Re: Thread #1 - Kyron Horman: Missing for 9 Months/ Desiree believes Kyron is dead/ Supporters put pressure on Terri

[lisette]

jeanne, it appears from what Kaine said here that Kiara is not missing her mom...

Kiara has been away from her mom Terri Horman for about a month, he said, and does not ask about her.

"She's a new kid," he said. "She's a whole new kid now."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/day_of_kyron_hormans_disappear.html

I listened to this interview...Kaine also said that it was not true that James left because they didn't get along, other than any teen/adult conflict...He said that they actually got along better than James and Terri, that he had to mediate between them often, that Terri had trouble handling the teen/adult challenge...

[lisette]

WW report: Kaine wishes plot against him had succeeded

Story Published: Jul 29, 2010 at 6:21 PM PDT Story Updated: Jul 29, 2010 at 6:21 PM PDT

PORTLAND, Ore. - Kaine Horman, the father of missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman, said he wishes his estranged wife’s alleged murder-for-hire plot to kill him had happened, he told the Willamette Week newspaper.

Although Terri Moulton Horman has not been named a suspect by police in the disappearance of Kyron, both Kaine and his ex-wife Desiree Young, have said they suspect her of having something to do with Kyron’s disappearance. Both were interviewed by Willamette Week.

Kaine’s revelation that he wished the alleged plot to kill him went through came after a reporter at the paper asked him how he felt knowing he was the one who brought Terri Horman into the family.

“I feel responsible. I feel guilty. It's my job to protect him. It's my job to be there for him. I was there for him and someone got past and got him on my watch. I'm very upset about it. I'm very emotional about it. It's not right. It shouldn't have happened. We all trusted her. I feel partly responsible. In a weird way, I almost wish that her plot that she originally put in place would have gone through, because he would still be here,” he said.

The plot Kaine mentioned was laid out in divorce documents where he claims detectives told him Terri tried to hire a landscaper to kill him. That was the basis of the restraining order that he got against Terri.

He also told the paper that he lives every day with the guilt that he couldn’t protect his son.

“I'm not saying I feel directly responsible for it, but I feel really guilty about it. And I wish there was anything I could do to change places with him in any way, shape or form,” he said.

He said he’s turning that guilt into something positive through his efforts to find his Kyron.

“I would do anything, I would give anything, and I always would. Up to this point I have always been there in that capacity. Anything bad that happens to him, I wish I could shoulder it for him (that) I could take it away from him. I wish it would come to me instead of him. It just didn't go that way this time, and I really wish it would have.”

James Pitkin, the reporter at the Willamette Week who interviewed Kaine said it was difficult to ask questions when there’s so much speculation around his family.

“I never look forward to asking those questions,” Pitkin said. “But in a way that’s the most compelling part of the case. How does someone cope with being in this position? How does a person who believes their wife is involved with the disappearance of their child come to terms with the emotional reality of that.”

Desiree too said she feels guilty for not being able to protect Kyron.

“I think that all of us in this case that’s close to Kyron, all of us feel guilty to a certain degree about what it is that we’re going to feel guilty about,” she said. “I feel guilty I wasn’t here to protect him. And that’s our job is to protect our son, and I feel like I failed in that.”

http://www.katu.com/news/local/99594834.html

[lisette]

Terri Moulton Horman wants court to order estranged husband to pay attorney fees
Published: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 5:05 PM Updated: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 6:10 PM
Maxine Bernstein, The Oregonian
Terri Moulton Horman wants her estranged husband to pay her attorney fees, according to a motion her divorce attorney filed in Multnomah County Circuit Court today.

Attorney Peter Bunch was responding to Kaine Horman's motion last week to have the court order Terri Horman to show where she obtained the money to pay her attorney.

Bunch said the $350,000 that Kaine Horman claimed his wife paid to criminal defense attorney Stephen Houze is "grossly inaccurate.''

Bunch also writes that Terri Horman did not borrow money or use any marital funds to pay Houze, and does not now, and will not in the future, contend that any money paid to Houze is a marital liability.

Lastly, he says Kaine Horman should be required to pay Terri Horman's attorney fees and costs in the divorce proceeding.

Bunch asks the court to dismiss Kaine Horman's request to order Terri Horman to show cause why she shouldn't be forced to disclose how she obtained the money for her lawyer.

Terri Horman reportedly wrote to Michael Cook, a high school friend of Kaine Horman's who is accused of having an intimate relationship with Terri after her husband left the home June 26, that she paid $350,000 to retain Houze.

Kaine Horman's lawyer Laura Rackner made reference to that "written communication" in her motion last week to have Terri Horman explain where she obtained the money.

On Wednesday, Bunch had filed a motion to delay divorce proceedings, citing intense media and police scrutiny of his client.

He also pointed out that Terri Horman is unemployed and unemployable, with no independent source of money to pay her legal fees, while Kaine Horman is employed at Intel with a good salary and has sufficient savings.

A criminal investigation into Kyron's disappearance continues. Kyron's parents, Kaine Horman and Desiree Young, are scheduled to hold a news conference tomorrow morning.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/terri_moulton_horman_wants_cou.html

[Wrapitup]

Kaine says he feels guilty for bringing Terri Horman into their lives. Excuse me, but didn't he have an affair with Terri when Desiree was 8 mo pregnant w/Kyron? And now, he is saying he would do anything, that Terri should have gone through with the murder plot for hire. Give me a break!! He couldn't even attend his science fair project.

I don't believe Kaine or Desiree are involved with Kyron's disappearance but I feel no pity for either one of them making those statements..."we should have been there for him." That's a no brainer.

