Casey Anthony Trial - The Aftermath

The opening statement defense attorney José Baez delivered during Casey Anthony's criminal trial continues to shadow the lawyer and haunt his client.

Lawyers attending a recent Orange County Bar Association forum titled "Lessons in Ethics & Professionalism From the Casey Anthony Trial" asked pointed questions about the controversial opening.

Two civil lawsuits filed against 25-year-old Anthony, meanwhile, ask whether she allowed untruths to be presented on her behalf and whether Baez gave false statements in his opening to the jury, court filings show. One expert who has followed the case said the issue might ultimately lead Anthony's camp to consider settlements in both ongoing civil suits.

Jurors ultimately acquitted Anthony of her most serious charges, including first-degree murder. She was convicted of lying to law enforcement. It's not clear whether the opening influenced the verdicts.

Anthony's initial claims that a nanny abducted her daughter, Caylee, have long since been exposed as lies, but many also doubt the truth of her lawyer's courtroom account of the child's death.

On May 24, Baez told jurors Anthony knew Caylee never went missing but had drowned in the family pool June 16, 2008. He also said Casey's father, George, knew of the drowning and had sexually abused Casey.

Legal experts agree such a defense could create reasonable doubt in jurors' minds. But the claims, for the most part, were not supported by evidence. The unkept promises apparently didn't matter to Anthony's jury.

Yet questions in the legal community linger: Was that opening ethical? And will the genesis of its unsupported claims ever be exposed in the lawsuits against Anthony?

'Within ethical boundaries'

Professor Amy Mashburn, who teaches professional responsibility and legal ethics at the University of Florida College of Law, fielded some of the sticky ethical questions offered up during last month's Orange County Bar session.

In a later interview, Mashburn said, "It's unlikely that we're ever going to know" whether an ethical violation occurred. What we do know, she said, is: Lawyers cannot make things up. They cannot allude to any matter at trial for which they don't have admissible supporting evidence. And they cannot offer false evidence.

But if at the time of his opening Baez believed his client would testify about the abuse and the drowning — even if he advised against her testifying — and if he believed he could effectively cross-examine her family members, then he could give that opening on firm ethical footing, Mashburn said.

If he knew Anthony would not testify and that he would have to support his claims largely through cross-examination of her family, which is what eventually happened, "that's more ethically problematic," Mashburn said.

Baez said he did not attend the ethics discussion here because he was invited to speak to a class at Harvard Law School that week. He said he could not address specific questions about his opening without Anthony's consent, but criticized those who question his words without knowing the facts he had at the time.

"Every single word we gave at openings and closings was completely aboveboard and within the ethical boundaries of an attorney," Baez said. "Everything that was said during the opening, we had a good-faith basis for."

Asked whether he expected Anthony to testify when he gave the opening, Baez offered a general statement he said holds true for all of his clients.

"It's a game-time decision [whether a client testifies]," Baez said. "That decision is not made until the end of the case, and the client makes it."

Because only Baez knows the information he had going into that opening, Mashburn said, "there's still some very basic things about this we don't know and won't ever know."

She also maintains it would have been a "really risky strategy" for Baez to make promises he knew he could never deliver, noting that juries usually hold that against an attorney.

Charles Rose, the professor of Excellence in Trial Advocacy at Stetson University College of Law, said most trial lawyers looking at the case never thought Anthony would testify. And if she told Baez the drowning and abuse stories, based on her history of lies, he had an obligation to fully investigate those accounts and find evidence to support them.

Rose said the story Baez gave at the opening "did not seem to be supported by the evidence presented."

We may never know

Though Baez may move on unscathed — he has picked up at least one more high-profile case recently — his opening statement appears more problematic for Anthony in the civil cases.

"It's going to be very difficult for her to walk away from the concessions he made in the opening," Mashburn said. "Clients are bound by admissions lawyers make on their behalf. She can't subsequently say, 'I believed there was a nanny.' "

That is likely why attorneys representing Zenaida Gonzalez want to again depose Anthony and have her answer questions about her initial claims that a nanny with the same name as Gonzalez's abducted Caylee.

A hearing last week had attorneys for Gonzalez asking the judge handling the case to compel Anthony to give full answers to their questions before Gonzalez is deposed. But the judge determined Gonzalez can be questioned first.

During her Oct. 8 deposition, Anthony — through her attorney — repeatedly invoked her Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination, relying on the ongoing appeal of her convictions. She also claimed attorney-client privilege several times.

Many of Gonzalez attorney John Morgan's questions focused on the Baez opening.

"Miss Anthony, in your criminal trial here in Orange County, you attorney stated that there was never, in fact, a Zenaida Gonzalez, a Zanny the Nanny or any such person. Did you hear that?" Morgan asked.

She gave no answer.

He later asked, "Was he [Baez] being truthful when he said that or was he lying to the court?"

Again, no answer.

Attorneys in the Texas EquuSearch lawsuit against Anthony asked in court papers, "Please identify every statement by Mr. Baez which was false." Anthony's team objected to those questions as well.

If Anthony's appeal runs its course, eventually she will be made to answer the inquiries and explain the opening, Rose said.

"If I was her civil lawyers… I would try to make all this go away before I was put in that position," Rose said.

Her legal team could reach settlements with Gonzalez and Texas EquuSearch, and presumably any monetary amounts could be based on her anticipated future earnings.

"At some point, there's going to be money made, a lot of money," said Rose, who still expects a Casey Anthony book deal and interviews.

But Rose doesn't think Anthony's version of what happened to her daughter will approach the truth.

"As long as she has a lawyer, it will not be unvarnished," Rose said. "It will be homogenized, and for Miss Anthony's benefit. We're not ever going to know what really happened."
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Thanks for this thread, Art!

I hope she or that jerk of an "attorney" have to OWN their words one day!!

Can you believe that third-rate ambulance chaser Baez has been asked to speak to Harvard Law School? This from a guy that couldnt pass the bar in how long? My god our standards have dropped horribly. The people who invited Baez have scraped the bottom of the barrel if they think Baez has anything to offer their students.

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Attorney Cheney Mason, well-known attorney who helped successfully argue the Casey Anthony case, was taken to the hospital Friday while attending a media conference in Daytona Beach.

