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Post by Guest Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:49 pm

CritterFan1 wrote:I am sorry for what you are going thru Neo, I do not understand your remark that your friends and family that are members here at VH are stunned and horrified by what your son is being put thru here. Everyone at VH tries so hard to be fair and balanced and non judgmental. I am sorry that you find us otherwise. Everyone here at VH just cares about all victims... when your son is found innocent, he will officially be a victim as well. For you and your family's sake I hope that he is innocent of all charges.

I did not mean what he is being through here. I meant what he is being put through by the justice system. And I did not mean this thread here, I meant the published article.

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Post by TerryRose Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:54 pm

Thanks, Critter.
neo, when you get some time, please go back to some old threads on this site to get a handle on who we are at VH. You will find nobody here drinks the koolaid, as you like to say, and certainly not me---I always hated the stuff, lol, and always prefer the real thing---fruit juice. You will find me the biggest champion of families of the accused on this and a previous blog site from which most of us came. I like VH so very much because we don't indulge in persecuting innocent people like Cindy Anthony and, when I came to her defense with empathy in my heart for her as a mother and grandmother with the deepest sorrow imaginable, almost everyone on that other site was against me because they liked to ridicule and criticize this woman mercilessly and I didn't get with their program. This is not true of this site. People here are not out to ridicule others in their misery. All you have to do is read back on the old threads and I hope that you have done that because you will find no affiliation with prosecutors, public officials, or any sort of propaganda machines, or PR sources. You will only find well-meaning individuals who originally came together because of their shock and horror over a sweet little 2-year-old in Florida having been murdered.
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Post by Wrapitup Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:04 pm

Since neoflander has not made it crystal clear, I will tell you that I emailed her and Nekuyo is her sister or daughter. As is Lessa. So, there are 3 here that are related to the accused.

Neoflander, as the mother of the accused, if more of your family or friends join, which they are more than welcome to do, please make sure they identify themselves as a family member or friend. They don't have to say how they are related.

Now, I need to tell you, Neoflander, that I honestly empathize with you as I have two grown sons of my own. I am sure this is tearing you and your family apart. However, I do not want this or any thread to become a sounding board reference politics WITHOUT a link to back it up. In other words, if the DA is out for fame and glory and some, including your son, are innocent..I need a link to show us what your are talking about. From now on, I must require that from any VH member who lambasts a person's character..in particular..a person whose face is in the media, ie..political figures in this case.

Thank you.
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Post by Wrapitup Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:08 pm

Terry Rose and Critter, well said.

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Post by Guest Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:13 pm

Wrapitup wrote:Terry Rose and Critter, well said.

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Post by TerryRose Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:50 pm

Wrapitup wrote:Since neoflander has not made it crystal clear, I will tell you that I emailed her and Nekuyo is her sister or daughter. As is Lessa. So, there are 3 here that are related to the accused.

Neoflander, as the mother of the accused, if more of your family or friends join, which they are more than welcome to do, please make sure they identify themselves as a family member or friend. They don't have to say how they are related.

Now, I need to tell you, Neoflander, that I honestly empathize with you as I have two grown sons of my own. I am sure this is tearing you and your family apart. However, I do not want this or any thread to become a sounding board reference politics WITHOUT a link to back it up. In other words, if the DA is out for fame and glory and some, including your son, are innocent..I need a link to show us what your are talking about. From now on, I must require that from any VH member who lambasts a person's character..in particular..a person whose face is in the media, ie..political figures in this case.

Thank you.
I am still confused, looking back once again at the posts of both Nekuyo and neoaflander, in that they both claim to be mothers of an accused son who is innocent of these charges. So are we talking about 2 separate sons of 2 separate mothers here that are closely related to one another? Or have I just misread somewhere?
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TerryRose wrote:
Wrapitup wrote:Since neoflander has not made it crystal clear, I will tell you that I emailed her and Nekuyo is her sister or daughter. As is Lessa. So, there are 3 here that are related to the accused.

Neoflander, as the mother of the accused, if more of your family or friends join, which they are more than welcome to do, please make sure they identify themselves as a family member or friend. They don't have to say how they are related.

