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#4 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City,TX/Search Affidavits released in Feb - page 3/Billie denies knowledge of beastiality images& child porn on computer of Shawn Adkins, primary suspect, & memory stick found in Billie's home/Billie arrested 03/17
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Re: #4 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City,TX/Search Affidavits released in Feb - page 3/Billie denies knowledge of beastiality images& child porn on computer of Shawn Adkins, primary suspect, & memory stick found in Billie's home/Billie arrested 03/17
Slys Hunny I totally agree.
Reading the TBT posting just before yours something kind of hit me.
Why is it that Billie tells things before they need to be told. She is old enough to button her lip.
Such as failing the poly and buying drugs and Shawns cheating.
I wonder what the analysis is on why she continues to do that.
Reading the TBT posting just before yours something kind of hit me.
Why is it that Billie tells things before they need to be told. She is old enough to button her lip.
Such as failing the poly and buying drugs and Shawns cheating.
I wonder what the analysis is on why she continues to do that.
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jeanne1807 wrote:Slys Hunny I totally agree.
Reading the TBT posting just before yours something kind of hit me.
Why is it that Billie tells things before they need to be told. She is old enough to button her lip.
Such as failing the poly and buying drugs and Shawns cheating.
I wonder what the analysis is on why she continues to do that.
Imo, it's control. She wants to put per spin on things before the incriminating information is released by someone else.
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TBT-thank you for putting in to words my thoughts exactly.
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I am wondering about that breathing question that seems so important.
What is the point? Does anybody happen to know?
What is the point? Does anybody happen to know?
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NO, I don't. Been pondering that one all night.
Like in the HaLeigh Cummings case, I wonder if there was a nebulizer? Only -Hailey Dunn didn't use it. BJD and SA did. For inhalation of drugs. Was it disposed of? In their trash in the landfill? Was there a prescription for Hailey for something? Did David reveal something regarding Hailey having a hard time breathing? Broken ribs?
Who knows?
Like in the HaLeigh Cummings case, I wonder if there was a nebulizer? Only -Hailey Dunn didn't use it. BJD and SA did. For inhalation of drugs. Was it disposed of? In their trash in the landfill? Was there a prescription for Hailey for something? Did David reveal something regarding Hailey having a hard time breathing? Broken ribs?
Who knows?
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Good question Jeanne and good guesses Charming. It's been bugging me too. Why did the hosts ask Billie that question twice in a short amount of time? Felt like there was a purpose and they expected a certain answer. I wish Billie had asked why the question was posed.
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Billie does not ask why. She tells what she wants you to know.
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If BD is the leader of the pack, as some here are saying..I find it very hard to believe that Shawn wouldn't spill the beans to clear his name.
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Wrapitup wrote:If BD is the leader of the pack, as some here are saying..I find it very hard to believe that Shawn wouldn't spill the beans to clear his name.
I scanned several sites today. Based on what I read, our opinions here at VH are fairly representative of posters in general. Almost all posters believe that Billie and Shawn are working as a team and both are actively involved in Hailey's disappearance. Many posters think Billie is the driver, with Shawn as the willing partner and cover-up guy. More posters think Shawn is the driver and Billie has been covering for him from the start, with no regard for Hailey. I didn't come across a single post expressing belief that either was innocent or unknowing. I personally believe strongly that Billie is the driver, but it doesn't really matter. Whether they both harmed Hailey and planned the aftermath jointly, or one of them harmed Hailey with aid and cover from the other, they are equally guilty in my book. They are partners in a fatal crime against a child, imo. It doesn't get any lower (unless you throw in the vileness of child pornography). The pain and web of lies these two jointly inflicted upon Hailey, Hailey's loved ones, and the concerned public is immeasurable and unforgivable. I believe they will be held accountable for their roles... I have faith... Hailey is the only victim here; justice for Hailey.
Justice is sweet, but nothing can make up for what Hailey lost.
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by truthbtold Today at 23:50
I am thinking of the Zahra Baker case. Elise Baker was arrested for several charges on a very high bond...before she was actually indicted for murder.
I think the same should apply w/Billie and Shawn.
