Tammi Smith and Elizabeth Johnson scheduled to go to trial Aug 9 to face criminal charges in the case of the missing Gabriel Johnson/ / Johnson said she killed her son Gabriel/ Audio of Elizabeth's call to Logan just released 12/14/10

AUGH TerryRose, I wondered if anyone would get my off the wall connection with "10" and you did... you did!!! :cheers:

It's my responsibility to inform you that you may be as warped as me.
sorry about your LUCK!

NiteSpinR wrote:AUGH TerryRose, I wondered if anyone would get my off the wall connection with "10" and you did... you did!!! :cheers:

It's my responsibility to inform you that you may be as warped as me.
sorry about your LUCK!

Yep, I think we may be of the same mold, nite! People seldom get my jokes too!

Hey Nite I beg your pardon....I got that too and first!
:lol!:

They must have broke the mold after you three. I don't get it. lol

I am to the point that I think Gabriel will never be found. I don't know what I believe anymore. Did she kill him? I just don't think so. I don't think she has the capacity to be a cold blooded killer like Casey. But of course, who really knows in our society anymore??

Wrapitup wrote:I am to the point that I think Gabriel will never be found. I don't know what I believe anymore. Did she kill him? I just don't think so. I don't think she has the capacity to be a cold blooded killer like Casey. But of course, who really knows in our society anymore??

I have a new thought about something: If EJ hired a sitter for less than 2 hours on that one day, and if she was at a laundromat without Gabriel or without him in the car when she went there, then we might assume she had other babysitters that did not opt to make a few quick bucks going on Nancy Grace show. To think otherwise would be then to believe that the babysitter on NG was hired only for a ploy of some kind. Either she was a negligent mom or she wasn't, meaning she was willing to leave her baby alone or not, no two ways about it. Therefore, who was he with when she was trying to meet somebody at the laundromat? Possible adoptive parents who took him for a day to see if they wanted to adopt him? Or are there other babysitters who want to keep themselves out of this mess? :scratch:

When Tammi Smith and Elizabeth Johnson met for the first time in August at Boston’s Logan International Airport, Johnson no longer wanted to be a mother.

And Smith badly wanted to be a mother again.

That first meeting — as Smith approached the young mother while she was crying with her infant son, Gabriel — was the start of a relationship that has placed the pair at the center of a national search and criminal cases involving the missing child, who was last seen Dec. 26 at a San Antonio motel that authorities have said is a “purported” meeting place for underground adoptions.

Timeline of events

Smith, 37, of Scottsdale, and Johnson, 23, of Tempe, have troubled pasts, similar dysfunctional histories in their relationships and criminal records, according to police reports and court documents.

They are scheduled to appear for separate hearings in Maricopa County Superior Court on Tuesday , both on felony charges in connection with the missing child that Johnson initially said she killed but later claimed hat she had given to an unknown couple in the parking lot of a motel, according to Maricopa County Superior Court documents.

Johnson’s attorney, Vanessa Smith, who works for the Maricopa County Public Defender’s Office, has filed a motion with the court to ban any media coverage of the court proceedings, arguing that it would infringe on Johnson’s right to a fair trial and jeopardize her safety.

Repeated requests for interviews with Smith and her lawyer in recent weeks were declined. Requests for jailhouse interviews with Johnson also were denied.

For eight weeks, the Tribune has combed through police reports and court records from numerous jurisdictions across the country and conducted interviews with more than a dozen people related to the case and the pair’s pasts.

Together, the documents and interviews reveal the story of a troubled young mother eager to be free from her baby and a woman desperate for a second chance at motherhood.

Troubled pasts

Smith once worked as an exotic dancer in New Orleans, aspired to be a country music singer pursuing fortune and fame in Nashville, Tenn., and at one time was married to two men at the same time, according to police reports and court records.

In 2001, she paid to give her three children up for adoption to her ex-husband and his wife after a costly 2½-year custody battle, according to Smith and the second of her five husbands, Kieth Facio. More recently, Smith tried to adopt children from China and Africa, according to her MySpace page, which has since been blocked from public view and Facio.

“She’s trying to fill a gap,” said Facio, who lives with their three teenage children near New Orleans. “Tammi knows she screwed up with her own children and is trying to make up for it. She’s tried to adopt other children for several years, but it always falls through for some reason and she can’t. It’s likely because of her past.”

