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Post by Nama Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:08 pm

Connie Ostrander was born in Jan of '62; Billie Dunn was born in May of '77 so Connie was only 14 when she got pregnant with Billie. Delbert Dean Ostrander (father) is the same age, 49, as Connie. Both of Billie's parents were 15 when she was born. Could be part of why this family has so many problems and such dysfunction.


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Post by Nama Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:26 pm

I'm amazed (well, not really) at the actions of Hailey's family. I would think that, under the circumstances, that just one of them would be on their best behavior and stay out of trouble. Couldn't Connie Ostrander do without selling or buying drugs until her granddaughter is found? Do any of them have any common sense? Everyday there's something new to blog about with this family. They all need to shape up and grow up!
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Post by Slys Hunny Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:31 pm

Im gonna quit asking how crazy this can get.Everytime I ask something stranger than the day before happens.

I agree with thier young ages causing some disfunction. I was 15 when I had my oldest but I grew up somewhere along the way. Doesnt seem like any of these people have in MOO.
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Post by jeanne1807 Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:42 pm

It's kind of interesting that they would pick up Connie today. When tensions are running high. I, for one, think they have known forever she did drugs.

She has been staying with Billie. I am wondering what they hope to find out from a locked up Connie?

Just my own observation and speculation.

Timing is everything..as they say.
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Post by Nama Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:55 pm

Connie Ostrander, 49, mother of Billie Jean Dunn and grandmother of missing teenager Hailey Dunn, was arrested Friday on a drug charge.

Officials at the Scurry County sheriff's office said Ostrander was arrested by deputies around 2:15 p.m. on a charge of possession of a controlled substance, Penalty Group 1, and booked into the Scurry County Jail. Bond had not been set as of late Friday, but Ostrander was expected to appear before a magistrate before Sunday.

The exact nature and amount of the controlled substance Ostrander reportedly had in her possession was not released. Possession of less than 1 gram of a Penalty Group 1 drug is considered a state jail felony. According to the Texas Health and Safety Code, Penalty Group 1 includes a number of drugs, including many opiates and opium derivatives.

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Post by truthbtold Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:58 pm

jeanne1807 wrote:It's kind of interesting that they would pick up Connie today. When tensions are running high. I, for one, think they have known forever she did drugs.

She has been staying with Billie. I am wondering what they hope to find out from a locked up Connie?

Just my own observation and speculation.

Timing is everything..as they say.

Hailey's gone, David's gone, Clint's gone, Hailey's Angels are gone, Marc Klaas is gone, and the whole world has seen Billie and Shawn's filthy laundry. Still, LE contends Shawn and Billie are withholding information - not cracking... Wonder if they think it's worth a try to see if Connie will spill if she knows something. She did see Billie and Shawn on the night Hailey supposedly disappeared. If she knows anything, I hope she doesn't let Hailey down and tells the truth...
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Post by Wrapitup Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:04 pm

TBT, thank you for the links and the info upthread. Had not known that the day that BD called LE saying that she was afraid of SA, SA called and said BD had taken Klonopin and pain meds. Evidently, if SA knew he had a warrant for his arrest and called in concern for Billie, he didn't care if he was arrested for the warrant. Did BD really take pills to try to off herself? Did the paramedics take her to the hospital? I am wondering out loud (or in writing) Mind boggling.

What is also mind boggling is both of BD's parents being only 15 (and married) when Billie was born. Are they still married? I bet not.

Connie looks like she has been rode hard. It reminds me of Mother Croslin and Misty. Same thing, different folks.

Also, I did not know that Connie was staying with Billie. But, Connie was arrested in Scurry County, not at Billie's.

Jeanne, I also find it a bit strange that Connie would be arrested the day after the deviant news is all over the web. I do wonder why the police would choose Connie to arrest IF they knew of her carrying illegal narcotics before today. Was she driving and pulled over? What circumstances revolved around her arrest?

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Post by truthbtold Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:10 pm

Wrapitup wrote:TBT, thank you for the links and the info upthread. Had not known that the day that BD called LE saying that she was afraid of SA, SA called and said BD had taken Klonopin and pain meds. Evidently, if SA knew he had a warrant for his arrest and called in concern for Billie, he didn't care if he was arrested for the warrant. Did BD really take pills to try to off herself? Did the paramedics take her to the hospital? I am wondering out loud (or in writing) Mind boggling.
TBT: Nah, no hospitlization. Billie claims it was a big misunderstanding, she and Shawn were just saying "ugly things" to get at each other. That was when their relationship was "rocky"; before the "awesome" last 6 months.

Regarding Shawn's warrant, didn't you think it was interesting how he didn't know his own address when the dispatcher asked? He knew he wasn't getting picked up, imo. Still a little risky to call LE, but I don't think he could resist the head games. JMO


What is also mind boggling is both of BD's parents being only 15 (and married) when Billie was born. Are they still married? I bet not.

Connie looks like she has been rode hard. It reminds me of Mother Croslin and Misty. Same thing, different folks.

Also, I did not know that Connie was staying with Billie. But, Connie was arrested in Scurry County, not at Billie's. I would love to know what the controlled substance was. It wouldn't be pot..that is not a controlled substance. It has to be a felony.
TBT: czgtz is the one who told us that Connie was supportive and staying with Billie; I don't think that was ever reported by Billie herself or by a news outlet. I think she might have been staying there, before Billie's brother and then Shawn came back into the picture. She may have been at home in Scurry County at the time of this arrest. JMO.

Jeanne, I also find it a bit strange that Connie would be arrested the day after the deviant news is all over the web. I do wonder why the police would choose Connie to arrest IF they knew of her carrying illegal narcotics before today. Was she driving and pulled over? What circumstances revolved around her arrest?

So many questions.
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Post by bringthemhome Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:21 pm

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lindamarie wrote:I am not watching NG. I appreciate the post regarding the show. Marc Klass changing his mind about Billie will sway lots of people his way. I bet he feels taken advantage of.

I agree lindamarie. He and Jean C both basically admitted they were duped by Billie at first...

I missed it as I had a b-day party to attend, but I am glad he is finally seeing what we have seen since day one. I realize she didn't disclose all as we expected and knew, but he did know that she had not taken another LDT to clear herself nor stuck to a consistent story (both big no-no's in his book).........I do realize that he is a bit more naive than your average victim's advocate, but the refusal of another LDT and the non-stop changing stories should have been a clue IMO, and then to introduce her with traffick911 could have damaged another advocate's reputation. I am not speakin ill of him, but it seems he sometimes lacks the discernment when getting behind someone (Cindy Anthony and Ron Cummings pop in my mind ASAP) and again IMO pillBillie is a cross between the two.

Maybe it is better to be somewhat naive .....sometimes I think it would be better to be ignorant of the bowels of society and then I do a complete 180 and think I couldn't protect my family as well if I was ...... head bang head bang
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Post by NosyNeighbor Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:23 pm

While Dunn admits Adkins was the one who brought over the memory stick that was confiscated, she says she's still in the dark about what is happening.

