFTV learned that could all change. Casey could look very different next month.
WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer says the defense is probably spending hours crafting an image for Casey to present to the jury from day one, and it might be a whole, new Casey.

Casey Anthony has looked drawn and disheveled in court, like she did at Wednesday's hearing; she's been in a red v-neck sweater and a pastel turtleneck; she's donned the librarian look, topped off with a tightly wound bun; and she's had matching outfits with her attorney.

Casey's demeanor Thursday seemed as gray and drab as her outfit, but her lawyers bring her clothes to court every day.

"She could've had an off day or it could have been orchestrated, where Mr. Baez was trying to underscore a theme," Sheaffer said (watch full interview). "This is a young woman whose life is hanging in the balance. He could've attempted to subtly influence the judge."

Sheaffer expects the defense is floating different images and that the public could see a reinvented Casey at trial, a young mother, conservative in dress and manner, bereaved, worried.

"You ain't goin' to a party. You ain't goin' to the prom. You are on trial for the first-degree murder of your child," Sheaffer explained.

The state commission that oversees the tax money paying Casey's legal expenses has not received any bills for image consulting and would object if it did. Sheaffer says she should appear interested, which might be why she takes so many notes. They could be working with her for hours on controlling her reactions, including laughing too much.

"Every movement, every facial gesture is going to be studied by that jury," Sheaffer said.

Sheaffer says the image Casey presents will have to be a consistent one, otherwise the jury might see it as nothing more than an act to portray herself as something she should be, but isn't.

Meanwhile, prosecutors deposed two defense doctors Thursday.

Dr. Jeffrey Danziger, a psychiatrist, was recently listed by the defense, along with another Florida doctor, who specializes in post traumatic stress disorder, to testify about Casey's state of mind.

Prosecutors will tell the judge Friday whether they object to the new witnesses and whether they want their own experts to examine Casey.

Also Friday, Casey and her defense team will be back in court at 9:00am to fight to throw more critical evidence out of the case. That includes the heart sticker found with Caylee's remains and a stain in Casey's trunk. WFTV.com will have live video of the full hearing and you can join our live-blog at our Casey Anthony section.

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Post by Wrapitup Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:56 pm

Posted: 5:22 am EDT April 6, 2011
Updated: 8:26 am EDT April 7, 2011

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony and her defense team were in court Wednesday and continued their fight to get key evidence tossed out.

CASEY WALKS IN: See Images | Raw Video
CASEY HEARING 4/06: Pt. 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12
BILL SHEAFFER: Analysis Of Evidence Hearing
SLIDESHOW: Images Of Key Players
VIDEO REPORT: Casey Back In Court

Casey walked into the courtroom around 8:55am (see images | raw video), wearing a plaid shirt with a grey sweater over it, a pair of khakis, and socks with flats. Her hair was pulled into a very long pony tail, that she began twirling after sitting down at the defense table.

Things, though, got off on the wrong foot for the defense, and Judge Belvin Perry fought to keep lawyers on track.

No one from the defense team informed the court they would need a video conference set up for a defense witness. So, Judge Belvin Perry put the court in a 30-minute recess to set up the equipment. The court resumed at 9:30am.

Both sides debated all day about Casey's car that her mother, Cindy Anthony, said during a 911 call, smelled like there had been a dead body in it.

"And it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car," Cindy said during the 911 call.

But Cindy's story would soon change outside the courthouse after Casey became a murder suspect.

"There was a bag of pizza for what, 12 days in the back of the car full of maggots. It stunk so bad you know how hot it's been," Cindy said while talking to reporters outside the courthouse.

Casey's lawyers tried to convince Judge Perry that the air tests done from the trunk of her car, which prosecutors want to use as evidence that Caylee's dead body was inside, are scientifically unreliable.

"My opinion is that it's impossible to say, at this point, whether it's valid or not," said defense expert Barry Logan.

But during the prosecutor's cross examination, Logan admitted to never having done that type of air testing himself and that he was basing his opinion on things he had read.

"Your lab does not perform that type of analysis on air samples does it?" asked prosecutor Jeff Ashton.

"No," Logan replied.

The question for Judge Belvin Perry is whether a machine can essentially smell where a dead body has been.

While the gas chromatograph has been used to detect plenty of airborne evidence in the past, this case would be the first time evidence of human decomposition would be gleaned from air.
Defense attorneys argue it's too new to used in a death penalty case.

"Although the gas chromatograph is well characterized and is used in a lot of different tests, in thousands of laboratories, when we set up a test for a new substance, we're changing the conditions we're changing the way in which the sample is prepared.

We're changing the way the results are interpreted," Logan said.