Now, I need to tell you, Neoflander, that I honestly empathize with you as I have two grown sons of my own. I am sure this is tearing you and your family apart. However, I do not want this or any thread to become a sounding board reference politics WITHOUT a link to back it up. In other words, if the DA is out for fame and glory and some, including your son, are innocent..I need a link to show us what your are talking about. From now on, I must require that from any VH member who lambasts a person's character..in particular..a person whose face is in the media, ie..political figures in this case.

Thank you.
I am still confused, looking back once again at the posts of both Nekuyo and neoaflander, in that they both claim to be mothers of an accused son who is innocent of these charges. So are we talking about 2 separate sons of 2 separate mothers here that are closely related to one another? Or have I just misread somewhere?

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tells you where the da got the money
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From the Desk of Bill Masone
Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force Receives Stimulus Money
10/06/2009

Working with Ohio Attorney General Richard Cordray, the Ohio Internet Crimes Against Children (ICAC) Task Force, which I chair, recently received 1.2 million dollars in stimulus money.

ICAC is a multi-jurisdictional task force of city, county, state and federal law enforcement organizations that have collaborated since 2000. Currently, the Ohio ICAC has 280 law enforcement partners in all 88 Ohio counties.

These ICAC Recovery Funds will allow the Ohio Task Force to partner with the Ohio Attorney General's Office (OAG) to increase its Cyber-Tip and Peer-to-Peer investigations and expand its computer forensic capacity.

With the funding, we are hiring six employees, four for the Ohio Attorney General's Office and two for Cuyahoga County Prosecutors Office who will be designated in Northeast Ohio (Cleveland-area), in Southwestern Ohio (Dayton-area) and Central Ohio (Columbus-area) counties.

Increasing the investigative capabilities of Ohio ICAC will result in enhanced detection, investigation, prosecution, and apprehension of Internet crimes committed against children. This will allow Ohio ICAC to maintain and expand its impact on keeping children safe throughout Ohio.

Additionally, we obtained a $586,000 grant for ICAC. This is a continuing grant that supports our Ohio ICAC efforts. With this grant, we will hire another investigator to work at our undercover office in Northeast Ohio.
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Post by CritterFan1 Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:56 pm

thanks neo.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:58 pm

[quote="neoaflander"][quote="TerryRose"][quote="Wrapitup"]Since neoflander has not made it crystal clear, I will tell you that I emailed her and Nekuyo is her sister or daughter. As is Lessa. So, there are 3 here that are related to the accused.

Does that go for any others with any connections to the case, or just to me and my family?
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Post by TerryRose Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:58 pm

Thanks for the clarification there, neo. Now I got it: you are the mom and nekuyo and lessa are the accused's sisters.
Thanks also for the article about ICAC.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:15 pm

CritterFan1 wrote:thanks neo.

A Message From
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Fellow Voters:

Thank you for all your support. I am humbled and proud by the number of votes I received in the November 4, 2008 general election. Thanks to you, I was sworn in as a Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court Judge on January 5, 2009. I look forward to serving you over the next six years. Please continue to visit this website for updates.

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Cuyahoga County Ohio ICAC Contact:
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Perhaps you will correct me if I am wrong. This may be a very good thing. I was wondering if a judge who is supposed to be neutral should be a contact for this sort of proactive organization. Does he get paid for this service.
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Post by Lilone Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:23 pm

I really don't like discussing the politics of any case. I blog here because I am interested in the victims of crime, and I enjoy the debates that arise.

Further, I think there is a reason why people vote for their local politicians. If they felt that any particular politician was a crook, they most likely would not vote for them.

So, getting back to the victims of this particular crime, I would just like to say that I think anyone who can be linked to this crime should be brought up on charges. If they are guilty, they should be sentenced to maximum penalties. If they are innocent, I'm sure it will become apparent during the investigation or trial, and they will be exonerated.

While I am empathetic to any parent in her situation, perhaps a new thread concerning innocent people accused of crimes they did not commit would be more appropriate for the discussion of Neo's son?
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:37 pm

CritterFan1 wrote:thanks neo.

Good News-but not enough prison time.