Mason was one of the speakers at a panel on law and justice at the 17th annual Mass Comm Conference 2011. He was taken to Halifax Medical Center.

Mason joined Casey Anthony's defense team in 2010, and was with the case right up until the end. He recently announced that he was writing a book about the trial.

He is also currently defending former GOP Chairman Jim Greer in his corruption trial.

Cheney is a University of Florida graduate who has been practicing law in Florida since the 70s.

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Casey Anthony - Time Person of the Year?
Time magazine has listed candidates for Person of the Year.

The No. 4 candidate out of more than 30: Casey Anthony.

Yep, you read that right.

In July, Anthony was acquitted of murder in the 2008 death of her daughter, Caylee. “It was the first great trial of the social-media age,” writes John Cloud of Time.

Why does Anthony rate a mention for Person of the Year? Let’s go to the Time website:
“While Anthony has disappeared from tabloids for now, and we may never know what happened to Caylee, the sensational event forced us to take a close look at some difficult issues, from the role of the press in our justice system to the way female defendants are viewed.”

Readers can go to the Time website and vote on the Person of the Year candidates. Others on the list include Arab Youth Protesters, Rep. Michele Bachmann, Warren Buffett, Herman Cain, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, the late Steve Jobs, Kim Kardashian, Kate Middleton, Rupert Murdoch, President Barack Obama, former Gov. Mitt Romney and Charlie Sheen.

The early favorite: The 99 Percent protesters. Anthony comes in No. 7 in voting, ahead of Giffords and Buffett. But Time’s editors will make the final decision. The Person of the Year is named in the Dec. 26 issue, which hits newsstands on Dec. 16.

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This past year was a lurid one for American criminal trials: Michael Jackson’s anesthesia-happy doctor, the Connecticut home-invasion death-row duo, Cleveland’s “house of horrors” serial slayer, Arizona’s Baseline Killer. But no case so captured the country’s imagination or inflamed public opinion as the trial of Casey Anthony, the pretty Florida mother accused of murdering her toddler, Caylee.

Anthony’s story had all the hallmarks of a trial for the ages. It was grisly, full of macabre twists and turns. In July 2008 she called police to report her daughter missing. She claimed a nanny named “Zanny” had abducted the girl a month earlier—but Anthony’s abandoned car, found at an impound lot, stank of decomposing flesh and was infested with maggots. Police quickly discovered that Zanny was an elaborate fiction, as was Anthony’s purported job at Universal Studios. All the while, Casey insisted to her parents and to authorities that Caylee was still alive. The family issued tearful televised pleas for leads. Five months later, the baby’s remains were found in a trash bag, abandoned in the woods behind the Anthony home. Around Caylee’s mouth, someone had plastered a strip of duct tape with the imprint of a tiny heart.

The story also had a perfect villain in Casey. The young, single mother exhibited the telltale traits of a classic sociopath. The compulsive lying. The curious lack of emotion: during the weeks Caylee was missing, Casey partied with her new boyfriend, enrolled in a “hot body” contest, and got a tattoo that read Bella Vitae, or “beautiful life.” The grandiose self-worth: people close to Anthony told reporters that in the early days of the saga, the then-22-year-old was obsessed with media attention and spent time flirting with groupies on Facebook. The shallow affect: Casey smirked at inappropriate times in the courtroom and subjected her defense team to infantile temper tantrums. The public loved to hate her, and pronounced her guilty as charged long before the trial even began.

If Casey was the chief antagonist, the witness stand offered up a cast of side characters worthy of the strangest fiction. Behold Roy Kronk, a meter reader who first found Caylee’s tiny skeleton in the underbrush and whom the defense accused of moving the child’s remains in an effort to clinch reward money. Behold Casey’s brother, Lee, who painted a picture of deep family dysfunction when he disclosed that his parents refused to talk about his sister’s pregnancy until five days before her due date. Behold mother Cindy, whose dramatic 911 call about the stench of “a dead body in the damn car” riveted jurors and who seemed to waver between deep grief for her dead granddaughter and desperate attempts to save her own child—claiming, for example, that she had been the one to Google “chloroform” on the family computer, even though records placed her at work when the searches were performed.

The most polarizing figure, besides Casey herself, was the paterfamilias, George. Defense attorneys tarred the former police officer as a tyrant who had allegedly molested Casey and who harbored a secret mistress named “Krystal” (charges George vehemently denied). The defense even hinted that George or Lee might be Caylee’s real father, even though DNA tests had already excluded them. In the most incendiary postulation—one that was never backed up—the defense claimed Caylee had accidentally drowned in the grandparents’ pool and that George disposed of the body. Prosecutors countered that George was a good parent—jailhouse videos showed Casey praising her father’s character—and that George had been so distraught over the tragedy that he’d tried to take his own life.

In the end, the thing that made Casey Anthony’s trial so memorable was the sliver of doubt that allowed the jury to set her free. Unlike the Connecticut home-invasion killers or the Cleveland serial murderer, in this case no direct evidence—DNA or otherwise—definitively linked Anthony to the crime. True, circumstantial evidence seemed strong—cadaver dogs, hairs in the car trunk. But in the end, the jury just couldn’t convict. The real story of what happened to Caylee will be forever lost in the strange tangle of seeming half-truths and lies spun by George, Cindy, Lee, Casey—the whole Anthony lot.

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Casey Anthony: People couldn’t stop talking about the case
ABC, Caylee and Casey Anthony, Katie Couric — posted by halboedeker on December, 19 2011 8:22 AM

As 2011 rolls to a close, the Casey Anthony case will crop up in retrospectives.

Katie Couric made a spot for the Anthony trial in her two-hour ABC special last week. She explained the inclusion to Robin Roberts on “Good Morning America”: “We’re also gonna be talking about things that people couldn’t stop talking about, like Casey Anthony, for example. And the royal wedding, you know. Things that were really talked about around the watercooler, time and time again.”

How do you like that take on the story?

Anthony continues to generate headlines. There was speculation last week that a Los Angeles producer was shopping an Anthony interview for $500,000 to $750,000. There’s a hearing today as Texas EquuSearch seeks answers from Anthony about the search for her daughter, Caylee. In July, Anthony was acquitted of murder in her daughter’s 2008 death.