Surprize Surprize!.. she's gonna have him go down alone for this..

and she also says this:
"I've talked to him [Adkins] about it a little bit and I'll talk to Shawn a little more [later]."

You have talked to him a "little" about this? WTF? A little?..You're facing 20years in Texas Penitentiary for child porn(320 of those vids/pix in her very own dresser drawer)and you talked to him a little about it? and you'll talk a little more about it to him later?
(same old ignorant and dumb "I don't know".."I didn't get a chance to ask".."I didn't even think to ask him")..par for the course with Billie continuing to play dumb and she just don't know nuttin'..(GMAB)

..and much much more from and about BJD here at this link:http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=346806

*Added: I know several had made mention of cz or asked what cz would say about ____...or having a specific question for cz and then there was a post that said Cz won't be here to answer questions after the way that she was treated here.. I just wanted to add that cz played a very big role/part in the "not so nice" posting that went on that night and was every single bit just as guilty as the others of us that engaged in the immature posting..by all means its her right not to post here anymore but she dished out just as much as she took and we're all still here able to move on and post like respectable adults.. just saying..
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Post by jeanne1807 Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:39 pm

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While Dunn admits Adkins was the one who brought over the memory stick that was confiscated, she says she's still in the dark about what is happening.

Surprize Surprize!.. she's gonna have him go down alone for this..

and she also says this:
"I've talked to him [Adkins] about it a little bit and I'll talk to Shawn a little more [later]."

You have talked to him a "little" about this? WTF? A little?..You're facing 20years in Texas Penitentiary for child porn(320 of those vids/pix in her very own dresser drawer)and you talked to him a little about it? and you'll talk a little more about it to him later?
(same old ignorant and dumb "I don't know".."I didn't get a chance to ask".."I didn't even think to ask him")..par for the course with Billie continuing to play dumb and she just don't know nuttin'..(GMAB)

..and much much more from and about BJD here at this link:http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=346806

*Added: I know several had made mention of cz or asked what cz would say about ____...or having a specific question for cz and then there was a post that said Cz won't be here to answer questions after the way that she was treated here.. I just wanted to add that cz played a very big role/part in the "not so nice" posting that went on that night and was every single bit just as guilty as the others of us that engaged in the immature posting..by all means its her right not to post here anymore but she dished out just as much as she took and we're all still here able to move on and post like respectable adults.. just saying..


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Post by bringthemhome Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:46 pm

NosyNeighbor wrote:
While Dunn admits Adkins was the one who brought over the memory stick that was confiscated, she says she's still in the dark about what is happening.

Surprize Surprize!.. she's gonna have him go down alone for this..

and she also says this:
"I've talked to him [Adkins] about it a little bit and I'll talk to Shawn a little more [later]."

You have talked to him a "little" about this? WTF? A little?..You're facing 20years in Texas Penitentiary for child porn(320 of those vids/pix in her very own dresser drawer)and you talked to him a little about it? and you'll talk a little more about it to him later?
(same old ignorant and dumb "I don't know".."I didn't get a chance to ask".."I didn't even think to ask him")..par for the course with Billie continuing to play dumb and she just don't know nuttin'..(GMAB)

..and much much more from and about BJD here at this link:http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=346806

*Added: I know several had made mention of cz or asked what cz would say about ____...or having a specific question for cz and then there was a post that said Cz won't be here to answer questions after the way that she was treated here.. I just wanted to add that cz played a very big role/part in the "not so nice" posting that went on that night and was every single bit just as guilty as the others of us that engaged in the immature posting..by all means its her right not to post here anymore but she dished out just as much as she took and we're all still here able to move on and post like respectable adults.. just saying..
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FTLOG woman get a new line for our lies.....so you are all over ppl "slandering " you and I have to add that truth is an absolute defense to the accusation of slander/libel but how seriously do you expect anyone to believe that you are watching ppl speaking ill of you yet NEVER bothered to ask him about this, or any other pertinent question regarding your child's disappearance?? Ummm~No !

ITA about CZ, when ppl could see the dodging and inconsistences in her stories and dared to call a spade a spade she ran off like a dog with it's tail between it's legs. When you decide to go on various boards to defend your friend vs searching for the absolute truth (good, bad or indifferent), well you open yourself to some scrutiny just as we would scrutinize anyone else who made absurd stmts and inconsistent stmts especially in light of the horrific crime we are talking about. WTF
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Post by truthbtold Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:47 pm

Thanks for the link Nosy! I'm so over Billie Jean Dunn. She doesn't know anything about any porn. She's talked to Shawn about it "a little"... Remember when Nancy Grace asked Billie what Shawn said about going back to CCity on 12/27 when he was supposed to be at work? Billie said she hadn't really asked him. She talked to him about it "a little". If Billie had been in the same room, I swear Nancy would have tried to slap her silly, imo...

Biilie Jean is absolutely exasperating, imo. WTF I need Fiesta Ware!!!!

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Post by raine1953 Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:58 pm

TBT - You're good.
I just got caught up with this thread and I'll just bet that the cops knew Billie's Mom was involved with (selling I'm sure) drugs (I'd bet Oxy's were among whatever she sold) and they were holding their trump card on her to use at an opportune time. JMOO.
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Post by bringthemhome Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:00 am

truthbtold wrote:Thanks for the link Nosy! I'm so over Billie Jean Dunn. She doesn't know anything about any porn. She's talked to Shawn about it "a little"... Remember when Nancy Grace asked Billie what Shawn said about going back to CCity on 12/27 when he was supposed to be at work? Billie said she hadn't really asked him. She talked to him about it "a little". If Billie had been in the same room, I swear Nancy would have tried to slap her silly, imo...

Biilie Jean is absolutely exasperating, imo. WTF I need Fiesta Ware!!!!

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I'll send you some from my yard sale excursion......I think she honestly believes she is smarter than LE, does she really think anyone besides maybe 6 ppl are buying her BS?? I had her pegged the first interview. ITA about the comment on NG, tonight's daily dose of BS and th BS that she didn't even think to call Shawn about Hailey disappearing, even my dog is shaking her head in disgust out the outright lies. MOO, she has to be a sociopath as it appears she believes her own lies and is "disgusted" that anyone would doubt this greiving mother crazy 1
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Post by truthbtold Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:03 am

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lindamarie wrote:I am not watching NG. I appreciate the post regarding the show. Marc Klass changing his mind about Billie will sway lots of people his way. I bet he feels taken advantage of.

I agree lindamarie. He and Jean C both basically admitted they were duped by Billie at first...

