#3 - Hailey Dunn Missing in Colorado City, TX/ Search Affidavits - pages 4 and 21/ Billie denies knowledge of images of bestiality and child pornography on computer of Shawn Adkins, primary suspect, and memory stick found in Billie's home

BTH Thank you so much for confirming what as I feared is just more of the very "ugly" truth{funny how BJD calls where these ppl have busted their ass searching as "ugly"}..when what's "ugly" is everything about Billie Jean Dunn..tho I speak not of petty "ugly" such as her outward appearance which by all accounts is unattractive..bought tits or not..she still at the heart of it all is as ugly as homemade sin{as my grandma used to say}.. No wonder she never could "buy up" even with her moonlighting job at Jaguars..

I'm angry as hell and I completely understand how Hailey's Angels are feeling{sorry the mud slinging brought here about those women just doesn't fly nor hold the weight of a grain of salt of the mouth from which it comes}..Fact is we don't give a damn what ANY searchers "reason" is for hauling their ass out to CCity and surrounding areas everyday..Just so long as they're out their searching..

And I have a feeling that once the anger subsides that Billie so easily brings out in ppl with her bullsh*t that pours from that mouth..once it subsides and they realize that its only left to ppl such as themselves to search and find Hailey..because fact is the person who calls herself Hailey's "mom" won't get off her "ugly" used-up ass from staying plopped on those "new" couches w/the POS masked lover as they "comfortably" live each day wasted breathing the air that the beautiful child that she birthed ought to be breathing...you know these POs will not lift a finger except to the remote control or to pop the next top off a beer..and its only ppl such as Hailey's Angels that'll be the one to find Hailey.. I truly think they won't give up..They'll rise above BJD's bullsh*t and continue the fight to ensure Hailey's justice..

cztzg wrote:
She and Clint stood quietly by while someone ranted at them, shaking her finger in their faces. Neither one of them argued or raised their voices. Both of them voiced their appreciation to the searchers.


Instead Billie Dunn went on TV and slammed them. She is an ungrateful Q($(E$^@ (I won't type it as I will be banned)

CZ you still have not answered my questions????

jeanne, I really don't appreciate that you are being hostile to me. I was not 'sitting and reading', but writing my own post.

I said in an earlier post that I don't feel obligated to answer any questions, much less ones that are meant to be argumentative. I don't have to 'pretend not to see the question'.

I have no idea about the car or the TV. I worked 14 hours today, and only talked to Billie for about 30 min today. I already said that her brother was working on the car. I don't know if he finshed it, or got it running, or towed the darn thing off.

And the first I heard of a TV was right here. I am not a psychic, so what in the world would make me ask Billie if she decided to buy a TV. And so what if she did? She is not using donations.

Neither one of these things have anything to do with Hailey, or how to find her. IMO, All you are doing is trying to stir things up.

There is an account set up for the searchers, the reward, flyers, buttons.... anything having anything to do with finding Hailey. This account has directors who are in charge of it, and everything is done on the up and up. Requisitions, receipts, proof. Don't ask me for details, because I am not one of the directors.

Do you honestly think that Billie can go and take out money to buy a TV from the account?

You can't stand Billie, fine. You don't want to give her money, fine again. She is not asking for any. You are not financing her in any way, so why are you so worried about what she does or does not buy or is given? It is not coming out of your pocket, or any of your friends pockets, so why does it seem to bother you so much that she is not destitute, living in a box on the street?

It is about Hailey, not about Billie. And yes, I am Billie's friend, but I am not her keeper. Or her mom. I am not going to interrogate her about her choices.

And on that happy note, I am off to bed. I had today off but it's back to the office tomorrow.



G'nite! :zzzzz:

bringthemhome wrote:Well, someone sent me a PM about the TV on layaway at Alco......wow, sickening how profitable having a missing child becomes

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Only one of those questions can be verified and that's about the tv. I personally called Alco this am. No I wasn't honest with them but they answered my question. When they answered I said I needed to check on a lay away. That Billie Dunn had a lay away and I had offered to pay it off and needed to know how much was owed. They asked me questions, layaway number, phone number attached to the lay away which I didn't have any of those so they searched by name. The amount owed is $557.74. I asked if it was for a tv. They stated yes. I asked how long it had been on lay away and was told it's less than 10 days old. Folks that's your hard earned donations at work.

OHHH Man!!!

