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Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
The biggest thing I am worried about is that there have not been any arrests. This is frustrating!
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Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
I am also frustrated over not having an arrest yet. I am certain Shawn is the main person of guilt in this case but I believe others, including Billie, are guilty as well. Either by participating or have knowledge of what happened.
I also believe it is more drug related than sexual assault. Could be both.
I have done a background check on almost every person that Billie and Shawn associate with. There was one thing in common with them all.
DRUGS.
The sports car that was at Billie's house in CC months after Hailey went missing was registered to a known drug dealer with a violent past. I believe he was from the Weatherford, Texas area.
I am just not sure local LE will be able to solve this case. Even with the help from the Texas Rangers and FBI.
I also believe it is more drug related than sexual assault. Could be both.
I have done a background check on almost every person that Billie and Shawn associate with. There was one thing in common with them all.
DRUGS.
The sports car that was at Billie's house in CC months after Hailey went missing was registered to a known drug dealer with a violent past. I believe he was from the Weatherford, Texas area.
I am just not sure local LE will be able to solve this case. Even with the help from the Texas Rangers and FBI.
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Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
I think LE dropped the ball early on once Shawn failed not one but what..2 or was it 3 poly's as did Billie. He even told the cops Hailey is in Scurry County. Now, how would he KNOW that or SAY that if he wasn't involved? Then, the porn stuff..then, Billie lying about him being in her house. BOTH should have been arrested on the porn stuff. Let them sit in jail and see who squeals.
This case is reminding more and more of little HaLeigh Cummings, complete w/drugs/guns/gf's/small town bs. ONLY differences are Hailey Dunn has been found..HaLeigh Cummings has NOT. HaLeigh Cummings father is in prison for gee...DRUGS as is the alleged last person to see her..the gf turned wife, Misty..also Misty's brother..ALL for DRUGS.
So, I have little doubt drugs were involved in this but I think he was raping her..maybe she was given meth and when Billie saw that..she blamed Hailey and they both killed her.
This case is reminding more and more of little HaLeigh Cummings, complete w/drugs/guns/gf's/small town bs. ONLY differences are Hailey Dunn has been found..HaLeigh Cummings has NOT. HaLeigh Cummings father is in prison for gee...DRUGS as is the alleged last person to see her..the gf turned wife, Misty..also Misty's brother..ALL for DRUGS.
So, I have little doubt drugs were involved in this but I think he was raping her..maybe she was given meth and when Billie saw that..she blamed Hailey and they both killed her.
Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
I have lost sleep over this case since it began. I just do not believe that Shawn Adkins committed this crime by himself and got by with it.
IMO, Shawn is not the brightest person and to believe he committed the perfect crime and has fooled LE including the FBI and Texas Rangers is unbelievable.
I firmly believe this was a drug debt that ended a child's life.
Billie has stood beside Shawn and even been arrested for lying and protecting him.
No mother does this if she believes he raped and killed her child.
IMO, Shawn is not the brightest person and to believe he committed the perfect crime and has fooled LE including the FBI and Texas Rangers is unbelievable.
I firmly believe this was a drug debt that ended a child's life.
Billie has stood beside Shawn and even been arrested for lying and protecting him.
No mother does this if she believes he raped and killed her child.
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Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
This is happening too often:
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MADISONVILLE, Texas (AP) — Authorities in Southeast Texas say two people have been arrested on charges they were among a group of 11 involved in the sexual assault of a teenage girl.
Thirty-five-year-old Sondress Lotts and 33-year-old Earl James Tyler remained in the Madison County jail Monday after turning themselves into police over the weekend. They're each charged with child trafficking and sexual assault of a child.
Lotts is the sole woman in the group of 11 suspects who authorities say were involved in giving the teen methamphetamine in March and then taking her to a Madisonville home where she was assaulted over several hours. Madisonville is about 40 miles northeast of College Station.
All but two of the suspects have been arrested.
Jail records did not indicate attorneys for Lotts and Tyler.
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MADISONVILLE, Texas (AP) — Authorities in Southeast Texas say two people have been arrested on charges they were among a group of 11 involved in the sexual assault of a teenage girl.
Thirty-five-year-old Sondress Lotts and 33-year-old Earl James Tyler remained in the Madison County jail Monday after turning themselves into police over the weekend. They're each charged with child trafficking and sexual assault of a child.
Lotts is the sole woman in the group of 11 suspects who authorities say were involved in giving the teen methamphetamine in March and then taking her to a Madisonville home where she was assaulted over several hours. Madisonville is about 40 miles northeast of College Station.
All but two of the suspects have been arrested.
Jail records did not indicate attorneys for Lotts and Tyler.