I missed it as I had a b-day party to attend, but I am glad he is finally seeing what we have seen since day one. I realize she didn't disclose all as we expected and knew, but he did know that she had not taken another LDT to clear herself nor stuck to a consistent story (both big no-no's in his book).........I do realize that he is a bit more naive than your average victim's advocate, but the refusal of another LDT and the non-stop changing stories should have been a clue IMO, and then to introduce her with traffick911 could have damaged another advocate's reputation. I am not speakin ill of him, but it seems he sometimes lacks the discernment when getting behind someone (Cindy Anthony and Ron Cummings pop in my mind ASAP) and again IMO pillBillie is a cross between the two.

Maybe it is better to be somewhat naive .....sometimes I think it would be better to be ignorant of the bowels of society and then I do a complete 180 and think I couldn't protect my family as well if I was ...... head bang head bang

bth: I too admire Marc Klaas and respect that he admitted he was mistaken in his trust in Billie Jean. He admitted it to a national audience; good on him. Now, I hope he has also had a chance to speak with some of those LE officers that he called "thoroughly incompetent" on national tv, based only on the stories of Billie Jean. I hope Marc has offered to buy Sparky a beer. drunk I respect them both..
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Post by Wrapitup Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:05 am

NN said:
*Added: I know several had made mention of cz or asked what cz would say about ____...or having a specific question for cz and then there was a post that said Cz won't be here to answer questions after the way that she was treated here.. I just wanted to add that cz played a very big role/part in the "not so nice" posting that went on that night and was every single bit just as guilty as the others of us that engaged in the immature posting..by all means its her right not to post here anymore but she dished out just as much as she took and we're all still here able to move on and post like respectable adults.. just saying..
You are correct. She became combative and seemed to be fighting to protect not only BD but her integrity. It became heated between her and the majority of the members. She could and probably should have bowed out gracefully. MOO.
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Post by truthbtold Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:06 am

Okay, Billie is getting to me, so I'm gonna call it a night.

You know you're getting loopy when you start wondering if Billie really gave Hailey's dog away, or if the pooch was actually taken by Animal Protective Services... Ewww and good night all!
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omg I am up in Maine for the weekend. Just got back to my hotel room and rushed to see what had transpired since this morning. Wowsa. So they arrested Billie's mom.. another person taken away from Billie. And, along with her mom going into jail goes Billie's drug connection. So now she is alone, no support and no drugs to ease her nerves.

Billie may break and spill the beans. At the worst, she will throw Shawn under the bus..And then I'm sure Shawn will take her down with him.

I hope there will be NG transcripts to read because I missed the show. And, I want to see how all the experts have finally abandoned Billie. I was beginning to wonder if they would ever see thru her.

Although I'm pleased that she is being exposed, I"m worried we will never find Hailey.
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Post by Wrapitup Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:15 am

by truthbtold Today at 0:06
Okay, Billie is getting to me, so I'm gonna call it a night.

You know you're getting loopy when you start wondering if Billie really gave Hailey's dog away, or if the pooch was actually taken by Animal Protective Services... Ewww and good night all!
Speaking of which, TBT..I got quite the chuckle from BTH with this:

even my dog is shaking her head in disgust out the outright lies.
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Post by Boston_Lady Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:16 am

Wrapitup wrote:NN said:
*Added: I know several had made mention of cz or asked what cz would say about ____...or having a specific question for cz and then there was a post that said Cz won't be here to answer questions after the way that she was treated here.. I just wanted to add that cz played a very big role/part in the "not so nice" posting that went on that night and was every single bit just as guilty as the others of us that engaged in the immature posting..by all means its her right not to post here anymore but she dished out just as much as she took and we're all still here able to move on and post like respectable adults.. just saying..
You are correct. She became combative and seemed to be fighting to protect not only BD but her integrity. It became heated between her and the majority of the members. She could and probably should have bowed out gracefully. MOO.

I agree
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Boston_Lady wrote: omg I am up in Maine for the weekend. Just got back to my hotel room and rushed to see what had transpired since this morning. Wowsa. So they arrested Billie's mom.. another person taken away from Billie. And, along with her mom going into jail goes Billie's drug connection. So now she is alone, no support and no drugs to ease her nerves.

Billie may break and spill the beans. At the worst, she will throw Shawn under the bus..And then I'm sure Shawn will take her down with him.


I hope there will be NG transcripts to read because I missed the show. And, I want to see how all the experts have finally abandoned Billie. I was beginning to wonder if they would ever see thru her.

Although I'm pleased that she is being exposed, I"m worried we will never find Hailey.
Shades of Ron and Misty.

I STILL want to know: How did the Scurry County PD come to arrest Connie? They didn't just march up to her front door and say, "We know you have in your possession, a controlled substance." UNLESS she was dealing and they had been watching her. Either that, or she was pulled over for some broken tail light. Sarcasm

Added: OMG..I had left out the "light" reference the "broken tail light." The sentence sans the "light" could conjure up some strange thoughts if one's mind goes there. Sorry about that!!! I am actually embarrassed!
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Post by jeanne1807 Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:21 am

In the affadavit they think Hailey was kidnapped. So I have to go back to that video of her in school. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Look at about 20 seconds into the video. This girl was growing for leading such an active life. Into cheering, bb and karate and walking all over the place.

So then my thoughts go to..was she pregnant and Billie and Shawn decided to "send her away for a few months". Remember if Shawn had anything to do with it..he would be facing lots of jail time.

So could they have made up this lie..she was a runaway and it all got out of hand?

Clint knowing the truth and stopping his searching and supporting BD and SA and Billie switching sofas, painting walls and buying a big screen tv because she is not worried about Hailey being dead. She might know exactly where she is. Might even be in communication.

In the beginning when I thought about all of this I thought everybody would think I was crazy..I did too. But the more I read the more I think..maybe.
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"It's definitely a shock," said Dunn, adding, "I've talked to him [Adkins] about it a little bit and I'll talk to Shawn a little more [later]."

It's a shock? Well maybe she means it's a shock that it's all coming out?

"Of course, he didn't put anything like that on there," insists Dunn about the pornography accusations.

Of course! Because she did.

Dunn went on to say the recent reports that pornographic pictures were found by investigators doesn't sound like her boyfriend.

"It's definitely out of character for him. I've known him for a while, and I've never known him to be into anything like that, or we wouldn't have a relationship."

I'm sorry.. if she met him on MySpace as she claimed, she can't think that people haven't reviewed his MySpace and can see for themselves that this is completely IN character for Shawn, and herself.
And more importantly, she hasn't learned to shut up. Keep talking Billie Jean.


While Dunn admits Adkins was the one who brought over the memory stick that was confiscated, she says she's still in the dark about what is happening.

"I haven't gotten to talk to investigators, to find out what it is."

Lol, she was just asked about the child porn and bestiality found on the memory stick and she is in the dark? And seriously, she makes it sound like the investigators are going to confer with her to get her input on what "she" thinks would be the best way to handle this!!!!!! Good lord!

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Post by Wrapitup Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:32 am

Jeanne: I just don't think that is plausible. Some how, some way..as smart as everyone says Hailey is, she would hear of all the news and reach out to someone other than her family.