I realize some readers think we should move on, but the Anthony story is likely to be part of the Central Florida news menu for years to come. Many people keep talking about it because they realize that although Anthony won in court, they don’t want her to win in the public. They say she shouldn’t profit in any way about her daughter’s death, and they are determined to see she doesn’t.

Court cases do end, but the court of public opinion never closes.

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BY CLETUS P. STILLWATER, JR. DECEMBER - 16 - 2011

Since joining TMRzoo.com I have taken on a ton of responsibilities. Not only am I accountable for blogging, I also get lunches for the TMR executive staff and once in a while clean the monkey cages. Still my most cherished task her at TMR is making videos. Hell one day I hope to be a famous director like Steven Spielberg or Ron Howard, then I will make some real bank. I hear those guys make $30 or $40 bucks an hour!

You can see a bunch of my movies on the TMR Zoo YouTube page. They are cool videos but it is time for me to branch out a bit. I am thinking for my next picture I would like to shoot an action movie on location here in Yazoo, Mississippi. I can use my trailer for most of the interior scenes but seeing this is going to be an action film we will do a bit of shooting out at Panther Swamp.

I have a pretty good script already that the guy in the next trailer wrote. He can pump out the pages like hellfire even though he has been sick for a while. Our deal is, I go to different stores in Yazoo to buy him cold and allergy medicine and he writes the script for me. He also gets a cameo and a piece of the backend.

So if I am to make this happen I need a bit of star-power. I am looking to have Casey Anthony star in my movie. She doesn’t have to get naked or nude or nothing it is not that kind of movie. I am a respectable director not a xxx porn king. Momma don’t let me have sex in the trailer anyway, so a sextape anit gonna happen. Believe me I’ve tried.

I will expect Casey Anthony to get in a bikini for a few shots, I hope she no longer has the bacne.

So if Casey Anthony reads this here is the deal. I don’t have a huge budget but I am looking to make this happen. During the shooting you can stay in my trailer here in Yazoo Mississippi. You are going to have to pay for your own meals but I will give you a beer allowance. Hope you like Natty Ice. There is one part in the script where you have to eat a bug but we can talk about that later.

So if anyone is in contact with Casey Anthony point her in my direction it is time for her close-up.

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OMG!!! What a complete Moron! I almost didn't post this but had to!!! We all need a good laugh!

George and Lee should sue Casey for defamation. In fact, there should be a long line of civil suits. Grandma or her bank should sue Casey for forgery and fraud. Somebody should sue her for wrongful death.

I agree, Lilone. I think the "suing" line is just starting to fill up.

Wrap, I'm glad you posted that I needed the laugh!

Casey Anthony: HLN ‘Prime News’ features Jeff Ashton
Caylee and Casey Anthony, HLN — posted by halboedeker on December, 21 2011 10:26 PM

The Casey Anthony trial will come in for more scrutiny as HLN “Prime News” looks back next week.

Former prosecutor Jeff Ashton will be Vinnie Politan’s guest on the program at 6 p.m. Monday and Tuesday.

Ashton will have another chance to promote his best-selling book, “Imperfect Justice,” about the Anthony trial.

“Prime News” is doing a best-of trial recap as the year winds down, an HLN spokeswoman said. Next week, HLNTV.com will profile the trial as its biggest story of the year, the spokeswoman added.

In July, Anthony was acquitted of murder in the 2008 death of her daughter, Caylee. She is serving a year’s probation somewhere in Florida for check fraud.

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States' Efforts to Enact 'Caylee's Laws' Garner Support, Controversy

ORLANDO, Fla. – When the Florida Legislature begins its 2012 session next month it will do so just six months after a jury acquitted Casey Anthony of killing her 2-year-old daughter in one of the state's most high-profile murder trials.
That verdict has some legislators pushing a law that would make it a felony if a parent or guardian doesn't tell authorities a child is missing or dead within a certain period. Some legal experts and law enforcement officials say the law as written reaches too far.
Florida House Bill 49 and Senate bills 84, 86 and 146 are among similar "Caylee's Law" legislation that have sprung up in more than a dozen states since the controversial July verdict and are among several new crime laws legislators will consider beginning Jan. 10.

Casey Anthony was charged with murder following Caylee's disappearance in June 2008. The 25-year-old didn't report her child missing for 31 days before telling police that a fictitious babysitter had kidnapped the child. She maintained the same story to her family and authorities until the child's skeletal remains were found in some woods in December 2008 not far from the family home.
Anthony stood trial for her toddler's death last summer, using the defense that Caylee drowned in the family pool, that she panicked and that her father, a former police officer, helped her cover up the death by placing the child's body in the woods. He denied it. She was acquitted of murder, but convicted of four charges of lying to police and released a short time later on time served.
"I don't think we can prevent irresponsible parenting, but we can certainly put in place penalties for parents that fail in the most basic fundamental responsibility to safeguard a child," Hager said. "Are there many instances a like law like this would apply? There's a precious few. But we don't want a situation like this to arise again where prosecutors and juries don't have the necessary tools."
The verdict elicited largely a visceral response nationwide, with many people feeling Anthony got away with murder. It led to an Oklahoma woman starting a petition on the activist website Change.org calling for a federal Caylee's Law. The petition has garnered nearly 1.3 million signatures to date.
The quick response by so many state legislatures to write versions of the law has drawn criticism.
"Caylee's Law is a legislative reaction to the public's frustration with the Casey Anthony verdict," said Pace (NY) Law School professor Leslie Garfield, a graduate of UF's Levin College of Law. "Legislators in our country have a history of proposing laws that are reactionary to public outcry following perceived injustice to children."
Hager doesn't shy away from that sentiment, but said that doesn't mean the law doesn't have merit.
"My bill was, in fact, a response to a high-profile crime," Hager said. "And No. 2, this alleged crime occurred in 2008, so my arithmetic suggests that three years is not a knee-jerk response. This is going through a formal process, like every bill goes through."
In November a Senate Select Committee on Protecting Florida's Children which was formed in response to Anthony's acquittal, recommended increasing the penalty for intentionally providing false information if the missing child is 16 years or under and suffers serious injuries or dies.
But the committee declined to recommend setting any deadlines for reporting a child missing or dead. Some proposals had suggested reporting deadlines between 12 and 48 hours.
Manatee County Sheriff's Office Major Connie Shingledecker, who has also served on a Florida Department of Children and Families task force, told Senate committee members in October that she worried such specific timeframes could confuse parents as to whether they are being required to wait a certain time to report a child missing.
University of Miami law professor Tamara Lave said what's troubling most to her about the proposed Caylee's Law legislation as proposed is a strict liability law, meaning it could punish those who aren't intentionally trying to commit a crime by notifying anyone -- like family members or a minister-- before authorities.
"One could respond you must depend on prosecutor to do right thing," Lave said. "That's a dangerous way to proceed with criminal law because you don't always have good or competent prosecutors."