Johnson, meanwhile, grew up with her twin brother in five different foster homes before the age of 10 due to her drug-addicted mother drowning when Elizabeth was about 12 and her father dying of liver cancer in 2007, according to Johnson’s grandfather, Robert Johnson of Scottsdale.

Elizabeth Johnson graduated from a college preparatory high school in Boston with a 4.0 grade-point average and earned a full-ride scholarship to Southeastern University in New Hampshire — a $160,000 value — but walked away from it after two weeks because she didn’t like her roommate, her grandfather said.

Robert Johnson said his granddaughter has always been “secretive,” and when she was a teenager, she flew from Boston — where she was living with her grandmother — to California to sell her reproductive eggs for cash to someone she contacted on the Internet.

He does not believe his granddaughter killed her own baby, and he can’t understand why she won’t tell him where her baby is or help the authorities find Gabriel.

“She wanted to be a doctor or a lawyer,” Robert Johnson said. “She had the smarts. Now, her life is a hell of a mess. I’ve tried to tell her to cooperate with authorities and tell them what she did with Gabriel so she could get on with her life.”

A mother’s rage

In the last year alone, Johnson’s relationship with Gabriel’s father, Logan McQueary, was marked by her outbursts of rage as she destroyed three apartments by tearing up clothes and a couch with a large knife before demolishing a baby bed, smashing a television set and breaking windows, according to Tempe police reports.

When Gabriel would cry, McQueary said that Johnson would shout at him: “Shut that damn baby up!” according to a police report.

On Dec. 9, Johnson was arrested on suspicion of providing false information to law enforcement. She lied to authorities about where Gabriel was after she told Tempe police that McQueary kidnapped the baby.

Instead, Gabriel was at Smith’s residence, where police permitted the baby to stay after the Smiths showed officers a document in which Johnson had signed over temporary guardianship of the boy to the couple.

However, McQueary said he never supported giving up Gabriel for adoption, and the Smiths gave Gabriel back to Johnson on Dec. 18, the day Johnson left for San Antonio in the midst of a custody battle, according to court documents.

During another incident, police had to restrain Johnson in the back of the cruiser as she was slamming her head into windows of the vehicle, according to the police report. Authorities believed Elizabeth had a mental disorder, according to reports. But she was never diagnosed with anything and never received professional care, according to her grandfather.

Of the three apartments and the contents within them Johnson destroyed, one item that survived was a picture of her and her twin brother with their mother as young children, according to Johnson’s grandfather.

“You can’t measure the love between a mother and a child,” Robert Johnson said. “Although Elizabeth’s mother was a drug addict and had other problems, there was still that love between a mother and her child, and Elizabeth loved her mother.”

'Gut feeling’ Gabriel is alive

Since the beginning of the year, the story of “Baby Gabriel” has been in the national media spotlight as McQueary, of Gilbert, remains steadfast in finding his son. For reasons yet to be told, Johnson took Gabriel to San Antonio in late December in the midst of the custody battle.

On Dec. 27, Johnson told McQueary via text message that she killed Gabriel and, in a phone call later that day, told McQueary she stuffed Gabriel’s body in a diaper bag and threw him in a dumpster. But at the time of her arrest three days later at a hostel in Miami Beach, Fla., she told an FBI agent that she gave the boy away.

McQueary’s quest to find his son also includes the pro bono help of renowned private investigator Jay J. Armes, who said his “gut feeling” is that Gabriel is alive and the victim of an underground adoption that possibly has whisked the baby south of the border into Mexico.

The child has blond hair and blue eyes and would have turned 10 months old on March 3.

San Antonio police are conducting a missing persons case parallel to a homicide investigation, not knowing whether the child is alive or dead. More than 30 people currently are searching a section of a landfill to see if they can find anything in connection with the case. Witnesses at the motel also told authorities that they saw Johnson with a Hispanic male and that they appeared to be a couple. However, authorities have been unable to locate him, according to police.

In the ongoing investigation, authorities have compiled 1,575 pages of discovery and 52 CDs of recorded interviews, according to Maricopa County Superior Court documents. As the story of “Baby Gabriel” has played out on national television shows, the Web search engine “Google News” shows more than 1 million hits, mostly originating from media outlets throughout the Valley, according to Maricopa County Superior Court records. On the social networking site Facebook, five pages dedicated to the search for Gabriel have at least 14,000 members.