Due to the child porn in particular, and the fact that Traffic911 stated child porn is part and parcel of sex trafficking, I do now more than ever believe she was sold to sex traffickers for drugs. It would have thrown anyone off this theory if BD had attended and spoken this weekend. MOO.


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Post by Boston_Lady Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:34 am

jeanne1807 wrote:In the affadavit they think Hailey was kidnapped. So I have to go back to that video of her in school. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Look at about 20 seconds into the video. This girl was growing for leading such an active life. Into cheering, bb and karate and walking all over the place.

So then my thoughts go to..was she pregnant and Billie and Shawn decided to "send her away for a few months". Remember if Shawn had anything to do with it..he would be facing lots of jail time.

So could they have made up this lie..she was a runaway and it all got out of hand?

Clint knowing the truth and stopping his searching and supporting BD and SA and Billie switching sofas, painting walls and buying a big screen tv because she is not worried about Hailey being dead. She might know exactly where she is. Might even be in communication.

In the beginning when I thought about all of this I thought everybody would think I was crazy..I did too. But the more I read the more I think..maybe.


Hi Jeanne, I don't think Hailey is still alive. I'm not sure if it has to do with a pregnancy. Especially after finding out tonite that Billie Jean's mother and father were both 15 when they had her. I think whatever happened it was done in a rage and then they panicked. I think this is why Billie Jean needed those drugs the night she purchased them in Scurry County.

I'm praying that they will finally tell us what happened to Hailey.
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Post by Wrapitup Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:37 am

I just had a thought. Maybe I am wrong about SA trading BD to sex traffickers for drugs. Why would they need to make two withdrawls from the ATM for a total of $140.00 on the same day BD reported her daughter missing if this were true?

Nothing like playing devil's advocate with your own theory. :good/evil:


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I hope there will be NG transcripts to read because I missed the show.
Nancy Grace transcript from Friday, Feb 25, 2011

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BILLIE DUNN, HAILEY`S MOTHER: As far as I`m aware, there`s still no evidence of foul play.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re still searching and we`re still looking.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My main thought on it is that it`s a witch hunt.

DUNN: I`m still looking for a living, breathing Hailey.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: These are the last words that anybody heard from 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.

SHAWN ADKINS, BILLIE DUNN`S BOYFRIEND: "Shawn, I`m going to go by my dad`s, and then I`m going to stay (INAUDIBLE) with my friend, Mary Beth. Please tell my mom."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Reported to police by the man who is now a suspect in her disappearance.

DUNN: His name is Shawn Adkins.

Shawn Adkins.

ADKINS: I love her with all my heart.

DUNN: Shawn had been threatening me.

ADKINS: And I believe she loves me with all her heart.

DUNN: And he`s telling me that he`s going to kill me.

ADKINS: We get along just fine.

DUNN: He said it`s going to happen.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Shawn Adkins, did you at all have anything to do with Hailey`s disappearance?

ADKINS: No, ma`am, I don`t.

DUNN: What if he did do something to Hailey?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CASAREZ: I`m Jean Casarez of "In Session," in for Nancy Grace. We spoke with police minutes before airing this show tonight, and they are alleging to us that thousands of deviant acts have been found on a family computer in the Hailey Dunn case. We grew to know and love Hailey Dunn after Christmas this last year when she went missing. They`re also telling us that those deviant acts include child pornography and bestiality.

I want to go out to Michael Board, reporter of WOAI Newstalk radio in San Antonio. Michael, you yourself have just gotten off the phone with police. What are they telling you?

MICHAEL BOARD, WOAI NEWSTALK RADIO (via telephone): Yes, this is the Mitchell County Sheriff`s Department here in Texas. And these images that we`re talking about, these were found on a computer in Shawn Adkins`s mother`s home, and also on a memory stick, one of these little portable memory sticks, in the home where Hailey actually lived. What they found on these, like you said, a little bit over 100,000 deviant pictures, child pornography, bestiality.

You know, we knew Shawn Adkins was the only suspect in this case, in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn, the kidnapping, as police call it, of Hailey Dunn. We now get a better idea. Who the heck needs 108,000 pictures of such trash? It`s amazing how many pictures they found on here. But it does give us a lot better idea of why this man is being called a suspect in this case.

CASAREZ: And more or less, Michael Board, possession of child porn, that`s a crime. Let`s go...

BOARD: Two to twenty years in Texas.

CASAREZ: OK. Alexis Weed, NANCY GRACE producer, OK, let`s go through this step by step. First of all, we know at the end of January, investigators seized a computer out of Shawn Adkins`s home. Now, he`s the live-in boyfriend, was the live-in boyfriend of Billie Dunn, the mother of Hailey Dunn. So what are we learning was found on that computer?

ALEXIS WEED, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Well, we know it was a Dell computer seized, as you said, from the mother of Shawn Adkins`s home. On this computer, like Michael Board said, Jean, 108,498 pictures depicting deviant acts, according to the sheriff of Mitchell County. Also, this memory stick and a CD, 320 images, videos, pornographic in nature.

CASAREZ: All right. And we want to show everybody a memory stick. This was found in the dresser drawer of Billie Dunn. Everybody, this is a memory stick. It`s a flash drive. They call it that, too. It`s what you use in a computer to actually get images to the computer to download or to put them on your memory disk. And then, of course, a CD. We all know what that looks like. But this was also found in the home where Hailey Dunn lived. And authorities are saying they are now taking this to prosecutors to see if charges should be filed.

I want to go back to Michael Board, reporter, WOAI Newstalk radio. What else can you tell us?

BOARD: All this information is being passed on to the district attorney in this case. Of course, the police can only gather the evidence. All that evidence taken to a district attorney. It will go before a grand jury.

If the grand jury gives their thumbs up to this case, it`s likely Shawn Adkins, maybe even Billie Dunn, because the memory stick was found in her home -- she might even face charges in this case. She might not have downloaded it. They might not know who had gotten -- who was on the computer when the kiddie porn was downloaded. But because it was found in her home, it might be a fact that she might face charges in this. And in Texas, possession of child pornography, if you`re found guilty either by a jury or by a judge, it could mean a sentence of 2 to 20 years.

CASAREZ: And Billie Dunn tonight is denying to us that she knew what was on that or had any part in any computer image that was found on the computer or the memory stick.

We are taking your calls live. To Jen in Colorado. Hi, Jen.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Jean. Thank you for taking my call.

CASAREZ: You`re welcome.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was wondering if they know if there are any photos of Hailey on that memory stick or CD, or if they could see any surroundings on the CDs or memory sticks?

CASAREZ: Well, you know, Jen, with 108,000-some-odd images, they`ve got a lot to go through.

I want to go to Pat Brown, criminal profiler. They are not releasing what is shown on all of those images, but Pat Brown, you can better believe they`re looking at them.

PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER: Oh, yes. We`re talking -- here`s the problem. We`re talking about a desire to have extreme excitement, like with extreme sports, instead of just going for a walk, you jump off a mountain. This is extreme perversion. Instead of just playing around with a little weird sex, you got to go to worse and worse and worse levels of perversion to get any kind of titillation out of it. And it might go as far as messing with Hailey.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DUNN: His name is Shawn Adkins.

I worry, what if he did do something to Hailey.

His name is Shawn Adkins.

I`m scared to death that somebody hurt her!

His name is Shawn Adkins.

ADKINS: We all get along just fine. I would never do anything to that little girl.

DUNN: I just don`t trust him and I...

I just don`t trust him and I...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Shawn Adkins, did you at all have anything to do with Hailey`s disappearance, or do you know anything more?

ADKINS: No, ma`am, I don`t.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CASAREZ: I`m Jean Casarez of "In Session," in for Nancy Grace. Police are alleging to us tonight that thousands of images have been found on a computer in Shawn Adkins`s mother`s home in addition to that of child pornography and bestiality and a memory stick and a CD seized from the home of Hailey Dunn. Now, what does all this mean? This means that we want to know where Hailey Dunn is. And this evidence may help us find out where Hailey Dunn is, missing since December 27th, the high school cheerleader, middle school cheerleader, of Colorado City, west Texas.

I want to go out to Marc Klaas. Marc, you spent a lot of time with Billie Dunn. We know that this flash drive, CD, was found in her home, the flash drive in her dresser drawer. Law enforcement telling us they may go to the grand jury now with this. What are your thoughts? She was not named a suspect, just Shawn Adkins.

KLAAS: Well, first of all, we have to be very clear that we`re dealing now with multiple crime scenes. Not only is Hailey Dunn missing, but that computer that was taken from the mother`s house is a crime scene. That flash drive that has child pornography on it is a crime scene, as is the CD. And all of these people are involved in this.

Klaas Kids is very clear. We tell every family of a missing child, number one, to tell the truth, number two, cooperate with law enforcement, and number three, come clean about absolutely everything. That was not followed in this case, and the repercussions are grand. They`re huge because everything that`s going on now really is detracting from the one goal that everybody should be focusing on, which is finding Hailey Dunn. Billie should be ashamed of herself for holding back information that she`s had all of this time.

CASAREZ: Can we assume that Billie Dunn knew all of this?

KLAAS: I don`t think we can assume anything. I don`t think that Billie Dunn is responsible for her daughter`s disappearance. I don`t think she is. But beyond that, I think everything is open to question.

CASAREZ: To Joey Jackson, defense attorney joining us out of New York. Here`s my one question. If Billie Dunn knew about these child pornography images, why wasn`t she named a suspect back in January along with her live-in boyfriend?

JACKSON: Well, the problem, Jean, is belief that she might have known it. You know, there are a lot of instances where people live together, parents, husbands, wives, and they don`t know what each other is doing. So we can`t assume that yet.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SHAWN ADKINS, MISSING TEEN CHEERLEADER MOM`S EX-BOYFRIEND: It`s a witch hunt.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Police warrants reportedly reveal investigators found more than 100,000 picture and video images showing pornography, found on a computer taken from suspect Shawn Adkins` mother`s home.

ADKINS: Chaotic. You know, people have drove by this residence and screamed obscenities to me. And it`s been really hard.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Some of those images include child pornography.

BILLIE DUNN, MOM OF MISSING TEEN CHEERLEADER, HAILEY B. DUNN: He`s telling me that he`s going to kill me. He says it`s going to happen. I`m scared to death that somebody hurt her. His name is Shawn Adkins.

ADKINS: We all get along just fine. I would never do nothing to that little girl.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: A memory card also reportedly found in the bedroom dresser of Hailey`s mom`s house containing hundreds of pornographic images.

ADKINS: If I had any knowledge of her whereabouts I would definitely come forward.

(END OF VIDEO CLIP)

JEAN CASAREZ, GUEST HOST: I`m Jean Casarez of "In Session" on the truTV Network in for Nancy Grace tonight.

Where is Hailey Dunn? We have followed this case for well more than a month now. She disappeared on December 27th. Last person to see her was her mother`s live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins. Some riveting new information to come out today.

Michael Board, reporter, WOAI Newstalk Radio, what was revealed today about the investigation?

MICHAEL BOARD, REPORTER, WOAI NEWSRADIO: In addition to the revelation that more than 100,000 pictures of pornography and bestiality were found on Shawn Adkins` mother`s computer and also a flash drive found in Billie Dunn`s home, we`re also learning a little bit more about the investigation today.

We know that they have had a wide ranging investigation looking at areas all around Colorado City. I was told today by a spokesman for the police department up there in Colorado City that a total of four landfills have been searched for any sort of evidence -- any evidence whatsoever about Billie Dunn.

You know we talk a lot about what`s being done to find her. Well, this is -- this is what`s being done. A total of four landfills searched. They had dogs out in these landfills. Absolutely no evidence coming up into these -- the family from what we`ve been told, is they believe the police need to work more on finding people who might know where Hailey is.

They`re deadest --

CASAREZ: But here is the revelation that is legally important and critically important to the life or death of Hailey Dunn. We confirmed that police are alleging tonight that it was child pornography that was found on the computer. Not just pornography, but child pornography. 108,000 pictures of child pornography.

In addition to that, a memory drive, a flash drive just like this. It was found in the dresser drawer of Billie Dunn, the mother who has been on this show so many times. And this, authorities say, they are taking to a grand jury to see -- to prosecutors to see if a grand jury should bring charges against her.

To Alexis Weed, NANCY GRACE producer, tell us more of what has been unsealed today.

ALEXIS WEED, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Sure, Jean. In addition to those 108,498 pictures, the memory stick, the CD that you mention from the dresser drawer and, Jean, mind you that CD drive, that flash drive, that was found in the dresser drawer at the bottom back in the corner as we`re learning from the search warrant return.

Also, Jean, in regards to the landfill search, there was a landfill search just on Tuesday in Big Spring. That is close to the location where Adkins` mother lived and where this computer came from.

The landfill search was said to not have turned up anything significant, however, dogs were used in that search. And that comes off of the most recent landfill search that we know of, January 20th, before this, at which time there were hits related to Hailey Dunn.

CASAREZ: So this is a very active investigation.

Out to Beverly in New York. Hi, Beverly.

BEVERLY, CALLER FROM NEW YORK: Hey, thanks for taking my call.

CASAREZ: You`re welcome.

BEVERLY: What I`m calling about is -- Hailey told her grandmother that she was afraid of him, if I remember right, that she thought she saw him standing at her bedroom door. I was a single mother. If I had even heard that about any of the guys that I dated at the time my daughter was young, I would have been all over them. And I think that this Billie, the mother, knows something.

CASAREZ: OK, Beverly, it`s a good point. I remember that when Billie Dunn was on, she was asked that question. And she said, I never knew. Hailey never told me that she was afraid of him.

