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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:03 am

lisette wrote:And I noticed that she needed the truck to pick up the science project, but not to take it...So it must have been set up the day before...I know there was a question about whether it was set up that morning or before...How cold-hearted and calculating can you get? To have that precious child, all grinning and proud of his project, pose for a picture that she could post on Facebook to corroborate her story after she had disposed of him...I hope they get something on her soon and arrest her...and whoever else helped her!!! angry

Lisette, I never thought of it in that way before! She seemed to have a dual personality (Jekyll & Hyde) - the caring mother, schoolteacher, devoted wife, etc., while also being the tough bodybuilder, murderous wife (at least plotting it), and quite likely the murderous step-mother! Scary indeed!!
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Post by Wrapitup on Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:31 am

BJ, how eerie for your family!!!! I don't know how they handled it as long as they did. I could not have slept there. No way!!

As far as Terri, I am at the point where I don't know what to think. If she had literally failed the poly's, they still could not arrest her.

I am still confused on if another child did or did not see Kyron at school after the science fair. And was there a truck (white) parked outside that this child also saw? What time was Kaine at the gym? What time was Terri at the gym? Would she have had time to put Kyron in a barrel and dump him in the Island. There is no question she is still probably strong enough.

Is it at all possible some perv grabbed him? Maybe he walked outside for whatever reason and someone grabbed him. Is is just a coincidence that Kaine and Terri had discussed divorce prior to Kyron's disappearance? Is is just a coincidence that Terri was 'sexting' with some dude AFTER Kyron went missing, and is it just a coincidence that Terri tried to hire a landscaper to "off" Kaine? She also doesn't seem to care about getting her daughter and only wants money.

So, I am not suppose to have any doubts about her integrity/guilt/motive? WTF

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Post by jeanne1807 on Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:10 am

Huckabee murdered the little girl, Sandra Cantu found in the drum I think in Florida. The ministers daughter arrested and now serving time due to a plea agreement.

Do you think she would have been charged if that drum had not been found with the little girls body inside.

This seems a bit similiar to me.
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Post by Wrapitup on Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:19 am

It's a cross between the Sandra Cantu cases and the HaLeigh Cummings case.

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Post by mommyof3kids on Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:50 pm

by jeanne1807 Today at 9:10 am

Huckabee murdered the little girl, Sandra Cantu found in the drum I think in Florida. The ministers daughter arrested and now serving time due to a plea agreement.

Do you think she would have been charged if that drum had not been found with the little girls body inside.

This seems a bit similiar to me.

MH put Sandra Cantu in a suitcase, then through the suitcase into an irrigation pond in Tracy California. Then reported that her suitcase was stolen then later she said she found a note stating that someone knows where little Sandra was thrown into said irrigation pond.

IMO MH is a selfish attention getting horror and I think wanted to get caught just to get attention. Poor little Sandra was in the wrong mobile home park at the wrong time. crying

I think these cases are somewhat similar in the fact that both of these women (only speculation on Terri) used these poor kids as a way to get attention. We could only hope that Terri comes forward with more information on the whereabouts of little Kyron!!
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Post by Wrapitup on Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:26 am

So damned sad!!! And, the all look so happy in their Snuggies!

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Post by jeanne1807 on Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:14 pm

If body language matters they surely look happy and comfortable in their Snuggies. I wonder when that picture was taken. This Christmas? I know Terri is not pregnant there and it must have been before the little girl was born or she would have been in the picture too.

Whatever went wrong?
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Post by Nama on Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:49 pm

The father of missing seven-year-old Kyron Horman attended three hours of meetings at the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office Tuesday.
KGW’s live truck was parked outside the sheriff’s office as Kaine Horman entered the building around 6 p.m. and left around 9 p.m. However, Kaine told KGW on the way out that he did not wish to comment on the three hours of meetings he had just attended.
Lt. Mary Lindstrand, a spokeswoman with the sheriff’s office, also told KGW she would not comment on why Kaine was there Tuesday.
Late Wednesday morning, Sheriff Daniel Staton released a statement to the media promising he was working to complete a thorough investigation, even if he could not elaborate on all the details.
“There are many decision points which are discussed and filtered among investigators, deputy district attorneys, command staff and other experts. Our detectives and searchers are continuing to follow up on many leads to include establishing and verifying information relating to Kyron's activities prior to his disappearance,” he said in the statement.
Staton told KGW he would accept written questions from reporters and then a written statement would be released no later than Friday in response to the questions submitted.

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Post by jeanne1807 on Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:26 pm

This afternoon on one of the television stations that said this case has cost $1,000,000. They are requesting another $400,000 to continue.