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Casey Anthony Trial

Whitney Brown: In my opinion, the jury provided by the United States Justice System handled the Casey Anthony trial well, while the prosecution was weak. There was evidence presented to the court but there was no DNA evidence directly linking Casey to Caylee’s death and also there was not a motive given as the why Casey would have wanted to kill her daughter.

The jurors had to consider that their decision would either allow Anthony to live or to be put to death for murder. In order for a jury to put someone to death, their guilt must be proven without a shadow of a doubt, which was not the case in this trial. The weight of this decision was a great one and the jury just chose what they thought was the most logical decision based on the facts and the evidence presented.

One of the most important ideals of the U.S. Justice System is innocent until proven guilty. The verdict of “not guilty” does not aways mean “innocent.” I do think that Casey Anthony is guilty of murdering her child and she will have to live the rest of her life with the guilt of what she has done. One day, she will face the greatest judge of all and the truth will be revealed.

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Though always objective while covering the trial, Robyn Walensky provides the inside scoop on the events that led up to the shocking not guilty verdict in “Beautiful Life?: The CSI Behind the Casey Anthony Trial & My Observations from Courtroom Seat #1”
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“Beautiful Life?: The CSI Behind the Casey Anthony Trial & My Observations from Courtroom Seat #1” by Robyn Walensky

While fingers point at the jury and prosecutors, “Beautiful Life?: The CSI Behind the Casey Anthony Trial & My Observations from Courtroom Seat #1” (ISBN 1466241802) explains what happened in order to help the public understand the chain of events in court that led up to that fateful decision. Veteran news reporter Robyn Walensky provides a new perspective of the evidence heard in court, and offers readers exclusive interviews with actual crime scene investigators who built a case against the 25-year-old mother.

Walensky describes how Anthony turned on the tears when it suited her, and sat stone-faced when that was the best way to manipulate the jury. As she sat in seat number one every day of the trial, Walensky began to believe that Anthony was clearly ‘insane.’

“Casey Anthony is a great liar,” writes Walensky, a veteran crime reporter and author. “She’s smarter than anyone in her family.”

The first-hand accounts from detectives and other insiders, gathered as the case unfolded in real-time, provide an eye-opening window into the investigation and the jaw-dropping conclusion from the jury that allowed Anthony to walk, even though the world seemed to believe she killed her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

Even though she had to be objective while reporting the story in regular segments for HLN’s Nancy Grace, in the book, Walensky opens up against the defense tactics, specifically the disturbing sexual molestation allegations lobbed by Anthony’s defense attorney, Jose Baez, against her father, George. She even reveals her suspicions as to who Caylee’s father is, despite the fact that no one knows the truth to this day.

Veteran news reporter and anchor, Robyn Walensky
In “Beautiful Life?,” Walensky brings the details behind the popular headline story to life for an audience of readers captivated by the mysterious death of Caylee Anthony.

“While the detectives and CSIs testified at trial; most of the time they gave one word answers,” Walensky says. “In this book, they share their thoughts about the actual crime scene work they do and what they were thinking at the time.”

Walensky will donate a portion of the proceeds from “Beautiful Life?” to The Children’s Safety Village, an organization under the Orange County Sheriff’s Office. The money will be put toward fingerprinting and DNA collection kits for children in schools, daycare centers, churches, synagogues and summer camps in Orange County, Fla.

“Beautiful Life?: The CSI Behind the Casey Anthony Trial & My Observations from Courtroom Seat #1” is available for sale online at Amazon.com and other channels.
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About the Author:
Robyn Walensky is a veteran news reporter and anchor who has been covering crime, terrorism, politics and breaking news for more than 20 years in both radio and television. She was in two terrorist attacks, and reported extensively on the World Trade Center bombing in 1993, the federal trial of the WTC 93 Plotters and September 11th. She is co-editor and author of the book, “Covering Catastrophe-Broadcast Journalists Report 9-11-01.” Walensky has a bachelor’s in journalism and political science from George Washington University and a master’s in journalism from New York University. Most recently, Walensky was the morning drive reporter covering the Casey Anthony Trial for WDBO Radio in Orlando, Fla. and a frequent guest on CNN’s Nancy Grace Show. Currently, Walensky works for Mercury Radio Arts as an anchor and reporter for The Blaze, and can be heard daily on Glenn Beck’s national radio show.

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This is one book I will purchase!!

Tonight: Casey Anthony treatable?

A well-known psychologist says she's not so sure Casey Anthony can be helped. Dr. Judy says Casey must want to change, but attention she's getting from recently released videotapes removes any such motivation. Dr. Drew doesn't agree. They'll discuss it.

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I will buy Walenskys book as well

UPDATE: YES!!! WHY DO YOU THINK JOSE HAS FLED THE SCENE???

As my readers know, I have been respectful of the fact that Casey Anthony was acquitted of murder. This does not mean I feel she is not guilty. But now, Anthony and her team of losers have gone too far. How predictable!

Sad but true, many offenders return to prison on probation violations. It looks like Casey will be no different. This at least because of the Videos that she “released” this week. What a mess and how STUPID!

Let’s address why I think this was so foolish first and then we will get to the stories the tapes tell.

Casey Anthony is on ‘Supervised Probation. ” That means that she has strict accountability including checking in monthly with her probation officer, filing an income/loss statement, having a job or going to school and other things. In her last official released probation statement, Anthony claimed she had started online classes but did NOT have a job. Yet, on the video that was allegedly made two months ago, Anthony states that she bought the computer with her own money. WHAT MONEY??? This, from a woman who told her probation officer she had no job. Any money she earns must be accounted for because she has liens from the IRS and the State of Florida. SO, these videos are either showing her lying about where the computer came from or she lied on her probation report. Neither scenario is good for her.