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Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
gnreed wrote:I have lost sleep over this case since it began. I just do not believe that Shawn Adkins committed this crime by himself and got by with it.
IMO, Shawn is not the brightest person and to believe he committed the perfect crime and has fooled LE including the FBI and Texas Rangers is unbelievable.
I firmly believe this was a drug debt that ended a child's life.
Billie has stood beside Shawn and even been arrested for lying and protecting him.
No mother does this if she believes he raped and killed her child.
I have no idea when a child's life became suitable payment for a drug debt. And yes it does happen more than we know. The actions of these sick individuals is slowing being brought into the light.
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Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
I would like to know Specifically HOW or WHY this became a drug debt. Are you saying that b/c B&S (perfect initials for them ) owed money for drugs that someone other than the BS artists killed Hailey? And/or are you saying Shawn killed Hailey for drug money? This is WHY I feel Hailey was trafficked out..or should I say..I really believed she was trafficked out UNTIL and AFTER her body was found in Scurry County..just down the road from S's mother's home. Either she died in that house and S took her out to the boondocks knowing there was no cell service in that area (he could have easily turned his phone off) OR she was taken someplace where she was bound/gagged/trafficked out for the alleged drug debt and THEN S buried her in Scurry County. The ONLY thing that makes me think she Never left B's home alive is b/c Shawn told LE that Hailey was in Scurry County but would not elaborate. Hope I'm making sense here.
Gnreed, I hear you about losing sleep. You're right there. You know who these peeps are..know who their so called 'friends' are..know of their families. I truly feel for you.
Gnreed, I hear you about losing sleep. You're right there. You know who these peeps are..know who their so called 'friends' are..know of their families. I truly feel for you.
Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
Sadly, I am convinced this case will NEVER be solved. The FBI and local LE continue to ask for the public's help in solving this murder.
Not looking good.
Not looking good.
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Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
Could be that local LE is playing dumb so that they don't have to get any of their good ol' boys in trouble.gnreed wrote:Sadly, I am convinced this case will NEVER be solved. The FBI and local LE continue to ask for the public's help in solving this murder.
Not looking good.
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Hailey Dunn: What's Next?
It's been over a month since remains found in Scurry County were identified as Hailey Dunn's. And since then, no word has come out as to how she died. And while many have their theories, confirmation takes time.
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Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
From above link..not worried about this particular website if you know what I mean and Thanks for finding it, Raine!
"There could be skull fractures, there could be broken bones. They would KNOW by now if that is the case. Forensic pathologists can examine those bones and determine whether these are impact wounds or old fractures or new fractures, or if they've healed or if they haven't," said Sgt. Lynn Beard of the Abilene Police Department.
Broken bones, injury to the tissue and bullet fragments fragments are just few of the ways investigators are able to tell if someone was murdered or died of other causes. For example, a cause of death was determined based on only a skull due to the visible fractures.
"Had that been a case where, for example, the victims wrists had been cut and they bled to death, then there was no hard-bone injury, it was all soft tissue type injury, and that tissue is gone because of animal activity and decomposition and that certainly makes it more problematic," said Sgt. Beard. Unless one lived under a rock, we already know this due to trial.
And in cases with very few remains, it takes even more time.
"So a remains case with just a few bones, you're talking about microscopic examination and tissue samples and DNA sampling and all types of things that take months and months to complete," explained Sgt. Beard. There IS no tissue left. NOT after almost 2 years in the blazing TX sun? Who the hell do they think we are?
Regardless of the number of bones found or whether or not foul play is involved, every remains investigation follows the same process. And that's a process that takes time and meticulous examination.
"But to them, it's another case that they have to work, and it creates a back-log," Sgt. Beard said. "Especially in DNA types of situations. It's not uncommon for it to take two or three months to get a positive DNA test result back." I think this is as this is a high priority case..or if it isn't, it Should be. These forensic experts can hone in on the COD pretty quickly. It took approx 2 mo in to not only determine that the skull found was little Caylee's but Dr. G had the COD down; 'homicide by undetermined means'. There were NO fractures or blunt force trauma to her remains. I don't buy what they are trying to sell.
Though it'll take time, many are anxiously awaiting the results in hopes the wait will yield justice. Shawn and Billie should already be locked up for the infamous porn. OMG, this case and these local yocals drive me NUTS!
"There could be skull fractures, there could be broken bones. They would KNOW by now if that is the case. Forensic pathologists can examine those bones and determine whether these are impact wounds or old fractures or new fractures, or if they've healed or if they haven't," said Sgt. Lynn Beard of the Abilene Police Department.
