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Post by truthbtold Tue May 10, 2011 10:05 pm

charminglane wrote:Wouldn't the body language expert be Dr. Lillian Glass?

Exactly. They specifically name the person they are considering suing, but they don't even know what he does. More craziness and diversion, imo...

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Post by gnreed Tue May 10, 2011 10:29 pm

I believe this would be great. Billie and her slick attorney do not realize the support Peter Hyatt would receive.
Maybe the publicity would result in an investigative reporter covering the case.
For someone who loves the camera, you would think John Young would trim the eyebrows instead of having one line straight across. Just saying....

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Post by Wrapitup Tue May 10, 2011 10:42 pm

Too funny, gnreed!!
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Post by truthbtold Tue May 10, 2011 10:48 pm

gnreed wrote:I believe this would be great. Billie and her slick attorney do not realize the support Peter Hyatt would receive.
Maybe the publicity would result in an investigative reporter covering the case.
For someone who loves the camera, you would think John Young would trim the eyebrows instead of having one line straight across. Just saying....

Be careful gnreed, there might be a very slight open space breaking up the unibrow; you wouldn't want to be accused of slander or anything. Sarcasm

I agree with you. It would be great if Mr. Young actually pursued a civil suit. Billie Jean would have to testify about all of the statements and the analysis in court. It won't happen, of course. Mr. Young is looking pretty foolish in this case, but he has strong credentials. No way in hell he's going to file a suit that would require Billie to get on the stand and testify about her statements in this ongoing criminal investigation. I'm giving Mr. Young credit for having at least as much legal acumen as Terri Horman and her lawyer. I hope Mr. Young proves me wrong about that. I would love to see this civil suit filed (and, I agree, it could actually attract an investigative reporter with some teeth). JMO...
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Post by Boston_Lady Wed May 11, 2011 11:11 am

lol gnreed and TBT !!! you rock
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Post by charminglane Wed May 11, 2011 12:17 pm

Then we can ASSume you have no unibrow, gnreed?

I, too, think a slander suit by Lil Bit would raise some hackles in the journalism/investigative reporter area.

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Post by gnreed Wed May 11, 2011 2:01 pm

You would be right. I made sure this morning I did NOT have a unibrow.

Funny how BD is now an expert on people who lie.

Just curious if any of you still believe LE will make an arrest on the Child porn. I am having doubts. Others have been arrested alot sooner with alot less images than what SA is accussed of having.

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Post by raine1953 Wed May 11, 2011 3:28 pm

gnreed wrote:You would be right. I made sure this morning I did NOT have a unibrow. Thank Heaven for small favors!

Funny how BD is now an expert on people who lie.

Just curious if any of you still believe LE will make an arrest on the Child porn. I am having doubts. Others have been alot sooner with alot less images than what SA is accussed of having.
I'm seriously doubting that an arrest will be made regarding the child porn or anything at this point. I'd love to know if TR's or the FBI are still in the loop, I'm doubting it because I find it hard to believe this case seems to be stagnating if they are involved. JMOO.
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Post by Wrapitup Wed May 11, 2011 3:39 pm

I agree I agree I agree
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Post by truthbtold Wed May 11, 2011 4:23 pm

I think it feels like a long time in this case because Billie talked (and revealed, imo) so much more than most POIs in the first 3 months. We knew a lot about Hailey's home life, inconsistencies and flat out lies by Shawn and Billie, illegal drugs... As a result,Imo, it was much easier to quickly form an opinion about who was likely responsible in this case than usual. Based on experience following missing person's cases, 4.5 months without a related arrest of a suspect or POI is not a long time. But, I agree, it feels like forever. I think LE has a lot of circumstantial evidence against Shawn and/or Billie, and they are watching and hoping for a body or new evidence to make the case air tight.

Regarding the child porn, I don't know what to think. At this point, we know there was A LOT of deviant porn. I'm starting to think that what appeared to be some images of child porn may be "barely legal" porn. Bestiality, believe it or not, is not typically illegal unless a specific cruelty or harm to the animal can be proven (based on earlier research on Texas bestiality porn laws).

P.s. Regarding the bestiality, I tend to disagree with Peter Hyatt's opinion that the bestiality porn involved "stomping" small animals to death. I know that sickening fetish exists, but I think LE would have loved to release that gem to the public, if it were true.

