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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Nama Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:50 pm
by lessa Today at 12:44 am He downloaded a mislabeled file and because it was a P2P site, it uploaded AT THE SAME TIME as it was being downloaded. He was guilty of distributing before he could possibly have known what it was.
So was it a one time thing.....just happened with one file? Is it only that one charge against him?
While searching for info on this case I have found so many articles of arrests for child porn in Cleveland. What is it about Cleveland?
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Guest Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:59 pm
There's no way to be sure, BJ. Most of the charges against him have yet to be explained, since the full reading of the indictment was waived. My chief concern is that the trial is being pushed through at a breakneck pace that leaves him less than a week to retain counsel and have the evidence examined or a defense prepared. The whole thing stinks to high heaven, despite the exceedingly remote possibility of his guilt.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Nama Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:08 am
I hope he has a good attorney and if he is truly innocent that it can be proven. This has to be a nightmare for him and his family. My heart goes out to his mother.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Wrapitup Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:16 am
I also feel very bad for him and his family. Imagine if he is innocent and he lost his job for nothing. I think this was asked before but after 15 years on the job, why would they simply fire him without any proof? I think BJ supplied an attorney's name on Page 2 in the Cleveland area.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Guest Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:08 am
Because before he was indicted, the investigator told his employer what he was suspected of, possibly in an attempt to gain evidence. There's STILL no proof, but his picture has been published on the internet next to the charges against him. Only the people who know him well enough to know the details of the actions that led to him being charged know he's not guilty at this point.
Don't get me wrong, I despise people who film or photograph children being raped and tortured for personal gratification, and I support the agencies that are trying to stop it, but an innocent man's life has been wrecked. What's wrong with this picture?
Don't get me wrong, I despise people who film or photograph children being raped and tortured for personal gratification, and I support the agencies that are trying to stop it, but an innocent man's life has been wrecked. What's wrong with this picture?
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Nama Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:23 am
If he's found innocent he should be able to get his job back. I'm not sure him getting fired is legal....but I'm not an attorney. I hope he has a good one.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Nama Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:54 am
Here's another child porn arrest in Ohio.
Akron police call it one of the worst cases of child pornography they've ever investigated.
A Hazel Street couple is accused of using children — all girls under the age of 13 — to produce pornography.
Authorities say the couple has been making pornography for years.
Michael Lee Winland, 37, and Stephennie Murphy, 31, are in the Summit County Jail, accused in the creation of hundreds of images of the girls performing sex acts.
Police say Winland produced the material and Murphy did nothing about it.
Winland is currently charged with 18 counts of pandering obscenity involving a minor and pandering sexually oriented matter involving a minor.
Murphy is charged with complicity to rape, pandering material involving a minor, pandering sexually oriented material involving a minor, illegal use of a minor in nudity-oriented material and child endangering.
More charges are expected as detectives and computer forensic experts continue to scour the couple's computers for more evidence and more victims, police said.
''It is definitely one of the worst cases we've ever come across,'' said police Lt. Rick Edwards.
Winland's attorney, Kerry O'Brien, could not be reached for comment.
The investigation into the couple began Aug. 16 when an 8-year-old girl was treated at Akron Children's Hospital for sexual trauma, police detective Lt. Gerald Kelley said.
''And it snowballed from there,'' Kelley said.
Police detectives say their investigations show that the couple has been producing child pornography for several years. Their victims are family acquaintances and those children's friends.
The couple lives in an upstairs apartment on Hazel Street on the city's near East Side. Police are unsure if they are married, however, they said the couple has lived together for several years and have a child together.
Today, no one answered the door to their home or at their neighbors' homes.
Some of the victims in the case are being cared for by Summit County Children Services.
''We have multiple victims right now,'' Kelley said, ''but we're also looking, from things that have been said, at other victims. We're looking at other children who possibly have been sexually assaulted as well.''
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Akron police call it one of the worst cases of child pornography they've ever investigated.
A Hazel Street couple is accused of using children — all girls under the age of 13 — to produce pornography.
Authorities say the couple has been making pornography for years.
Michael Lee Winland, 37, and Stephennie Murphy, 31, are in the Summit County Jail, accused in the creation of hundreds of images of the girls performing sex acts.
Police say Winland produced the material and Murphy did nothing about it.
Winland is currently charged with 18 counts of pandering obscenity involving a minor and pandering sexually oriented matter involving a minor.