As far as Kaine paying the court costs for the divorce, under the circumstances with a restraining order..I do not believe he should have to. And are we clear? Did Terri pay Houze $350,000 or not? What is "grossly inaccurate?" Even $100,000 would be a lot. WHERE would she get this kind of money as a sub teacher?

[jeanne1807]

You know what. I am not so sure she was a "sub" teacher. Can anybody find out just what her record on teaching really is? I think she just volunteered her time now and then.
Subing a couple of times does not make you a "sub" teacher.

I don't think Terri has done much in her lifetime other than seduce men. Oh yes the bodybuilding...sigh.

[Wrapitup]

Or seducing men With the body building. If I were a man, that would be a complete turn off.

[Nama]

Here you go, Jeanne.

Terri Horman


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Terri Horman’s Summary

I am seeking employment with elementary level grades, but while searching, I currently volunteer my reading specialist skills at Skyline Elementary in the Portland Public School System.

A certified teacher since 2000, I have taught "typicals" through college level, ADD, ADHD, ODD, OSC, YSC, Prader Willy, Down Syndrome and Medically Fragile.

I recently took some World Literature classes through Portland State University and renewed my certification.

Terri Horman’s Specialties:
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Terri Horman’s Experience

Teaching Assistant
Portland Public Schools
(Educational Institution; Education Management industry)
September 2008 — Present (1 year 11 months)
Assisting at Skyline Elementary School for testing.

Reading Specialist
Portland Public Schools
(Educational Institution; Education Management industry)
September 2007 — Present (2 years 11 months)
Specifically Skyline Elementary assisting in all classrooms as needed.

Elementary Teacher
Portland Public Schools
(Educational Institution; Education Management industry)
March 2002 — December 2008 (6 years 10 months)
Reading Specialist

Terri Horman’s Education

Northwest Christian College
BA , Education , 1998 — 2000

Activities and Societies:
President of Educational Club
Founder of YPO (Young Parent Organization)
Roseburg High School
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Professional: World Literature, REA training, DRA training Personal: gardening and weight lifting.

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Learning, Education and Training Professionals Group
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Terri Horman’s Honors:
Award for Job Excellence from Bonneville Power Plant while taking on an assignment to create a state standard curriculum guide example for K-2 students.

I was awarded this for learning some various jobs and helping out with day to day tasks while creating my guide.

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http://www.linkedin.com/in/terrihorman

[jeanne1807]

Bj I am not too sure about that resume filled out by Terri.

I think she only volunteered in some class rooms.

I don't think she actually taught in the classroom.

She might have assisted but her resume looks like smoke and mirrors to me.

[Guest]

Has anyone else been to the Hinky Meter today? A must see blog has been posted.
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/07/29/kyron-horman-case-considering-motives/#comments
I've decided to print this article. ~wrap~

Kyron Horman case: Considering motives

Posted on July 29th, 2010 by Valhall

I’m about to link a thread that in and of itself is very disturbing. Being a stepmother myself and living in what I recently learned was termed a “blended family” for some time now, I had no idea that there could be this many stepparents out there who harbored outright hatred of their stepchildren. Not until in my research I stumbled on to this thread – actually, I have to say this “forum” because this particular thread is only one of several with the attitudes voiced in this forum entitled “Stepfamily Forum”.

Then within that thread I’m going to be discussing a specific post. I want to say upfront that when I read it there was enough that made me fear it COULD be Terri Horman that I did, in fact, submit questions to a contact who I asked if Kaine Horman could answer in order to determine if it could be Terri. Kaine’s answers to those questions led me to believe this is NOT Terri Horman, but I can’t help but point out that somewhere out there is some child in a dangerous situation. And if the person who posted this comment takes issue with my opinion on that….they can go suck eggs.

I’m sharing this for a couple of reasons. To show that there ARE stepparents out there who are not mature enough and not emotionally stable enough to be stepparents. As a stepparent I can tell you that I take issue with anyone who wants to try to cast stepparents – in some blanket stereotypical fashion – as evil people. I think a person is either bad or good – but not by label. So there are bad parents (note Teghan’s mother, or Casey Anthony) just like there are bad stepparents. But I also share this with you because I wonder…could this voice a possible motive behind Terri’s thinking – IF she was, in fact, involved in Kyron’s disappearance? Read these words carefully and consider that question.

From this thread on “iVillage Garden Web: The internet’s garden & home community” in the forum “Stepfamily”. Thread title “Can’t accept my Stepson”.

http://www.thathomesite.com/forums/load/step/msg011826118329.html?60

Approximately 3/4’s of the way down the page a post by “stepmom2kids” posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 at 18:35:

I hate my step kid too. Its not pleasant to think of your husband with another woman making babies, much less having to care for them yourself as a free babysitter, and all the bull that comes with it. Out in the wild, hippos, lions and various other mammals will kill these offspring. I can’t stand my step kid, and he lives with us Frown
Anyways, if I didn’t know him I’d say he’s a very sweet kid, that has a speech disorder/learning disorder, and as long as I wouldn’t have to be around him for extended periods of time, I’d like him, or be indifferent. But since he’s my step kid and I’m his main caretaker, I harbor a lot of resentment, that I worry may harm my health carrying all of this secret hate around, or that it will come around band bite me in the ass somehow later on. It is very unnatural having step kids, very unnatural to love them, it goes against nature is how it feels anyway. I have often wished he’d get out of my life, but we can’t afford to pay child support and I have my own daughter to worry about. If we pay more than we can afford each month, how am I going to take care of my own daughter? That would agonize me much more than gritting my teeth everyday and enduring my stepson’s presence. I too would get up and do the gig if I only had to have him 3weeks out of the year. I used to wish that he would choke to death, and one day at a buffet it actually almost happened, man, did I regret that wish, I cried so much, I felt so sorry for his helpless little face as he chocked for air. I couldn’t have lived with the guilt if he’s dad wouldn’t of been there to save his life. Now I just wish he’d get abducted by aliens or something, Just kidding. He’s okay sometimes, but usually talks like a retard behind his years. I think he has some kind of learning disability that makes him very good with numbers, but a social retard (in my spiteful opinion). According to the dad he is a genius…Pff.. HAHA! What happened to me, I used to be nice, I still am a very nice person, it was normal for close friends to call me one of the nicest, accepting friends, accepting and befriending anyone for who they were. But being a step mom has brought out the worst in me, and is certainly the hardest thing I have ever had to do. I feel like Angelina Jolie in that movie where the police give her a kid that is not hers and he’s calling her “mom”, she throws a pan at the wall and shrieks, “I’m NOT YOUR MOTHER, DON’T CALL ME THAT!!!”. That’s what I want to do when he calls me mom. Instead I shutter inside, and on the outside, I smile sweetly and say, Yes? This is what my life will be from now on because I married a good guy who already had a kid.