Broken bones, injury to the tissue and bullet fragments fragments are just few of the ways investigators are able to tell if someone was murdered or died of other causes. For example, a cause of death was determined based on only a skull due to the visible fractures.
"Had that been a case where, for example, the victims wrists had been cut and they bled to death, then there was no hard-bone injury, it was all soft tissue type injury, and that tissue is gone because of animal activity and decomposition and that certainly makes it more problematic," said Sgt. Beard. Unless one lived under a rock, we already know this due to trial.
And in cases with very few remains, it takes even more time.
"So a remains case with just a few bones, you're talking about microscopic examination and tissue samples and DNA sampling and all types of things that take months and months to complete," explained Sgt. Beard. There IS no tissue left. NOT after almost 2 years in the blazing TX sun? Who the hell do they think we are?
Regardless of the number of bones found or whether or not foul play is involved, every remains investigation follows the same process. And that's a process that takes time and meticulous examination.
"But to them, it's another case that they have to work, and it creates a back-log," Sgt. Beard said. "Especially in DNA types of situations. It's not uncommon for it to take two or three months to get a positive DNA test result back." I think this is as this is a high priority case..or if it isn't, it Should be. These forensic experts can hone in on the COD pretty quickly. It took approx 2 mo in to not only determine that the skull found was little Caylee's but Dr. G had the COD down; 'homicide by undetermined means'. There were NO fractures or blunt force trauma to her remains. I don't buy what they are trying to sell.
Though it'll take time, many are anxiously awaiting the results in hopes the wait will yield justice. Shawn and Billie should already be locked up for the infamous porn. OMG, this case and these local yocals drive me NUTS!
Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
my thought is they drugged her and she OD dont know why I think so??? would that show up in hair follicals???
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Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
It might..if they found any hair. Although I remember w/the Anthony case they found no drugs on the hair they found on the tape. Even typing these words makes me sick!
Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
Wrap I thought about that too but cloriform would be quite different from meth coke or heroine
Slys Hunny- Join date : 2011-01-30
Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
True..some thought they'd find xanax in her hair. AKA Zanny.
Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
It's interesting that Del Ostrander, BD's brother, is sitting in jail in Taylor County as of yesterday.
He was arrested for:
1.Criminal Mischief
2.Evading arrest
3.Man. and Del of CS
It appears he was arrested in Mitchell County and transferred to Garza County, then transferred to Taylor County.
For some reason they didn't want him held in Mitchell County. (Colorado City)
I will see what I can find out later today.
He was arrested for:
1.Criminal Mischief
2.Evading arrest
3.Man. and Del of CS
It appears he was arrested in Mitchell County and transferred to Garza County, then transferred to Taylor County.
For some reason they didn't want him held in Mitchell County. (Colorado City)
I will see what I can find out later today.
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Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
Gnreed, am presuming "Man." is Manslaughter????? and "Del of CS" is Deletion of Criminal ????? Help me out here!
Why in the world..if he was arrested in Mitchell County..was he transferred to Garza and Then to Taylor County?? Unless he committed crimes IN Garza AND Taylor????
Why in the world..if he was arrested in Mitchell County..was he transferred to Garza and Then to Taylor County?? Unless he committed crimes IN Garza AND Taylor????
Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
Or could be they are trying to keep it out of Mitchell Co news????
Slys Hunny- Join date : 2011-01-30
Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
Sorry. That would be manufacturing and delivery of a controlled substance.
That normally means someone has a meth lab.
Evidently, the offenses occured in Mitchell County. He may have evaded and finally apprehended in Garza County.
Just speculating at this time.
That normally means someone has a meth lab.
Evidently, the offenses occured in Mitchell County. He may have evaded and finally apprehended in Garza County.
Just speculating at this time.
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Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
Thanks Gnreed! I too was thinking manslaughter! I guess our brains here just naturally to something like that!
Wondering if Shawn still lives with Del, not really a question really.
I am so impatient for an arrest(s) in this case, it really worries me that again, just silence.
We really appreciate you and your updates here!
Wondering if Shawn still lives with Del, not really a question really.
I am so impatient for an arrest(s) in this case, it really worries me that again, just silence.
We really appreciate you and your updates here!
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Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
Now that I re-read what you wrote, Gnreed, makes sense.
I agree on the meth lab or...he was manufacturing crack.
Agree wholeheartedly w/Raine..don't care what county or country..arrest Shawn and Billie and anyone else that was involved in Hailey's murder.
Keep us posted, Gnreed and thanks again!
I agree on the meth lab or...he was manufacturing crack.
Agree wholeheartedly w/Raine..don't care what county or country..arrest Shawn and Billie and anyone else that was involved in Hailey's murder.