Murphy is charged with complicity to rape, pandering material involving a minor, pandering sexually oriented material involving a minor, illegal use of a minor in nudity-oriented material and child endangering.
More charges are expected as detectives and computer forensic experts continue to scour the couple's computers for more evidence and more victims, police said.
''It is definitely one of the worst cases we've ever come across,'' said police Lt. Rick Edwards.
Winland's attorney, Kerry O'Brien, could not be reached for comment.
The investigation into the couple began Aug. 16 when an 8-year-old girl was treated at Akron Children's Hospital for sexual trauma, police detective Lt. Gerald Kelley said.
''And it snowballed from there,'' Kelley said.
Police detectives say their investigations show that the couple has been producing child pornography for several years. Their victims are family acquaintances and those children's friends.
The couple lives in an upstairs apartment on Hazel Street on the city's near East Side. Police are unsure if they are married, however, they said the couple has lived together for several years and have a child together.
Today, no one answered the door to their home or at their neighbors' homes.
Some of the victims in the case are being cared for by Summit County Children Services.
''We have multiple victims right now,'' Kelley said, ''but we're also looking, from things that have been said, at other victims. We're looking at other children who possibly have been sexually assaulted as well.''
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by CritterFan1 Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:15 am
I have accidentally come across a filthy site in a search, I back out that second. Never have I ever had child porn pop up, Never. It is like the people into child porn have their own secret/private network to be able to find these types of horrible pictures.charminglane wrote:Very well said, Sassy and Marica.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Guest Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:47 am
It's not enough to just back out of a site, you also have to report it to the police if there is anything illegal occurring on the webpage. Otherwise you are guilty of pandering.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by CritterFan1 Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:57 am
How can I be guilty of pandering if I do not open the dirty site? Most of the time I get dirty emails, wanting me to increase my male organ, which I do not have. I would never open something that I did not know where it came from. Fear of viruses!
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Nama Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:03 am
I know how those sites like Limewire work. If you are downloading music and you do a search for an artist you get a list of songs available. You click on the ones that you want and hit download. The songs come from other peoples computers that are connected to Limewire at the time, NOT from Limewire. Occasionally when you click on the song to play it, the song doesn't match the title.....it will be a song you weren't expecting (could that be where the porn came from????). As long as you are connected to Limewire, all the songs that you have saved to your computer are available to other members of Limewire, too. I hope that made sense.by CritterFan1 Today at 8:57 am How can I be guilty of pandering if I do not open the dirty site?
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Limewire
by Nama Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:37 am
The mechanics-- you download a piece of software called Limewire, and install it on your computer. When you install it you tell it where you want your downloads stored on your hard drive. That section becomes "public". I.E. everybody else with Limewire installed on their machine will be able to search that part of your drive when they sign onto Limewire.
When you sign onto Limewire, your machine reads that same directory and advises all inquirers that you have certain named files on the drive.
Limewire is an example of a distributed system, all the files comprising it are stored on the users' machines, only the names of those files are available in a search index, created when somebody makes an inquiry. The search/inquiry they make gets checked against all of the directories which are signed on at the time. Then a result from the search is reported to the inquirer. The inquirer can then decide to download a particular file from a particular user.
When you sign onto Limewire, your machine reads that same directory and advises all inquirers that you have certain named files on the drive.
Limewire is an example of a distributed system, all the files comprising it are stored on the users' machines, only the names of those files are available in a search index, created when somebody makes an inquiry. The search/inquiry they make gets checked against all of the directories which are signed on at the time. Then a result from the search is reported to the inquirer. The inquirer can then decide to download a particular file from a particular user.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Wrapitup Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:32 am
WHY oh WHY would anyone in their right mind allow another to have access to a part of another's hard drive? This is what I don't get..music be damned.
That section becomes "public". I.E. everybody else with Limewire installed on their machine will be able to search that part of your drive when they sign onto Limewire.
I think site's like Limewire, etc., should be against the law.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Nama Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:45 am
There is an option to NOT allow anyone access to what is on your computer, but I think most people are happy to 'share' on sites like Limewire.by Wrapitup Today at 12:32 pm oh WHY would anyone in their right mind allow another to have access to a part of another's hard drive? This is what I don't get..music be damned.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by charminglane Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:30 pm
I am going to get rid of my LimeWire. All the music I have wanted is already downloaded to my ipod. I always made sure I did not "share."