Smith is facing charges of forgery and conspiracy to commit custodial interference and is free on $15,000 bond. Smith and her husband, Jack, who were interested in adopting Gabriel, were named by Tempe police as persons of interest in the case because authorities believed the Smiths withheld information that could have led to the whereabouts of the boy.

Johnson has been charged with kidnapping, child abuse, custodial interference and conspiracy to commit custodial interference. She is being held in a Maricopa County jail on a $1.1 million cash bond.

The Smiths have maintained their innocence and have been adamant that all they tried to do was talk Johnson into returning to Arizona with the baby. They have never been suspects in the baby’s disappearance.

Desperation and deception

Investigators said it was Tammi Smith’s “desperate attempts” to adopt the child that hindered the investigation. Police allege that the Smiths had a plan in place to adopt Gabriel or were developing a plan to somehow pick up the child in Nashville, Tenn., and her contradictory statements to police and to the media led to her arrest. Jack Smith, a former pedal steel guitarist in the Grand Ole Opry’s House Band in Nashville and a former studio musician for country music singer “Whisperin’ Bill” Anderson, was cleared in the case.

Smith’s attempts to acquire custody of the boy included trying to persuade a Maricopa County Family Court judge into letting her adopt Gabriel as she told the judge during a recorded phone message that she believed Johnson would bring the child back to Arizona if she knew he would be “safe.”

Smith also researched the possibility of changing the jurisdiction of Johnson’s custody hearing and the possibility of adopting both a child and an adult so she could adopt Johnson and Gabriel in order to have custody of her child, according to court documents.

Smith also wrote the name of her first cousin, an ex-convict named Craig Cherry, as being a potential father to Gabriel on a paternity-test petition before she drove Johnson to the courthouse, according to court documents, which lead to the forgery charge against her.

In late 1996, Smith was arrested in another forgery case — for stealing checks from Facio and signing his name to them, according to St. Bernard Parish District Court documents in Louisiana. Smith was not authorized because her spending habits had put the family in financial straits before, according to a police report. The charges against Smith were later reduced to attempted theft, misdemeanors, and she was ordered to repay Facio $1,149 in restitution, according to court records.

“Hey, the money was mine, too,” Smith said in a brief telephone interview with the Tribune.

She claimed that the fourth man she married — Michael Edwyne Riddle — forced her into marrying him at the Davidson County Courthouse in Nashville on Nov. 30, 1998, according to court records. Smith said Riddle beat her so badly that she knew she was at the courthouse but didn’t realize she was getting married, the documents state. When Smith married Riddle, she became married to two men at the same time — Mikel Sikora of Phoenix was the other, according to court records.

When Sikora was contacted by the Tribune, he replied, “I think I’ll stay out of this one.”

Smith, who said she could not track down Riddle, had the marriage annulled in Maricopa County Superior Court in 2001, according to court records.

When Smith was asked by the Tribune about Riddle or if she has been in contact with him, she said, “Who’s Mike Riddle? And why would I want to contact him?”

During 2006 and 2007, Smith operated a colon-cleansing business in Nashville for 15 months without a license before the Tennessee Board of Medical Examiners ordered her to close and fined her, according to a document from the Tennessee Board of Medical Examiners.

Neglect and silence

Smith’s oldest daughter, Gabriele Victoria Facio, 19, recently wrote in a Facebook message to a Tribune reporter that she only considers Tammi her biological mother and not her “real mother.”

“She neglected us,” Gabriele Facio said. “She took us, sorta kidnapped us, right before I turned 6. After that, my dad had enough and divorced her. She wanted money and fame. She didn’t like working or taking care of children. It was never her thing. She wanted to make an album, be a country singer. That’s when she met Jack and left her guy.

“In the end, it was us or him. She chose him.”

Gabriele also said she helped raised her siblings.

“I remember being mom,” she said. “I helped my dad raise my brother and sister. I cared for them even when Tammi was around. She neglected us, didn’t always feed us, didn’t always change diapers. She spanked us for crying or doing something little. We were children.”

Although Smith does not express any regrets for giving up the rights to her children, she said, “I love my children very much and I always will.”

Robert Johnson isn’t sure if his granddaughter feels the same way about her child. He said he never heard Elizabeth express “any particular joy” in having Gabriel, and he said he never heard her say that she loved him.