I wonder if that is what the meeting might have been about. Well one of the things.

Amazing.
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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:10 am

http://www.katu.com/news/local/98981009.html

Sources: Terri Horman vague on Kyron’s doctor appointment date
By Anna Song KATU News and KATU.com Staff

There was no expectation on the part of Skyline School that Kyron Horman would be in class after the science fair the day he disappeared, according to multiple sources.

Story Published: Jul 21, 2010 at 7:11 PM PDT Story Updated: Jul 21, 2010 at 8:38 PM PDT
Terri Horman. KATU News file photo.


PORTLAND, Ore. - There was no expectation on the part of Skyline School that Kyron Horman would be in class after the science fair the day he disappeared, according to multiple sources.

Prior to his June 4 disappearance, Kyron Horman’s stepmother, Terri Horman, informed his teacher he had a doctor’s appointment on Friday, the sources said, and it was why there was no expectation Kyron would be in class after the science fair. Once class began at 10 a.m., his teacher marked him absent.

According to sources, investigators believe Terri Horman was vague about which Friday she was referring to when she gave notice to the school Kyron would be gone and only after he was missing did she clarify that the doctor’s appointment was on June 11, the Friday after the science fair.

Portland Public Schools spokesperson Matt Shelby told KATU News, "Two teachers were the last school staff to see Kyron at Skyline. His own teacher and another teacher saw him inside the school with his stepmother, and there didn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary.”

Kim Holm’s son, Kurtis, who Terri Horman photographed with his science project around the time she took a picture of Kyron that morning, said her son knew about the appointment too.

“And the teacher said, ‘I thought he left with his mom,’ because they thought they had a doctor appointment,” Holm said. “And then at lunchtime, Kurtis ate lunch with him every day, he wasn’t there at lunchtime. And then I got a call at 4:30ish, saying he didn’t get off the bus, I guess. And Kurtis said, ‘Oh yeah, I knew he was already gone all day Mom.’”

At 1:21 that afternoon Terri Horman posted the science fair photos on her Facebook page. At 3:30 she went to meet Kyron’s school bus, which he never boarded. Then came her 9-1-1 call, and the search for Kyron began.

The issue of the doctor appointment is among several questions KATU News has submitted to Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton. He is expected to answer those questions, in writing, sometime in the next couple of days.

Terri Horman has not been named a suspect or person of interest in Kyron’s disappearance and there have been no arrests made in the case.

I find it hard to believe that LE is just now releasing this huge piece of news.

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Post by Nama on Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:44 am

The news about the doctor's appt......BIG!

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Normal Ann Rule Called the Hormans Within a Week of Kyron’s Disappearance

Post by Nama on Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:47 am

Law-enforcement sources have compared the Kyron Horman case to that of Diane Downs, the Oregon woman who shot her three children in 1983.

Ann Rule, the true-crime author who wrote the book on the Downs case, has already weighed in on Kyron’s disappearance.

And Oregonian columnist Anna Griffin wagers Rule is angling to write a book on the Kyron case as well.

Turns out Griffin is right. And Rule wasted no time in singling out the case for attention.

Kyron’s mom, Desiree Young, confirms to WW that Rule called the family just two weeks after Kyron’s June 4 disappearance. That was around the exact time we broke the story that investigators were focusing on Kyron’s stepmom, Terri Moulton Horman.

Young says the family spoke with Rule about the case during one phone conversation. Rule hasn’t called back since, Young says. The author told KOIN 6 she’s awaiting the outcome of the case to determine whether she wants to write a book.

http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/07/22/ann-rule-called-the-horman-within-a-week-of-kyrons-disappearance/

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Post by mommyof3kids on Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:21 pm

Portland Public Schools spokesperson Matt Shelby told KATU News, "Two teachers were the last school staff to see Kyron at Skyline. His own teacher and another teacher saw him inside the school with his stepmother, and there didn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary.”

Kim Holm’s son, Kurtis, who Terri Horman photographed with his science project around the time she took a picture of Kyron that morning, said her son knew about the appointment too.

“And the teacher said, ‘I thought he left with his mom,’ because they thought they had a doctor appointment,” Holm said. “And then at lunchtime, Kurtis ate lunch with him every day, he wasn’t there at lunchtime. And then I got a call at 4:30ish, saying he didn’t get off the bus, I guess. And Kurtis said, ‘Oh yeah, I knew he was already gone all day Mom.’”

This makes sense and clears up why the school didn't have any concern why Kyron wasn't at school after the science fair. I was so angry when this case started that the school did not call his home to do a check up call on him.