TBT, you said the above brilliantly. I, too, have been on several blogs and facebook and could not find one person that thought either was unknowing or innocent. Some believe that Billie found out what Shawn did After the fact..I personally am still on the fence when it comes to Billie being THE person who killed or traded Hailey to sex traffickers. Be that as it may, I DO believe both know what happened to Hailey, and I think it's about damned time there is an arrest in this case..I say, arrest Both of them for the child porn and beastiality and LE can file more charges later.I didn't come across a single post expressing belief that thought either was innocent or unknowing. I personally believe strongly that Billie is the driver, but it doesn't really matter. Whether they both harmed Hailey and planned the aftermath jointly, or one of them harmed Hailey with aid and cover from the other, they are equally guilty in my book.
I am thinking of the Zahra Baker case. Elise Baker was arrested for several charges on a very high bond...before she was actually indicted for murder.
I think the same should apply w/Billie and Shawn.
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samgoodwin wrote:
Coming soon, I hope:
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I just read on another blog that on Christmas Day, there was an "altercation" between Billie and Hailey over Hailey wanting to live with her dad.
When I see or hear the world, "altercation", I immediately picture a fight...with fists or some type of item...hitting each other, etc.
I had heard that Yes, Hailey (and I think David, too) wanted to live with Clint. However, I remember Billie saying they all had a great Christmas and we saw the pics that show them looking happy and content IMO.
So, IF this "altercation" is true, how would these posters know that? I have yet to see a link to prove it. I am NOT saying it didn't happen..as I do think Billie is a ticking time bomb and cares more for Shawn than she does her own children.
If anyone has a link to an "altercation" between Billie and Hailey, please post it. Thanks in advance!!
When I see or hear the world, "altercation", I immediately picture a fight...with fists or some type of item...hitting each other, etc.
I had heard that Yes, Hailey (and I think David, too) wanted to live with Clint. However, I remember Billie saying they all had a great Christmas and we saw the pics that show them looking happy and content IMO.
So, IF this "altercation" is true, how would these posters know that? I have yet to see a link to prove it. I am NOT saying it didn't happen..as I do think Billie is a ticking time bomb and cares more for Shawn than she does her own children.
If anyone has a link to an "altercation" between Billie and Hailey, please post it. Thanks in advance!!
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Below is pasted from a January 8th article (link below text).Wrapitup wrote:I just read on another blog that on Christmas Day, there was an "altercation" between Billie and Hailey over Hailey wanting to live with her dad.
When I see or hear the world, "altercation", I immediately picture a fight...with fists or some type of item...hitting each other, etc.
I had heard that Yes, Hailey (and I think David, too) wanted to live with Clint. However, I remember Billie saying they all had a great Christmas and we saw the pics that show them looking happy and content IMO.
So, IF this "altercation" is true, how would these posters know that? I have yet to see a link to prove it. I am NOT saying it didn't happen..as I do think Billie is a ticking time bomb and cares more for Shawn than she does her own children.
If anyone has a link to an "altercation" between Billie and Hailey, please post it. Thanks in advance!!
Cecilia Garcia said she had never interacted with Dunn’s extended family.
The first time she saw Hailey’s mother was on television, she said. And Hailey never had spent the night at friend’s her house, even though two were close friends.
Mary Beth Garcia, her mother said, had visited the Dunns’ home overnight.
“My daughter, I let her visit her and spend the night,” she said. “And the last time I did, I didn’t like it, because I heard they were walking the street with other kids”
Garcia said she never let her daughter spend the night at the home again.
Later, she said that her daughter told her that Dunn had expressed a desire to move in with her birth father, which Garcia said her daughter indicated led to a family altercation around Christmastime.
Donna Byerley met Hailey her through Byerley’s boyfriend, who had once dated a relative of Billie Jean Dunn. She described the girl’s home life as “volatile at times.”
Byerley characterized the 13-year-old as not getting along with her mother’s boyfriend, and Hailey herself as always wandering “here and there,” coming and going largely “as she pleases.”
But rather than a little girl lost, Byerley painted a picture of a compassionate person, whether it was taking care of a mutual friend of a family pet, a girl who remained “very much an individual,” with an honest style of communication whether talking about school, family or friends.