Next, the tapes tell a story. Months ago I wrote about how the Jail House tapes of her family visit told a story of a very twisted family. Not just Casey, all of them. I received lots of angry comments and mail. But, of course it turned out during the trial that this family does have problems and many secrets. Hey, even perjury by momma Cindy Anthony! But, these new tapes of Casey show that she has learned NOTHING, has no remorse and obviously is severely mentally ill. After all, she talks about how she gets to have a camera and a phone! Hello, you had that in jail and in court. And, she talks about needing things of her own! Nothing about Caylee of course, and worse yet, nothing about wanting to lead a good and productive life. Let’s not forget that she did spend almost 4 years in jail for FRAUD. So, she is a felon and she should be trying to change.

As a prison coach and expert, I see amazing change everyday. Cases like Casey Anthony bring an even worse name to the rest of us. This insider suggests that Casey Anthony and her “team” get it together. But, don’t worry. I am sure her probation officer and others are on the case. Something else will pop big time, and soon. How sad and what a waste of our time and money. Get Real Casey Anthony, but I will save my Incarcerventions for those who care and can change. Look, I am not expecting Casey Anthony to practice some true Restorative Justice, but anything positive would be a start. I just do not see it.

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Sorry but apparently her most recent report was accepted with no qualms from probation - she lists no income and that her computer was "hacked" and she was upset about it. Apparently she can do whatever she wants and Florida says its ok.

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In the article listed above it states that a probation report was released Tuesday - can anyone access it and post it?

I think they are not online due to the sensitivity of her whereabouts, but if she continues on, she just may invite us all to her place for a no clothes party or a hot body contest.

Casey Anthony’s Twisted Life In Hiding

BY LYDIA HARRIS ON JANUARY 11, 2012
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This week’s issue of the National Enquirer covers the latest scoop on Casey Anthony’s twisted life in hiding! We’ve already heard about the video journals that leaked online and how her attorney wants to go after whoever leaked them. Apparently there is more to the story!

According to the tabloid, they have uncovered a new secret behind one of the videos. In addition to that, Casey is said to be involved in some X-rated online chats! How come we’re not really surprised by any of this? She’s holed up in a secret location and only leaves the house to meet up with some friends and go to the bar. Otherwise, she’s at home on the computer, doing her online schooling. Of course she’s engaging in some freaky deaky online.

According to the inset text, she’s telling her friends that she will make a great mother. Seriously?!? Once wasn’t enough for this crazy broad? She’s already been acquitted of one murder, so who in their right mind would get her pregnant now?

Also of note is that she apparently has a picture of Jesus with her slain daughter Caylee, near her bed. She didn’t mention that in the videos that leaked online. As a matter of fact, she didn’t mention her murdered daughter ONCE.
I hope she falls into oblivion so we don’t have to keep hearing her name. Don’t you? Let’s also hope that there isn’t a guy out there that thinks she would make a great mother. She’s not fit for the task. Don’t you agree?

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Uncategorized — posted by halboedeker on January, 13 2012 6:14 PM

Marcia Gay Harden plays a gung-ho TV host on 'Body of Proof.' Photo credit: Danny Feld/ABC

The plot on “Body of Proof” sounds familiar: A young mother goes free in her child’s murder, but the public says justice hasn’t been served.

The script was “loosely inspired” by the Casey Anthony case, said Matthew Gross, executive producer of the ABC drama. ”The only similarity is a young woman accused of killing her child, and sympathy goes with the child,” Gross said.

The episode, which airs at 10 p.m. Tuesday on WFTV-Channel 9 ABC, quickly goes off on its own dramatic tangents. The mother is accused of dumping her 5-year-old son in a river, and a judge acquits her of murder. Oh, and the young mom is found dead two minutes into the episode.

In July, Anthony was acquitted of murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee. Anthony is serving probation for check fraud somewhere in Florida.

“We’re not condoning someone taking her out, no matter how many films she puts out on YouTube,” Gross said of Anthony. “We don’t condone that behavior. Every life is precious.”

Rather, the episode, titled “Sympathy for the Devil,” focuses on the assumption of guilt and how the characters in the medical examiner’s office react to the slain, despised mother.

“Everyone deserves due process. It doesn’t matter what she did,” Gross said. “Someone killed her. Our job is to figure out who did it and bring them to justice.”

“Body of Proof,” which stars Dana Delany, also spoofs media fascination with the high-profile case through gung-ho TV host Sheila Temple (Marcia Gay Harden). Could Harden be doing a sendup of Nancy Grace?

“I don’t know why you would say that,” Gross said with a laugh. “She is loosely inspired by an amalgamation, a collage of many personalities on television. She [Grace] is definitely someone who comes to mind.”

This being a TV drama, “Body of Proof” can offer a definitive answer (particularly gruesome) about what happened to the victim.

Gross said he hopes star power bolsters the audience Tuesday. In addition, to Oscar winner Harden, the episode features Rita Wilson as the mom of the slain woman and Joanna Cassidy as the judge (and mother of Delany’s medical examiner).

Gross stressed the main theme about this drama set in a medical examiner’s office.

“Ultimately, the real message of the series is live every day,” Gross said. ”People in this business ask, ‘How do you write a show about death?’ It makes me appreciate every day I’m on the planet.”

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Former friend of Casey Anthony says she could be anywhere — including St. Lucie County

By Nicole Rodriguez
Posted January 14, 2012 at 2:08 p.m.,
updated January 14, 2012 at 2:37 p.m.

ST. LUCIE COUNTY — According to a one-time friend of Casey Anthony, the infamously dubbed "tot mom" could be anywhere — including St. Lucie County.

Nathan Lezniewicz, 29, who lives in Fort Pierce said he has lost contact with Anthony, 25, since her 2008 arrest, but doesn't rule out she may be residing on the Treasure Coast.

"It's kind of odd, huh?" Lezniewicz said Saturday. "Why wouldn't she pick a small town in the Midwest?"