Ohio ICAC Investigation Results in Leslie Borzon’s Sentencing of Four Years in Prison
03/09/2009

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
March 8, 2009

Ohio ICAC Investigation Results in Leslie Borzon's
Sentencing of Four Years in Prison

Borzon Pleaded Guilty to 69 Count Indictment

Borzon's Video of Sexually Abused Child
Was Created in Motel Room in Georgia

CLEVELAND - Cuyahoga County Prosecutor Bill Mason announced that Leslie Borzon was sentenced to four years in prison. Borzon was one of forty one defendants charged in Operation SafetyNet. The Ohio Internet Crimes Against Children (ICAC) Task Force, chaired by Prosecutor Mason, led this investigation.

On January 28, 2009, Leslie Borzon, 39, of Lakewood, pleaded guilty to the 69 count indictment. She was trading and downloading child pornography on the internet from April 22, 2008 to June 25, 2008. Borzon admitted to possessing 123 videos of child pornography, which included images of bondage, digital penetration, oral and vaginal penetration and sex with pre-pubescent girls between the ages of 5 and 10. The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children identified five known victims of sexual abuse.

One of these victims was identified in a video titled "Tara," which depicted a young girl being violently sexually abused. Federal official's investigation that began in Brisbane, Australia ended in Georgia. Investigations learned that the "Tara" video was created by James Bartholomew "Bart" Huskey who lived in LaFayette, Georgia. He admitted to sexually abusing the 9-year-old girl since she was 5-years-old and posting graphic images and videos of her being sexually abused on the internet that were widely viewed around the world. Huskey, 39, sexually abused the girl at a motel in Carrolton, Georgia and in his bedroom and cars. The images were extremely violent, with him wielding a large knife at the victim, pressing it against the victim's genitals and face; being anally raped with a very large sex toy and forced to perform oral sex and raped vaginally. Huskey was sentenced in federal court in Atlanta to 70 years in prison on Thursday, March 5, 2009.

Borozon pleaded guilty to the 69 count indictment: 67 counts of Pandering Sexually Oriented Matter Involving a Minor (F2), 1 count of Illegal Use of a Minor in Nudity Oriented Material (F2), and 1 count of Possessing Criminal Tools (F5). She was sentenced on Thursday, March 5, 2009.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:04 pm

this is so cool
it seems that there have been lots of arrests over time for this particular sting and lots of people have already pleaded and been sentenced. I did not find any of the accused 50 of the article. Maybe these were saved for last because of weak evidence or other reasons.
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It does give me hope that at least some of the more serious offenders have been busted and stopped
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:10 pm

the site
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does not give the names of those whose charges were dismissed or those who were found not guilty.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:54 pm

[quote="neoaflander"][quote="TerryRose"][quote="Wrapitup"]Since neoflander has not made it crystal clear, I will tell you that I emailed her and Nekuyo is her sister or daughter. As is Lessa. So, there are 3 here that are related to the accused.

Neoflander, as the mother of the accused, if more of your family or friends join, which they are more than welcome to do, please make sure they identify themselves as a family member or friend. They don't have to say how they are related.
Would you kindly answer the question? Does this rule apply to other posters with affiliations to icac, or anyone else with direct knowledge of the case or is it only for me and my family and friends?
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:52 pm

Is this thread dead? or have I been blocked?
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Post by CritterFan1 Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:06 pm

the thread is open. you have not been blocked. Did you have a hard time getting it to accept your message? Has been running slowly some lately.
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Post by TerryRose Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:12 pm

neoaflander wrote:Is this thread dead? or have I been blocked?

Obviously, neo, the thread is neither dead nor have you been blocked since I am reading your last 2 posts. Are you experiencing a temporary computer glitch that you think so on your end? That can happen from time to time and is infrequent. Thank you for the above posts, which are the type of posts we all like to read. I for one was not aware of those other busts that you have brought to this discussion. Thanks for the research and for posting those.
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Post by Lilone Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:15 pm

If the rest are like me, there is no more point to this discussion. But that's just my opinion.
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Post by Wrapitup Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:54 pm

OK, so here is the deal.

I've been gone all afternoon. Just now catching up on this thread. I will be pointblank honest. My main concern on this thread are the CHILDREN, not the accused or the DA or the county.

It has been inferred by neoaflander that some on VH are on this thread due to political gain reference this thread. I can tell you right now that is NOT the case, was NEVER the case and will NEVER BE the case.

While I am empathetic to what neoaflander and her family and friends are going through, as I and many members here have stated, I agree..there is no more to say here. Therefore, I am locking this thread.