Okay, you can probably immediately see why I emailed in questions to be submitted to Kaine Horman on this. A stepmother with a small daughter “putting up with” her stepson and voicing hatred and wishes of him choking to death….kind of set off sirens for me. So I submitted the following questions (in so many words):

1. Did Kyron have a speech impediment, but more importantly did Terri ever say SHE thought he had one?

2. Was there ever an incident in which the family was out at a buffet, Kyron choked, and Kaine had to assist him in order to help him stop choking?

The answer came back “No to both.”

So, I don’t THINK this is Terri Horman, but I have not been able to set aside this post. Because what IF it does voice some of the thinking that could have been going through her head. What IF she did really want Kyron to go live with Desiree but she didn’t want to see the loss in income? After all, if a child goes to live with the other parent it isn’t just a loss of the child support you recieve, it is DOUBLE that loss because you begin to pay it to the other parent. Could this hideous post hold insight into what may have happened in Terri’s head? Was she “faking sincerity” in her stepmotherly role while all the while harboring deep hatred, even wishes of harm to Kyron?

I don’t know. And I’m not trying to accuse her of such. But this post, ever since I discovered it, has haunted me and I just wonder if it holds insight into what could be a motive. So I submit it as a starter for discussion. IF Terri did something with or to Kyron, what WAS her motive? Or could it be she really is just another eraser killer?

Valhall.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/07/29/kyron-horman-case-considering-motives/#comments

[cherylz]

Lindamarie...I just went over and read it. Interesting. TH did enjoy gardening and this was on a gardening web-site. Being a "Reading" specialist she would pick up on speech impediments b4 a lay-person would.

[jeanne1807]

Who is Valhall? Never heard of her. Interesting post from somebodys "caretaker". Imagine that.

[Guest]

jeanne Valhall is a member here and has her own blogging site.
cherylz It made the my heart skip a beat when I read that. Valhall says it may not be Terry as she laid out some test questions. However it could be. What that step parent wrote is plain scary.

[artgal16]

I dont think its Terry who posted because I think that there are a lot of women who feel that way about their step children. There are many instances of blended families where they get along, but many where there is a great deal of conflict. I'm more on the side of the conflicted, as almost all of the families I know where there are step-children have had problems. But in some ways that is natural considering parenting styles, and resentments by the children or ex-wives or husbands to the new husband or wife. Money problems, abuse problems added into the mix makes it a challenge to keep everyone happy all the time. What is not natural is wanting your stepchild to die.

[jeanne1807]

This is probably a good time to tell you the advice I give my married children.

You do much better to put the time and effort into saving your marriage. You were in love once. Try to work it out. With each additional marriage it brings in a whole new set of difficulities with step parents, ex's and also blended children of the unions.

When the new "in lust" is over then you have more on your plate than you might have bargained for.

So far they have looked around and seem to agree with me.

Knock on wood.

[artgal16]

Even though Im divorced, and now widowed its good advise!

[lisette]

That surely sounded like it could be Terri...Maybe she just threw a couple of untruths in there to keep somebody from identifying her...And someone hinted early on that Kyron might have ADD/ADHD or a learning disorder and that's why he was going to the doctor for an evaluation...But I think that was "put out there" from Terri via her friends... According to Desiree and Kaine's interview last week, most of what was reported was from Terri via her friends...much of it lies, i.e. she and Desiree being friends before Kyron's birth, her moving in to take care of Kyron, etc.. So, considering the site of the forum, you do have to wonder if it could be her...

[lisette]

Kaine Horman: Don't be afraid to come forward with a tip

TIGARD, Ore. (AP) - The birth parents of 7-year-old Kyron Horman marked the eighth week of his disappearance by saying they are still holding out hope he is alive but they have no idea where he might be.

"I don’t know that I’m getting through it. I’m trying to take it each day at a time, but 8 weeks is a hard marker for me to hit emotionally," Desiree Young said in response to a question from the media. She appeared with her ex-husband and Kyron's father, Kaine Horman.

At a Friday news conference Desiree Young also repeated her belief that stepmother Terri Horman is involved in the Oregon boy's disappearance. Terri Horman has not been identified as a suspect by investigators.

When asked about what she thinks has happened to her son, Desiree Young said "My theory? That Kyron’s alive and someone’s holding him." She did not elaborate further.

Kaine Horman reflected on the search effort following Kyron's disappearance. "I’ve hugged more people that I don’t know in the past month, month and a half than I have in my whole life and again I’m very private person," he said. People have been giving him a "pat on the back, tell me to keep my chin up, be strong for Kyron, be strong for Kiara, do everything we can to find him, very supportive in all aspects. Everyone else’s priority is finding him and bringing him home and they let me know that."