And Anthony's uncle, Gary Plesea of Port St. Lucie would not comment Saturday on his niece's whereabouts.

"I'm not going to talk to you about anything," said Plesea who is the brother of Anthony's mother, Cindy. "This has been going on long enough."

Lezniewicz, who testified as a prosecution witness during the murder trial of Anthony's 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Marie, described Anthony as an "outgoing, vibrant" and "a little on the loopy side."

Anthony is currently serving a yearlong probation sentence for check fraud, handed down by an Orlando judge in August.

Lezniewicz testified Anthony appeared normal and didn't seem depressed of distraught during the days Anthony said Caylee was with "the nanny." Lezniewicz said he knew Anthony and Caylee well. Lezniewicz, a Fort Pierce native, said he lived with Anthony's then-boyfriend, Tony Lazzaro in Orlando.

"She (Anthony) stayed with Tony pretty much every night in June and July," said Lezniewicz, who heard through the grapevine that Anthony may have a Facebook account. "Caylee was an awesome little girl. Really sweet. She wasn't shy at all."

Lezniewicz said his former roommate, who now lives in New York, has also lost contact with Anthony. Lezniewicz said he still speaks to Lazzaro regularly, adding Anthony has not tried to contact the pair.

"No, thank God," Lezniewicz said about the prospect of Anthony contacting him. "I think that she does (have a Facebook page). I've heard people say that she does, like people I trust. They think that there is a profile out there."

Lezniewicz's younger brother, Josh Lezniewicz, 27, also of Fort Pierce, considers St. Lucie County an odd choice for Anthony.

"I don't know what to think about it. Since the day she left Tony's apartment with her mom and got arrested, nobody's talked to her," said Josh Lezniewicz, who has never met Anthony. "Maybe she thought St. Lucie County would be a good hideout, but that's stupid because Nathan's here."

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Well, now TMLS w/know Nathan is there..w/probably try to track him down to get ahold of Tony. MOO.

Casey Anthony Update: Living In Florida, She Was A Rape Victim, Famous Lawyer Quits

Posted on 14 January 2012

[St. Lucie County, FL] And we thought we were done with Casey Anthony, who is seemingly all over the news these days. In case you just emerged from a coma, (LOL!) Casey Anthony was accused of murdering her daughter Caylee, who “mysteriously” disappeared.

The Trial of the Century ensued, which Casey won, much to everyone’s disappointment. Except for her lead attorney Jose Baez, he was pretty happy – he’s now the hottest defender in the nation. Oh yeah, and Casey’s been in hiding since the trial so that no one will beat her up or kill her.

Got it? Good. So let’s do the quick catch-up with all things Casey, shall we?

First, there was the somewhat bizarre “video diaries” that popped up on the internet, supposedly stolen from her computer, or so said her lawyer. Crime-time talking head Nancy Grace wasn’t buying it, saying that the “leak” was a calculated, Hollywood-playbook publicity play.

Baez said in an appearance on Fox News on Sunday that Anthony did not leak two videos that surfaced online last week.

The black and white video – who has a black and white video camera anymore? – shows a fit and comfortable Casey sitting in front of a computer wearing a sharp pair of prescription glasses and a wife beater-style tee. She talks about her new piercings. Doesn’t mention Caylee once.

The criticism is that she doesn’t show remorse in the video. Baez said that is ridiculous, as the videos only captured a few moments of her day.

“They were private webcam videos solely intended for her and certainly were not meant to be disseminated in any way,” Anthony attorney-mouthpiece Baez told Fox News. “I think this is outrageous that this is happening.”

But that was last week – Baez has apparently quit working for Casey, according to TMZ. The “stolen” videos were just too much for him.

Oh, and there’s that defamation suit filed by the woman who has the same name as the made-up babysitter that Anthony claimed stole away Caylee back in 2008. Anthony may have to give another deposition, according to a report.

Let’s not forget the ongoing civil case against her by Texas EquuSearch, the “mounted search and recovery” non-profit that spent thousands of dollars looking for Caylee Anthony based on Casey’s now-believed-to-be-made-up story. They are trying to recover the money from Casey.
Central Florida News 13 says that both the firm’s founder (Tim Miller) and Anthony will have to give depositions in the case, a judge ruled last week.

And then there’s this bit of lovely info …
Recently released court documents show that Anthony claims to have been raped and that the birth of Caylee was possibly the result of that rape. In a recently-released report, Anthony told a doctor that she didn’t actually know who Caylee’s father was.

The notorious party girl admittedly was passed out at a party due to excessive drinking and drugging and woke up pregnant, or something like that.

“Two beers, possibly given another drug. Woke up passed out…Don’t remember anything at a party, age 18. This is how she said she got pregnant,” psychiatrist Jeff Danzinger’s notes read. He interviewed her in Nov. 2010, but was not involved in the trial.

Another bombshell from Danziger’s notes: Anthony said that she was molested by her father George Anthony when she was young. George Anthony denies the allegations.

And now a published report from People Magazine – on newsstands now!! – has outed Casey Anthony’s hide-out: It’s in St. Lucie County, right here in sunny Florida (where else?). The location makes sense as Anthony is still on probation for check-fraud convictions and under Florida Department of Corrections supervision.

The writer – Steve Helling – will not reveal how he figured it out. He’s probably got the 4-1-1 as he knows Casey well enough to have written a book about her.

According to Central Florida News 13, “at least one other person in the county has said they spotted Anthony.”

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April 23, 2012 By SJ2

Here are 5 short video clips featuring Defense Attorney God Jose Baez, as he discusses the various aspects of Casey’s trial on a recent broadcast of PBS’s “Frontline: The Real CSI”.

It once again proves how shambolic, desperate & clueless the cesspool-style prosecution really was in their failed attempts to validate their fantasy forensics, and appease the unwashed knuckle-dragging masses. Yea, Right!!







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As you can see from the above link, this is a ridiculous site. However, after you've downed a cocktail and a valium, you may want to listen to Bozo just for the hell of it.

Notation: I saw with my own two eyes exactly WHERE little Caylee's skull was found and it was NOT..repeat NOT "directly across from a school." The school was a adjacent to where the skull was found. Directly across the street were more woods. The school was probably an eighth of mile from the "dumping ground" as Bozo put's it so eloquently.