Our schools here in Salem do it all the time. I love our school, once my oldest Son's dad dropped him off late and he forgot to check him in so he was marked as absent, they called me by 9:30 to check up on him, then they realized he was in his class and was just late. The other time I got a call was when my oldest son decided to eat breakfast at school after eating breakfast at home and he was late.. OMG, I was so angry! LOL!! eat
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Post by lisette on Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:56 pm

This info strongly shows premeditation...She probably told the teacher on Thursday when she took the project that Kyron had an appointment "on Friday", deliberately not being clear about WHICH Friday (She probably really had made an appointment for June 11 to cover herself)...I'm wondering why the 7th Grader saw Kyron in the gym with some friends...She probably told him to go ahead and look at the projects and then come on out to the truck, that she had already told his teacher that he wouldn't be there, making him think that he would be coming back (hence the backpack left, etc.) This was carefully planned...Why did she want to do this to Kyron and his family!? She must surely have a deep hatred of Kaine and Desiree...How evil and cold she is!
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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:34 pm

Do you all think that she told Kyron about his doctor appt and instead of taking him to the doctor, she either murdered him (how? why? where?) or has him hiding out somewhere? And if so, why would she hide him out? He is not her child.

And why has it taken so long for this huge bit of news to finally come out?

I heard on HLN that the Portland PD are saying they will have a resolution soon. That sounds like good news. Could he still be alive? I do see this case, the Cummings case and the Anthony case being made into books.

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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:38 pm

by David Krough, KGW.com Staff
Posted on July 22, 2010 at 3:57 PM
Updated today at 4:19 PM

PORTLAND, Ore. -- Sources tell KGW police have searched the homes of three friends of Kyron Horman's step-mother in the past week to look for evidence in the case.
One of the unidentified friends reportedly had information on Terri Moulton-Horman's whereabouts on the day Kyron disappeared from Skyline Elementary on June 4. The friend may have violated a judge’s orders by seeing a then-sealed restraining order, filed against Terri by Kyron's father Kaine Horman, according to the sources.
Two of the homes were in Tualatin. A third search warrant at an undiclosed location was executed Thursday. Sources tell KGW investigators decided to obtain the search warrants after examining cell phone records, emails and conducting surveillance. All three friends had spent "significant" amount of time with Terri since the case began, sources said.

There have been no suspects or persons of interest named since Kyron disappeared.
However, in court documents, the boy's father Kaine Horman stated police provided him with "probable cause" to believe that Terri-Moulton Horman was involved in Kyron's disappearance, plotted to have Kaine killed, and was having a sexual affair. DETAILS: Restraining order issued

Last weekend, Kaine had Terri evicted from the family's NW Portland home and he returned to the home with Kiara.

Terri Horman has since relocated to her parents' home in Roseburg. MORE: Investigation shifts to Roseburg

Meanwhile Thursday, Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton postponed a request for $242,000 for the case until October. District Attorney Michael Schrunk was granted a request for $196,000 for a deputy D.A. and a limited-time investigator to continue the investigation.

http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Source-Tualatin-homes-of-Terri-Hormans-friends-searched-kyron-missing-portland-99062069.html

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Post by lisette on Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:00 pm

Sounds like things are starting to move...Wouldn't it be great if they found Kyron with one of these friends! Wishful thinking, I know...
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Post by Guest on Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:31 pm

[b]Wrapitup wrote:Do you all think that she told Kyron about his doctor appt and instead of taking him to the doctor, she either murdered him (how? why? where?) or has him hiding out somewhere? And if so, why would she hide him out? Exactly my thought

Yes I do think that Kyron would leave willing with his step Mom if he was told he had a Dr appt.

And why has it taken so long for this huge bit of news to finally come out? Some stuff leaks out slowly. I am surprised we know about it all.

I heard on HLN that the Portland PD are saying they will have a resolution soon. That sounds like good news. Could he still be alive? I do see this case, the Cummings case and the Anthony case being made into books.
I hope he is alive. It don't look good with some of the news that I have been reading on this thread.
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Post by Wrapitup on Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:22 pm

I highly doubt he is alive. Sorry to be so negative and morose but I am a realist. Six weeks, no arrests, a bunch of b.s. between the adults. Gee, what case does this remind me of????? thinking

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Post by Nama on Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:04 am