To Leslie Austin, psychotherapist, what do you make of all this? Because this is very, very serious in many, many areas.

DR. LESLIE AUSTIN, PSYCHOTHERAPIST: Well, it certainly shows an obsession with -- pornography and deviant pornography of many kinds. And that the extent in the obsession and the compulsion of that is really a smoking gun that Hailey was likely in danger.

We don`t have any hard evidence that -- yet that anything happened to her but the likelihood grows greater the more we see these images. And Billie Dunn may not know things but if she doesn`t she may be just one of the most clueless, innocent people around who showed really poor judgment very consistently.

CASAREZ: To Paul Penzone, former sergeant of the Phoenix Police Department joining us tonight from Phoenix, Arizona.

Put this together for us. Because in your experience when you see so many images of child porn, that`s right, that`s one investigation in and of itself. But what does that mean for the alleged sexual molestation and even murder of Hailey Dunn?

PAUL PENZONE, DIRECT OF PREVENTION PROGRAMS, CHILDHELP.ORG, FMR. SERGEANT, PHOENIX PD: Well, those behaviors can go hand in hand and they often do. What you see is a person who -- and the question brought up earlier, what was going on around Hailey gave all the indicator that she felt that she was in danger with him.

Now we see his true personality. And I know I`m making a speculation, but forensic examiners will break down that computer. They will see what names were used, what e-mails were used, credit cards, anything at all to identify if in fact he was purchasing those.

But his personality traits was going on at that home given the extreme cause for concern as all of your viewers that he is responsible and is Hailey somewhere safe which is going to be highly unlikely at this point.

So getting enough charges -- and in Arizona every picture is an additional count. I don`t know if it`s the same in Texas. But those are concurrent, actually consecutive not concurrent charges.

CASAREZ: And that`s a good point. Hugo Rodriguez, defense attorney joining us out of Miami. 108,000 images on the computer alone. That could result in 108,000 charges.

HUGO RODRIGUEZ, DEFENSE ATTORNEY, FMR. FBI AGENT: It could. And it remained in the state. And the state prosecutor, it`s fine, but he could also be prosecuted by the federal government because that was all obtained via the Internet, and you would have those charge.

The thing is, is that it appears that this is just a progression of deviant conduct. If he is looking at little girls, which we`re going to speculate it is, I`m afraid that maybe she might have been the subject of some of his actions after that. And there`s a lot to -- it just says a whole lot about who this individual is and they should really focus even harder on him.

CASAREZ: To Barbara in New York. Hi, Barbara.

BARBARA, CALLER FROM NEW YORK: Hi, Jean, always a pleasure. Well, the previous caller stated what I wanted to state regarding Shawn stalking her outside of her bedroom in her own home.

Now, Billie denied knowing anything about her daughter`s fears. However, my feelings are -- and no, I don`t like to assume. But that -- that drive was in her dresser drawer. She, I think, and her boyfriend Shawn enjoyed watching child porn.

She was supposed to protect her child. And with that in the house she wasn`t protecting her child. So I do hope if anything she`s at least charged with possession of pornography.

CASAREZ: Marc Klaas. You were in that home. You got to know her. What are your thoughts now? What were your thoughts then? She -- I really enjoyed watching her. I thought she was very honest when she was on this show talking.

MARC KLAAS, PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER, KLAASKIDS FOUNDATION: I did, too. I did, too. And I`ll tell you, one thing that I don`t believe Billie Dunn is, is I don`t believe that she`s naive and clueless at all. I think she`s a very street savvy young lady. I think that she knows exactly what`s going on around her. And I find it very, very difficult to believe, in light of these new allegations or this new -- this new information, that she was completely clueless to absolutely everything that was going on.

I`m stunned by what we found out today. And I`m also really kind of interested in exactly why the police waited until today to make this explosive revelation.


CASAREZ: Yes, yes. I agree with you. I am stunned, too.

And everybody, we want to tell you that we`ve reached out to Shawn Adkins` attorney for a comment. The other side to all of this. And there is no response, there is no comment.

To Alexis Weed, I want to go just back to the beginning. Because the last person to ever see her on December 27th was Shawn Adkins, right, in the home?

WEED: Right. He says that he last saw her around 3:15 in the afternoon when she supposedly left and said that she was going to spend a night at the friend`s house. Then Adkins picked up her mother at work and told her the same story, that she was going to stay overnight with a friend.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: The former live-in boyfriend of Billie Dunn and only named suspect in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn.

ADKINS: I`m just tired of staying behind closed door. And I`m (INAUDIBLE). And I want to get back out there and live my life normally again.

(END OF VIDEO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

NANCY GRACE, HOST: Thirteen-year-old cheerleader.

DUNN: I don`t know where my daughter is.

GRACE: Never seen again.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have several people of interest.

GRACE: What do we know?

DUNN: I would like to say that I don`t care what people think of me.

ADKINS: I just hope she makes it home safe and sound.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: The only named suspect in this case.

DUNN: I started being told he`s just a hurdle we can`t get around.

GRACE: It`s been interpreted that you are concerned the boyfriend has something to do with Hailey`s disappearance.

DUNN: That bothers me a lot.

ADKINS: I wouldn`t do nothing to that little girl.

DUNN: Shawn, if you have nothing to hide, I really wish you would talk to the investigators.

ADKINS: I`m clueless. This could happen to anybody, what`s happening to me. And how would they feel if they`re in my shoes.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: But nobody is in Adkins` shoes and nobody knows the truth of what happened to Hailey Dunn.

(END OF VIDEO CLIP)

CASAREZ: I`m Jean Casarez of "In Session" in for Nancy Grace.

We wanted Billie Dunn on the show tonight. We asked her to come on. And at first she said yes, and then she declined. And you know how many times she`s been on the show. But she did tell us that she knows nothing about any child pornography on any computer or on memory stick or flash drive or CD. She said she knows nothing of it.

To Howard Oliver, joining us tonight, former medical director and forensic pathologist out of Los Angeles.

You know Hailey Dunn was a very young little girl. She was 13 years old. When a child goes for their routine pediatrician appointments, does a pediatrician ever check for sexual abuse of a child?

HOWARD OLIVER, FMR. DEPUTY MEDICAL EXAMINER, FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST: No. It`s not something that`s routinely checked unless the parent brings it up.

CASAREZ: All right. And another question, you know, when Shawn Adkins originally said that Hailey Dunn went missing on December 27th, that she went out without a coat. And it`s been a cold winter in Texas. That just doesn`t ad up, right?

OLIVER: It doesn`t add up at all. She has to keep warm some way. She had to have gone somewhere or been taken somewhere.

CASAREZ: All right. To Dawn in Missouri. Hi, Dawn.

DAWN, CALLER FROM MISSOURI: Hi, Jean.

CASAREZ: Thank you for calling.