Nearly three months after she fled Arizona with Gabriel, Elizabeth Johnson still refuses to reveal his whereabouts.

The longer the case continues without Johnson revealing where Gabriel is, concern increases that the case will have a “tragic outcome,” according to Dr. Erin Nelson, a forensic psychologist who has worked for Steven Pitt and Associates in Scottsdale on national cases such as the Columbine school shootings in Colorado, the rape allegations against Kobe Bryant and the Baseline Rapist case in Phoenix.

“It’s not an accident she’s keeping her mouth shut. Denial is a powerful psychological defense mechanism,” Nelson said. “But there can be a number of factors that can ultimately compel someone to cooperate.”

A “significant person,” Nelson said, might be able to get Elizabeth Johnson to talk. Or, she added, an attorney telling the young mother what she’s facing might prompt her to cooperate.

Johnson’s attorneys are urging her to remain quiet as part of their legal strategy. But her grandfather wants her to come clean — now.

“Tell them where the baby is and get on with it,” Robert Johnson said. “If the baby is alive and well, she’ll be able to get out of jail, but she seems content with staying there.

“I just don’t understand. I still don’t understand why she won’t say where that baby is.”

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/151556

Very interesting background of Tammi Smith!

Thanks BJ that was interesting reading.

Those 2 pictures side-by-side----is it just me or do they look like they could be related to one another genetically?

by BJ in OR Today at 2:01 pm
"Johnson, meanwhile, grew up with her twin brother in five different foster homes before the age of 10 due to her drug-addicted mother drowning when Elizabeth was about 12 and her father dying of liver cancer in 2007, according to Johnso
according to Dr. Erin Nelson, a forensic psychologist who has worked for Steven Pitt and Associates in Scottsdale on national cases such as the Columbine school shootings in Colorado, the rape allegations against Kobe Bryant and the Baseline Rapist case in Phoenix.

“It’s not an accident she’s keeping her mouth shut. Denial is a powerful psychological defense mechanism,” Nelson said. “But there can be a number of factors that can ultimately compel someone to cooperate.”

A “significant person,” Nelson said, might be able to get Elizabeth Johnson to talk. Or, she added, an attorney telling the young mother what she’s facing might prompt her to cooperate.
n’s grandfather, Robert Johnson of Scottsdale.

Does anyone know if EJ's twin brother has visited her? I haven't read where he is or if he's in her life but with twins sharing so much in their lives whether they are together or apart, maybe he is just the one who can get her to talk? Just an idea....

TerryRose wrote:Those 2 pictures side-by-side----is it just me or do they look like they could be related to one another genetically?

I do not see it at this point in Tammi's life, maybe in an older photo when she was younger, it might jump out at me then. :scratch:

TerryRose wrote:Those 2 pictures side-by-side----is it just me or do they look like they could be related to one another genetically?

I thought the same thing, maybe Tammi saw herself in Elizabeth's face and that is one thing that drew her to her.

TerryRose wrote:I have a new thought about something: If EJ hired a sitter for less than 2 hours on that one day, and if she was at a laundromat without Gabriel or without him in the car when she went there, then we might assume she had other babysitters that did not opt to make a few quick bucks going on Nancy Grace show. To think otherwise would be then to believe that the babysitter on NG was hired only for a ploy of some kind. Either she was a negligent mom or she wasn't, meaning she was willing to leave her baby alone or not, no two ways about it. Therefore, who was he with when she was trying to meet somebody at the laundromat? Possible adoptive parents who took him for a day to see if they wanted to adopt him? Or are there other babysitters who want to keep themselves out of this mess? :scratch:

Terry Rose, great question, but I doubt there were any other "sitters". What I Would bet on is EJ jacking Gabriel up on Tylenol and slipping out while he is asleep. That is probably one reason (if this laundromat guy is being truthful :scratch: ) why she seemed so nervous. She was worried he would wake up, possibly fall off the bed or start crying and someone would tell the front desk that a baby is crying. This is just speculation. And really, from what has been released to the public..at this point, this is all we have.

Except...didn't the father say that she would leave the baby alone sometimes?

cherylz wrote:Except...didn't the father say that she would leave the baby alone sometimes?

I can't find it at the moment, but I think the father was referring to her being alone at the laundromat in Texas on those 3 or 4 occasions, not previously. Anybody know if I am right or wrong on this?