Still, better safe than sorry.
Still, better safe than sorry.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by TerryRose Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:42 pm
Someone asked what is it about Cleveland? Cleveland is no different than any other city across this country. We are just hearing about some of the cases that happen to be in Cleveland in the last few months. These types of cases are everywhere, not just in Cleveland.
Secondly, the post about the Akron bust is not Cleveland. Akron is a different large city in the state of Ohio and has nothing much to do with Cleveland.
When I read of the endictments I wonder if some of the people in the group know each other, are friends, or are otherwise affiliated with each other in some fashion?
Secondly, the post about the Akron bust is not Cleveland. Akron is a different large city in the state of Ohio and has nothing much to do with Cleveland.
When I read of the endictments I wonder if some of the people in the group know each other, are friends, or are otherwise affiliated with each other in some fashion?
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Nama Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:51 pm
My BAD. I corrected my comment. Thanks!by TerryRose Today at 1:42 pm Secondly, the post about the Akron bust is not Cleveland. Akron is a different large city in the state of Ohio and has nothing much to do with Cleveland.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Nama Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:53 pm
There are at least two of the accused that show up on MySpace as each others 'friends'. I don't know about the rest of them.by TerryRose Today at 1:42 pm When I read of the endictments I wonder if some of the people in the group know each other, are friends, or are otherwise affiliated with each other in some fashion?
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This is Adam Csanad's MySpace. The ONE woman charged, Illeana Kaufmann, is one of his friends.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by TerryRose Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:56 pm
He lost his job. It may seem that he has been fired because of his being involved in this case and his picture and name were publicized. However, most of the population in this area is fearing losing their jobs right now. Employers will seize upon anything to let someone go, especially someone who has been with them a long time. Generally, they are out to save money by firing the one who has a higher payscale because of their length of service and replace them with someone fresh out of school at half the pay. Also, they find reasons to get rid of anyone celebrating his or her 50th birthday because it is better for their bottom line. They have been doing this since the 80s, but now many industries have closed down and moved to India and China and there aren't very many people in the depressed city of Cleveland and surrounding areas who have not been affected by loss of jobs for whatever reason. It is an employers' market right now and there are a very reduced number of employers in the Cleveland area now to begin with. Chances are they wanted to get rid of him anyway and found a convenient excuse by the publication of his involvement in these crimes.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Guest Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:16 pm
I appreciate the perspective, but he lost his job because he was under investigation for kiddie porn, not because someone was looking for an excuse to fire him. And that isn't the extent of the damage, his picture has published on the internet next to a list of kiddie porn felony charges by an irresponsible press that doesn't seem to care about a lack of substantive evidence. This is a disaster for him, and any other charged suspect who happens to be innocent. A disaster that could have been avoided if the ICAC had focused on quality rather than quantity in their investigation.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Guest Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:46 am
We will be more than happy to also put it all over the internet if any of them are found innocent. Our system may not be perfect but as stated in this thread we have the best in the world. The innocent victims are the kids that were subjected to vicious child sexual abuse. I just can't believe that the accused are being made victims. I am trying to be sympathetic to the families whose loved ones have been accused and arrested. But it is getting harder to do that. The children were the victims. In my mind it is better to let justice take it's course rather than debate their innocence here on VH. The media has been instrumental in helping to solve crimes and find missing children. In the stories I read there was nothing irresponsible in their reporting.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by CritterFan1 Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:43 am
I agree Linda Marie. If and when he is found innocent of the charges, he could hire a lawyer and probably get his job back. Wonder if there is a morals clause where he worked for 15 years?
I am having a hard time reading this thread, it really tortures me to think what these children were exposed to. No matter who perpetrated this crime, if they are guilty they should never see the light of a free day again. IMHO.