We are a site about the missing, murdered and abused, neglected children FIRST.

That being said, I hope that swift Justice will be served on those found guilty and those that somehow got caught up in this mess found innocent.
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Post by TerryRose Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:34 pm

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Of interest in the article about his suicide is the letter he wrote and what he says about himself in it. It proves the point what a slippery slope that can be if one even allows it into one's life in the first place. He was facing 20 years for simply passing it around and possession of it and saved the taxpayers supporting him by ending it all now, but, because of his child porn habit he lost his family and freedom and ended it all because there was nothing left to his life including any value as a man.
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Post by Nama Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:06 pm

According to USA People Search there is a woman with the same address as his. She's 43 years old. His wife?
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Post by Wrapitup Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:11 pm

"O'Toole is not the same Sean O'Toole who coaches basketball at St. Ignatius High School. "

Last sentence in article.

His letter was very honest and sad. I especially loved what he said about he thought he was an honorable man.
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Post by Wrapitup Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:57 pm

I am opening this thread back up again (and please note the above posts reference the man that committed suicide in jail was just moved here) to let everyone know that I received an email from Neoflander saying that her son's attorney has forbidden her to discuss the case on any site. Neoflander said this is the only site she has been on so she feels we have a government mole here.

I explained to her that all anyone has to do is google this case and our site will come up. In fact, that is the way Neoaflander found our site. She had stated she is the mother of one of the accused and that her son lost his job of 15 years because of being accused in this case. IMHO, it doesn't take much, especially a lawyer, to figure out that this mother was blogging about her son who he is representing. The fact that he lost his job of 15 years gave it away.

Neoaflander inferred that the Government is looking at our site. Personally, if they are, good for them. We have nothing to hide.

Once again, we do NOT have a government mole on our site. Neoaflander should have known better than to come on any blog site and discuss this. I know I would not have. The internet is powerful. Neoaflander, with all due respect, you have no one but yourself to blame for coming on any internet site and discussing that your son was accused of this crime and lost his job of 15 years. Also, you have much nerve in accusing any of us at VH as being moles. We are not THAT important in the grand scheme of things. umno soap box


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Post by Guest Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:19 pm

I am glad you opened this important topic again. I know as founder you take a lot of heat many of us don't have to deal with.
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Post by Wrapitup Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:46 pm

You are giving me way too much credit, Linda Marie. :lol!:

I locked this topic because Noeaflander would not stop the accusations after many of our members, including you and I, tried our best to explain VH to her. It was becoming quite tedious and Lilone made the point of "what else is there to say" and I found myself completely agreeing with her sentiment's.

Since I was not online at all yesterday, I just saw the email from Neoaflander today. I unlocked the thread so that our members have a chance to respond to her ridiculous and overly tedious accusations and also, because she is forbidden from commenting. It really has nothing to do with me taking the heat. LOL. I've taken much worse than this. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right??

Anyway, if Neoaflander is in anyway offended by my unlocking this topic or me letting our members know of the accusatory email I received from her, I really don't care.

And once again, I wholeheartedly invite any Government employee or attorney to come take a look-see at our site. All we do is report the facts AS STATED BY THE MEDIA and give our personal take.

Let it be known by anyone reading this site. Victim's Heartland is primarily a site to honor the missing, murdered and abused children. Anything other than that is secondary. Come one, come all and read, join and post!! welcome2
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:06 pm

I think you said it all. She called us moles! I was holding my own with her just fine. :lol!:
Just because she can't comment on the case don't mean she can't post at all.
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:07 pm

[quote="Wrapitup"]You are giving me way too much credit, Linda Marie. :lol!:


Good grief! I am not accusing any member of this site of anything. Wrapitup friended me on facebook and asked me to keep her posted on developments. I am pretty sure that the DA's office looking in on this site and connecting me with my son is a significant development.

I have met some wonderful and admirable people here.

I dont know how I have so poorly communicated that anyone would feel accused.
It would have been nice if anyone who posted that had some connection to the case would have been required to identify the connection as my family and friends were required to do.