JMO...
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Post by Boston_Lady Thu May 12, 2011 12:39 pm

:woot: Here is your daily FB rumor :cheering:

Texas Rangers were spotted meeting with LE yesterday. One local believes that something "HUGE" is going to happen. But, maybe not today.

Your FB liason - BL :muahaha:
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Post by Wrapitup Thu May 12, 2011 1:02 pm

Thanks, B_L! Do you have a link please??
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Post by Boston_Lady Thu May 12, 2011 2:32 pm

Sure.. it's been discussed on almost every Hailey FB page. Here is one. The entry is about a third way down the page.

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Texas Rangers were in Colorado City for a meeting with other law enforcement entities today. Let's pray there is something in the works! (C)
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Melissa Couch Gooch I have it from a great source that yes.... something HUGE is in the works!! Keeping fingers crossed!!
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Post by jeanne1807 Thu May 12, 2011 2:42 pm

Boston_Lady wrote::woot: Here is your daily FB rumor :cheering:

Texas Rangers were spotted meeting with LE yesterday. One local believes that something "HUGE" is going to happen. But, maybe not today.

Your FB liason - BL :muahaha:

I love your reporting of the locals rumors. That is how we have found out a lot about this crew. Keep it coming.
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Post by truthbtold Thu May 12, 2011 5:30 pm

Thanks Boston_Lady - appreciate the updates!!
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Post by Boston_Lady Thu May 12, 2011 9:44 pm

I just wish it would be good news. I just noticed that Clint posted on Hailey Dunn Open Discussion group. He said when he spoke with Billie on the phone, he could hear Shawn "talking shit" in the background.

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I don't know how he restrains himself.
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Post by truthbtold Thu May 12, 2011 11:02 pm

Boston_Lady wrote:I just wish it would be good news. I just noticed that Clint posted on Hailey Dunn Open Discussion group. He said when he spoke with Billie on the phone, he could hear Shawn "talking shit" in the background.

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I don't know how he restrains himself.

Surely Clint must have misheard. Mr. Young assures us that he and his client are avoiding contact with Shawn Adkins to avoid the appearance of impropriety. So, there's no way Billie could be hanging out with Shawn. Sarcasm
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Post by charminglane Fri May 13, 2011 10:26 pm

My fingers are crossed regarding the child porn.

SA is a freak--if child porn were to be accessible to him, I believe he would look and keep a "token" in a file. It would be too tempting for him to not "go there."

With all the images available to him (and these are the ones he kept), in all of the surfing, dealing with degenerate traders, etc., I believe there is no way he never came across any that he would not keep.

Thanks, gnreed. One less forehead manscape to worry about. umno
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Post by gnreed Sun May 15, 2011 11:10 am

I was in CC early this morning and the only vehicle at the BD residence was the Red Sports Car. I ran the plate number and it is still registered to the drug dealer from Weatherford, Texas.
If I remember correctly, Billie said this car was bought for her son awhile back. It appears to be taking some time for the registration to be updated. Or maybe she wasn't telling the truth again.
Every window on the house has one of the new flyers taped to them. Kind of an odd sight.
BD or SA were not seen. Hopefully the driver of the red car is feeding and watering the dog that is chained to a tree in the back yard.

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Post by charminglane Sun May 15, 2011 1:02 pm

If they don't know you by facial recognition, I would go and try to give that dog some food and water.
Can't hurt.
My old boyfriend took a bolt cutter and took home a chained up and starving rottweiler. He just couldn't take watching the poor thing every day. He turned out to be the greatest dog.
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Post by Wrapitup Sun May 15, 2011 3:15 pm

You would think Billie would not want that red car even close to her home considering who it's registered to. She has got to be one of the dumbest people in the world!

That Poor Dog!!!
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Post by Boston_Lady Sun May 15, 2011 5:00 pm

And the FB saga continues to spin. The WOTS group (Word On The Street) has many locals on their page and even Clint has posted.

It was reported that BJD spent most of the day Thursday at the Federal Courthouse with the Feds.

It was also reported that Shawn no longer has an attorney. Evidently Shawn was taken to Dallas to take private polygraphs and he failed, 7 times. (Not sure if this is believable. If it were private, how do they know) But, supposedly his Attorney resigned. ** He was on his second attorney so maybe this was the first attorney who quit?