Dunn has stayed with Byerley and her boyfriend off and on, including the last two weeks of the previous school year, Byerley said.
“That was the school year that I think she started in Colorado City, went to Snyder a month or so, and then back to Colorado City,” she said.
“The last few weeks, perhaps month, she was living with her Dad because she doesn’t like the boyfriend,” Byerley said, referring to Adkins.
Her mother’s new relationship, and worries that it was preventing her parents from being together, served as a partial catalyst for Hailey’s difficulties with Adkins, Byerley said.
Billie Jean Dunn said she met on the social network site MySpace.
“I know he yelled at her,” she said of Hailey’s relationship with Adkins, though she said she knew of no accusations of physical or other abuse.
In public statements, Billie Jean Dunn has said that while Hailey initially had issues with Adkins, she had warmed to him as time went on.
Similarly, Byerley said Clint and Billie Jean Dunn’s relationship often was rocky.
“They’ve always had blowouts — screaming, yelling,” she said.
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Here is what Billie had to say about it:Wrapitup wrote:I just read on another blog that on Christmas Day, there was an "altercation" between Billie and Hailey over Hailey wanting to live with her dad.
When I see or hear the world, "altercation", I immediately picture a fight...with fists or some type of item...hitting each other, etc.
I had heard that Yes, Hailey (and I think David, too) wanted to live with Clint. However, I remember Billie saying they all had a great Christmas and we saw the pics that show them looking happy and content IMO.
So, IF this "altercation" is true, how would these posters know that? I have yet to see a link to prove it. I am NOT saying it didn't happen..as I do think Billie is a ticking time bomb and cares more for Shawn than she does her own children.
If anyone has a link to an "altercation" between Billie and Hailey, please post it. Thanks in advance!!
Billie Dunn: No, I don’t think around Christmas time, probably not recently, but yeah, she had gotten mad at me or David or Shawn, she would want to, say she would want to live with her dad, and she’d go spend the night with her dad, and come back the next day, and say she was mad at them, and I’d finally told her, “We’re not playing that game any more. You’re gonna stay at home. You’re not gonna run back and forth.”
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I still want to know what this is about.
Host: Some people say Hailey stuck her nose in places that she shouldn’t have. How do you respond to that?
Billie Dunn: You know, people don’t need to judge my thirteen year old daughter. You don’t start dragging her into this, trying to talk bad about her. She’s nosy. So what?
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Host: Some people say Hailey stuck her nose in places that she shouldn’t have. How do you respond to that?
Billie Dunn: You know, people don’t need to judge my thirteen year old daughter. You don’t start dragging her into this, trying to talk bad about her. She’s nosy. So what?
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I agree, BJ. Between that and asking Billie about Hailey coughing a lot, what gives?
TBT, thanks for the link. It seems to me that Billie would welcome Clint having the kids full time...unless it comes down to child support issues which I doubt had been written in stone yet, as they are both still legally married to one another.
TBT, thanks for the link. It seems to me that Billie would welcome Clint having the kids full time...unless it comes down to child support issues which I doubt had been written in stone yet, as they are both still legally married to one another.
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I had a chance to speak to CD and ND yesterday. CD has really cleaned up and looks well.
But he continues to struggle with the nightmare of what may have happened to Hailey.
He made reference to SA a number of times which leads me to believe he is believing now SA is guilty.
I am hoping a Special Grand Jury meets and arrests are made before media or the public is aware.
I am concerned about CD doing something if he receives information beforehand.
JMO
But he continues to struggle with the nightmare of what may have happened to Hailey.
He made reference to SA a number of times which leads me to believe he is believing now SA is guilty.
I am hoping a Special Grand Jury meets and arrests are made before media or the public is aware.
I am concerned about CD doing something if he receives information beforehand.
JMO
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gnreed Today at 9:54
And, I agree. I think it would be for the best if those two were arrested and charged w/child porn/beastiality and possibly murder sans the news media.
gnreed, what specifically are you concerned about? Did Clint Dunn act crazed in any way? Please..if you can...let us know your thoughts.I am hoping a Special Grand Jury meets and arrests are made before media or the public is aware.
I am concerned about CD doing something if he receives information beforehand.