I don't think we can count on the laudromat guy's statement. Maybe he did see her, maybe it was another blonde girl, maybe he just wants his 15 min, IDK. I do know this is a perfect example of why circumstantial evidence is better than eye witness accounts.

San Antonio Sheriff Vows "Fervent" Pursuit of Baby Gabriel Johnson Case to the End

Published March 06, 2010 by:
Saul Relative

Although it has been about a month since investigators began sifting through a section of the Tessman Road landfill in San Antonio with no indication that they are anywhere near finding
Baby Gabriel Johnson, it has not deterred their determination. San Antonio Police Chief William McManus told KENS 5, the local CBS affiliate in San Antonio, that every available resource was being implemented in the search for missing Baby Gabriel, the 8-month-old Arizona child that is believed to have disappeared in San Antonio the day after Christmas.

He said, "We are pushing forward with this case as fervently as when we started. We have not pulled back one bit."

Investigators have been going through tons of trash for nearly a month now. However, according to police, they still have about 3000 tons left to sift out of a total of over 4000 tons. McManus maintains that the case will be pursued to its conclusion, which means that they will keep sifting garbage until there's nothing left to examine, even though he is hoping to find the missing child still alive.

"Some people say the longer you are in law enforcement, the more callous you become," he said, "and the less these cases affect you, I'm here to tell you I've been in this business for 35 years and the more I'm in it, the more it affects me."

Baby Gabriel Johnson was last seen with his mother at a hotel room in San Antonio, hence the specific search area in a San Antonio landfill. Elizabeth Johnson, the child's mother, texted Logan McQueary from San Antonio to inform him that she had killed the child and as soon as she was safe in Mexico, she would let him know where he could find Baby Gabriel's body.

Elizabeth Johnson was arrested a couple days later in Florida on a custodial interference charge and recanted her text admission, telling authorities that she had only told McQueary she killed the baby to hurt him. She said she had actually given the child away to a couple of strangers in a San Antonio park.

San Antonio Police have been actively investigating both possibilities.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2766954/san_antonio_sheriff_vows_fervent_pursuit.html?cat=8

So, they have only sifted 1000 tons and it's over two months now??

Thanks for the update, Wrap! I was just going to ask if anyone had heard about any progress in the landfill search... sounds like it is going slowly. Well, they must be doing a methodical search, which is good. I just wish it would go a bit quicker!

Private Investigator Believes Baby Gabriel is Alive
Video Interview

http://www.kpho.com/video/22782404/index.html

Posted on March 9, 2010 at 11:45 AM
http://www.kens5.com/news/national/Baby-Gabriels-mother-back-in-court-to-face-charges-about-childs-disappearance-87121907.html

PHOENIX - A Tempe mother is back in court this morning to face charges stemming from the disappearance of her baby.

Police, along with the FBI, believe Elizabeth Johnson was the last person to see her son, 10-month-old Gabriel Johnson.

Elizabeth Johnson is facing a judge this morning for a pre-trial conference on a long list of charges related to baby Gabriel's disappearance.

It's been more than two months since Gabriel Johnson has been seen and while the search continues for the toddler, the court proceeding against his mother will move forward.

Johnson is being charged with kidnapping, child abuse and custodial interference.

She has entered a not guilty plea.

This all stems from the disappearance of her son back in December.

At one point she told the baby's father she killed their son and then turned around and told investigators she gave the little boy away to complete strangers in a San Antonio park.

Johnson is expected to physically be in court this morning, but reports have indicated she is refusing to leave her cell

Elizabeth Johnson, the mother of missing baby Gabriel, refused to leave her jail cell for a court hearing Tuesday morning, prompting a Superior Court judge to demand authorities "use any means necessary to get her to court."

Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Timothy Ryan continued the pre-trial conference hearing to March 17, saying that Elizabeth Johnson needed to be present and called on Maricopa County Sheriff's Office deputies to ensure Johnson makes the appearance, said Karen Arra, a court spokeswoman.

Johnson's defense attorney refused to comment on the case.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/03/09/20100309elizabeth-johnson-misses-court-abrk0209.html

I wonder what her problem is about leaving her cell? I don't understand what is going on with her.

TerryRose wrote:I wonder what her problem is about leaving her cell? I don't understand what is going on with her.