I don't get it, I really don't. BTH I am just jumping off or starting w/ your post as it seemed logical to me for one of my questions. 1st off what gives any of us the right to go snooping in to somebody else's personal business like this. You admit that you lied to get the info you wanted. Does your lie (or my lie) mean anything different when it hits God's ear. I don't think so IMHO but that is just me. If you donated money to BD I can understand to a point but even w/that I can't understand how or why you feel like it is OK to lie about obtaining information on someone by fraudulant and deceitful means. How do any of us know that she did not put the TV on lay away w/ her own money and hope to get it off say from income tax refund. Those are due for ppl that filed early. And who are we to say that BD depression is not being manifested by spending more/shopping more. I know by being in the medical field that this is one of the many ways one might spot (or dx.) depression and I am sure she is depressed. Some will come back and say I am sure that she not to depressed about her daughter but we really don't know the inner workings of anyone's mind. Plus, Yes I will freely admit if everywhere I turned someone was putting me down, talking about me ect as viciously as they are her that in itself is enough to have to go for EST and any other aggressive therapy or tx. my MD rx'ed.

Another thing imo about BD I think she is plain stubborn especially when it comes to SA. I mean she is almost like a kid there. The more she is told how "bad" he is and that he killed or whatever he did to her daughter the more she is going to defend him. Sometimes one has to use reverse psyc. to get any results. Plus , If she admits now that SA did harm HD, then in my veiwpoint if it were me , I would then have to accept the fact that I am the one who brought this man into mine and my children's lives. What has happened to my judgement of character, am I really that far off base that I could not see how evil yhis man is/was. And last but not least , I would realize and have to finally accept the fact that what has happened to my daughter and by whom was caused by me and the GUILT would completely consume me and I would crawl into a fetal position and not be useful to anyone. I would not be able to be there for my sonor my other family. I could not help get out the word about Hailey. I would be completely useless to anyone. I would ask if it were me in BD's position right now for everyone to let me hold on to what hope I have, let me beleive that Hailey is alive and going to come home... just let me beleive and keep my faith for the time being because when they bring me Hailey's body then that would be it. I would have hels out as long as I could and now since she is gone and I was such a terrible mother to her David surely does not need me to mother him and someone else would do a much better job than I ever could . Just put me in a padded room or in the grave beside Hailey as that would be as far as I could go.

There is so much more that could be said but I will stop. It won't do any good. Nobody will ever beleive that BD really loves HD nor anything she says because she started off by lying accd'ing to some and continues to do so now but it is my belief that she just does not know what to say or do anymore because everything is discected until there is nothing left. I don't think Marc Klass' judgement in characters is so far off that he has been completely taken in by BD and nor have I IMO. Yes she definitly needs to change and improve some of her behaviors and communication skills but for this particular time in her journey through time I think that is all to late.

This is All JMO,MOHO,and MOO...
sweets

cztzg writes:
And the first I heard of a TV was right here. I am not a psychic, so what in the world would make me ask Billie if she decided to buy a TV. And so what if she did? She is not using donations.

Before I run off I did have to comment on this. So, if you are not a psychic, how do you know she is "not" using donations????? And, if she isn't working, and hasn't been working for 2 months, where is she getting the money to buy this tv????

Billie Dunn is weaving a big web of lies. It is only a matter of time before Billie sees the inside of a cell.

JMO !

czgtz wrote:jeanne, I really don't appreciate that you are being hostile to me. I was not 'sitting and reading', but writing my own post.

I said in an earlier post that I don't feel obligated to answer any questions, much less ones that are meant to be argumentative. I don't have to 'pretend not to see the question'.

I have no idea about the car or the TV. I worked 14 hours today, and only talked to Billie for about 30 min today. I already said that her brother was working on the car. I don't know if he finshed it, or got it running, or towed the darn thing off.

And the first I heard of a TV was right here. I am not a psychic, so what in the world would make me ask Billie if she decided to buy a TV. And so what if she did? She is not using donations.

Neither one of these things have anything to do with Hailey, or how to find her. IMO, All you are doing is trying to stir things up.

There is an account set up for the searchers, the reward, flyers, buttons.... anything having anything to do with finding Hailey. This account has directors who are in charge of it, and everything is done on the up and up. Requisitions, receipts, proof. Don't ask me for details, because I am not one of the directors.

Do you honestly think that Billie can go and take out money to buy a TV from the account?