Keep us posted, Gnreed and thanks again!
Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
Amen, Sly's..I Still think that county has some good ole boys that were involved in the infamous porn. MOO.Slys Hunny wrote:Or could be they are trying to keep it out of Mitchell Co news????
Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
What about Taylor County??? LOL.Evidently, the offenses occured in Mitchell County. He may have evaded and finally apprehended in Garza County.
Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
Damn, I thought maybe they had finally arrested Billie and Shawn when I saw this thread was updated.
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Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
Wrapitup wrote:What about Taylor County??? LOL.Evidently, the offenses occured in Mitchell County. He may have evaded and finally apprehended in Garza County.
I believe they do not want him in the Mitchell County jail. This could be for a variety of reasons. The main being they are concerned about who may visit him.
Taylor County has the video visitation which means no contact, and the conversation can be monitored.
In addition, this could be a major investigation.
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Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
So he's in Taylor County??? I'm confused.
Specifically, WHO do they think would visit him?? Billie? Couldn't they 'monitor' the Mitchell County jail visits??
Also, he could have been growing pot for all we know.
Please keep us apprised. Gnreed, I am NOT trying to argue w/you in any way so please know that..I am Truly confused on WHY they would not want him in Mitchell County due to who would visit him and why they would not be able to monitor/record any inmate/visitor conversation.
What about the other county?? Which one is he in now? LOL. Sorry, can't say it enough.
Specifically, WHO do they think would visit him?? Billie? Couldn't they 'monitor' the Mitchell County jail visits??
Also, he could have been growing pot for all we know.
Please keep us apprised. Gnreed, I am NOT trying to argue w/you in any way so please know that..I am Truly confused on WHY they would not want him in Mitchell County due to who would visit him and why they would not be able to monitor/record any inmate/visitor conversation.
What about the other county?? Which one is he in now? LOL. Sorry, can't say it enough.
Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
There are a number of reasons. Small jail in CC could be at capacity, or they may want him kept away from other inmates.
In small jails, it's also easy for visitors to smuggle narcotics in to inmates.
Taylor County does not allow face to face visits.
Not saying this is the reason, but could be.
Also, most manufacturing and deliver of controlled substance arrests are related to meth labs.
I would not be shocked if we find that Clint and others are involved in this drug ring as well.
In small jails, it's also easy for visitors to smuggle narcotics in to inmates.
Taylor County does not allow face to face visits.
Not saying this is the reason, but could be.
Also, most manufacturing and deliver of controlled substance arrests are related to meth labs.
I would not be shocked if we find that Clint and others are involved in this drug ring as well.
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Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
Drug Charges?
This worries me because in my mind if they had anything that tied him to Hailey's death they wouldn't be jacking around with a drug arrest.
gnreed do you think they may have arrested him on drug charges just to keep him from skipping off the radar?
Sadly so much time has past I don't know how anyone can be held accountable for her murder, unless a gun was used and ballistics tied someone to a gun or something found with her remains that link a connection to someone.
No DNA, no witnesses placing a vehicle or anyone with her at the time of her disappearance.
As always this is just MO and I have a lot!
This worries me because in my mind if they had anything that tied him to Hailey's death they wouldn't be jacking around with a drug arrest.
gnreed do you think they may have arrested him on drug charges just to keep him from skipping off the radar?
Sadly so much time has past I don't know how anyone can be held accountable for her murder, unless a gun was used and ballistics tied someone to a gun or something found with her remains that link a connection to someone.
No DNA, no witnesses placing a vehicle or anyone with her at the time of her disappearance.
As always this is just MO and I have a lot!
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Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
Del was interviewed by Ktab TV last night in the Taylor County Jail.
He stated he believes Shawn Adkins kidnapped and killed Hailey.
He also said he doesn't believe his sister (BD) had anything to do with it.
Del had a partner in crime when arrested earlier this week.
Christopher Johnson is charged with attempted capitol murder, possession of a firearm by felon, and numerous other charges.
I am assuming he shot at LE when being busted on the drug charges.
He stated he believes Shawn Adkins kidnapped and killed Hailey.
He also said he doesn't believe his sister (BD) had anything to do with it.
Del had a partner in crime when arrested earlier this week.
Christopher Johnson is charged with attempted capitol murder, possession of a firearm by felon, and numerous other charges.
I am assuming he shot at LE when being busted on the drug charges.
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Hailey Dunn's Uncle Speaks Out from Jail
Del Ostrander, Hailey Dunn's uncle and Billie Dunn's brother, was arrested for drug possession, but is speaking out about his niece's death.