Something is going on with Clint & Naomi. He reportedly left her Friday nite but because of Chloe he came back.

The last thing is the HDUD FB group (Hailey Dunn Update & Discussion) were praising Billie Jean for "working her ass off" getting the Girl Scouts of America to agree to hand out Hailey posters and flyers. She had to call alllllllllll the way up to New York to get this accomplished. Whew. Such work! And then the H-DUD's fanned out to other FB pages to share this info and at the same time admonish all groups to PLEASE stop denigrating BJD as she worked so hard and if any of the Girl Scouts (impossible the page is restricted to 18 & older) and/or their parents and GS leaders read all of this, they would lose the deal. They worked so hard after having so many doors closed in their faces and this was the ONLY national coverage they could get. (I guess they forgot about Nancy Grace, billboards, CNN/Fox running the stories) And when they received the response that this was BS (not GS) they became enraged and upset. lol sorry, this was just so ridiculous.

Today it turns out that Billie Jean had nothing to do with this deal. over reaction Imagine that! It was Cindy Glasco who is married to Brian Glasco (the pot smoking dude aka Clint's half brother). Are you following all of this? lol I've never seen so many "family" members.

One has to wonder why they are all about getting these flyers and posters out to the country after 5 months? Why not right from the beginning? Why did Billie say in her interview that the searchers had covered most of the area and this was all they were left to do. Turns out they haven't come close to covering all of the search area. And someone is threatening to sue one of the searchers. They haven't named the person but I'm guessing it might be Patricia Trichel.

Speaking of searchers, supposedly Stephanie Boyd was charged with breaking and entering/stealing items while searching. She can no longer search. And isn't it Stephanie Boyd who has the brother in jail for Child Porn? And she was one of the first searchers for Hailey. Such a mess!!

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Post by jeanne1807 Sun May 15, 2011 5:31 pm

BostonLady I think I will just read your reports. I have read over there and it just goes on and on. You are doing a great job and I thank you for keeping us up on "Disfunction Junction".

I swear you could not make this stuff up. No wonder people with time on their hands find this to be obsessive.

Anyway thanks for being our eyes and ears on little Hailey. When all is said and done..I think she is really gone.
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Post by Boston_Lady Sun May 15, 2011 6:07 pm

Oh boy... seems the big secret is that Patricia Trichel is sleeping with one of the married male searchers. la la la

And one of the FB members asked why she is pawning things and living in a trailer park if she allegedly has so much money from the settlement.

If this were a book, it would have to be a trilogy. There is so much crap that each of the characters would need their own book!

Time for me to go get ready for the week. I might even try to knit for a little bit! rocking smile
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Post by Nama Sun May 15, 2011 6:14 pm

WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is ERIC GRIMES, A REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER, who was just released from prison after serving 7 years for sex crimes involving a 12-year-old girl, was at Billie Dunn's house, along with her brother Del Ostrander, the night Hailey was last seen by her brother David Dunn, December 26, 2010.

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Post by mommyof3kids Sun May 15, 2011 7:31 pm

If this is seriously true BJ, then omg I hope to god this was or now IS being looked into by LE. I have ALWAYS been curious about the K9 dogs following HL's scent to that motel! That has ALWAYS bugged me!!!
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Post by gnreed Sun May 15, 2011 8:05 pm

It should certainly be checked into by LE but I am not sure why this would just now come out. You would think BD and SA would be the first to tell this information from day one.


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PC



Court Provisions



Court Provision
REGISTERED AS A SEX OFFENDER Code Active
Y Court Provision Description
SUBJECT IS REQUIRED TO REGISTER AS A SEX OFFENDER.