I am having a hard time reading this thread, it really tortures me to think what these children were exposed to. No matter who perpetrated this crime, if they are guilty they should never see the light of a free day again. IMHO.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by TerryRose Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:29 am
LM and Critter, I totally agree with what you both have written. If some have been charged with "creating" the porn, then it seems as though they have found the children who have been victimized and they will be helped as a result. I had feared that they would not be able to locate the victims in any of these internet stings and that in that case the abuse would go on. I hope they have located all the victims and saved them in this instance.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by TerryRose Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:36 am
I have some concern for the juveniles involved in this case that have been charged. I would assume that not all are bad kids, but probably didn't know any better and were led astray by adults.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Nama Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:42 am
All but two of the accused are charged with Pandering (Creation). I would like to know exactly what this term means.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Marica Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:04 pm
So much of what we read here is horrible news, so it must seem as if those who bring stories here thrive on these types of reports. Yet, if you do a thorough study of VH, you find beautiful stories shared here as well, and members are eager to add their joyful comments to those threads. I have no doubt, that when any person involved in this story should be found innocent of charges, VH will be of the first to celebrate the news.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by TerryRose Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:10 pm
Marica wrote:So much of what we read here is horrible news, so it must seem as if those who bring stories here thrive on these types of reports. Yet, if you do a thorough study of VH, you find beautiful stories shared here as well, and members are eager to add their joyful comments to those threads. I have no doubt, that when any person involved in this story should be found innocent of charges, VH will be of the first to celebrate the news.
We say it over and over again---We want justice for the victims! We, unlike so many other sites of this type, are not out to ruin peoples' reputations, not out to slander and libel anybody, not out to make fun of people like Cindy A as they do mercilessly on other sites, not out to judge, we simply cry out for justice for the victims. I think most of us here just find a way of venting our sorrows and anger over the news we see on TV about crimes against children and other crimes against innocent people. It is therapeutic sometimes to have this outlet for our emotions and thoughts. We always hope that we might one day be of help in locating a missing child simply through this awareness of these cases brought before us in this forum, knowing full well that that is a long shot. In short, this site is comprised of people who actually CARE about the children who are victims of crime and other innocent people victimized, and that I think is what brings us together, We CARE, plain and simple.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Guest Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:27 pm
That's so nice. But the article in the OP is just a commercial for operation Cyber Safe with a some quotes from Bill Mason and a few of the suspects' names, nothing at all about the victims.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by TerryRose Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:21 pm
OP? What is that?
Also, no victims' names would ever be publicized unless they were missing persons simply because they are minors, I would assume. We know that there are victims and that they are children ranging in age from toddler (or babies) to teens.
Also, no victims' names would ever be publicized unless they were missing persons simply because they are minors, I would assume. We know that there are victims and that they are children ranging in age from toddler (or babies) to teens.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Nama Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:28 pm
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36.Walls, Brandyn, 18, Cleveland
Indicted on 20 Charges
1 x Pandering (Creation)
18 x Pandering (Sharing)
1 x Possessing Criminal Tools
36.Walls, Brandyn, 18, Cleveland
Indicted on 20 Charges
1 x Pandering (Creation)
18 x Pandering (Sharing)
1 x Possessing Criminal Tools
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Nama Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:37 pm
"Was fired today from work. My partner took a phone call that I was banned from all stores and no talking with employees working or not. Mood: betrayed" Posted at 7:29 PM Dec 18, 2009
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30.Quick, Kelly, 51, Cleveland
Indicted on 45 Charges
19 x Pandering (Sharing)
24 x Pandering (Creation)
1 x Illegal Use of a Minor
1 x Possessing Criminal Tools
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Canonico reports one of the suspects...Kelly Quick was arrested on the spot because he had two prior sex offense convictions in Indiana.
30.Quick, Kelly, 51, Cleveland
Indicted on 45 Charges
19 x Pandering (Sharing)
24 x Pandering (Creation)
1 x Illegal Use of a Minor
1 x Possessing Criminal Tools
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by Nama Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:08 pm
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4.Bennett, Arthur, 30, Brooklyn
Indicted on 64 Charges
51 x Pandering (Creation)
10 x Pandering (Sharing)
1 x Possessing Criminal Tools
2 x Illegal Use of a Minor
4.Bennett, Arthur, 30, Brooklyn
Indicted on 64 Charges
51 x Pandering (Creation)
10 x Pandering (Sharing)
1 x Possessing Criminal Tools
2 x Illegal Use of a Minor
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Nama Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:21 pm
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33.Rostance, Kyle, 20, Lakewood
Indicted on 29 Charges
26 x Pandering (Sharing)
2 x Pandering (Creation)
1 x Possessing Criminal Tools
33.Rostance, Kyle, 20, Lakewood
Indicted on 29 Charges
26 x Pandering (Sharing)
2 x Pandering (Creation)
1 x Possessing Criminal Tools
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Guest Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:33 pm
Pandering
1. To act as a go-between or liaison in sexual intrigues; function as a procurer.
2. To cater to the lower tastes and desires of others or exploit their weaknesses
1. To act as a go-between or liaison in sexual intrigues; function as a procurer.
2. To cater to the lower tastes and desires of others or exploit their weaknesses
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Lilone Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:18 pm
Hi, everyone!