And, I agree. I think it would be for the best if those two were arrested and charged w/child porn/beastiality and possibly murder sans the news media.
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gnreed I just can't give Clint a pass in all of this. If we know Billie and Shawn from these couple of months then surely Clint had some idea of the type of homelife his daughter was living in.
He knew BD from being..and still married to her.
He allowed Hailey to be exposed to all the filth at that home.
Is Clint working or still on the dole? Is he out searching or just sitting and waiting.
In my mind Clint needs to "man up". That sounds cruel but he has behaved like a child long enough.
He has several children that need him now. Plus a new family he created that he needs to take care of.
Panhandling is not the income he should be counting on.
I know this sounds cruel and I am about to just cancel this whole post. But Clint never seems to be doing the right thing in my eyes.
Where was he when he knew Hailey needed him?
He knew BD from being..and still married to her.
He allowed Hailey to be exposed to all the filth at that home.
Is Clint working or still on the dole? Is he out searching or just sitting and waiting.
In my mind Clint needs to "man up". That sounds cruel but he has behaved like a child long enough.
He has several children that need him now. Plus a new family he created that he needs to take care of.
Panhandling is not the income he should be counting on.
I know this sounds cruel and I am about to just cancel this whole post. But Clint never seems to be doing the right thing in my eyes.
Where was he when he knew Hailey needed him?
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Thanks gnreed!
I worry about Clint when he moves from denial to anger as well. You could see the pent up fear and anxiety when he first appeared with Billie on Nancy Grace - he looked ready to explode at any moment. bringthemhome posted the above picture earlier this week. You can really see it in this photo too, imo. I hope arrests are truly imminent; would hate to see Clint take matters into his own hands and find himself in trouble again...
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I think it would be Stupid for Clint to take matters in his own hands at this juncture. He could have "taken matters into his own hands" over 3 years ago when Billie started seeing Shawn and Hailey (and I would bet, David, too) was complaining to her father and grandmother that she did NOT like Shawn, that she was AFRAID of Shawn. Three years is a long time to be together. Did Hailey complain about Shawn from the time she was 10?
Now, Clint wants to "man up" by taking matters into his own hands when the writing has been on the wall for years. I say, LE needs to keep an eye on Clint Dunn while they go about (hopefully) arresting the lovebirds from hell.
Now, Clint wants to "man up" by taking matters into his own hands when the writing has been on the wall for years. I say, LE needs to keep an eye on Clint Dunn while they go about (hopefully) arresting the lovebirds from hell.
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jeanne1807 wrote:gnreed I just can't give Clint a pass in all of this. If we know Billie and Shawn from these couple of months then surely Clint had some idea of the type of homelife his daughter was living in.
He knew BD from being..and still married to her.
He allowed Hailey to be exposed to all the filth at that home.
Is Clint working or still on the dole? Is he out searching or just sitting and waiting.
In my mind Clint needs to "man up". That sounds cruel but he has behaved like a child long enough.
He has several children that need him now. Plus a new family he created that he needs to take care of.
Panhandling is not the income he should be counting on.
I know this sounds cruel and I am about to just cancel this whole post. But Clint never seems to be doing the right thing in my eyes.
Where was he when he knew Hailey needed him?
I hope this case has the same impact on Clint Dunn as the the Tori Stafford case had on her dad. He loved his daughter, but he was on drugs and not very involved in Tori's life, much less so than Clint who was trying to stay geographically close and left his door open to Hailey any time (by his and Billie's own accounts). Tori's dad was devastated by Tori's disappearance and death (at the hands of local drug-addicted deviant love birds). He is clean and sober and now rides his bicycle across Canada with Tori's brother at least annually and has helped raised a lot of money as a child advocate. Tori's dad and Hailey's dad can't take back their previous shortcomings or change the past, but I see the deep love Clint has for Hailey every time he speaks; it's in his eyes, his body language, and his voice - undeniable. There is no indication that Clint has ever been suspected of any involvement in Hailey's disappearance. Despite the fact that he was a lazy stoner, he did not deserve to have Hailey ripped from his life; he will live with incredible guilt and loss forever, imo. The people who caused Hailey's demise and lied about it own full responsibility for their actions. They've shamelessly tried to deflect suspicion and responsibility to Hailey's dad, Hailey's dad's girlfriend, Hailey's uncle Brian G, Hailey's friend MaryBeth, sex traffickers, and an unknown abductor, imo. They can't run from the truth and lay the responsibility on others. They are the only one's responsible for their heinous actions. That's where my anger is directed. JMO.