Custody



Date of Offense
Aug 19 2003 Agency Identifier
DEPT OF CRIM JUST MIDDLETON UNIT County of Commitment
MITCHELL Custody Status Starting Date
Jul 19 2004
Status Supervision
RECEIVED Status Supervision Literal
TX221015C 01243813 Agency Receiving Custody Upon Release

none found Paroled Until Date

Sentence Expiration Date
Nov 21 2010 Custody Entry ID No.
2380204 Tracking Number
0056404514



Date of Offense
Jul 19 2004 Agency Identifier
DEPT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE HUNTSVILLE County of Commitment
MITCHELL Custody Status Starting Date
Nov 12 2010
Status Supervision
DISCHARGE SEX OFFENDER Status Supervision Literal
TX236065C 01243813 Agency Receiving Custody Upon Release

none found Paroled Until Date

Sentence Expiration Date
Nov 21 2010 Custody Entry ID No.
3253037 Tracking Number
0056404514



Date of Offense
Nov 3 2002 Agency Identifier
DEPT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE HUNTSVILLE County of Commitment
MITCHELL Custody Status Starting Date
Nov 19 2010
Status Supervision
DISCHARGED Status Supervision Literal
TX236065C 01243813 Agency Receiving Custody Upon Release

none found Paroled Until Date

Sentence Expiration Date
Nov 21 2010 Custody Entry ID No.
3262001 Tracking Number
0056404514




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Post by charminglane Sun May 15, 2011 8:24 pm

gnreed~

So how many convictions does this Grimes guy have?
I have a hard time understanding the reports.
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Post by gnreed Sun May 15, 2011 8:31 pm

I am working on trying to understand it as well. He appears to have two, maybe more. I am thinking he received probation on the first one then sentenced to prison after being charged for the second.

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Post by charminglane Sun May 15, 2011 8:31 pm

Thank you!
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Post by charminglane Sun May 15, 2011 8:34 pm

So this is supposedly Stephanie Boyd's bro?
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Post by charminglane Sun May 15, 2011 8:43 pm

Grimes has a "Moe."
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Post by gnreed Sun May 15, 2011 8:54 pm

I have a feeling this could all be connected to a child porn ring. May be bigger than expected and the reason it is taking so long for arrests.

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Post by charminglane Sun May 15, 2011 9:24 pm

Exactly.
There could also be images of children from out of this country that were in SA's possession and need to be tracked.
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Post by Nama Sun May 15, 2011 9:41 pm

charminglane wrote:So this is supposedly Stephanie Boyd's bro?
No that person (Facebook quote) isn't Stephanie's brother.

Barron Lynn Boyd, Jr., 31, of Colorado City, Texas, was sentenced this morning by U.S. District Judge Sam R. Cummings to 10 years in prison following his guilty plea in December to possessing child pornography. Judge Cummings also ordered that Boyd serve a 25 year term of supervised release and register as a sex offender. Boyd, who has been on bond, was taken into custody following the hearing.

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Post by Boston_Lady Sun May 15, 2011 9:43 pm

Info on Grimes. Remember when Billie said that she failed the polygraph, Shawn failed and her brother failed? At that times she also said "Some other guy I don't know had to take the lie detector test" It is allegedly this guy, Grimes. And he passed allegedly.

So I think that tells us that Billie was lying about the quiet evening on the 26th. If her brother Del and this guy dropped by, it wasn't just the 4 of them.

Also WOTS is reporting that David was "ordered" out of the house at 9pm on the 26th. This is different than David went out at 9pm. They are also reporting that something happened between 1am and 5am. They seem to have some inside info about all of this.

I can't say anything other than this is coming from locals and they don't offer anything to back it up.

The other HUGE news is that allegedly CPS has been involved with Clint/Naomi and the kids. Clint did not pass a u.a. for drugs and he was told he had to leave the house or the children would be removed. This ties back to Clint leaving Naomi on Friday nite. Supposedly went back.

This is such a giant cluster f**k .
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Post by charminglane Sun May 15, 2011 9:47 pm

Yes, It really is a cluster!

I want to Thank you, Boston Lady. I truly appreciate you keeping us informed about what is being heard, said and written on FB.
I just don't need that nit picky aggravation and I applaud you for doing it for Hailey and us.
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Post by charminglane Sun May 15, 2011 9:48 pm

Thank you Britannica! (BJ)
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Post by Praying For Faith Sun May 15, 2011 11:19 pm

charminglane wrote:Yes, It really is a cluster!

I want to Thank you, Boston Lady. I truly appreciate you keeping us informed about what is being heard, said and written on FB.
I just don't need that nit picky aggravation and I applaud you for doing it for Hailey and us.

I agree with Charm. Thank you Boston Lady. I only read here on VH about Hailey. What a disaster her family is!!!!