DAWN: Jean, I want to know if we`ve got child pornography involved, why hasn`t he been arrested?

CASAREZ: Good question.

Joey Jackson, defense attorney, is there some strategy here? Why hasn`t someone been arrested?

JOEY JACKSON, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I think so. I mean, look, we have to keep our eye on the prize, and if the prize is finding and detecting and seeing where Hailey is, then maybe they should exercise some restraint until they`re absolutely sure.

The other issue is, is it`s being investigated by a grand jury. Let`s see what -- if there`s a determination then, and ultimately the police will do what`s just and what`s right and what`s appropriate.

CASAREZ: You know, to Hugo Rodriguez, if there was just 108,000 images of child porn on the computer found at Shawn Adkins` mother`s house, which police are alleging to us tonight, then I would say anybody could go to that computer. You don`t know who`s in that house, who lives there, who goes in and out.

But I`m concerned about the flash drive. This little piece right here, this little -- that was found in the dresser drawer of Billie Dunn.

RODRIGUEZ: Not only that, that means it`s portable, it`s taken. It`s brought in and brought out, it`s put into other computers and watched at other places.

What they`re doing now is doing some other analysis to see if they can peg the time and place of these -- when the images were placed on each different computer or stick or how it was generated from the Internet to see if they can put people in certain places to see if they can determine actually who it was.

Some of these things might have been purchased. They might have been exchanged with other individuals and things. He might have -- he or she might have exchanged things. So that`s what they`re doing now. They`re presenting it to the grand jury.

Each of them knew that these things had been taken. So it`s not new to them. So I think that it is better to be patient, but I think someone soon will be arrested if not on child endangerment but on the possession of those items.

CASAREZ: And this could be a huge investigation, you are so right.

To Laura in Michigan. Hi, Laura.

LAURA, CALLER FROM MICHIGAN: Hi, Jean. I have a comment about Shawn Adkinson. It really bothered me from the very beginning when they talk to him. These three words. "That little girl." Because where have we heard that before? We`ve heard it from Casey Anthony and also from Misty Croslin.

CASAREZ: Very, very interesting. You realize, Laura in Michigan, that he took, quote-unquote, "three polygraphs." The first two he walked out, the third, deception was indicated on the whereabouts of Hailey Dunn, but saying that, Billie Dunn, two polygraphs, the first one she didn`t take because she had narcotics in her. The second one she did take. Deception was indicated on helping or knowing the whereabouts of Hailey Dunn.

A little confusing in all of that.

To Paul Penzone, former sergeant from the Phoenix Police Department joining us tonight, what are your thoughts about this flash drive in the dresser drawer? I mean that just makes it even more serious because it`s within the home where Hailey Dunn lived.

PENZONE: I want the take it back a step with you, Jean. Do you remember early on -- on some confusing case, we covered a lot. We talked about how Billie and Shawn had a drug related issue. And she was not being forthright to talk about the time, I said if she`s not being forthright about every detail, I`m concerned.

There`s only one victim here, OK? That`s the little girl. Everyone else, I have cause for concern. If she`s in a relationship with somebody, I`m not saying that she could have been immune to knowing what he was doing, but I think that they had common interests, so that flash drive, what went on with it and the deception from both polygraphs, tells me a lot about both these individuals.

I don`t know who is responsible but there`s a lot of deception. And the mom should come forthright with every single detail no matter how it makes her look personally. That`s been bothered considerably since the beginning of this case.

CASAREZ: And to Paul Penzone, it also is a fact that on December 27th when she went missing after mother called the police they went to the ATM to get money for, police say, illicit drugs.

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Post by sdillard Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:11 am

SA:A witch hunt? Dont look now but theres a broom hangin out your butt. BD:I guess it IS dark with your head up your arse.

Whoever gets thrown under the bus, Im driving. Forward, gas, brake, screech...reverse, gas, brake, screech....forward, gas, brake, screech....reverse....you get the picture.
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Post by Guest Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:10 am

BJ wrote:Connie Ostrander was born in Jan of '62; Billie Dunn was born in May of '77 so Connie was only 14 when she got pregnant with Billie. Delbert Dean Ostrander (father) is the same age, 49, as Connie. Both of Billie's parents were 15 when she was born. Could be part of why this family has so many problems and such dysfunction.

BBM - I agree, BJ! I can't believe how young she is for a grandma... she's not much older than I am! Isn't she the one who was interviewed & someone posted her interview on here the other day? I thought she sounded quite sensible, and now this! Poor Hailey & David - these were their "role models". What is this world coming to?!?

As for the "child porn"... I hate to use those two words together! It is "child torture", and anyone who enjoys looking at a child being tortured is a sick human being & needs serious help. This includes SA & BD!! angry
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Post by Nama Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:52 am

Billie Dunn will not be appearing at an upcoming event aimed at putting an end to human trafficking after the news that a computer memory stick with images depicting child pornography was found in her house.

The memory stick was found as the result of search warrants being carried out at Dunn's home in Colorado City, following the disappearance of her 13-year-old daughter Hailey Dunn.

Billie and her estranged husband, Clint Dunn, originally were asked to appear together at a Traffick911 rally in Mansfield on Sunday. Traffick911 is an organization aimed at stopping the buying and selling of American children into sexual slavery.

"Traffick911 is deeply saddened by this revelation," Deena Graves, executive director of Traffick911, said in a statement Friday. "Any child in a pornographic image is a trafficked child and our organization is driven to stop the trafficking of children in any form."

The memory stick was confiscated from a dresser in the master bedroom of the home that Billie shared with then-boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, who also is the only named suspect in the disappearance of Hailey.

The memory stick contained "320 images and videos of pornographic nature," including images depicting bestiality and child pornography, according to Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs.

A computer was also seized from Adkin's mother's house in Big Spring. It also contains pornographic images, Sheriff Toombs said.

The Sunday event is for Hailey and other missing and exploited children, Graves said.

"The images found underscore how critical it is to focus on demand and help people understand how pornography drives this horrific crime against our children," she said.

Graves said although Billie Dunn will not speak at the rally, Clint Dunn will speak and hold a vigil for Hailey, who was reported missing Dec. 28.

Clint Dunn said he looks forward to the event and hopes it will draw attention to many people's ignorance concerning missing and exploited children.

"I've got to get the word out on this," he said, "that 2,200 kids go missing every day. I'm not talking about some number I got off the Internet, I'm talking about these are the real numbers of kids reported missing."

He said he was disappointed at the news of what the search warrant uncovered because it puts more stress on the search and takes more attention away from finding Hailey.

"I work so hard to get everything ironed out," he said, "and when I finally do another wrinkle pops up."

He maintains that he will look for his daughter until he finds her and hopes the event encourages people to continue to work to bring Hailey home.

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Post by Wrapitup Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:58 am

It seems to me that Clint Dunn has woken up out of his fog and is doing all he can to find Hailey. He doesn't in any way defame his estranged wife. I think he does this because of his kids.