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Wrapitup wrote:I think it would be Stupid for Clint to take matters in his own hands at this juncture. He could have "taken matters into his own hands" over 3 years ago when Billie started seeing Shawn and Hailey (and I would bet, David, too) was complaining to her father and grandmother that she did NOT like Shawn, that she was AFRAID of Shawn. Three years is a long time to be together. Did Hailey complain about Shawn from the time she was 10?
Now, Clint wants to "man up" by taking matters into his own hands when the writing has been on the wall for years. I say, LE needs to keep an eye on Clint Dunn while they go about (hopefully) arresting the lovebirds from hell.
I don't think Clint has ever said he's going to man up and take matters into his own hands (sorry, didn't mean to attribute these words or feelings to Clint). He's not pulling a Ronald Cummings and making death threats and accusations. He may have more self restraint than most; I just said that I personally was worried that he might be driven to take action if he becomes convinced Hailey died at the hands of Shawn and/or Billie. Just my concern and opinion. I think anyone who loved their child would be tempted to seek retribution in the same situation. Just hoping he won't have the opportunity even if he experiences the temptation. If it takes an arrest and solid proof for Clint to accept what happened, it would probably be best for Shawn and anyone else involved to be far out of reach (or under 24/7 surveillance). I agree with you Wrap, it's in everyone's best interest to get the suspects behinds bar as soon as possible (but with charges that will stick long enough to put the full Hailey case together). JMO...
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TBT, I wholeheartedly agree that Clint Dunn is NO Ronald Cummings (Thank God!). Personally, I have no beef w/Clint..only that I wish he would have, or could have done something proactive to get custody of his children while Hailey was still around. Now, it's too late. I am sure Clint suffers in silence more than we could ever know.
I would really love to know just what took place in the past 3 years..what were the family dynamics in Billie's home with Shawn there and having a 10 year old daughter around a man who loves blood and guts/child porn and beastiality?
What were the family dynamics at Clint's? Did Clint know Shawn prior to him getting together with his wife? Did Hailey and David complain about Shawn and/or state they were afraid of him? Did Clint try to do anything about it or did he stay in a marijuana fog during the past three years?
I would really love to know just what took place in the past 3 years..what were the family dynamics in Billie's home with Shawn there and having a 10 year old daughter around a man who loves blood and guts/child porn and beastiality?
What were the family dynamics at Clint's? Did Clint know Shawn prior to him getting together with his wife? Did Hailey and David complain about Shawn and/or state they were afraid of him? Did Clint try to do anything about it or did he stay in a marijuana fog during the past three years?
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I was pleased to read Clint is cleaning up. I am not really worried about him snapping. I think because he has another little girl to take care of he will hold it together for her.
Clinton Dunn, whose daughter Hailey is missing, appears at the Traffick911 rally in Mansfield with his wife, Naomi, and 4-month-old daughter, Chloe.
Clinton Dunn, whose daughter Hailey is missing, appears at the Traffick911 rally in Mansfield with his wife, Naomi, and 4-month-old daughter, Chloe.
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Actually there was no "Clints". He was living with Naomi in that Section H housing. It was her home.
See thats the problem. Clint is just a rolling stone..gathering no moss.
Now he has a little baby girl. He needs to see that she is safe. I have no idea what his relationship is to David right now. He is not DD's father. DD is living with his uncle. Who knows.
Clint only moved in close to BD shortly before Hailey went missing. Before that he was up in Snyder by his mothers place.
I remember Clints mother saying Hailey used to spend a lot of time with her when Clint lived up that way. Thats the same grandma that Hailey told about Shawn paceing by her door at night. Told grandma she was scared. I am sure grandma didn't keep that to herself.
So my next question is this. Did Naomi move down by BD and then Clint joined her? Or how did that living arrangement happen?