"I don't have no kind of involvement with my niece missing," said Del. (In most logics and some languages, double negatives cancel one another and produce an affirmative sense.....Nama)
It's been two and a half years since Hailey Dunn went missing.And her uncle is finally speaking out.
"The day she went missing, I was in county jail," he said. "I got out of jail that day."
Though some have suspected his involvement with Hailey's death, he tells me he doesn't know what happened to her. But he believes, looking back, he could have stopped something from happening.
"When I seen her on Christmas, she asked me to come spend the night with her," he explained. "I should've spent the night there because she went missing, I think, that next day."
But whether or not he really could have saved her is speculation. And now, speculation shifts to who did it.
"People think they know what happened. I think i know what happened. I think Shawn Adkins kidnapped my niece in the morning sometime and killed her, I guess. But you can't put the blame on somebody until you know what happened," Ostrander said.
Speculation also falls on Billie Dunn. But, Del tells us that he doesn't think his sister was involved.
"My sister, I've known my sister for 26 years," he said. "My sister ain't that kind of person."
Del says he hasn't seen or talked to anyone since the memorial a few weeks ago, which was an emotional experience for him.
"I was okay until they started reading that piece of paper," he said.
Still difficult to talk about weeks later..
"Then they started showing the pictures of her," he continued. "I couldn't take that stuff. I had to get out of there."
And if he could say anything to Hailey?
"That I love her and I miss her and I wish she was here right now."
Ostrander admitted to taking a polygraph test a few months after Hailey's disappearance, but claims to know what what the results were. No one has been arrested since her remains were identified in late April.
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"I don't have no kind of involvement with my niece missing," said Del. (In most logics and some languages, double negatives cancel one another and produce an affirmative sense.....Nama)
It's been two and a half years since Hailey Dunn went missing.And her uncle is finally speaking out.
"The day she went missing, I was in county jail," he said. "I got out of jail that day."
Though some have suspected his involvement with Hailey's death, he tells me he doesn't know what happened to her. But he believes, looking back, he could have stopped something from happening.
"When I seen her on Christmas, she asked me to come spend the night with her," he explained. "I should've spent the night there because she went missing, I think, that next day."
But whether or not he really could have saved her is speculation. And now, speculation shifts to who did it.
"People think they know what happened. I think i know what happened. I think Shawn Adkins kidnapped my niece in the morning sometime and killed her, I guess. But you can't put the blame on somebody until you know what happened," Ostrander said.
Speculation also falls on Billie Dunn. But, Del tells us that he doesn't think his sister was involved.
"My sister, I've known my sister for 26 years," he said. "My sister ain't that kind of person."
Del says he hasn't seen or talked to anyone since the memorial a few weeks ago, which was an emotional experience for him.
"I was okay until they started reading that piece of paper," he said.
Still difficult to talk about weeks later..
"Then they started showing the pictures of her," he continued. "I couldn't take that stuff. I had to get out of there."
And if he could say anything to Hailey?
"That I love her and I miss her and I wish she was here right now."
Ostrander admitted to taking a polygraph test a few months after Hailey's disappearance, but claims to know what what the results were. No one has been arrested since her remains were identified in late April.
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Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
Was CJ also arrested on drug charges that same night? If he shot at LE why would they arrest him for "capitol murder" unless he actually killed an LE???gnreed wrote:Del was interviewed by Ktab TV last night in the Taylor County Jail.
He stated he believes Shawn Adkins kidnapped and killed Hailey. Don't know if he kidnapped her..is he saying SA held Hailey against her will? If that's what he means then I agree..I definitely agree SA killed her.
He also said he doesn't believe his sister (BD) had anything to do with it.
Del had a partner in crime when arrested earlier this week.
Christopher Johnson is charged with attempted capitol murder, possession of a firearm by felon, and numerous other charges. Gnreed, are you saying that when Del was arrested, this 'Christopher Johnson' was arrested at the same time as he actually murdered someone in Del's presence? Do you know Specifically what "drug(s)" Del was caught manufacturing????
I am assuming he shot at LE when being busted on the drug charges.
Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
Nama wrote:Del Ostrander, Hailey Dunn's uncle and Billie Dunn's brother, was arrested for drug possession, but is speaking out about his niece's death.
"I don't have no kind of involvement with my niece missing," said Del. (In most logics and some languages, double negatives cancel one another and produce an affirmative sense.....Nama) Amen, Nama!!
It's been two and a half years since Hailey Dunn went missing.And her uncle is finally speaking out.
"The day she went missing, I was in county jail," he said. "I got out of jail that day." Interesting..so he has an iron clad alibi. That doesn't mean he does not know what really happened.