IMO - trying to control the situation. "I'm not talking so why show up?" attitude. Honestly, with all the discord between the Maricopa County Sheriff's office and the AZ Superior Court right now, I wouldn't be surprised if this is just another symptom of the issues between these two agencies at least as much as it is an issue with EJ.

LMAO.. this reminds me ALL too much of Casey's first Jail apperance where she was forced to show up in her jump suit and shackles.. :lol!:

mommyof3kids wrote:LMAO.. this reminds me ALL too much of Casey's first Jail apperance where she was forced to show up in her jump suit and shackles.. :lol!:

They still think about style and looks and their own vanity, don't they?

Well did they get her to appear or not?

artgal16 wrote:Well did they get her to appear or not?

Nope. I don't think the prior articles were completely correct. The judge indicated that she must be at the rescheduled hearing by whatever means, including force. This was complete manipulation and I suspect the attorney is pleased by this. IMO, she should have been held in contempt of court for refusing to appear. Can she be charged with failure to appear?

http://www.kpho.com/video/22787931/

Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Timothy Ryan continued the pre-trial conference hearing to March 17.

She'll be back in court a week from tomorrow (Wednesday).

Who knows, maybe she got sick?

I agree, it seems like Contempt of Court to me, also. Guess she did not want to leave her cell because she has a zit. It is all about looking good now that she is famous, I mean...infamous!!!!

'Rift' In Team Searching For Baby Gabriel
Gabriel's Father Is Distancing Himself From Famed Private Investigator
Pat McReynolds
Reporter, KPHO.com

POSTED: 9:09 pm MST March 9, 2010
UPDATED: 6:38 am MST March 10, 2010

PHOENIX -- There seems to be a rift in the camp searching for baby Gabriel.

The attorney for Gabriel's father, Logan McQueary, sent a statement Tuesday night, distancing Gabriel's family from private investigator Jay J. Armes. Armes arrived in Phoenix last Monday night to attend Elizabeth Johnson's court hearing Tuesday morning, but Johnson refused to leave her jail cell and fired her public defender.

Now, McQueary's attorney Tim Maloney has released a statement that said, "Please be advised that Mr. Jay J. Armes is not authorized to speak on behalf of Mr. Logan McQueary. Mr. Armes has refused to return my client's property and continues to interfere with an ongoing police investigation."

Maloney went on to write that the McQuearys appreciate the work Armes has done, but request he turn over any other information or evidence to the San Antonio Police Department.

http://www.kpho.com/news/22793056/detail.html?treets=pho&tid=26511763111813&tml=pho_4pm&tmi=pho_4pm_1_05000503102010&ts=H

I understand where McQueary is coming from, but at the same time, if this PI begins to give information to LE, then he's going to be less likely to gain any further information. Benefit of a PI over LE: More likely to talk to someone that isn't going to charge them with something or possibly arrest them.

It seems to me that if one wants to find his child badly enough and has little money to spend, any professional who comes along to help in that pursuit would be welcome and one would put up with petty little disagreements for the sake of finding the child. I don't understand people sometimes.

If the whole private investigator thing doesn't pan out for Jay J. Armes, he'd make a great James Bond villain

​Jay J. Armes, the ironically armless private investigator who offered his "world-renowned" services to Logan McQueary, the father of missing baby Gabriel Johnson, seems to be getting shoved off the investigation by McQueary's lawyer -- if he was ever an actual part of the investigation to begin with.

Last night, New Times received a fax from McQueary's lawyer, Tim Maloney, saying Armes was not authorized to speak on McQueary's behalf and that it is time for him to "allow authorities to continue their work."

From the time Armes announced he was "lending" his services to McQueary, the whole thing seemed a little odd -- it seemed more like the motives of someone interested in headlines than finding the baby.

Armes, a former wanna-be actor, had no apparent business in the case other than it's an
​unsolved crime that's receiving a lot of media coverage. What better way for an aging private investigator, with an apparently large ego (the guy has his own action figures, as you can see in the image to the right) to get a little ink, right?

According to McQueary's attorney, Armes seems to be more of nuisance than a world-class investigator.

"Mr. Armes has refused to return my clients property and continues to interfere with an ongoing police investigation," Maloney says.

While McQueary appreciates whatever help Armes has given him, Maloney says, he asks that Armes take any further information to the San Antonio Police Department.