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DeDe Spicher, identified as a close friend of Terri Horman, was doing gardening work not far from the family's home in Northwest Portland on the day Kyron Horman disappeared, KGW has learned from a reliable source. Spicher reportedly left where she was working at 11:15 a.m. on June 4 and returned around 1 p.m.
The person who owns the house, who is cooperating with investigators, told them she called Spicher on her cell phone but she didn't answer, the source told KGW. A person who was working with Spicher, who is also cooperating with investigators, told them of trying to unsuccessfully find Spicher. Both people have told investigators they have no idea where Spicher was during that period.
Sources tell KGW that police searched Spicher's home last week. Spicher has known Terri and Kaine for about seven years.
Family pleads with Spicher to cooperate
Thursday evening, the parents of Kyron Horman issued a public plea to DeDe Spicher, naming her in a written statement that says police have informed them Spicher has been in "close communication" with Terri Moulton-Horman since Kyron went missing, and that Spicher has been "providing Terri with support and advice that is not in the best interests of our son."
The statement from the family went on to say that police tell the family Spicher "is refusing to cooperate with law enforcement, she is also going as far as to suggest to others that may have information regarding Kyron's disappearance, not to cooperate as well."
The family statement implored Spicher to tell what she knows about Kyron's disappearance, and threatens the possibility of civil action if she does not.
Earlier Thursday, KGW learned from sources that police have searched Spicher's home and the homes of two other friends of Terri Moulton Horman's in the past week.

http://www.kgw.com/home/DeDe-Spicher-99077874.html


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Post by Nama on Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:07 am

The family of Kyron Horman released this statement Thursday evening, July 22, 2010
Good Evening,
We have been briefed by law enforcement on the most recent developments in Kyron's case.
We have been informed that they have identified a person that has been in close communication with Terri Moulton Horman since Kyron went missing and her name is DeDe Spicher. She has not only been in close communication with Terri but has been providing Terri with support and advice that is not in the best interests of our son.
Additional information provided shows that she is refusing to cooperate with law enforcement, she is also going as far as to suggest to others that may have information regarding Kyron's disappearance, not to cooperate as well.
We implore DeDe Spicher to come forward and cooperate with the investigators in any way that they need in order to assist us in finding our son. We will state further that if we find out through the investigation that she caused a delay in us finding our son due to her lack of cooperation, we will pursue civil remedies in this matter.
We as a family cannot understand how anyone can look at Kyron's smiling face, having information and choose not to help bring him home. Please remember what this is about, it's about bringing a wonderful little boy back to his family.
Desiree, Kaine and Tony

http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Kyrons-family-calls-on-friend-of-Terris-to-tell-what-she-knows-99076714.html

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Post by Nama on Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:09 am

KATU News learned late Thursday afternoon that police searched the homes of three friends of Terri Horman last week, according to sources.

Two of the homes are in Tualatin and a third is at an undisclosed location.

A Tualatin police spokeswoman said she doesn’t believe their agency was involved in anyway. So whatever searches took place happened with those working directly on the Kyron Horman case.

It is not known at this time what investigators used as a basis to obtain the warrants for the searches. A source says the warrant documents are sealed.

In other developments Thursday, Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton announced before county commissioners that he’s giving back nearly a million dollars in taxpayer money.

County commissioners signed off on more funding for the case overall, however, by approving District Attorney Michael Schrunk’s request for an extra $196,000 for his office’s investigation into Kyron’s disappearance.

Staton said he’s been able to shave costs in his department that he doesn’t need any extra money.

The move seemed to be surprise just about everyone, including county commissioners who were overtly pleased to hear the news.

By slicing overtime and other expenses six percent, Staton said he was able to pay for Kyron’s search out of his own budget and will be able to return a total of $900,000 back to the county.

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:41 am

Why would anyone hide information when a little boy is missing? What is wrong with people?
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Post by lisette on Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:48 am

The only thing I could think of is that Terri told them some lie about Kaine sexually abusing Kyron and she wanted to get him out of that...But why, after all this time, would someone not tell that!? (But, in actuality, she killed him.) These friends must be as crazy as she is!
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Post by Wrapitup on Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:53 pm

Could this DeDe have assisted in Kyron's disappearance? Why else wouldn't she speak. Also, this caught my attention:
Spicher reportedly left where she was working at 11:15 a.m. on June 4 and returned around 1 p.m.
Could that be the time Kyron was murdered, if in fact, he is dead?

I am wondering WHY OH WHY the police cannot arrest DeDe for withholding information and interrogating her till she breaks. One would have to presume she has not taken a poly.


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Post by raine1953 on Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:51 pm

"BJ in OR"Thread #1 - Kyron Horman: Missing for 9 Months/ Desiree believes Kyron is dead/ Supporters put pressure on Terri - Page 11 Dedespichersquare

DeDe Spicher, identified as a close friend of Terri Horman, was doing gardening work not far from the family's home in Northwest Portland on the day Kyron Horman disappeared, KGW has learned from a reliable source. Spicher reportedly left where she was working at 11:15 a.m. on June 4 and returned around 1 p.m.
The person who owns the house, who is cooperating with investigators, told them she called Spicher on her cell phone but she didn't answer, the source told KGW. A person who was working with Spicher, who is also cooperating with investigators, told them of trying to unsuccessfully find Spicher. Both people have told investigators they have no idea where Spicher was during that period.