Though some have suspected his involvement with Hailey's death, he tells me he doesn't know what happened to her. But he believes, looking back, he could have stopped something from happening.
"When I seen her on Christmas, she asked me to come spend the night with her," he explained. "I should've spent the night there because she went missing, I think, that next day." "Come spend the night WITH her." Ugh! The wording is Creepy!
But whether or not he really could have saved her is speculation. And now, speculation shifts to who did it.
"People think they know what happened. I think i know what happened. I think Shawn Adkins kidnapped my niece in the morning sometime and killed her, I guess. But you can't put the blame on somebody until you know what happened," Ostrander said. This statement makes zero sense. He 'thinks' he knows what happened but then says you cannot put the blame on somebody UNTIL you know what happens.' Does he think SA is going to draw him a map and let him record his confession so he can put it on You Tube??
Speculation also falls on Billie Dunn. But, Del tells us that he doesn't think his sister was involved.
"My sister, I've known my sister for 26 years," he said. "My sister ain't that kind of person." Really? She's into child porn and slasher music/videos. She Lied to LE when Shawn was in her house..she went to the ATM twice to score 'drugs' (per her testimony) the night Hailey 'went missing'. Their mother went to jail for possession. GMAB!
Del says he hasn't seen or talked to anyone since the memorial a few weeks ago, which was an emotional experience for him.
"I was okay until they started reading that piece of paper," he said.
Still difficult to talk about weeks later..
"Then they started showing the pictures of her," he continued. "I couldn't take that stuff. I had to get out of there."
And if he could say anything to Hailey?
"That I love her and I miss her and I wish she was here right now."
Ostrander admitted to taking a polygraph test a few months after Hailey's disappearance, but claims to know what what the results were. No one has been arrested since her remains were identified in late April. "But claims to KNOW what what ((typo)) the results were." Should this read: Ostrander admitted to taking a poly a few months after Hailey disappeared but claims to NOT know what the results were"? LE NEVER gives the person the results unless they were inconclusive on a few responses and then it's re-administered.
I say B to the S. Ostrander KNOWS what happened. Wasn't he roomies w/Shawn in Austin???Poly him now that he's in Taylor County jail..and what about Mitchell and that other county?? And, whre the Hell is Shawn????
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Wrap,
I read the report again. It's not certain if Mr. Johnson was with Del or was arrested on seperate unrelated charges.
What I do know is that both are out of Mitchell County (Colorado City)
Why they are in Taylor County Jail, I have no idea. Could be a large drug bust has the jail full in CC and/or they want to keep them seperated.
I read the report again. It's not certain if Mr. Johnson was with Del or was arrested on seperate unrelated charges.
What I do know is that both are out of Mitchell County (Colorado City)
Why they are in Taylor County Jail, I have no idea. Could be a large drug bust has the jail full in CC and/or they want to keep them seperated.
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Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
Did Johnson murder a LE agent? If so, when?
If there was a 'large drug bust' in Mitchell County wouldn't you know about it?
If there was a 'large drug bust' in Mitchell County wouldn't you know about it?
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It was an "attempted capital murder charge. That means he probably shot "at" LE.
I continue to search for info. I am getting nothing.
I find it interesting the news media did not tell why Del was in jail.
Could be LE requested they keep quiet.
IMO
I continue to search for info. I am getting nothing.
I find it interesting the news media did not tell why Del was in jail.
Could be LE requested they keep quiet.
IMO
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WOW!! Does this Johnson dude have any drug arrests? He's a convicted felon, right? For what..if you know? Are you positive he associates w/Del?
If YOU can't find anything on Del that speaks Volumes as you evidently have access to things of this nature.
Ya, maybe they DO want to keep him quiet..maybe they are bargaining w/him to give up all info he really KNOWS about Hailey's murder.
Please keep us posted and Thanks!
If YOU can't find anything on Del that speaks Volumes as you evidently have access to things of this nature.
Ya, maybe they DO want to keep him quiet..maybe they are bargaining w/him to give up all info he really KNOWS about Hailey's murder.
Please keep us posted and Thanks!
Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
Wrap,
I am not sure if he was associated with Del or not. I just know both were transported to Taylor County for charges out of Mitchell County.
The media for some reason is not asking or giving details.
I could be wrong but I believe something may be going on. Normally when there is an arrest for evading LE, shooting at LE, and being busted for delivery of drugs, it makes the news.
I am not sure if he was associated with Del or not. I just know both were transported to Taylor County for charges out of Mitchell County.
The media for some reason is not asking or giving details.
I could be wrong but I believe something may be going on. Normally when there is an arrest for evading LE, shooting at LE, and being busted for delivery of drugs, it makes the news.