Over the last 22 days, Armes claims he has received over 186,000 tips about the baby's whereabouts, which has led his team of "investigators" to Mexico, only to find themselves the targets of an extortion attempt.

To receive 186,000 tips, Armes would have had to get 352 tips an hour -- every hour -- for 22 straight days. Call us crazy, but that just doesn't seem possible.

We called Armes to get his side of the story, but for the second time in as many days, he has declined our request.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2010/03/jay_j_armes_investigator_volun.php

I think Elizabeth Johnson is really trying to be another Casey Anthony. I may have said this on another thread but I believe their are young girls out there with a baby that literally look up to Casey as a role model. It makes me sick but I think it's the truth.

As far as this Armes character, he makes Leonard Padilla and Cobra look like angels. The guys IMO, is FOS!!!

BJ in OR wrote: If the whole private investigator thing doesn't pan out for Jay J. Armes, he'd make a great James Bond villain

​Jay J. Armes, the ironically armless private investigator who offered his "world-renowned" services to Logan McQueary, the father of missing baby Gabriel Johnson, seems to be getting shoved off the investigation by McQueary's lawyer -- if he was ever an actual part of the investigation to begin with.

Last night, New Times received a fax from McQueary's lawyer, Tim Maloney, saying Armes was not authorized to speak on McQueary's behalf and that it is time for him to "allow authorities to continue their work."

From the time Armes announced he was "lending" his services to McQueary, the whole thing seemed a little odd -- it seemed more like the motives of someone interested in headlines than finding the baby.

Armes, a former wanna-be actor, had no apparent business in the case other than it's an
​unsolved crime that's receiving a lot of media coverage. What better way for an aging private investigator, with an apparently large ego (the guy has his own action figures, as you can see in the image to the right) to get a little ink, right?

According to McQueary's attorney, Armes seems to be more of nuisance than a world-class investigator.

"Mr. Armes has refused to return my clients property and continues to interfere with an ongoing police investigation," Maloney says.

While McQueary appreciates whatever help Armes has given him, Maloney says, he asks that Armes take any further information to the San Antonio Police Department.

Over the last 22 days, Armes claims he has received over 186,000 tips about the baby's whereabouts, which has led his team of "investigators" to Mexico, only to find themselves the targets of an extortion attempt.

To receive 186,000 tips, Armes would have had to get 352 tips an hour -- every hour -- for 22 straight days. Call us crazy, but that just doesn't seem possible.

We called Armes to get his side of the story, but for the second time in as many days, he has declined our request.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2010/03/jay_j_armes_investigator_volun.php

I hope that I don't offend anyone, but... that article is HILARIOUS!!
I am all for equal opportunities for disable people, but an action figure? That is just too much!! It really does sound as though Mr. Armes is desperate for the spotlight. I think you are right BJ, he would make a great James Bond villain! :lol!:

Landfill search for Baby Gabriel ends
Police confirmed that the landfill search for Baby Gabriel has been completed. No evidence was found. The baby's father, Logan McQuary, remains hopeful. His attorney said the results of the search were not unexpected. More details upcoming.

McQuary still in San Antonio

San Antonio Police Department will be holding press confrence this afternoon and will have more details.

CNN HLN is waiting for a news conference to start and will have it live.

Live news conference will be coming on any minute from San Antonio to discuss the latest on Baby Gabriel!!

Jinx, you owe me a coke, Wrap! :lol!:

HA! Beat ya'll both!!!

BJ in OR wrote:Jinx, you owe me a coke, Wrap! :lol!:

:worshipper:

I am at work and can't have it on, so can you ladies keep us working peeps updated ;)

So they are done searching the land fill and still no sign of baby Gabriel, but they won't say whether or not they still think he is dead or alive :scratch:

Landfill was searched and NO evidence of a homicide was found. Case remains active. Thanks are given to those that helped. Case leaves them with a bitter sweet conclusion. No evidence of homicide, but NO live Gabriel has been found either.

So, really nothing new. Just like I thought. For a split second when the COP said, "Are you ready"? - I thought.."oh, no."

Second verse same as the first.

I think they should torture the Biznotch until she confesses and leads them to the baby!!

Mommy, I don't think she knows. She surrendered the baby to an adoption network and probably does not know his whereabouts since. I would imagine that the parties agree upon not knowing, wouldn't you?