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Post by gnreed Mon May 16, 2011 8:34 am

Hopefully this is true about CPS. If Clint continues to use illegal drugs, he should have to be away from his child. This fool never learns. Same as Billie. It's all about what makes me feel good and to heck with everything else.
After all these months, it still terrifies me to think about what Hailey went through. Someone needs to be arrested soon.

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Post by truthbtold Mon May 16, 2011 9:56 am

If this is true about this Grimes guy, it sure does officially contradict Billie's story about the 26th being a nice lazy family day with just the four of them.

If this is true about this Grimes guy, I wonder if he was at the New Year's Eve Party (or was a subject of conversation at the party). Billie and Shawn were under suspicion and had their phones confiscated by this point. I've always wondered if the NYE Party was a place where certain people in-the-know attempted to get their stories together. JMO...

Interested to see if this turns out to be fact or fiction...
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Post by jeanne1807 Mon May 16, 2011 6:24 pm

gnreed wrote:Hopefully this is true about CPS. If Clint continues to use illegal drugs, he should have to be away from his child. This fool never learns. Same as Billie. It's all about what makes me feel good and to heck with everything else.
After all these months, it still terrifies me to think about what Hailey went through. Someone needs to be arrested soon.

The first I heard of Clint Dunn I said "loser". Others said he was searching for his little girl. Give him a chance. He only smokes a little weed.

Man I saw through that loser from day one. Living with a girlfriend who just had his baby in her government subsudized housing. No job, bad back. Where is Hailey..who knows?

Clint knew what "his little girl" was living with. Hell I am in Indiana and I know. He knew and he did nothing. Why because he was a big loser and the state probably had to decide. Loser #1 or Loser #2. They chose Billie. I can hardly type this but Billie seemed like the better of the two. Imagine that. faint
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Post by charminglane Mon May 16, 2011 8:24 pm

John Young: And we continue to cooperate with law enforcement. I don’t want to paint the picture that we have an adverse relationship. There have been some roadblocks, but we obviously will continue to cooperate. We want our child home. We want Hailey home, and Billie will continue to cooperate fully with law enforcement.

Reporter: …any regrets over this time?

Billie Jean Dunn: I do, but things have played out this way for a reason, and I just really regret that people are more interested if I’m at the grocery store, rather than, I wish people would look for my baby as hard as they look for me.

Just going back over one of BJD's interviews.
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Post by truthbtold Mon May 16, 2011 9:33 pm

An update from Pete Kampfer today, 5/16. Nothing much new; they are waiting for something to make Hailey's case a slam dunk - body or something related to Shawn Adkins. Porn is still under investigation and will go to Grand Jury when the case is ready. Reward fund sits at 15k...

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Post by charminglane Mon May 16, 2011 11:00 pm

Gracias, tbt!
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Post by charminglane Mon May 16, 2011 11:21 pm

I am going to ASSume that BJD and SA might have internet access on their new phones-otherwise they have no computers.
gnreed--any reports of the two being spotted at the local library for computer usage? Or horror (comedy) movie rentals?
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Post by jeanne1807 Tue May 17, 2011 6:45 am

Honestly I think this will play out the say way Ron Cummings and Misty Croslin played out.

They will strut their stuff until LE has enough information to arrest them for either drugs or child porn.

Then that will be the end of them. Hailey may never be found but those two will be behind bars for a long, long time.

The wheels of justice move slowly but they do move.
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Post by gnreed Tue May 17, 2011 7:16 am

Charm,
I have not heard of any sightings at the library. If they are, I would imagine it may be in another city where they would be less likely to be recognized.
I believe BD is going out of her way to stay out of the public view, except for a TV interview now and then.
I am hoping for a a blow up between BD and SA so maybe one of them will slip up. Doubtful but still a glimmer of hope.

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Post by charminglane Tue May 17, 2011 7:45 am

Thanks!

I know it is disgusting, but if I lived down there I would have someone flirt with SA just to pizz BJD off on purpose. And I wouldn't stop.
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Post by truthbtold Tue May 17, 2011 11:50 am

charminglane wrote:Gracias, tbt!

Denada, Charm! Wish there was something new to report.

Where the heck is Hailey?....
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Post by charminglane Tue May 17, 2011 6:06 pm

Where is Hailey?
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