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Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
Maybe it's a coincidence and Del has zero to do w/this Johnson character? Maybe they got arrested the same day but at different times??
It IS odd both are in Taylor County if their crimes were committed in Mitchell County.
Re: 'making the news'..ya, that's a small area..would bet lots of things 'make the news' that wouldn't in big cities..but even someone shooting at LE would most Definitely make the news in any city..large or small.
Keep us posted and Thanks!
It IS odd both are in Taylor County if their crimes were committed in Mitchell County.
Re: 'making the news'..ya, that's a small area..would bet lots of things 'make the news' that wouldn't in big cities..but even someone shooting at LE would most Definitely make the news in any city..large or small.
Keep us posted and Thanks!
Re: # 8 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX for three years/ UPDATE 04/26/13:Sources: Scurry County remains identified as Hailey Dunn
I come from a very small community. It really isnt strange to have someone sent to another county jail if the jail is over crowded or if there are 2 or more involved in the same crime they will keep one in this county and one in another.
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Two arrested for delivery of meth
delostranderkevinruthColorado City Police Officers arrested two males on May 26th after finding drugs and packaging materials in the vehicle that was stopped during a routine traffic stop.
Del Ostrander, 26, and Kevin Ruth, 25, were arrested and charged with manufacturing or delivery of a controlled substance. Both men also had outstanding warrants, one in Mitchell County and one in Scurry County.
While on patrol in the area of the 1200 block of Westpoint Avenue, an officer saw a pickup belonging to an individual with an outstanding warrant. After a brief pursuit of the vehicle, a stop was made in the 300 block of Austin Street.
Both Ostrander and Ruth were arrested and methamphetamines were found during a search of the vehicle, along with materials used to divide and package the controlled substance.
According to the Mitchell County Sheriff’s Office, Ostrander was charged with manufacture/delivery of a controlled substance, a Class 1 Felony; criminal mischief and evading arrest, a Class 3 Felony. Bond amounts were set at $50,000, $7,500 and $1,500.
Ruth was charged with manufacture/delivery of a controlled substance, Class 1 Felony; possession of drug paraphernalia, Class C Misdemeanor; and Theft by Check. Bond amounts were set at $50,000, $500 and $1,500.
Both suspects remain in custody at Mitchell County Jail.
Two arrested for delivery of meth
delostranderkevinruthColorado City Police Officers arrested two males on May 26th after finding drugs and packaging materials in the vehicle that was stopped during a routine traffic stop.
Del Ostrander, 26, and Kevin Ruth, 25, were arrested and charged with manufacturing or delivery of a controlled substance. Both men also had outstanding warrants, one in Mitchell County and one in Scurry County.
While on patrol in the area of the 1200 block of Westpoint Avenue, an officer saw a pickup belonging to an individual with an outstanding warrant. After a brief pursuit of the vehicle, a stop was made in the 300 block of Austin Street.
Both Ostrander and Ruth were arrested and methamphetamines were found during a search of the vehicle, along with materials used to divide and package the controlled substance.
According to the Mitchell County Sheriff’s Office, Ostrander was charged with manufacture/delivery of a controlled substance, a Class 1 Felony; criminal mischief and evading arrest, a Class 3 Felony. Bond amounts were set at $50,000, $7,500 and $1,500.
Ruth was charged with manufacture/delivery of a controlled substance, Class 1 Felony; possession of drug paraphernalia, Class C Misdemeanor; and Theft by Check. Bond amounts were set at $50,000, $500 and $1,500.
Both suspects remain in custody at Mitchell County Jail.
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Thanks gnreed! It looks like those two will be doing some prison time.
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I thought they were in Taylor County???
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He and his FB make me sick!!raine1953 wrote:Thanks gnreed! It looks like those two will be doing some prison time.
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Del is and remains in Taylor County. I'm not sure why. They may want to separate he and Kevin Ruth since it's a small jail in CC and they could talk freely which might jeopardize the case against them.
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Hailey Dunn Updates & Discussion
Bea Wacker
Seems Ole SKEEEEE and his Ping Map and Dead Zones Just burns his Ass..If you are in a dead Zone,,your cell will not pick up another Tower..your cell Phone will say NO SERVICE PERIOD..
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SKEoD
Bea, that is what i thought a "dead zone" to mean. so i asked Erica to "define what you mean by "dead zone"".
she answered with, "attempting to locate a signal off a tower." i understand what info she is talking about, therefore i understand what she meant by dead zones. it may show NO SERVICE, but it looks for service by trying to connect to other towers. it is a spot that service cannot be picked up, blocked somehow, electromagnetic interferrence and even large building structures, down in a ravine..... will cause you to lose signal. close by towers will try to find your phone signal. ping ping ping
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Erica Morse
"showed several cell-phone pings inside a dead zone reportedly coming from Adkins' phone on the morning of Monday"
Hailey Dunn Updates & Discussion
dead zone??? wtf? there are no pings in a "dead zone" , how did they get pings from his phone if it couldn't communicate with a tower? lmfao. define what you mean by "dead zone" please.