A member upthread said they don't think Clint should speak at the rally. I agree. This is a wide open investigation and his child is missing. Due to the ramifications of the latest developments, I fear people will not treat him very kindly.
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Post by pepperann Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:41 am

Oh I think Clint definitely doesn't need to be speaking at a rally like this not being as close to the "mess" as he is. I agree Clint's heart is in the right place, he is doing what he can do to find Hailey, but I don't think he needs to be in public speaking right now considering all that has happened in the last 24 hours. No one would blame him for not being there.

As for czgtz, I'll say this, it's easy to sit at a computer and say anything you want to say whether it's the truth or not and I think that's alot of what she did. I think her original posts at WS were full of bull and I think it continued to snowball from there. I believe she dished out and I believe when people started confronting her about all the different stories she was spewing, she couldn't handle the pressure. I can only hope, if she is a good friend of Billie's, is that she is there with her today begging her to tell what happened to Hailey.

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Post by jeanne1807 Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:24 am

Boston_Lady wrote: omg I am up in Maine for the weekend. Just got back to my hotel room and rushed to see what had transpired since this morning. Wowsa. So they arrested Billie's mom.. another person taken away from Billie. And, along with her mom going into jail goes Billie's drug connection. So now she is alone, no support and no drugs to ease her nerves.

Billie may break and spill the beans. At the worst, she will throw Shawn under the bus..And then I'm sure Shawn will take her down with him.

I hope there will be NG transcripts to read because I missed the show. And, I want to see how all the experts have finally abandoned Billie. I was beginning to wonder if they would ever see thru her.

Although I'm pleased that she is being exposed, I"m worried we will never find Hailey.


You had me at "Hello I am in Maine". Last night I dreamt of Maine Lobsters. I think I shall enjoy one on my birthday next month. Yummm.

Sorry OT but I had to comment.
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Post by jeanne1807 Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:41 am

Clint Dunn has never been my hero. Upthread one of the posters described Clint Dunn very well. He does just enough to get by.

They said he "kinda parents" and he "kinda works" and he "kinda searches". Just enough. No more no less..well maybe less.

I would like to bring it down to read it again but my eyes are crossed reading about all the new developments.

Clint may have appeared to be a "hero" in this case simply because the others look so very bad.

But what has he done..really? He certainly did not protect his "daddys little girl". He was busy with his new family and his medicinal MJ.

He went out and searched a day or two but also received monitary handouts..one of them seen on camera in the Video posted yesterday with Haileys Angels.

Clint is kind of Half Time. He is just there. Not doing much.

I can not believe he is going to speak at this conference this weekend. Imagine that.

But really. Clint had to know what Hailey was going through. He knew these people his "daddys little girl" was living with.

But as usual Clint did nothing..he was a pot smoker..how could he gain custody and he was a new daddy and and and..... umno
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Post by truthbtold Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:48 am

Jeanne,

I think your theory up-thread about Hailey being in hiding is a good one. I had one very similar to it, including Hailey's condition (after the school video was released). As this has dragged on and we have learned the truth about what Hailey was subjected to by her mother and her mother's lover, it seems way less likely. But, I still hope it's true and think there's a very small chance that Hailey is alive and was forced into hiding. I so want to think Hailey could still be alive...
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Post by truthbtold Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:12 am

sdillard wrote:SA:A witch hunt? Dont look now but theres a broom hangin out your butt. BD:I guess it IS dark with your head up your arse.

Whoever gets thrown under the bus, Im driving. Forward, gas, brake, screech...reverse, gas, brake, screech....forward, gas, brake, screech....reverse....you get the picture.

ROFLMAO

Pssst Shawn, if you don't want to get caught in a witch hunt, don't be riding around with a broom hangin' out your butt, warts on your nose, and performing dastardly deeds against others...
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Post by truthbtold Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:25 am


Friday, February 25 2011

The grandmother of missing Colorado City 13-year-old Hailey Dunn is behind bars in Scurry County.
Deputies tell bigcountryhomepage.com Connie Ostrander was arrested Friday on drug charges.

Ostrander, 49, is the mother of Billie Dunn. She faces a charge of possession of a controlled substance.

According to publicdata.com, Ostrander has a history of arrests including three DWIs, assault, theft, and possession of marijuana.

Last week, Hailey's father, Clint Dunn, was arrested also arrested in Scurry County. Dunn turned himself in on a warrant for violating his probation with the original charge of marijuana possession, driving with an expired license, and a unsafe backing.

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Post by lisette Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:27 am

jeanne wrote:
Clint is kind of Half Time. He is just there. Not doing much.

I can not believe he is going to speak at this conference this weekend. Imagine that.

But really. Clint had to know what Hailey was going through. He knew these people his "daddys little girl" was living with.

I agree


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Post by lisette Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:29 am

Last week, Hailey's father, Clint Dunn, was arrested also arrested in Scurry County. Dunn turned himself in on a warrant for violating his probation with the original charge of marijuana possession, driving with an expired license, and a unsafe backing.
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Another reason he should NOT be speaking at that conference! Don't the organizers know these things about him?
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Big Country News and Interview with Billie last evening.

Watching Billie in that video and listening to her answers is just unbelievable. She is so off, imo...

P.s. I sure wish the interviewer had been properly miked up or closer to Billie; you can barely hear the questions but Billie's answers are loud and clear (and vague as usual)...
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Post by raine1953 Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:00 am

Billie Dunn needs to shut up and lawyer up. If she's smart that's what she'll do, with her Mother is in jail and this alleged child porn and bestiality on the memory stick found in her home she needs to realize she cannot talk herself out of anything any longer.
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Post by artgal16 Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:01 am

One of the hallmarks of a sociopath is the ability to get people to like and believe in them. Thats why they are able to get by with the things they do. Billie and Shawn both are sociopaths they have the same charateristics of the Satsuma bunch and Caylee Anthony, Drew and Scott Peterson. It shouldnt really come as a surprise. Im not sure about Clint except we know he has a severe drug problem and I always felt that the group who asked him to speak was making a huge mistake. Someone up thread asked why they arrested Connie when they could have arrested others in this case. That is a very important question. Something she might know that LE wants is my belief.
Does she have any source for money? Is she on welfare? Shes not even 50 years old.
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#4 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City,TX/Search Affidavits released in Feb - page 3/Billie denies knowledge of beastiality images& child porn on computer of Shawn Adkins, primary suspect, & memory stick found in Billie's home/Billie arrested 03/17 Empty Re: #4 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City,TX/Search Affidavits released in Feb - page 3/Billie denies knowledge of beastiality images& child porn on computer of Shawn Adkins, primary suspect, & memory stick found in Billie's home/Billie arrested 03/17

Post by jeanne1807 Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:06 am

I know some are not a fan of this website but after reading it this morning I just had to bring it over.

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Pretty much hits the nail on the head.
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