From radaronline.com - looks like the pastor and his wife that were hiding casey have had it with her!

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I hope they do kick her to the curb! I don't understand the love thing people have going on for her.

It's the same old bs. She does people wrong and they tell her they still love and w/protect her. WHY??? I couldn't believe what I read. My voicemail would have been less than six words. Get the f**k out. Period.

hahahaha Im with you wrap but dont forget that sociopaths gravitate toward the naive and CLUELESS

Casey claims to have been raped? You know that's a lie- you can't rape the willing. LOL

Updated: Wednesday, 02 May 2012, 7:36 AM EDT

PALM CITY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35 ORLANDO) - New details from the family that took Casey Anthony in after she was released from jail reveal that they were upset after she left their home.

Radar Online is reporting that Steve and Cindy Camp, who run the Cross Church of Palm City where she was rumored to be hiding in January, were upset with Anthony when she left.

They just released details from a voicemail Cindy left for Casey in which Cindy expresses the family's feelings of betrayal and blasts Casey for being self-centered and calls Casey selfish and self-centered.

"You have a church here, you have people that care about you and have protected you. We haven't said a word."

The message goes on to say "It would be good to know that you were just going to up and leave four days ago, we could have made a very simple statement and avoided all of this hassle…The kids are just going to be heartbroken.. For once get outside your own head and think of someone else. Think of this family…they deserve thanks"

The message was said to have been left just days after bizarre videos of Casey showing off her new hairstyle and talking about her "new life"... leaked online.

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This was what..back in Jan? I find it odd this is just now coming out.

Your Noah reminds me of my Noah. Happy BDay to him! So, where did TLMS go after she left their home?

Probably to her mother's.

Thanks, Hippy! Hard to believe he is 6!! It seems like maybe 3 years ago we were all waiting at the hospital for him!! They grow so fast!!

I just realized that it was a year ago yesterday (May 9) that jury selection began in this case that held us in its grip for so long. So hard to believe that it has been a year!! And so hard to believe that my optimism for justice for Caylee came crashing down on July 5 with that horrific verdict!

If anybody wants to review what we were all focused on a year ago, the following link is to the thread that covered May 9-18:

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WOW, Lisette..what fond memories just reading the first page.

We all had such high hopes that they would pick a jury that would convict her. Little did we know what was in store.

Thanks for posting the above thread. I wish they had picked a jury right out of Orlando..or Any other city or county. To this day, it's Still hard to believe she walked..especially after I saw where her skull was found with my own eyes..it's something I will NEVER forget!

Wrapitup wrote:Probably to her mother's.

Thanks, Hippy! Hard to believe he is 6!! It seems like maybe 3 years ago we were all waiting at the hospital for him!! They grow so fast!!

Just imagine, my Noah is 12 and so "grown up" and responsible. I can still remember VIVIDLY the day he was born. His other grandmother and I were both first-time grandmothers and we were both so delighted and in love with that little baby- who was perfect in every way. I think we both walked on clouds the first 5 yr of his life.
I love all my grandkids but the first one is always "special".

I know this is but who cares? At least we are talking about our grandchildren in a positive light..something TMLS will Never have a clue about.

Yes, the first one IS special. LOL. I say this because I was the first born and this is what my mother tells me.

It's hard to believe my son has a 6 year old as I still think of him as "my baby" even though he w/be 35 in August. Hard to believe as I remember giving birth to him so vividly.

I am very proud of all of my grandchildren. My Noah w/be in the gifted program in 1st grade. I wonder..is that a good thing or bad? Anyone know about this?? He is very intelligent and some of the things he says astounds me. But, I do wonder if this w/make him grow up too fast. Am on the fence on it. My mother is a retired teacher and her take is he is too young for the "gifted" program. I sure would like feedback if anyone has dealt with this at such a young age.

I do have to say, my middle grandson is the light of my life. He w/be 3 in July and I've taken care of him since birth and we have a very special bond. I think sometimes he gets lost in the shuffle due to Noah's school projects and my son and DIL taking care of my 15 mo old grandson. So, I give my little Quinn a lot of attention while I am there and he eats it up. I wish my son or DIL had the time to spend some one on one w/him. He loves it when I watch him and I have noticed a tad bit of jealousy when I am holding or playing w/the baby. Q is my shadow. He is always by my side and I love it. When the baby is asleep and it's just the two of us, we go outside and play and color together or whatever.

My Noah w/be in the gifted program in 1st grade. I wonder..is that a good thing or bad? Anyone know about this??

Wrap, my son was in the gifted program when he was in 1st grade, and it was a good thing. It kept him from getting bored, I think. You would have thought that his intelligence would have kept him from getting into some of the messes he got into in his teen and early adult years. However, he is turned around now and is graduating at 28 from college with a 3.93 GPA, and starting graduate school this summer...Going to be a substance abuse counselor, and his experiences will help him be a good one. We are so thankful and proud of him.

Thanks, Lisette. The "boredom" part makes a lot of sense. I know when Noah started Kindergarten, he already knew how to count, knew his colors and a lot more. My fear is he w/get a "big head" about it and I sure wouldn't want him getting into "messes" in his teens. But, no matter the intelligence level, lot's of teens and early adults do. And, I cannot begin to imagine how the world w/be when our little grandbabies are teens. It's pretty messed up now IMHO. Kids today have access to too much information between all the cable channels, internet and cell phones. This is MOO as thankfully, there was none of that when I was raising my kids. Not to say they didn't get into "messes" as they did. I just hate the thought of all the gadgets now and the fact that kids would rather sit in front of a video game than actually play outside. That's why I am glad N is playing Little League.

Lisette, thanks again for your input. It means a lot~

My Noah is very intelligent but my daughter opted out of having him in gifted/talented early on. He is not an "outdoor kid" as he told me a few yrs ago, he likes to stay inside w/ his bestie and play video games. He is not interested in sports, he was in soccer, karate, etc and didn't like it at all. His dad is a brainiac so Noah is very smart too. The rest of my grandkids are "outdoor kids".

Investigator in Casey Anthony case wonders if her testimony fell on deaf ears



By Kelli Cook, Reporter
Last Updated: Friday, May 25, 2012 @ 08:51PM

One year ago, the first witness testified in the murder case against Casey Anthony.