Kiara is the toddler daughter of Kaine and Terri Horman. Kaine currently has custody of the child.

Both Kaine and Desiree again appealed to the public to contact investigators with any tip, or even if they just knew Kyron or his stepmother, Terri Horman.

For those that may be afraid to come forward, Kaine Horman asked that anyone reluctant to contact law enforcement about the case should empathize with Kyron and how afraid he must be - and then do the right thing by coming forward.

He also said Terri Horman communicated mostly by email and social networking sites such as Facebook, and asked that anyone who received messages from her to to review them and pass them to law enforcement is anything seemed unusual.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/99643109.html

[Guest]

For those that may be afraid to come forward, Kaine Horman asked that anyone reluctant to contact law enforcement about the case should empathize with Kyron and how afraid he must be - and then do the right thing by coming forward.

[jeanne1807]

Wrap is right. I am like a bouncing ball with this one. One day I think Terri is guilty and the next day I wonder if we are having tunnel vision with thinking only about her. What if somebody did come in and take him?
If she didn't act like "the cat that swallowed the mouse" one might be more likely to look elsewhere.

Then I get angry with Kaine..was he living in a bubble? What role did he play in his sons caretaking? Why didn't he go to the science fair that was so important to Kyron.

And of course Desiree. I have critiqued her hair and makeup but her heart truly has to be breaking in half.

I am sure both Kaine and Desiree have heaped enough guilt and blame on themselves.

The bottom line is nobody ever expected that to be the last time they would see him. None of us expect that.

If we could only turn back time.

[Guest]

It almost seems like Kaine & Desiree are drawing closer through this painful experience... doing press conferences together, etc. I don't know all the details about their divorces (except that Terri had an affair with Kaine), but it seems as though their mutual grief over Kyron is helping their relationship. It would be interesting if they decided to get back together - I'm sure that if Kyron is still alive, he would be thrilled!

[Guest]

Yes Rainbow I have seen them getting closer as well. No one should make major life decisions at times like this. I hope they are getting some counseling and won't go there.

[Wrapitup]

I would think "getting back together" would be the last thing on their mind right now. And, then..there is Tony.

[jeanne1807]

But if you notice in my post way back when I made mention that Tony and Desiree don't touch or look or share like a married couple would in times of great stress.

Tony and Desiree seem to grow apart as Kaine and Desiree and seem to grow closer. Perhaps we are living "Days of our Lives".

Now my thoughts go to..could they have been "meeting up" before Kyron went missing and that is the reason for whatever Terri did, was doing?

[lisette]

Kyron investigators want more info from DeDe Spicher

by David Krough and Colin Miner, KGW.com Staff
Posted on July 31, 2010 at 8:54 AM
Updated today at 4:55 PM
PORTLAND -- As the investigation into the disappearance of Kyron Horman enters its ninth week, KGW has learned invesitgators are busy trying to determine what - if anything - a friend of his step-mother's knows about what happened to him.
Sources - including people who have spoken with investigators - tell KGW that DeDe Speicher was cooperating more now after an appeal from Kyron's parents that she be more forthcoming.
However, investigators believe that she has still has not told them everything she knows.
KGW has learned that investigators have conducted several searches related to Speicher, including of property belonging to relatives of hers. They have also spoken with people who were in contact with her the day Kyron disappeared.
According to these sources, investigators want to know from Speicher - who spent days with Terri after Kaine moved out, taking their daughter with him - what Terri may have told her about the day Kyron disappeared and whether she was in contact with Terri on that day.
Calls to Spicher's attorney were not returned.

http://www.kgw.com/news/Reward-missing-Portland--Kyron-Horman-up-to-50000-99349594.html

[Wrapitup]

For those that may be afraid to come forward, Kaine Horman asked that anyone reluctant to contact law enforcement about the case should empathize with Kyron and how afraid he must be - and then do the right thing by coming forward.

He also said Terri Horman communicated mostly by email and social networking sites such as Facebook, and asked that anyone who received messages from her to to review them and pass them to law enforcement is anything seemed unusual.

That would fit right in w/The Hinky Meter's post.

[Guest]

I'm not sure if this has already been discussed in a previous post, but I just had the thought that the $350, 000 that Terri paid her lawyer may have come from selling Kyron to someone. For what purpose, I have no idea - adoption? Something more sinister? His parents sure seem to be convinced that he is still alive somewhere!

[jeanne1807]

Rainbow I don't think parents ever give up hope that their missing little one is not just being "held" somewhere. I think at this point chances of Kyron being alive are pretty slim.

I really worry about the landscaping "folks". We may never find Kyron.

[Nama]

The parents of missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman tell WW that producers for Oprah Winfrey have contacted them. But Kaine Horman and Desiree Young say they won’t take money for the story of Kyron’s disappearance.

“We wouldn’t sell it,” Young said in an interview Tuesday.

“Oh yeah,” Horman agreed. “It’s not about money.”

They said they’ve been in contact with producers from The Oprah Show. But they said they’ve received no offers yet for book or movie deals.

Money has been an issue since July 26, when Kaine Horman filed papers in his ongoing divorce requesting to know the source of $350,000 that his wife, Terri Moulton Horman, allegedly paid her criminal-defense lawyer. According to The Oregonian, Terri Moulton Horman’s lawyer filed a response Thursday calling that reported amount “grossly inaccurate.”

Kaine Horman told WW he has no idea where his wife got the money.

“When you find out, call me,” he said. “I want to know.”

One possibility that’s been suggested is that Terri Moulton Horman’s parents, Larry and Carol Moulton, may have taken out an additional mortgage on their $175,500 house in Roseburg. Terri Moulton Horman moved into that house with her parents around July 16.