Another gardener? Am I losing my mind to notice that? I've never in my entire life heard of a story like this - it feels like turning on for today's story on "Days of our life"....
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Post by jeanne1807 on Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:04 pm

This story certainly has it's twists and turns. The LE is putting the heat on everybody. They better not go 5 miles over the speed limit. If they smoke weed they might be in the slammer like Misty and Ron the Satsuma gang.

I have all along thought Kyron dead but now I wonder could he be alive..somewhere?
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Post by charminglane on Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:08 pm

Does anyone know what the science project Kyron did was on?
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Normal Kyron Horman update: Kyron Horman case to be featured on Dateline

Post by Nama on Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:10 pm

The case of missing 7-year-old boy Kyron Horman will be featured on the crime news program ‘Dateline.’ Kate Snow will report on the latest developments in the case and will include interviews with Kyron’s parents Kaine Horman and Desiree Young. Tony Young, Desiree’s husband and Kyron’s stepfather, will also be interviewed.
The show will air Monday, July 26, 2010 at 10:00 p.m./ET.

The following are excerpts from the show.

went missing:

KATE SNOW: You’ve been informed that she was trying to hire someone to murder you.

//

KAINE HORMAN: I didn’t believe it at first. It was something that I couldn’t even wrap my head around at the time–

//

SNOW: There’d been no indication in your marriage–

KAINE HORMAN: No.

SNOW: –that things were that bad or that she was upset with you.

KAINE HORMAN: No.

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SNOW: Do you fear for your safety now, Kaine? For your daughter?

KAINE HORMAN: I fear for my daughter.

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SNOW: Do you think she is capable of hurting a child?

KAINE HORMAN: If you asked me before this situation, my answer’s no. Based on what I know now, I don’t know.

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KAINE HORMAN: I think anything is possible, based on the way things have gone over the past few weeks.

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Re: Desiree’s husband Tony says that as early as the first night of the investigation, the very day Kyron went missing, he explained to the family what to expect from detectives. Tony expresses surprise at Terri Horman’s reaction:

TONY YOUNG: I explained to each person that now our lives are not private anymore, that the investigators are going to want to know very detailed information about our lives …

TONY YOUNG: She instantly started to express some displeasure at that and not wanting — feeling like she was persecuted. And I thought that was kind of an unusual reaction that early.

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RE: Tony reveals to “Dateline” that the police asked Terri Horman to submit to a polygraph more than once:

TONY YOUNG: I thought something must not be right. Something must not be allowing them to check her off the list.

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KATE SNOW: Is it possible, though, that she was just nervous, that she didn’t pass her lie detector test with flying colors because she was emotional or upset or–

TONY YOUNG: // There’s more to it than just that. // The information that you’re giving, does it does it hit your ear and sound right? Does it make sense? //

KATE SNOW: She wasn’t making sense?

TONY YOUNG: Not from the information I heard from her.

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RE: Kyron’s mother, Desiree Young, in Kyron’s bedroom that she’s left just as it was the last day Kyron was there:

DESIREE YOUNG: His bed I still can’t bring myself to make it. It’s the same as it was when he last slept in it. And I can’t put away his laundry. His cars are still out — he was playing with his little car wash last time he was here.

David Corvo is the executive producer of “Dateline NBC.”

The following excerpts are told as in the interview airing Monday, July 26 on “Dateline NBC.”

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Post by Nama on Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:11 pm

Sheriff's deputies said they've developed 3,300 leads from thousands of tips and made "significant progress" in the investigation into 7-year-old Kyron Horman's disappearance.
On Friday, the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office answered more than two dozen questions submitted by reporters. The questions touched on several aspects of the case, from Kyron's stepmother to video evidence to the use of psychics.