Erica Morse
The information is 100% accurate and confirmed with multiple sources within law enforcement. Cell phones can ping inside dead zones when they're attempting to locate a signal off a tower. But the person who posted that is obviously far too uneducated to realize that. Perhaps she should go back to her bon-bons and leave this to the professionals.
Hailey Dunn Updates & Discussion
ok thanks for defining what you meant by "dead zones".
**************
Bea Wacker
No I did Not and if Le had that Info why were we the Searchers NOT given that info to go search is my Question.
Erica Morse
"In March 2011.... an area that showed several cell-phone pings inside a dead zone ....morning of Monday, December 27, 2010. ....... authorities were able to validate the cell phone pings in Scurry County........ encouraged local searchers to focus their efforts within that four-to-six-mile radius."
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"encouraged local searchers to focus their efforts "
see, LE did Bea, and i even had some searchers tell me about that "four-to-six-mile radius", so i know they were told about the pings in the "dead zone".
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more at above link.
Bea Wacker
Seems Ole SKEEEEE and his Ping Map and Dead Zones Just burns his Ass..If you are in a dead Zone,,your cell will not pick up another Tower..your cell Phone will say NO SERVICE PERIOD..
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SKEoD
Bea, that is what i thought a "dead zone" to mean. so i asked Erica to "define what you mean by "dead zone"".
she answered with, "attempting to locate a signal off a tower." i understand what info she is talking about, therefore i understand what she meant by dead zones. it may show NO SERVICE, but it looks for service by trying to connect to other towers. it is a spot that service cannot be picked up, blocked somehow, electromagnetic interferrence and even large building structures, down in a ravine..... will cause you to lose signal. close by towers will try to find your phone signal. ping ping ping
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Erica Morse
"showed several cell-phone pings inside a dead zone reportedly coming from Adkins' phone on the morning of Monday"
Hailey Dunn Updates & Discussion
dead zone??? wtf? there are no pings in a "dead zone" , how did they get pings from his phone if it couldn't communicate with a tower? lmfao. define what you mean by "dead zone" please.
Erica Morse
The information is 100% accurate and confirmed with multiple sources within law enforcement. Cell phones can ping inside dead zones when they're attempting to locate a signal off a tower. But the person who posted that is obviously far too uneducated to realize that. Perhaps she should go back to her bon-bons and leave this to the professionals.
Hailey Dunn Updates & Discussion
ok thanks for defining what you meant by "dead zones".
**************
Bea Wacker
No I did Not and if Le had that Info why were we the Searchers NOT given that info to go search is my Question.
Erica Morse
"In March 2011.... an area that showed several cell-phone pings inside a dead zone ....morning of Monday, December 27, 2010. ....... authorities were able to validate the cell phone pings in Scurry County........ encouraged local searchers to focus their efforts within that four-to-six-mile radius."
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"encouraged local searchers to focus their efforts "
see, LE did Bea, and i even had some searchers tell me about that "four-to-six-mile radius", so i know they were told about the pings in the "dead zone".
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more at above link.
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Hailey Dunn Updates & Discussion
ok so i am seeing a new pattern going on here.
erica exposing what i was told by many to be confidential info about cell pings from the dead zone.
someone exposing what i was told to be confidential photos of evidence on WOJ page.
at the same time, strong supporters of LE, and those who strongly believe Shawn and/or Billie were responsible for Hailey missing/death.... they seem to have disappeared.
various "Shawn and billie are guilty" bash pages have become inactive.
so am i to think that, Shawn is no longer a suspect and any evidence on him is no longer confidential... and Billie is no longer a POI either?
just asking, cause i didnt get the memo.
(SKE)
ok so i am seeing a new pattern going on here.
erica exposing what i was told by many to be confidential info about cell pings from the dead zone.
someone exposing what i was told to be confidential photos of evidence on WOJ page.
at the same time, strong supporters of LE, and those who strongly believe Shawn and/or Billie were responsible for Hailey missing/death.... they seem to have disappeared.
various "Shawn and billie are guilty" bash pages have become inactive.
so am i to think that, Shawn is no longer a suspect and any evidence on him is no longer confidential... and Billie is no longer a POI either?
just asking, cause i didnt get the memo.
(SKE)
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