But according to the Douglas County Assessor’s Office on Wednesday, the last time the Moultons refinanced their home was in 2008.

http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/07/30/kyrons-parents-in-touch-with-oprah-but-say-they-wont-take-money-for-story/

[charminglane]

All along I have been thinking that Desiree and Kaine have been seeing each other and Terri found out.
I think she is diabolical, myself.
Jeanne-I completely agree on the landscaping thing and add DeDe to the mix.

[lisette]

Kyron’s parents testify before grand jury

By Thom Jensen KATU News and KATU.com

PORTLAND, Ore. - The parents of missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman testified before a grand jury Monday afternoon, according to a source at the Multnomah County Courthouse.

Kyron’s mother, Desiree Young, and his stepfather, Tony Young, left the Multnomah County Courthouse out a side door following their testimony and were escorted by sheriff’s deputies.

They said nothing and left in an unmarked car.

Kyron’s father, Kaine Horman, left separately after more than three hours of speaking with jurors. He also had no comment.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/99801789.html

Kyron Horman's Parents Seen Leaving Courthouse
$50K Reward Brings In New Tips In Kyron Horman Case
POSTED: 2:22 pm PDT August 2, 2010
UPDATED: 5:17 pm PDT August 2, 2010

PORTLAND, Ore. -- The birth parents of Kyron Horman are believed to have testified before a grand jury Monday afternoon.
Kaine Horman was seen leaving the Multnomah County Courthouse at about 4:15 p.m., shortly after witnesses said Desiree Young also left. A source in the courthouse said Kaine Horman and Young were seen gathering in front of the grand jury room Monday.
After the meeting, a deputy escorted Kaine Horman to a waiting car. He did not make any comments about the grand jury's questions or any of his answers.

http://www.kptv.com/news/24481541/detail.html

[jeanne1807]

I wonder if the Grandjury is hearing testimony concering the murder for hire or the disappearance.

I would think they would go for the former and let the latter sit a while to get something more to go on.

What a strange, strange case.

[Wrapitup]

Aug 2, 2010 Author Melissa Finlay

There have been many rumors in the case of missing boy Kyron Horman. One in particular is that an arrest is imminent. It is unlikely that an arrest is imminent when a crime has not been defined. At this point, it is unclear whether Kyron Horman was abducted, taken and hid away, or tragically murdered. Since investigators are still working to determine what happened to Kyron, and since there is no physical evidence regarding Kyron, it is highly doubtful someone would be arrested.

Kyron Horman’s case is very similar to that of Gabriel Johnson and Haleigh Cummings. It would also be similar to that of Caylee Anthony except that six months into the search for Caylee a meter reader stumbled upon her remains. No one could be arrested for Kyron’s murder because there is no evidence showing he is dead. Rumors that an arrest of Terri Horman is imminent are simply rumors. She could only be arrested if there was actual indication that she committed a crime. At this point, Terri Horman hasn’t been named a suspect in Kyron’s disappearance.

That could change, though.

If Terri Horman is involved and she said something to someone, the time for that person to come forward is now. If you know anything about Kyron Horman’s whereabouts or the events that transpired on the day of June 4th, you must come forward and share what you know. The truth of what happened to Kyron Horman may never be learned and may remain an agonizing mystery such as the Haleigh Cummings case. If you have information regarding Kyron Horman’s whereabouts, do not delay. The time to act is now. You may call the Kyron Horman tip line at: 1-503 261-2847

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http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=8593

[lisette]

Stepmom's friends scrutinized as investigators comb through 3,500 tips in Kyron Horman case

Published: Monday, August 02, 2010, 2:52 PM Updated: Monday, August 02, 2010, 10:27 P
Lynne Terry/The Oregonian

Investigators have been focusing on Terri Moulton Horman's close circle of friends after learning that one of them obtained new cell phones for her so she could avoid investigators' scrutiny after becoming the focus of the inquiry into the disappearance of her 7-year-old stepson.

Meanwhile, the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office said that last week's doubling of the reward for information leading to Kyron's whereabouts has spurred a flurry of calls. Investigators have combed through more than 3,500 tips so far, receiving five to 10 tips every hour. Many are quickly eliminated, but others are followed up on, the sheriff's office said in a news release.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/multnomah_county_shericomb_thr.html

[lisette]

Terri Horman back in Portland as others appear before grand jury

Last Update: 6:33 pm

(Kyle Mallory, KOIN)
Terri Horman was back in Portland Tuesday, less than 24 hours after Kaine Horman, Desiree and Tony Young appeared before a Multnomah County grand jury.

Terri pulled into the Pacwest Building in downtown Portland around 9 a.m. Tuesday to meet with criminal attorney Stephen Houze, who has an office on the 12th floor.

A court date was set (Aug. 25) for Kaine and Terri's divorce and restraining order, but it is unclear if that is the reason Terri was in Portland.

She was seen driving a white Toyota with her father, Larry Moulton. The two left just before 4:30 p.m.

Faced with questions as she was leaving about why she was in Portland and what happened to Kyron, Terri, shaded by sunglasses, stared straight ahead.

It’s not clear what she was meeting Houze about, but it comes at a busy time during the investigation into the disappearance of 7-year-old Kyron Horman.

“We’re still very much in charge of this investigation, it’s active, it’s very productive at this point – we’re moving forward,” said Capt. Jason Gates, a Multnomah County Sheriff’s spokesman.

While no one in law enforcement has named Terri a suspect, members of Kyron’s family, as well as Terri’s friend DeDe Spicher, have been called before the grand jury.

Former Multnomah County Sheriff’s Capt. Bruce McCain says the fact that Kyron’s stepmom has not appeared before the grand jury is significant, in that grand juries don’t usually subpoena a possible suspect.