In the release, sheriff's spokeswoman Lt. Mary Lindstrand said, "There were numerous questions that could not be answered based upon this being an ongoing investigation." Deputies said they "continue to make significant progress," but could not provide details.
Kyron vanished from his northwest Portland grade school June 4 after an early-morning science fair. Deputies said the effort to find Kyron was the largest search in state history. The case was re-focused into a criminal investigation in mid-June and on Friday, deputies said "criminal behavior" occurred in child's disappearance.
The sheriff's office is still gathering tips, but did not specify how many they've collected.
"Continuous information comes in on a daily basis which prevents our ability to give you an actual count at this time. All tips pass through the hands of a detective and are reviewed, prioritized and assigned for follow up. Some tips are duplicates and confirmed as such," deputies wrote.
Searches are still occurring when necessary, according to the sheriff's office.
"We are continuing to hope Kyron is alive and will proceed under that premise," they said.
Deputies have also ruled out several people, deputies said, but didn't provide details.
Kyron's stepmother, Terri Horman, was the last person to see the missing boy. Authorities haven't named anyone as a person of interest or suspect in the disappearance, but Kyron's biological parents, including Horman's estranged husband, have stated they believe Horman is involved and that she failed polygraph tests.
Horman was also accused by Kyron's parents of withholding information from investigators, and deputies said her cooperation hasn’t been consistent.
"During this investigation, Terri Horman has been cooperative and there have been other times she has not. We cannot speak to specifics regarding this issue," deputies wrote.
An amendment to a restraining order forced Horman to move from the family's home to Roseburg last weekend. Her move hasn't affected the investigation, according to the sheriff's office.
Deputies said a press conference about the investigation is scheduled for Tuesday at 2 p.m.

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Post by Wrapitup on Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:02 pm

charminglane wrote:Does anyone know what the science project Kyron did was on?
Tree frogs? (Sorry, "frogs".)

Thanks for all the updates, BJ. I hope by the time they air the Dateline show on the 26th, there are more updates or Kyron has been found.

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Post by Nama on Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:03 pm

Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton answered questions via e-mail Friday afternoon submitted to him by the media. The unedited questions and answers appear below.

How many tips have come in so far?

As of this date we can account for approximately 3300 leads which have been developed from the thousands of tips that have been received. Continuous information comes in on a daily basis which prevents our ability to give you an actual count at this time. All tips pass through the hands of a detective and are reviewed, prioritized and assigned for follow up. Some tips are duplicates and confirmed as such.

When was the last time Terri Horman met with police?

We have not spoken with her since she retained counsel.

Terri Horman is now living in Roseburg – Will that make it more difficult for police to get her if something is discovered at the last minute?

Terri’s moving to Roseburg has not affected our investigation, nor has it hindered our ability to contact her.

Has anyone been ruled out in Kyron’s disappearance? Who?

A number of people have been ruled out; we are unable to discuss the specifics of these individuals.

Video has been requested from local businesses as well as from members of the media – Has any footage been recovered and if so did it yield anything that will be helpful to the case?

We have recovered many photos and video footage. We will not be able to comment on their evidentiary value. We continue to ask individuals in possession of photos and video surrounding the Skyline Grade School event on June 4, 2010 to provide that to investigators. We continue to ask the media for their assistance and support in this investigation. The photos and videos that have been provided by the media have helped further the investigation process.

Has the truck been returned to the Horman’s?

Kaine Horman is in possession of his truck.

Weeks ago you said Terri Horman has been cooperating - is that still true? Kaine and Desiree have said otherwise.

During this investigation Terri Horman has been cooperative and there have been other times she has not. We cannot speak to specifics regarding this issue.

Are you still conducting active searches for Kyron?

Each viable tip is actively pursued. If the tip lends itself to an area to be searched, we will employ those resources.

How many investigators are still dedicated to this case and what are they doing on a daily basis?

A significant investigative team composed of DA Office, East County Major Crime’s Team and other local, state and federal agencies are involved in this case. The numbers varies daily, based on investigative needs.

Are tips still coming in?

Yes

Why has the sheriff’s department pulled back so drastically from talking to the media/public about this case?

This is an ongoing criminal investigation, our responsibility is to resolve this case and bring Kyron home. We are not going to release details of our efforts that will breach the integrity of this investigation or potential prosecution at a later date. If we have information that would benefit our investigation, or help in finding Kyron we will release it.

Are you any closer to cracking this case than you were 2 weeks ago or even 4 weeks ago?

We continue to make significant progress but we are not able to provide details.

Have you used the assistance of psychics in the investigation?

We have not solicited the help of psychics.

Do you have any information leading you to believe Kyron is alive?

We are continuing to hope Kyron is alive and will proceed under that premise.

While you have said this is a criminal investigation, do you believe a crime was committed in Kyron’s disappearance?

Criminal behavior has occurred and we will continue to investigate toward a resolution.
Kyron's disappearance the largest search in state history?

Is the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office still the lead agency investigating this case?

Yes

Are tips coming from other parts of the country?

Yes

From other countries?

Yes

How many people are working on the investigation now? At what point do you scale back the investigation?

We examine resources each week and make an assessment as to what we will need on a weekly basis. We are fortunate to have the number and caliber of investigators dedicated to this investigation.