First thing I would like to point out is that computers do get hacked, pirated, and used as storage places for files that belong to the hacker. I have also heard that many p2p and especially Limewire are known to have security issues that would allow such activity.
However, before LE comes in and charges someone with a crime, they must have a reasonable suspicion and appropriate evidence to do so. I do not believe that innocent persons are charged with major crimes "just because".
While his computer may have child porn files on it, computer forensics will tell LE how and when it got there, when and how many times it has been accessed and by whom. Where did they get Nekuyo's son's name? What did they find when they looked into his computer? What incriminating evidence was hiding there in his files?
Having watched very carefully the investigation into the death of Caylee Anthony, and having studied the computer forensics from that case, it is obvious that some evidence is circumstantial, but some is concrete. A person's name alone found on someone's computer would not be reasonable evidence to bring charges against him for child pornography.
There is certainly some reason, some evidence, and as ordinary citizens, we may have no access to the evidence until it is released by the court as a public record. Even Moms only know what they've been told.
First thing I would like to point out is that computers do get hacked, pirated, and used as storage places for files that belong to the hacker. I have also heard that many p2p and especially Limewire are known to have security issues that would allow such activity.
However, before LE comes in and charges someone with a crime, they must have a reasonable suspicion and appropriate evidence to do so. I do not believe that innocent persons are charged with major crimes "just because".
While his computer may have child porn files on it, computer forensics will tell LE how and when it got there, when and how many times it has been accessed and by whom. Where did they get Nekuyo's son's name? What did they find when they looked into his computer? What incriminating evidence was hiding there in his files?
Having watched very carefully the investigation into the death of Caylee Anthony, and having studied the computer forensics from that case, it is obvious that some evidence is circumstantial, but some is concrete. A person's name alone found on someone's computer would not be reasonable evidence to bring charges against him for child pornography.
There is certainly some reason, some evidence, and as ordinary citizens, we may have no access to the evidence until it is released by the court as a public record. Even Moms only know what they've been told.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by TerryRose Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:36 pm
Welcome, lilone. Please offer more of your thoughts in the future on the various threads. I enjoyed reading the above well-thought-out post.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Lilone Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:39 pm
TY, TerryRose. I've lurked here some and finally decided to register so I could join you all in your desire for justice for victims, and in particular, child victims.
You will most likely hear from me again... and again... and again!
You will most likely hear from me again... and again... and again!
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Guest Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:41 pm
Lilone wrote:TY, TerryRose. I've lurked here some and finally decided to register so I could join you all in your desire for justice for victims, and in particular, child victims.
You will most likely hear from me again... and again... and again!
:hi there: I am so glad to see you posting.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Lilone Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:55 pm
TY, Lindamarie. I see there are many people here who might remember me from CSO last year. I do remember many of you!
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Nama Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:07 pm
Welcome to VH, Lilone! You ARE remembered!
I know when you download a song from those p2p sites that some songs will have the correct title, some will come in with a name that looks like a code and you don't know if the song is what you actually wanted unless you play it. It's not always what you expect it to be. Also some of the downloads come to your computer with a warning that there the file is contaminated or corrupted. But, I have never heard of someone downloading a 'song' and getting porn, instead.
I know when you download a song from those p2p sites that some songs will have the correct title, some will come in with a name that looks like a code and you don't know if the song is what you actually wanted unless you play it. It's not always what you expect it to be. Also some of the downloads come to your computer with a warning that there the file is contaminated or corrupted. But, I have never heard of someone downloading a 'song' and getting porn, instead.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Marica Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:37 pm
Patiently waiting for evidence and convictions. May all of those guilty of crimes against children be tracked down and punished. Keep thinking about the slime who murdered Sarah Foxwell. His long record of sexual offenses should have had him behind bars.
Child Porn, is but small steps away from the act of sexual abuse. Anyone who watches and collects this horrific stuff, is (to me) as guilty as those who have sexually abused children.