You can't stand Billie, fine. You don't want to give her money, fine again. She is not asking for any. You are not financing her in any way, so why are you so worried about what she does or does not buy or is given? It is not coming out of your pocket, or any of your friends pockets, so why does it seem to bother you so much that she is not destitute, living in a box on the street?

It is about Hailey, not about Billie. And yes, I am Billie's friend, but I am not her keeper. Or her mom. I am not going to interrogate her about her choices.

I am not speaking for Jeanne, but I will say if you have followed missing children cases for even 2 yrs you'd see how it has become profitable sadly, IIRC it started with Caylee, then the Cummings crowd, tattoos, new vehicles, you name it.....the general public sees it as vile. We expect to see a mother behave like Desiree Young, Beth Holloway or even Juliano Cardenes mother..they show true, immense grief. It's generally not something you can hide if you truly are experiencing it. I also remember you posting the inf on WS to donate money and the bank information, I also know there are still some naive souls that will continue and so the fact she has this tv on layaway when she has no income leads ppl to put 2 and 2 together and assume it is from some poor schmuck. MOO

Sweets writes: 1st off what gives any of us the right to go snooping in to somebody else's personal business like this. You admit that you lied to get the info you wanted. Does your lie (or my lie) mean anything different when it hits God's ear.


Just one quick comment and then I really truly am going to bed! Sweets, the Police are allowed to lie to suspects to gather information. (yes I know they are the police) But, sometimes, things are done to gather information that may not seem to be above board. But if anyone were to ask Billie if she bought the tv, my guess is she would dance around and not answer as she continually does on everything.

Billie Dunn is taking money via donations and grants to pay her bills. Where is she going to get money to buy a TV??? And, really, her daughter is missing and she is out shopping and buying items for herself? Remember, David is not living there so the tv would be for Billie ... only.

Unless............................................ could it be for her boyfriend Shawn?

I say thank you again to BringThemHome !

bringthemhome - the money... first off I will say I'm Canadian LOL so I am not 100% sure about things down there. But BD did have a job when this happened, it's very possible that she is using vacation time, sick time, and I remember hearing at the beginning of this that coworkers were able to donate some of their own time off to her. I believe it's also possible that she would have soem other benefits available to her as well. ( I know here, most people with good benefits would be able to get short and/or long term disability due to stress)
I have followed a lot of missing children cases, including the Cummings case, and I totally understand what you mean about families profitting off of their missing children. I don't think that it should be assumed that any money BD spends was donated though. MOO

Seems there are alot of accusations going on in this case, with nothing to really back it up other than someone said they seen this or that, or heard this or that. I have been reading on a lot of the facebook pages, and it seems that this dinner last night was a disaster, and the video that was shown had not much to do about Hailey at all. And that is the saddest part about this whole mess. JMO

I agree. As an ex PI, I did the little devious things to get to the truth, Sweets. If SA did in fact murder Hailey, I think it's time Billie wake up out of that fog she is in and see SA for what he really is. I certainly won't make excuses for her. I don't know her personally (Thank God!) but what I have seen of her on NG and in the news, I am not a fan. I think she is in this up to her eyeballs in some fashion..just not sure how yet. MOO.

I applaud BringThemHome!!

czgtz wrote:jeanne, I really don't appreciate that you are being hostile to me. I was not 'sitting and reading', but writing my own post.

I said in an earlier post that I don't feel obligated to answer any questions, much less ones that are meant to be argumentative. I don't have to 'pretend not to see the question'.

I have no idea about the car or the TV. I worked 14 hours today, and only talked to Billie for about 30 min today. I already said that her brother was working on the car. I don't know if he finshed it, or got it running, or towed the darn thing off.

And the first I heard of a TV was right here. I am not a psychic, so what in the world would make me ask Billie if she decided to buy a TV. And so what if she did? She is not using donations.

Neither one of these things have anything to do with Hailey, or how to find her. IMO, All you are doing is trying to stir things up.

There is an account set up for the searchers, the reward, flyers, buttons.... anything having anything to do with finding Hailey. This account has directors who are in charge of it, and everything is done on the up and up. Requisitions, receipts, proof. Don't ask me for details, because I am not one of the directors.

Do you honestly think that Billie can go and take out money to buy a TV from the account?

You can't stand Billie, fine. You don't want to give her money, fine again. She is not asking for any. You are not financing her in any way, so why are you so worried about what she does or does not buy or is given? It is not coming out of your pocket, or any of your friends pockets, so why does it seem to bother you so much that she is not destitute, living in a box on the street?