Can we have the list of law enforcement agencies that have assisted in the Kyron Horman investigation?


Gresham Police, Fairview Police, Troutdale Police, Portland Police, Port of Portland Police, Clackamas County Sheriff’s Office, Clackamas County DA MCT, Multnomah County DA’s investigators, Washington County District Attorney’s Office, Washington County Sheriff’s Office, Gladstone Police, Oregon City Police, Milwaukie Police, Canby Police, Lake Oswego Police, West Linn Police, Vancouver Police, Hillsboro Police, Beaverton Police, FBI, DEA, ICE, Secret Service, DOD Defense Criminal Investigative Services, Oregon DOJ, Oregon State Police.

This list does not include search and rescue resources.

How many other children are considered missing/endangered in Multnomah County at this time aside from Kyron?

There are no other cases that meet this criteria

Of what value is a polygraph test to investigators, if the results are not admissible in a prosecution?

It is an investigative tool.

Why are you taking questions via email?

This is the most time efficient and cost effective way to provide information to the numerous and various types of media.

You have never done this before, why now and why this case?

This is a very large case with enormous media and public interest. This is the most efficient way to address many questions from numerous media outlets. This is a large case and has attracted a lot of media attention and public interest.

Is there an active search every day? Or just responding to tips?

Searches occur when necessary. We are responding to tips on a daily basis. If that tip warrants a physical search of an area, that is handled accordingly.

Give us an idea of man hours on this and what kind of staffing from your office and other offices.

This is a full time investigation. Resources have been allocated from our office and other agencies to effectively investigate this case. There have also been resources allocated to address the day to day operations for each agency.

Has the media attention helped or hurt the case?

The media attention has helped to keep Kyron in the public’s eyes and minds.

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Post by lisette on Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:20 pm

Sources detail Terri’s timeline day Kyron disappeared

PORTLAND, Ore. - According to multiple sources, Terri Moulton Horman claims she left Skyline School at 8:45 in the morning without Kyron the day he disappeared and that between 8:45 a.m. and 10:10 a.m. she ran errands at local grocery stores and can prove it.

As KATU news first reported, at least two stores, the Albertsons on Hillsdale Highway and the Sunset Fred Meyer, are cooperating with investigators. The Albertsons confirmed it turned over surveillance tape to investigators in the case.

Between 10:10 in the morning and 11:39, Terri claimed she drove her daughter Kiara around on rural roads in the family’s white truck because Kiara had an earache. She claimed she was trying to soothe the toddler with the motion of the vehicle.

Early on investigators made a request of the public for any video they might have of the white truck traveling on specific roads through Northwest Multnomah County and portions of Washington County.

At 11:39 a.m., Terri checked in at a 24-hour Fitness in Beaverton on Waterhouse Avenue and worked out for about an hour until 12:40 p.m.

By 1:21, Terri claimed she'd traveled home - a distance of nearly 11 miles - and was posting photos on Facebook she'd taken that morning of Kyron standing with his science project and of his friend, Kurtis, standing with his.

Sources said she also e-mailed the teacher to find out when she could come pick up the project as she had not taken it home.

Yet according to Kaine Horman, that was the very reason Terri requested to drive the truck that day to Skyline School.

He said in an e-mail to KATU News: “I typically drive the truck and Terri drives the car. She wanted to use the truck to bring Kyron's science fair project home, easier done with the truck than the car."

Two of Terri's friends who've taken polygraph tests and turned over evidence said they are cooperating fully with investigators and have nothing to hide.

Dede Spicher, another friend of Terri’s, has been accused by Kyron’s biological parents, Desiree Young and Kaine Horman, for not cooperating with police. Spicher refused to answer reporter’s questions Friday.

No one has been named a suspect or person of interest in the case, and police have not made any arrests

http://www.katu.com/news/local/99151549.html

Whoever heard of riding a toddler with an earache around to soothe her?! You take her to the doctor or home to give her Tylenol!
Also, I noticed that DeDe has reddish hair...Could she have pulled it back and signed in as Terri at the gym? It would have been the time she was missing from the gardening gig? Just a thought...
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Post by Wrapitup on Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:41 pm

Sources said she also e-mailed the teacher to find out when she could come pick up the project as she had not taken it home.
This would be on Terri's hard drive and on the teacher's as well.

I agree, lisette. I w/take it a step further. If your child has an earache, you go work out? I think NOT.

Not sure about the red haired neighbor, Dee Dee. But anything at this point is possible.

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Post by lisette on Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:36 am

According to multiple sources, investigators are questioning those who were closest to Terri Horman, especially after the restraining order was issued near the end of June.