Casey is accused of murdering her daughter, Caylee Anthony, hiding her body in her trunk and then dumping it in the woods near their house on Suburban Drive.

WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said that after listening to all the testimony and cross examination, he believes prosecutors now have the edge in convincing Judge Perry to allow the ground-breaking air test evidence, which comes from research scientist Dr. Arpad Vass, from the Oak Ridge Laboratories.

"The prosecutor will show there's no debate in the scientific community that Dr. Vass's methodology and findings are not generally accepted," Sheaffer said.

Sheaffer said the evidence also has a better chance of coming in because it's not the only evidence that Caylee's body was in the trunk. Casey's family and cadaver dogs also indicated that there may have been a body in the trunk.

Also on Wednesday, there was a major concern that the case against Casey could be delayed because the courts are out of money.

However, an emergency loan that was ordered by Governor Rick Scott, will keep them open.

Wednesday's hearing was underway in courtroom 19 D when Judge Perry got the news that an emergency loan was on its way from Tallahassee; $19.5 million to keep the courts running through the end of May.

"I'm very happy to report the people of Florida will have a functioning court system," Perry stated in a news conference.

On Tuesday, Perry warned the courts would have had to shut down for several days in April and possibly two weeks in May, when the most high-profile case in the county's history is expected to start.

"It's tough. But there is light at the end of the tunnel," Perry said.

Judge Perry is expected to make a written ruling sometime later this week or next week.

Casey's trial starts on May 9.

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Post by lisette Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:01 pm

Status hearing Friday, Apr. 8, at 9:00 a.m. They will be dealing with the motions about the stain in the trunk and the heart sticker. Also, may finish up business from the Frye hearing on Apr. 6. There may be some discussion of the two mental health witnesses that the state deposed today (Thurs.)
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Post by jeanne1807 Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:26 am



I haven't been following this thread too closely but on this video at about the 3;15 mark look at Caseys left hand. Imagine that. Also watch Baez stick his tongue out at the camera.

These two deserve each other. Imagine this in a murder one murder case.

If this was previously posted I apologize. I am Jeanne come lately on this one.
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Post by Praying For Faith Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:37 am

That is on purpose. Not a natural position at all. JMO!

They are just having a good time aren't they.

Shame, Shame, Shame. angry

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Post by cherylz Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:31 am

Do you believe her. Laughing and then flipping off the system. What a piece of trash. WTF
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Post by Guest Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:26 am

Jeanne I hope you will follow this thread more often. We have all waited so long for Caylee Anthony to get justice. Thanks for reminding me of the status hearing this morning.
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Post by jeanne1807 Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:35 am

cherylz wrote:Do you believe her. Laughing and then flipping off the system. What a piece of trash. WTF

I honestly believe if one potential jury member see that little clip all of the money and all of the experts will be down the toilet.

How foolish of them to act and participate in something so disrespectful in a court of law.

I truly believe our society has reached a new low with the Cummings, Anthonys and Dunns of this world.
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Post by lisette Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:26 am

Just got here...Sims is arguing the motion on the unreliability of the death band on the hair testimony, saying that Karen Lowe from the FBI was not qualified to make that determination.
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Post by lisette Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:33 am

JA looks like he is getting very irritated...
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Post by lisette Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:36 am

Bozo is not there...just Sims and CM that I can see. KC has on her conservative plaid shirt today, but no sweater over it.
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Post by lisette Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:40 am

JA's response was brief and to-the-point. Sims is responding, trying to use a case that does not apply..CM is trying to help, JA interrupted, JP said, "One lawyer at a time!"
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Post by lisette Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:41 am

Bozo is here now...JP cut Sims off and said "Let's move to the next motion."
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Post by Guest Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:43 am

They are disputing the stain evidence in the trunk now.
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Post by lisette Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:47 am

JP is telling them that he doesn't want any editorializing or interruptions...All he wants to hear are arguments. He cut Bozo off when he started to laughingly comment on something. JP is seriously down to business today!
Bozo is arguing the motion about the stain in the trunk of the car. He is saying that the stain very well could have come from the "very wet" garbage or even from the gas cans. He says that there is NO proof that the stain had biological components.
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Post by lisette Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:50 am

Bozo says that the stain does not resemble a child in the fetal position and that allegation has caused hysteria...
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Post by lisette Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:55 am

JP is asking questions about the stain...Bozo is attempting to answer, stumbling around as usual.
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Post by lisette Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:00 am

From JP's questions, I'm thinking that he might exclude the stain...Thinking that it could have been caused by other things.
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Post by Guest Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:03 am

NO proof that the stain had biological components.
Per Baez. The State has evidence from an expert declaring that the blue light only picks up biological components. The stain was negative for DNA etc.
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