It is about Hailey, not about Billie. And yes, I am Billie's friend, but I am not her keeper. Or her mom. I am not going to interrogate her about her choices.

She may not be asking for donations but I found this interesting bit of information posted by whom I am presuming to be czgtz and it certainly is asking for donations on behalf of Billie.

Search continues for missing Texas teen
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Colorado City, TX-. After volunteer search efforts for 13-year-old Hailey Dunn failed to find the missing cheerleader on Saturday, organizers are planning to regroup this morning at the Coahoma Volunteer Fire Department. Thr majority of volunteers have been recruited via the social networking site, Facebook. Two pages have been dedicated for use as communication hubs for volunteers including “Find Hailey Dunn” and “Help Find Hailey Dunn”. Yesterday, locals donated food, hot drinks, and water to those participating in searches according to volunteer Cindy Hughes. One volunteer says accounts have been set up at City National Bank(Colorado City) and Paypal for anyone wanting to donate to the Dunn family. The volunteer, xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx, is also asking for food donations for the Dunn household. Anyone wishing to make a donation is asked to contact her via the Facebook page “Find Hailey Dunn”.

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sweets wrote:

bringthemhome wrote:Well, someone sent me a PM about the TV on layaway at Alco......wow, sickening how profitable having a missing child becomes

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Only one of those questions can be verified and that's about the tv. I personally called Alco this am. No I wasn't honest with them but they answered my question. When they answered I said I needed to check on a lay away. That Billie Dunn had a lay away and I had offered to pay it off and needed to know how much was owed. They asked me questions, layaway number, phone number attached to the lay away which I didn't have any of those so they searched by name. The amount owed is $557.74. I asked if it was for a tv. They stated yes. I asked how long it had been on lay away and was told it's less than 10 days old. Folks that's your hard earned donations at work.

OHHH Man!!!

I don't get it, I really don't. BTH I am just jumping off or starting w/ your post as it seemed logical to me for one of my questions. 1st off what gives any of us the right to go snooping in to somebody else's personal business like this. You admit that you lied to get the info you wanted. Does your lie (or my lie) mean anything different when it hits God's ear. I don't think so IMHO but that is just me. If you donated money to BD I can understand to a point but even w/that I can't understand how or why you feel like it is OK to lie about obtaining information on someone by fraudulant and deceitful means. How do any of us know that she did not put the TV on lay away w/ her own money and hope to get it off say from income tax refund. Those are due for ppl that filed early. And who are we to say that BD depression is not being manifested by spending more/shopping more. I know by being in the medical field that this is one of the many ways one might spot (or dx.) depression and I am sure she is depressed. Some will come back and say I am sure that she not to depressed about her daughter but we really don't know the inner workings of anyone's mind. Plus, Yes I will freely admit if everywhere I turned someone was putting me down, talking about me ect as viciously as they are her that in itself is enough to have to go for EST and any other aggressive therapy or tx. my MD rx'ed.

Another thing imo about BD I think she is plain stubborn especially when it comes to SA. I mean she is almost like a kid there. The more she is told how "bad" he is and that he killed or whatever he did to her daughter the more she is going to defend him. Sometimes one has to use reverse psyc. to get any results. Plus , If she admits now that SA did harm HD, then in my veiwpoint if it were me , I would then have to accept the fact that I am the one who brought this man into mine and my children's lives. What has happened to my judgement of character, am I really that far off base that I could not see how evil yhis man is/was. And last but not least , I would realize and have to finally accept the fact that what has happened to my daughter and by whom was caused by me and the GUILT would completely consume me and I would crawl into a fetal position and not be useful to anyone. I would not be able to be there for my sonor my other family. I could not help get out the word about Hailey. I would be completely useless to anyone. I would ask if it were me in BD's position right now for everyone to let me hold on to what hope I have, let me beleive that Hailey is alive and going to come home... just let me beleive and keep my faith for the time being because when they bring me Hailey's body then that would be it. I would have hels out as long as I could and now since she is gone and I was such a terrible mother to her David surely does not need me to mother him and someone else would do a much better job than I ever could . Just put me in a padded room or in the grave beside Hailey as that would be as far as I could go.