One woman, who is moving out of a home in Tigard, said she underwent a polygraph test and had investigators come to her home with a search warrant within the last week.

She and another friend of Terri Horman said they’re cooperating fully with detectives since they have nothing to hide.

Both said they feel they’ve been dragged into the investigation by simply being supportive of Terri and doing things like visiting her at her home.

But both said they are stepping away from the situation as much as they can because it’s simply not something they want to be connected with anymore.

One woman said she underwent a five-hour polygraph examination about Kyron’s disappearance Thursday. She said investigators told her they already have probable cause to arrest Terri Horman on the alleged murder-for-hire plot and for Kyron’s disappearance. But they didn’t say why an arrest hasn’t happened yet.

She described in detail how investigators first questioned her for three hours and asked her about everything she knows about the case, Terri Horman and the day Kyron vanished.

Then investigators ran her through what would be covered in the test, and in the fifth hour, she was physically hooked up to the machine.

She said she passed her polygraph.

As for Dede Spicher, according to sources, her condominium in Tualatin was searched last week and investigators took her computer and phone.

She is a board member with her condo association at the Orchard Hills Condominium.

Spicher has often been seen chauffeuring Terri Horman to and from the family’s rural Northwest Portland home when Terri still lived there.

Spicher refused to answer questions from reporters Friday as she raced out of her house and into a waiting car driven by her father. Her father, who identified himself as a sheriff’s deputy with the Klamath County Sheriff’s Office, also declined to comment on the accusations from Kyron’s family.

Police have not named a suspect or persons of interest in the Kyron Horman investigation. They have not made any arrests in the case either.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/99146044.html
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Post by Wrapitup on Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:05 am

I cannot imagine being interrogated for 4 hours and then being poly'd in the 5th hour. That is brutal for anyone, especially a friend of Terri's. I also find it difficult to imagine LE telling her they have probable cause to arrest Terri. One, they are keeping this case close to the vest. Why blurt that out? IF they did, I think it would be so this friend would really open up if she knows anything.

Now, we find Dee Dee's dad is a deputy sheriff. Wow.

I MUST say this. There are some on a few other sites who believe with all their heart that Terri Horman is completely innocent. Some think that Desiree or Kaine may have something to do with Kyron's disappearance. I have to ask myself: Is it possible/probable/plausible that Terri Horman IS innocent? Was Kaine an abusive husband? Why did he want to divorce her months ago before Korman went missing?? Some say Desiree should not have let Kyron live with his father and step-mother and why was he anyway? Yes, she was ill but seems to be better now.

And, what about James..who went to live with his bio dad as he and Kaine did not get along? These are all great questions and we don't have the answers, but I can guarantee LE does. That being said...my only question at this point is this: Will there be an arrest soon?

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Post by concerned4all on Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:09 am

Wrap, it is good to see that you are now questioning whether Terri is guilty or not. The only info we have rec'd is from Desiree and Kaine, but I truly feel all the words are coming from Desiree's mouth. I really think she is coaching Kaine. I read somewhere that the sheriff's dept. said none of the info D & K are giving out is coming from them. We have heard nothing from LE, just the bio's.

As for Terri's friend, with her dad being on the sheriff's dept in another county, I'm sure the only advice she is giving to Terri is, lawyer up, stay away from the media, and don't respond to anything D & K are saying. Everyone knows, if LE suspects you of a crime, your best bet is to get an atty.

We have heard nothing from LE directly that proves they have any evidence against Terri, but I truly feel, if they did have something on her, she would be in custody by now. We just have to wait and see. Terri may be involved, but so could Kaine, Desiree and Tony.

Since Kaine was planning to divorce Terri, before Kyron disappeared, he may have been planning to send Kyron back to live with his mom. Maybe, Tony didn't want a 7 year old on a full time basis. We just don't know all the details, and frankly, D & K are starting to remind me of GA & CA, appearing on all the TV networks.
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Post by annacanna on Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:04 pm

I live about half an hour from his school. My brother and I drove by a few days after he disappeared. We both came to the same conclusion, this school is way too out in the middle of nowhere for this to have been a stranger abduction. From the road you couldn't even tell it was a school unless you were searching really hard. I had a gut feeling from day one that the step mom did something, but I will not truly believe until it is proven, but I must say, from the location of the school, it definitely was some one he knew. This gives me hope that it may be some one who loves him, and will not hurt him.
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Post by annacanna on Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:09 pm

This is a video I made 6 days after he disappeared. I have a lot of viewers on my youtube account so I was hoping I could use it to spread word about him. I sent it to his step mom and dad via facebook. His dad replied 10 days later, "Great thanks, anything you can do to help is appreciated." Terri Horman never replied.