I know they rolled out of Dodge shortly after Hailey went missing. A lot of things happened at the Naomi residence.
See thats the problem. Clint is just a rolling stone..gathering no moss.
Now he has a little baby girl. He needs to see that she is safe. I have no idea what his relationship is to David right now. He is not DD's father. DD is living with his uncle. Who knows.
Clint only moved in close to BD shortly before Hailey went missing. Before that he was up in Snyder by his mothers place.
I remember Clints mother saying Hailey used to spend a lot of time with her when Clint lived up that way. Thats the same grandma that Hailey told about Shawn paceing by her door at night. Told grandma she was scared. I am sure grandma didn't keep that to herself.
So my next question is this. Did Naomi move down by BD and then Clint joined her? Or how did that living arrangement happen?
I know they rolled out of Dodge shortly after Hailey went missing. A lot of things happened at the Naomi residence.
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Is this a picture from Christmas? The one where they were all so happy? Hailey does not look happy to me. Below is a happy picture of Hailey.
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Wrapitup wrote:Are those Clint and Naomi's bodyguards??
Must be from up at that Rattlesnake Rally they had on Saturday. They are all wearing nametags.
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I did not know this. He has his last name. Who is David's father??He is not DD's father
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I am always suprised at how few pictures there are of Hailey. I was transferring pictures the other day and we have tons of pictures of the kids.
I can count on my fingers the pictures of Hailey.
I can count on my fingers the pictures of Hailey.
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Wrapitup wrote:I did not know this. He has his last name. Who is David's father??He is not DD's father
I believe he is a guest of the state!
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I don't know. I did add the caption below the pictures.Wrapitup wrote:Are those Clint and Naomi's bodyguards??
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You mean, like this??? I wonder why he has Clint's last name. Did Clint adopt him? Poor David!!jeanne1807 wrote:Wrapitup wrote:I did not know this. He has his last name. Who is David's father??He is not DD's father
I believe his a guest of the state!
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That's what I asked. Like this?? or maybe like this???
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On another forum. David is not Clint's son. David's bio Dad is named David Allen Gloria.
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Name: Billie Jean Ostrander
Name: Hailey Darlene Dunn
Mother: Billie Jean Ostrander
Texas Birth Index,
Name: Delbert David Gloria
Birth County: Lubbock
Name: Delbert David Gloria
Mother: Billie Jean Ostrander
Birth: date - Lubbock
I copied and pasted here, from Ancestry.com, it's a pay site to show the rest.
On another forum. David is not Clint's son. David's bio Dad is named David Allen Gloria.
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Name: Billie Jean Ostrander
Name: Hailey Darlene Dunn
Mother: Billie Jean Ostrander
Texas Birth Index,
Name: Delbert David Gloria
Birth County: Lubbock
Name: Delbert David Gloria
Mother: Billie Jean Ostrander
Birth: date - Lubbock
I copied and pasted here, from Ancestry.com, it's a pay site to show the rest.
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David's dad's last name is Gloria, I believe. I also heard he is indeed receiving 3 squares. Clint said on his first BTHN blog talk interview that he regards David as his son. He said Billie "tricked him" and the school into thinking that David was Clint's legal son, some kind of paperwork deal - confusing. He learned later he had no legal parenting rights to David.
We don't know what really happened with all of this personal chiite, but imo, it's a safe bet there's been a lot of dysfunction surrounding Hailey and David for a very long time. JMO...
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We don't know what really happened with all of this personal chiite, but imo, it's a safe bet there's been a lot of dysfunction surrounding Hailey and David for a very long time. JMO...
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Check out the photos of Hailey at the Hailey tab: HopeforHailey.org
What a doll. There is one where she is turned to the side with side swept bangs - wouldn't even have recognized it was Hailey.
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What a doll. There is one where she is turned to the side with side swept bangs - wouldn't even have recognized it was Hailey.
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Thank goodness, she doesn't look like Billie at all. I think she is the spitting image of Clint.
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truthbtold wrote:Check out the photos of Hailey at the Hailey tab: HopeforHailey.org
What a doll. There is one where she is turned to the side with side swept bangs - wouldn't even have recognized it was Hailey.