Wrapitup does a fantastic job and I have never said anything else.
I am supposing the DA's office is watching this site for any information that might be useful to them and are maybe afraid that I will generate public sympathy for the other victims in this crime or bad PR for them. I would guess they dont want their investigation methods publicized either.
Wrapitup runs this site. My comments to Wrapitup were in a private email to her, but I would have told anyone, anyway.
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:11 pm

[qouote="lindamarie"]I think you said it all. She called us moles! I was holding my own with her just fine. :lol!:
Just because she can't comment on the case don't mean she can't posall.[/quote]at

I never said that anyone here is a mole. I said there was a government mole. That person would not even have to sign to read the posts.
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:18 pm

BTW-does anyone know if any of the any of the children in this case have been found and rescued? I wondered if some of them might have been little ones overseas who have been kidnapped or sold into sex slavery. There was a special on tv about it some months back.
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Post by Wrapitup Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:19 pm

Neoaflander, I could have posted the email verbatim and didn't. Would you prefer that I do because you most certainly DID accuse a member or members of being a government mole.

I hope you respect what your son's attorney is telling you. If not, so be it. Even if you were coming here generating public sympathy for other "victim's" in this crime (note: The ONLY "victim's" are the poor children!!!!!!!!! or bad PR for them, so what?

Bottom line, from the get-go you have presumed that one of our members is a mole. I got tired of trying to explain it to you as did the other members so I locked the thread. My member's have a right to know that your son's attorney has asked you NOT to respond here ONLY because you feel the way his attorney found this site is because we have a "spy" or "mole" as you put it.

I have had enough of this. Thanks for the kudo's to me and all the blessings and I wish you well in your endeavor to get your son acquitted for the crime. I truly do.

But from now on, our discussion will be on this case in general and NOT your remarks. I think that is best for all, including your son's attorney, don't you??
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:21 pm

as you say.
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Post by Wrapitup Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:22 pm

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I never said that anyone here is a mole. I said there was a government mole. That person would not even have to sign to read the posts.
I flunked MindReading 101.
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:27 pm

anyway, not my sons lawyer, but the DA's office. Just my opinion but I would suppose that members might have a right to know who is watching them as I was being watched.
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Post by Wrapitup Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:32 pm

Trust me when I tell you that all one has to do is google many of these crimes and we are right up there. I am certain our site is read by DA's, attorney's, etc. It goes with the territory.

Many of us here have been in the crime blogging world for many years. It is of no consequence who looks at our site. We have nothing to hide. Thus, we did not need a warning but thanks anyway.
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:37 pm

Wrapitup wrote:Trust me when I tell you that all one has to do is google many of these crimes and we are right up there. I am certain our site is read by DA's, attorney's, etc. It goes with the territory.

Many of us here have been in the crime blogging world for many years. It is of no consequence who looks at our site. We have nothing to hide. Thus, we did not need a warning but thanks anyway.

I dont have anything to hide either. Except 15 lbs and am not doing very well at that.
I wish this case were over, the guilty locked up and the victims rescued. I expect our agony over this will continue for at least a couple of years.
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:47 pm

[quote="Wrapitup"]You are giving me way too much credit, Linda Marie. :lol!:


'All we do is report the facts AS STATED BY THE MEDIA and give our personal take."

I cannot help it if my personal take included insider information.
I would like to reiterate my query. Does have any information about the children?
Were any of them rescued? Were they overseas? Is there any way to help?
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Post by Wrapitup Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:53 pm

What is your insider information? That the DA or your son's attorney asked you to stop posting on VH or any site? That is not insider information. That is a request to you from them.

No, I know nothing more on this case. I am sure if we did, I would have gotten a PM to unlock the thread.

Members, if any of you know anything more on this case, can you please post it? Thanks!!
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:58 pm

Wrapitup wrote:What is your insider information? That the DA or your son's attorney asked you to stop posting on VH or any site? That is not insider information. That is a request to you from them.

No, I know nothing more on this case. I am sure if we did, I would have gotten a PM to unlock the thread.

Members, if any of you know anything more on this case, can you please post it? Thanks!!

My insider info was about my son. I know him pretty well.
What is a PM?
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Post by Wrapitup Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:03 pm

PM = Private Message. At the top of the thread.

Yes, OK..your insider information was that your son was arrested or summoned or accused of kiddee porn. I suppose you could call that inside information. I would call it an admission. Inside information is something you know about a case that no one else knows. But whatever you want to call it is fine with me.