Every time I see a sweep/sting, where large numbers of these animals are being brought to justice, I breath a sigh of relief.
Child Porn, is but small steps away from the act of sexual abuse. Anyone who watches and collects this horrific stuff, is (to me) as guilty as those who have sexually abused children.
Every time I see a sweep/sting, where large numbers of these animals are being brought to justice, I breath a sigh of relief.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Nama Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:47 pm
I've checked out the MySpace pages of some of the accused and many are men with children. I wonder if their children are in the porn or if they only want to watch someone else's children being sexually abused?
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by TerryRose Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:04 pm
pitiful, isn't it BJ? We can only wonder what kind of fathers they are to their own kids.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Lilone Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:16 am
My neighbor's sons used to use Limewire and their computer was continuously infected. Now, whether they were just telling their mom it was Limewire causing it, or whether it was actually Limewire causing it, we may never know, but their computer was in the shop most of the time...
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by CritterFan1 Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:44 am
I had never heard of Limewire before this case. Lilone, so you think the computer gets infected because their hard drive is available to anyone on Lime wire so they can "share" music?Lilone wrote:My neighbor's sons used to use Limewire and their computer was continuously infected. Now, whether they were just telling their mom it was Limewire causing it, or whether it was actually Limewire causing it, we may never know, but their computer was in the shop most of the time...
Viruses are one thing, kiddie porn is another. I feel sure your friends kids were not looking at kiddie porn. Glad I don't have Limewire. I hate getting a virus.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by TerryRose Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:17 am
Since the early days of the internet, on instructional TV regarding computers (eg. Screensavers on Direct TV) and newspaper help columns, the warnings have always been made very sternly about file-sharing programs and the risk of getting unwanted Trojans, Worms, and Viruses from these types of internet behaviors. It is probably still true because if you leave your computer open to fileshare, you can easily get the viruses, etc. from the other computers that are sharing with you. Knowing that, however, I still cannot see downloading unwanted kiddie porn without your consent and knowledge. These would not be stealth like the above, but rather they would be visible to you. Actually, as noted above, the proof lies with just tracking when the files were accessed, how often, and by the owner of the computer, and also if the owner of the computer then sent them on. All this is easily found out by even the likes of me, a person of limited computer technical skills.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by CritterFan1 Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:06 am
TR, you sound like a computer wiz to me, i did not think such files could just "accidentally" show up...esp "accidentally" get forwarded on to some one else. I am sure the FBI is all over the computers. :geek2: :FBI:
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by TerryRose Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:21 am
a ps to my previous post: the warnings I heard several years ago mostly had to do with invasion of privacy on one's own computer, such as financial records and personal record files that one might have on one's own computer. When you are leaving your computer open to file sharing, all files, even private personal ones can be accessed. This alarm was given, never suspecting that kiddie porn would one day be shared in this way. So I pass along this warning to those who are using limewire or other file sharing programs, assuming this to still be the case.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Nama Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:23 pm
New Year’s Eve arraignments were held for numerous child-porn defendants this morning in Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court.
Jesse Canonico, assistant Cuyahoga County prosecutor says 23 suspects faced the judge today, 4 did not show and arrest warrants were issued for them.
Nine additional defendants will be arraigned next week.
Canonico reports one of the suspects...Kelly Quick was arrested on the spot because he had two prior sex offense convictions in Indiana.
It sounds like those accused must be out on bail, since warrants were issued for 4 no shows.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by Guest Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:24 pm
How many of us have been screaming at LE to protect the children and stop crimes like this? Now they are doing just that and we should be grateful that people that trade and create child porn are being charged. I am not going to lose sight of the true victims regarding crimes like this.
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Re: Alleged Child Pornographers Targeted Around the World
by TerryRose Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:09 pm
Yes, LM, I heartily agree with you. This thread also opened up a side issue that is beneficial to know about, which is the file-sharing programs like Limewire and learning about this is good and is not off-topic because it is the excuse being used by one of the defendants who lays all the blame for his being in trouble with the law upon this software program.
I am still rejoicing that there are task forces making these busts because I want to see this abuse of children halted and those who abuse children in this manner removed from society and the child victims rescued from it.
I am still rejoicing that there are task forces making these busts because I want to see this abuse of children halted and those who abuse children in this manner removed from society and the child victims rescued from it.
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