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Terri-Horman-back-in-Portland-as-others-appear/ZGRThEFwPUyPrIASZIWZ8Q.cspx

[Wrapitup]

POSTED: 12:37 pm PDT August 3, 2010
UPDATED: 5:06 pm PDT August 3, 2010

PORTLAND, Ore. -- Another friend of Terri Horman has been subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury this week as the investigation into 7-year-old Kyron Horman's disappearance reached its 61st day.
Chelsea Aleshire, who identified herself as a close friend to Terri Horman, said she will appear in court Thursday. Aleshire spoke to Terri Horman on the day Kyron disappeared from Skyline School, but at the time they spoke, Aleshire was not aware that Kyron was missing, she said.
She has not spoken to Terri Horman since then, she said.
Aleshire is at least the second of Terri Horman's friends to have been subpoenaed. Eight days ago, DeDe Spicher appeared before the grand jury. Sources have said Spicher did not answer any questions. Kyron's birth parents, Kaine Horman and Desiree Young, have suggested she's not cooperating with the investigators.

The Oregonian newspaper reported this week that investigators have focused on Terri Horman's close circle of friends after learning one of them obtained new cell phones for her so she could avoid investigators' scrutiny.

Kaine Horman and Young were seen leaving the Multnomah County Courthouse on Monday and a source said they were seen huddling in front of the grand jury room. Although they have spoken at numerous news conferences in the past few weeks, they did not speak with media upon leaving the courthouse.
The grand jury proceedings are secret and details about the subject of discussion are unknown.

http://www.kptv.com/news/24499150/detail.html

[jeanne1807]

Does anybody know what kind of work Desiree does? I know she had a job but I have wondered just what kind of job she has? Anybody?

[Wrapitup]

No clue, Jeanne. She seems pretty intelligent to me.

[Wrapitup]

August 4, 6:20 PM
Crime Examiner
Cindy Adams
n Horman news: Disturbing message along with possible vandalism at Wall of Hope for missing boy

A Wall of Hope has been created at Skyline School, where Kyron Horman is believed to have disappeared over eight weeks ago. Authorities are now investigating possible vandalism at the site, while others are upset about a disturbing message left at the location.

The “Wall,” consisting of a chain link fence on school property holds cards, balloon, flowers, notes, and stuffed animals for the missing 7-year-old.

According to Multnomah County deputies, someone apparently tried to rip down a handmade laminated banner from a Kindercare Center with the message “Helping Hands for Kyron.”

Although a man known to have mental health issues was found in the area, he was questioned by authorities and denied vandalizing the fence. He indicated, however, that he wanted to search for Kyron himself.

According to KPTV, others who visited the site were upset when they read a message placed on the “Wall” that read:

“I love you daddy. You will see me in another time and place where ‘I’ Kyron (Special K) is no longer in pain, where ‘she’ can no longer hurt me. Dad I am safe. I love you 'Pop.'”

One mother, Denise Smith, who visited the “Wall” said she was skeptical of the message. “If someone is trying to play a joke, that’s a really sick joke,” she said. “It kind of infers a different message.”

Kyron vanished on June 4 after attending a science fair at his school with his stepmother, Terri Horman. She is believed to be the last person to see him before he disappeared that morning.
Kyron was wearing a “CSI” t-shirt and black cargo pants when he vanished.

Anyone with information regarding Kyron Horman’s whereabouts is asked to call the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office tip line at 503-261-2847 or call 911 with emergency information.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2010m8d4-Kyron-Horman-news-Disturbing-message-along-with-possible-vandalism-at-Wall-of-Hope-for-missing-boy

That is just sick!!!!!!!

[Wrapitup]

by KGW.com Staff
NWCN.com
Posted on August 4, 2010 at 10:58 AM

PORTLAND, Ore. -- The father of missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman wants to know how his estranged wife is paying for her legal costs.

A court set an August 25 hearing date on a motion filed by Kaine Horman to find out how Terri Moulton-Horman is paying a reported $350,000 for criminal defense attorney Stephen Houze.

Last week, court papers filed by Terri stated she wants Kaine to pay her legal fees as they go through their divorce.
That filing claimed that Terri does not have the money to pay for a drawn out case. The filing also claims that Kaine Horman "grossly misstated" the $350,000 figure, which was claimed in documents filed by Kaine's attorney.

But reliable sources told KGW the $350,000 figure was mentioned by Terri in a text to Michael Cook, a man she was accused of showing a sealed restraining order and sending sexually explicit text messages to in June. More: Restraining order reveals details

On Wednesday, Terri's attorney Peter Bunch filed a 'motion to abate' document. In it, Terri agreed not to contest the divorce, saying that intense media and law enforcement scrutiny and speculation prevented her from handling the case in an ordinary fashion. The motion would allow a judge to dismiss the case from a trial docket. The abatement requested issues regarding financial settlements and child care be postponed.

Details: Motion to abate (PDF)

"She's essentially choosing between her fifth amendment right and her ability to give evidence in the divorce," divorce attorney Jody Stahancyk said.

Terri's lawyer argues that Kaine cannot afford high legal fees and take care of the children, and that Terri was unemployed and at present "not employable," due to the Kyron case.

In the motion filed Wednesday, Terri claims Kaine was "using the divorce proceedings for purposes other than to move the case forward to a final resolution," and that the divorce shouldn't be complicated by the investigation into whether Terri had anything to do with Kyron's disappearance.

Citing the high-profile nature of the case, attorney Bunch argued in the abatement motion that it was "virtually impossible" to proceed with the divorce in an orderly fashion.