We introduced you Thursday to Robin Maynard, a former Orange County crime scene investigator.

Now she’s back to tell us what she thinks the jurors were really thinking when she was testifying.

Hopespring Drive is home to George and Cindy Anthony, and the place where Casey said her daughter Caylee died.

Maynard was a crime scene investigator on the case, and was called to testify in Casey's murder trial one year ago.

Maynard's biggest claim to fame with the case was she found the heart-shaped sticker among little Caylee's remains.

"We collected it like any other piece of evidence,” Maynard said. “I mean, we were there to document the evidence to do it properly."

Prosecutors argued Casey placed a heart-shaped sticker on the duct tape that was found on Caylee's skull.

Maynard testified twice during the trial and wondered if her testimony fell on deaf ears.

"I've testified in a lot of trials, and granted it was a Friday afternoon, but I kind of felt like the jury was kind of closed off,” Maynard said. “So short of a couple of women that were kind of leaning and nodding, they did appear to be closed off."

Maynard is no longer a crime scene investigator. She now works full-time at the breast cancer foundation that she created called "Libby's Legacy."

When Maynard mentioned her non-profit on the witness stand, she said her website at Libby's Legacy got over a 100,000 hits.

But she may be best known to many because of the time she spent on one of the most notorious cases in Central Florida history.

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Want to remember what you were doing a year ago? Here is the thread that covered May 24-27 of the trial last year:

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Oh my, I don't want to re-live last summer. I was never so disappointed in my life as I was when that verdict came down. I am still pissed at those stupid jurors.

artgal16 wrote:Can you believe that third-rate ambulance chaser Baez has been asked to speak to Harvard Law School? This from a guy that couldnt pass the bar in how long? My god our standards have dropped horribly. The people who invited Baez have scraped the bottom of the barrel if they think Baez has anything to offer their students.

I wonder if any of the parents shelling out the big bucks for a Harvard education for their kid complained when they learned Baez was speaking there? I know I would have pitched a royal fit!!!!

Prosecutor: Pre-trial publicity helped acquit Casey Anthony

JEFF ASHTON, a former prosecutor in the Casey Anthony murder case, believes media coverage of the case tainted the juror pool and contributed to Anthony’s acquittal.

Posted: Friday, May 25, 2012 12:35 pm
By KIM SCHMIDT Hub Staff Writer

KEARNEY — Publicity prior to the murder trial of Casey Anthony, who told police a babysitter had kidnapped her child, affected the case’s outcome, Anthony’s prosecutor said in Kearney Thursday.

“Thousands of people were convinced that Casey Anthony was guilty before we ever called the first witness at trial,” said Jeff Ashton, one of three prosecutors who tried Anthony in 2011 for the murder of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

Ashton was the featured speaker Thursday at the 25th annual Law Enforcement Coordinating Committee and Nebraska County Attorneys Association Criminal Justice Conference in Kearney.

Casey Anthony, 26, was acquitted in July 2011 of murdering Caylee, but was convicted on four counts of lying to law enforcement for claiming that a babysitter had kidnapped the child. She is currently serving one year of probation in Florida for a check fraud conviction.

During his daylong presentation, Ashton recapped Anthony’s investigation and trial for the nearly 150 law enforcement officers and prosecutors attending the conference. He told many anecdotes about the case, the forensic challenges, and about experts who testified about the odor of decomposition.

Ashton said Florida’s public record law worked against prosecutors by tainting potential jurors. Under Florida’s public record law prosecutors are required to share all of the evidence they have in a case with defense attorneys, Ashton said.

Once defense attorneys receive the information, it becomes public. In the Casey Anthony case, as soon as the information was made public, local and national media were saturated with it.

“A month after the 911 call had been released, we had people in an uproar and wanting to crucify Casey Anthony,” Ashton said.

Nebraska doesn’t have the same public records requirements as Florida, said Mike Mefferd, a deputy Buffalo County Attorney. Information shared between attorneys in a Nebraska criminal case is more limited, and there is a system in place to prevent the type of situation that occurred in the Anthony case.

It wasn’t until after the trial that Ashton realized the highly publicized case had eliminated most potential jurors.

“By the process of jury selection, the pretrial publicity had already eliminated 90 percent of the population, and so all you’re left with is people who by nature are more skeptical and need to have a greater level of certainty to convict,” he said. “Because of that process, we ended up filtering out all those people who could’ve put the puzzle together.”

Ashton is convinced Casey Anthony killed her daughter because she wanted a different, more carefree and single lifestyle, and she convinced herself she would be better off without her daughter.

“Casey Anthony is the most narcissistic human being ever born,” Ashton said.

Ashton believes Caylee was killed by her mother in her grandparents’ home in Orange County, Florida in mid-June 2008. Ashton and other Florida law enforcement officials say Casey Anthony used liquid chloroform to put her daughter into a deep sleep. Chloroform is typically used as a solvent.

Ashton said Casey Anthony then put duct tape over her daughter’s nose and mouth, wrapped her in her Winnie the Pooh blanket, put her body into the trunk of her car to die, and later disposed of the body less than one-quarter mile away from her parents’ home in a wooded, swampy area.

The Casey Anthony case, Ashton said, is a good example of how law enforcement needs to have strict communication with the agencies working with them. After Caylee’s disappearance a private organization volunteered to look for Caylee’s body.

There was confusion between police and volunteers to whether the wooded swamp area near the Anthony home had been searched. The area was never searched, Ashton said, and Caylee’s remains weren’t found until four months after the search.

“You have to have real good communication and you have to know actually what people are doing. She (Caylee) was out there four months longer than she should’ve been and largely because people assumed that area had been searched, when it really hadn’t been,” he said.

Ashton retired from prosecuting shortly after the Casey Anthony trial and is now running for Florida state attorney. He also wrote a book about the case, “Imperfect Justice: Prosecuting Casey Anthony,” and signed books Thursday after his presentation.

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Hippy wrote:

Oh my, I don't want to re-live last summer.

I know, Hippy, as I read through some of the posts, my heart was broken when I realized how sure we were that she would be found guilty...Never dreamed that it would turn out like it did. Still unbelievable that those jurors couldn't see what we saw.