Just a word of advice, I would definitely take heed to what the DA and your son's attorney is saying and NOT blog on this particular thread. It may hinder his case. I say MAY. If that were my son, there is absolutely no way I would go on the internet to discuss this, but that is just me.

And, p.s. I am sure you DO know your son pretty well. That being said, it is really amazing what we think we know and what is the real truth sometimes. Just saying. If he is innocent, he will be cleared.
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:07 pm

Then please let us drop it. and not fight for the last word of which I have many. Did anyone get any info on any
of the victims. whether they are rescued, whether they are overseas and whether there is any help we can give?
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Post by Wrapitup Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:34 pm

I have already asked the members if they know anything. If they do, they will post here.

Please let us drop it? Many of us here have tried to drop it dozens of times. I think I can speak for all when I say that we are very happy you want this dropped and to simply focus on the poor innocent children in this case. Thanks.
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:40 pm

blatt!! I guess as the admin you are entitled to last word.
So what about the children? Did anyot te get any info about these or any other children victimized in cybercreated porn?
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Post by charminglane Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:21 pm

Lock it, Wrap.
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:44 pm

Victims that are children should not be named. Jeeze they were already victimized enough.
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Post by TerryRose Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:37 pm

NO! Do not lock this thread again, Wrap! There is no place then to place new word as it arrives regarding the victims of these crimes and there is no place to find out more about other cases from other areas of the country that are linked to this same sting.

I myself had to start a new thread which was buried in the blogs for very few that would ever notice. It was the article about one of the accused who committed suicide in his jail cell and wrote a very poignant letter stating how this obsession of his had ruined his entire life. It should have been posted where it belonged, on this thread, but this thread was locked.

How about if Neoaflander just avoids this thread, but keep it open for news of all the cases that are out there? We might even change the title to include the cases that are nationwide. There were, I believe, over 800 such arrests nationwide. Some of the abuse of children appears to have been local with the 50, but what of the rest? Keeping the topic open and discussed might lead to finding out if the children have been tracked down and rescued.

After all, don't the rest of us here at VH have the right to free speech? Why should we be censored because of the activities of one who is new to the site? Is this what she set out to do in the first place?----To censor us? If so, she got her way. The burden should be put on that one to not post on this thread and thus comply with the request of her son's attorney. She was the only one directly talking about her son, not us---we don't even know who he is. We have news articles identifying those who got arrested and these were all over the TV and the newspapers and are a matter of public record.

Keep the thread open, and, instead of censoring all of us, if anyone comes on it accusing us of being moles or whatever, or cannot restrain themselves from jeopardizing their own son's case by posting, then delete those particular posts that the one person has made, but leave the general discussion of 50 arrests for this horrendous crime against children open and/or expand it to include the 800 plus arrests made nationwide this past year and any made in the future. This open thread belongs here at VH because the victims are tortured, abused, and raped babies and children----it should not be censored because one person wants to suppress the news.
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Post by Wrapitup Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:45 pm

neoaflander wrote:blatt!! I guess as the admin you are entitled to last word.
So what about the children? Did anyot te get any info about these or any other children victimized in cybercreated porn?
Blatt?? Me being the Owner and Founder of this site is none of your business to what I am entitled to. You don't talk to me like that. Period. I have asked twice if any of us know any more information on this case. I will not lock the thread but will ban Neoaflander since she cannot seem to stay off this particular thread even though her son's attorney and the DA forbid her to be here.

Therefore, Neoaflander, this is your warning. You are more than welcome to post on any site except this one. Do not start a new site on this topic and do not post here. You are free to post anywhere else that you chose. You have the higher ups telling you not to post on this thread so don't do it, or I will ban you. Is that clear??

I will make it easy for everyone.

Terry Rose, I had no clue that the guy that committed suicide was part of this 50. And you are correct. We should be able to speak our peace.

Linda Marie, if the man that killed himself in jail is one of these 50, can you please merge the posts here? Thanks!!


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Post by TerryRose Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:49 pm

Thank you, Wrap!----You have made the right decision. It will be better for all concerned. :thanks:
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Post by Wrapitup Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:53 pm

Not a problem. This has gone on far too long!!!
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