If the motion were to be approved, it could enable Terri to avoid giving testimony in court related to the divorce.

On Tuesday, the reward for information that leads to Kyron was doubled from $25,000 to $50,000 by an anonymous donor.

No suspects or persons of interest have been named in the disappearance of Kyron Horman, but attention has focused on Terri since she was the last person to report seeing Kyron after dropping him off at Skyline Elementary on June 4.

Detectives have not interviewed Terri since she retained Houze in July.

In court documents, the boy's father Kaine Horman stated police had provided him with "probable cause" to believe that Terri was involved in Kyron's disappearance, plotted to have Kaine killed, and was having a sexual affair.

Reliable sources told KGW that investigators said there was probable cause to arrest Terri in connection with Kyron's disappearance, and for soliciting someone to kill her husband, but the choice has been for the investigation to continue.

Earlier this month Kaine had Terri evicted from the family's NW Portland home and he returned to the home with the couple's young daughter, Kiara.

http://www.nwcn.com/news/oregon/Kyron-Horman-Terri-Horman-lawyer-fees-99957079.html

[lisette]

Kyron's Skyline School principal appears before grand jury

Last Update: 4:51 pm

It's been a busy week at the Multnomah County courthouse as key players in the Kyron Horman investigation appeared before a grand jury.

Friday it was Skyline School principal Ben Keefer who arrived just after 2 p.m. to appear. He left by 4:10 p.m. and told reporters he had "no comment."

Keefer was on hand at one of the press conferences early on in the investigation into the disappearance of the missing 7-year-old boy.

He read a statement from Kyron's teacher Christine Porter in early June.

"The students in Kyron's class miss him terribly and we are all wishing for his safe return," she wrote. "We look forward to Kyron returning to us soon."

On Thursday, two of Terri's friends, Chelsea Aleshire and Andrea Leckey, made appearances.

"I can't tell you what happened, but I can tell you that you guys are going down a dead end," Aleshire said just before she entered the courthouse.

“She (Terri) was my friend, I talked to her that day as a friend, and that’s all,” she added.

Kaine Horman, Desiree and Tony Young, as well as DeDe Spicher have all made appearances in the last two weeks.

The grand jury is convened on the 8th floor of the Multnomah County courthouse.

Kyron was last seen by his stepmother, Terri, at Skyline School in Northwest Portland on June 4.

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Kyrons-Skyline-School-principal-appears-before/2Ls683NdO0mfFAKnUn2ZHQ.cspx

[CritterFan1]

Follow the money, the dad is right. Where would she get $350,000 unless she was up to no good.

[charminglane]

“She (Terri) was my friend, I talked to her that day as a friend, and that’s all,” she added.

Notice the past tense.

[Nama]

Friends of Terri Horman purchased cell phones to communicate with her after Kyron Horman disappeared two months ago, one of whom did so using a fake name, according to multiple sources on Friday.

The phones were purchased after Kyron's father, Kaine Horman, moved out of the family's home.

The friend, who is not DeDe Spicher, went to the Lloyd Center and bought a prepaid cell phone at an electronic store. The friend now says she regrets using a fake name and that it was “stupid” and “spur of the moment”.

She said the phone she bought was for herself to use and not for Terri Horman.

She insists the three of them, DeDe, Terri and her, only got the phones because they needed AT&T service which allowed them to make calls out of the Horman home at Shelter Nook Road, which is in a remote area and doesn’t service Verizon phones which is what they had.

They also wanted some level of privacy with their conversations which they felt were being monitored by law enforcement, and they wanted to use phones with numbers not known to the press.

She insists she’s not guilty of anything besides trying to be supportive of her friend, Terri. But she said as she has cooperated with investigators she has withdrawn her support. She said she has turned over cell phone records, her business line and all relevant e-mails to investigators that could help them in the case.

It has also been confirmed that at least one of the phones was purchased by DeDe Spicher.

But what remaines unclear is why two additional prepaid phones were purchased at another store in downtown Portland the next day under the same fake name used at the Lloyd Center. The friend said she knows those phones were paid for in cash but she did not make the purchase.

Meanwhile, witnesses continued to file into the Multnomah County Courthouse on Friday for the fifth day to testify before a grand jury regarding the Kyron Horman case.

Testimony was taken from another close friend of Terri Horman who was often at the Horman home supporting her after the June 4 disappearance of Kyron.

She spent about 2 ½ hours with jurors and a prosecutor on the case. She is one of at least three friends of Terri Horman who had her house searched and who underwent polygraph testing with investigators about Kyron.

Ben Keefer, the principal of Kyron’s elementary school (Skyline School) also appeared before the grand jury on Friday. He could hold potentially valuable information since it was at his school that Kyron was last seen touring classrooms with his stepmother, Terri Horman, during the science fair.

Investigators have not named any suspects or persons of interest in this case and have not made any arrests.

http://www.katu.com/news/100161574.html

[jeanne1807]

This is all very strange with the friends. I am thinking of my two good friends and how I would feel if they wanted me to purchase phones for them.

I think I would do it if one of their husbands was to up and leave them and they needed to make descrete calls to lawyers and family.

I don't think I would do it if a child was missing. No I am sure I would not go there.

There in lies the wondering just what Terri and maybe these "ladies" were actually up to.

If they know nothing about Kyron then I would say the poor little fellow has passed. I don't think Terri could keep that secret from close friends that moved in and lied for her if she was innocent.