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Thanks BJ! I couldn't successfully post the images; glad you did. We need more of Hailey's beautiful face.
The smaller photo without the ponytail is the one I think is almost unrecognizable as Hailey. She looks so much more mature than she does in the photo with Billie and Shawn on the couch, imo.
The smaller photo without the ponytail is the one I think is almost unrecognizable as Hailey. She looks so much more mature than she does in the photo with Billie and Shawn on the couch, imo.
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Wrapitup wrote:gnreed Today at 9:54gnreed, what specifically are you concerned about? Did Clint Dunn act crazed in any way? Please..if you can...let us know your thoughts.I am hoping a Special Grand Jury meets and arrests are made before media or the public is aware.
I am concerned about CD doing something if he receives information beforehand.
And, I agree. I think it would be for the best if those two were arrested and charged w/child porn/beastiality and possibly murder sans the news media.
Just the fact that the two of them, CD and SA have had their troubles in the past, I am concerned CD could become outraged if and when details are released, they could be very gruesome. I am not saying he will but it is a possibility. As I said earlier, I am hoping arrests come quickly to avoid any possibility of anything unfortunate happening.
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TBT do you know where those pictures came from? I mentioned earlier that there didn't seem to be many pictures of Hailey. I really like the ones you posted.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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gnreed wrote:Wrapitup wrote:gnreed Today at 9:54gnreed, what specifically are you concerned about? Did Clint Dunn act crazed in any way? Please..if you can...let us know your thoughts.I am hoping a Special Grand Jury meets and arrests are made before media or the public is aware.
I am concerned about CD doing something if he receives information beforehand.
And, I agree. I think it would be for the best if those two were arrested and charged w/child porn/beastiality and possibly murder sans the news media.
Just the fact that the two of them, CD and SA have had their troubles in the past, I am concerned CD could become outraged. I am not saying he will but it is a possibility. As I said earlier, I am hoping arrests come quickly to avoid any possibility of anything unfortunate happening.
Actually with this group of citizens nobody would be suprised at anything. Actually I am a bit suprised that nothing has happened so far.
Does anybody happen to know if Billies brother that just left the clink is still living with her?
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The 2 new pics of Hailey are beautiful. It just magnifies the tragedy of this whole dysfunctional family. Hailey looked like she was going to extract herself from the family legacy. Breaks my heart.
Hailey wanted to live and be with her dad. Here is a post from Hailey's facebook page regarding where to spend Thanksgiving. I think it expresses clearly where she wanted to be..
Hailey Dunn
Hmm...should i spend thanksgiving with my mom...or dad...DAD(so i can see my lil sis choe)
November 22, 2010 at 12:46pm
On a different note ....
There is lots of drama over on Peter Hyatt's blog. He had posted that Bea from BTHN was going to be a guest on his radio show tonite. Many trolls came out of the woodwork and posted hateful things. Not surprisingly, when I checked earlier, Bea has cancelled. She stated her Producers asked her to cancel. drama
I will be tuning into the blog radio show at 6:30pm EST. And Peter stated the chatroom would be open an hour before the show and two hours after. He will be in the chatroom to answer questions.
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Hailey wanted to live and be with her dad. Here is a post from Hailey's facebook page regarding where to spend Thanksgiving. I think it expresses clearly where she wanted to be..
Hailey Dunn
Hmm...should i spend thanksgiving with my mom...or dad...DAD(so i can see my lil sis choe)
November 22, 2010 at 12:46pm
On a different note ....
There is lots of drama over on Peter Hyatt's blog. He had posted that Bea from BTHN was going to be a guest on his radio show tonite. Many trolls came out of the woodwork and posted hateful things. Not surprisingly, when I checked earlier, Bea has cancelled. She stated her Producers asked her to cancel. drama
I will be tuning into the blog radio show at 6:30pm EST. And Peter stated the chatroom would be open an hour before the show and two hours after. He will be in the chatroom to answer questions.
Here is the link in case anyone is interested in joining:
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A little off topic. Is anyone else feeling a bit tired with the time change? I was up very late last night because my family had a party for my brother who is set to deploy to Afghanistan at the end of this month. So maybe it's just me. :zzzzz:
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