[TerryRose]

Did anyone see the spot on the news today that I did on LOCAL news this afternoon? I was shocked. They said that tipsters are getting upset over this case because they have called and given their tips and have never been called back or interviewed since. They think that LE is not interested in what they have to offer. They briefly interviewed a citizen in the area of Kyron's disappearance and this woman called twice with the same information, then backed off in disgust with LE because there was no follow-through and she didn't want to appear to be a nut. Her tip was that she personally saw a little boy matching Kyron's description at a fast-food restaurant in the area that very same day he went missing. After hearing this, I wondered about the following: Is my memory correct that it has been said that he was begging the bio-mom not to have to go back to his father's house right before this? Could it possibly be that he attempted to run away?

[jeanne1807]

Terryrose I have followed the Morgan Harrington case pretty closely and that was one of tipsters big complaints. They were getting voice mail at VSP. They left their tip and never heard a word. Like it dropped into the black lagoon.

Kyron had been telling him bio mother that he wanted to live with her and not his father. She said she should have listened.

Kyron was to return to his biomother for the weekend the day he went missing. I am sure he was looking forward to being there. It had been two weeks since he saw his bio mother because she was every other weekend...sigh...

[lisette]

Kyron searchers return, 'following up on tips'

By KATU.com Staff
Saturday, August 7th, 1:47 pm
PORTLAND, Ore. - Rescue personnel involved in the search for second-grader Kyron Horman have returned to Northwest Portland Saturday.

The searchers converged at a convenience store near Skyline School.

Mary Lindstrand, spokesperson for the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office, told us hey are "following up on tips" in the Skyline area. However, she would not comment further on why crews were in this area.

UPDATE: Meanwhile, a reliable source tells KATU that rescuers will be searching Sauvie Island again over the weekend.

Balloons of Hope: 300 balloons released for Kyron

By Valerie Hurst, KATU News and KATU.com Staff

Each balloon bore a message: some for Kyron, others for his family and some for God.
Story Published: Aug 7, 2010 at 6:23 PM PDT Story Updated: Aug 7, 2010 at 7:01 PM PDT
Three hundred red balloons are corralled in a clear plastic tent outside Skyline School, where the balloons were released Saturday as a sign of hope for finding 7-year-old Kyron Horman.

PORTLAND, Ore. – It was a sad but hopeful moment Saturday in the disappearance of and nine-week search for Kyron Horman.

Hundreds gathered at his rural Northwest Portland elementary school, to offer prayers and well wishes in a unique way: hundreds of balloons were released into the sky at Kyron's Wall of Hope just after 11 a.m. Saturday morning.

With every pump of helium a different note was attached to a red balloon – a color Kyron's family has said is the missing 7-year-old boy's favorite. Attached were emotional words from people who have found a new way to come together and are keeping hope alive that Kyron will be found.

Some of those messages were for Kyron, others were for his family and some were for God. One little girl told us she hopes that if Kyron is in heaven he'll gather up the balloons and know people down here are thinking of him.

For Ellyssa Scholz, who wrote to Kyron, the message was simple: "Kyron we love you and we really want you to be found."

Scholz is just a few years older than Kyron. She doesn't know him, and came from Gresham with her family to send her message.

Most of the people here have no direct relationship with Kyron nor his family. Not even the organizer, a woman named Kecia, knows everyone who sent off messages to Kyron. Kecia said people as far away as England and New Zealand sent her messages to tie onto the balloons.

"The whole world is inspired by Kyron," Kecia said. "And everybody knows and has hope."

As a makeshift tent was filled with the 300 balloons Saturday, Kecia wondered who else might see the display.

"I don't know if it's going to have an effect for ... the people responsible," she said.

When the balloons were released, there was very little sound from the crowd: just tears and a sense of connection to a 7 year old who has touched so many lives.

Kecia tells us she did clear the event with the Department of Environmental Quality and other officials who needed to approve 300 balloons going airborne. The approval was necessary given that some states restrict balloon launches, including Connecticut, Tennessee, Florida and Virginia. We did not see any of Kyron's family at the school for the balloon release.

http://www.katu.com/news/local

[jeanne1807]

This morning I was sitting here thinking. We have heard everything about Terri but very little about Desiree. Why is that?

I have a lot of questions about her.

Where does she work?
Did she get Kyron on his Summer vacation?
When was the last time she talked to Kyron because it had been two weeks since his last visit.
Is there another child in the Desiree/Tony household?
How long have Tony and Desiree been married?

Funny how they are keeping everything about them on the QT.

Terri has never defended herself or said a word about Desiree. Makes me think she is either guilty of something or feels like talking won't help at all. People have made up their minds already.

Just thinking about Kyron this morning.

[Wrapitup]

Dearest Jeanne,

You bring up some great points. But, I have to tease you with your bouncing back and forth on this case (I think many of us are).

[lisette]

jeanne, I've heard the answer to a couple of your questions...Last summer they started doing 6 weeks with one and 6 weeks with the other instead of every other weekend and holidays like they do in the school year...I heard Desiree and Kaine talk about that in an interview, about how it was a adjustment for Kyron last summer...I also read that Desiree had another (older) son from another marriage (relationship?) that was with her every other weekend like Kyron...Not much about that in the news, but I do remember hearing/reading those two things...

[jeanne1807]

I think when nothing is found and nothing is disclosed we all become a bit frustrated and start looking at other possibilities.

lisette I remember the Dateline hour and there was a bunkbed that both boys shared. That made me wonder if there was another "weekender" or if another boy lived with them full time.

I just can't figure this one out. What "if" Terri didn't do it. Then where are we?

Remember when the little girl went missing and her stepfather was suspected of abducting her. Jaycee Duggard. He was pretty much put through the wringer.

Turns out he was innocent. So I have to look at possibilities as I hope the police are doing unless they have a whole lot more.

I don't think Desiree or Tony had anything to do with Kyron gone missing but I find it strange we know nothing about the two of them. They have managed to keep their private lives pretty private for all the exposure this case has had.

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