There is so much more that could be said but I will stop. It won't do any good. Nobody will ever beleive that BD really loves HD nor anything she says because she started off by lying accd'ing to some and continues to do so now but it is my belief that she just does not know what to say or do anymore because everything is discected until there is nothing left. I don't think Marc Klass' judgement in characters is so far off that he has been completely taken in by BD and nor have I IMO. Yes she definitly needs to change and improve some of her behaviors and communication skills but for this particular time in her journey through time I think that is all to late.

This is All JMO,MOHO,and MOO...
sweets

Sweets, pls re-read the post. I didn't find it or lie to anyone, it was sent to me in a PM and I was told it is also posted on HDOD and PH's blog

WRT Marc Klass........Ron Cummings=was a drug dealer, and now sits in jail for 15 yr mandatory minimum which should have been closer to 25 yrs. He married the POI, then when the heat was too much and all the donations dried up divorced her, only to find out they were selling drugs together, caught on video in a police sting, so Marc K sometimes is way off base. But you do bring up a great point wrt Marc, everytime I see him on TV he has two things he repeats, clear yourself with a LDT and the truth NEVER changes.

I also never stated she didn't love Hailey, she just loves Shawn more or put his needs, desires and wants above hers.

I also feel I can state MO as to how one acts upon learning the person they brought into there life hurt someone, my ex who was the "perfect man in the eyes of everyone who knew him, never missed a day in church, shuttered if I said Fruk and was CEO of a fortune 500 company" fooled alot of people.....so when our 3 yr old son told me he touched him on his privates I was sure it had to be a mistake, but I still stopped all contact until I was certain, and I found out my son was telling he truth, did it make me want to crawl in a hole and never come out, it sure did-but I was mad as hell and determined to seek justice and to assure his safety from that day forward. 8 yrs have past and he has never seen his son since, last all rights in court after a 2 yr battle and has no clue where we even live, so I kinda know how it feels. Granted he didn't kill his son, he did kill his innocence and destroy his soul, and if he had done the ultimate horror beyond what he did, well rest assured he'd no longer be walking this earth, he'd be answering to a higher power. I guess I am like a other bear, you touch or harm my child and not only will you pay for it, you will live a hell on earth everyday of the miserable life that is left.

Sorry if that sounds harsh, I happen to think most parents would react the same way.......well almost all

sweets said: "1st off what gives any of us the right to go snooping in to somebody else's personal business like this. You admit that you lied to get the info you wanted. Does your lie (or my lie) mean anything different when it hits God's ear."

boston lady said: "Sweets, the Police are allowed to lie to suspects to gather information. (yes I know they are the police) But, sometimes, things are done to gather information that may not seem to be above board."

I have to say that boston_lady, IMO, you are being hypocritical. And the ends do not justify the means. How is it OK for you, or anyone else, to use any means necessary to try and make a horrible situation worse for someone? It is OK for people to lie to make Billie look bad, but it is not OK for Billie to tell the truth about what someone has said or done?

I want to know if calling under false pretenses and getting information is in any way criminal. I think I will ask one of the DA investigators. I know that Alco saves the numbers that come in... and only a few people work there. Thankfully, they more than likely would remember when such a call came in... and IMO it happened tonight, or it would have been posted already. Maybe not, but like I said, such a call would be remembered. Huh. What's good for the goose is good for the gander and all that.

And bringthemhome, I really think that you are jaded. You said yourself that after following cases for years, you have seen how awful they have become, and how you 'expect' people to act and react. Plus you have said that you went through some awful stuff yourself. I think that you expect the worst out of everyone, and that is why it is so easy for you to believe every awful thing anyone says about Billie, and just as easily discount anything postive that you hear. Again, this is JMO, and I mean no disrespect. I think it is sad to have to live that way, not being able to trust anyone or see the good in anyone.

Wrapitup wrote:I agree. As an ex PI, I did the little devious things to get to the truth, Sweets. If SA did in fact muder Hailey, I think it's time Billie wake up out of that fog she is in and see SA for what he really is. I certainly won't make excuses for her. I don't know her personally (Thank God!) but what I have seen of her on NG and in the news, I am not a fan. I think she is in this up to her eyeballs in some fashion..just not sure how yet. MOO.

I applaud BringThemHome!!

LOL~I am sneaky enough and enough of a biatch to do whatever it took legally to find answers, including the above...but someone did it for me this time, so hat's off to them!

CZ I will try and answer your questions. I am not interested in "how" she paid for a 55 inch tv and could care less.

What does give me pause is this sudden interest in decorating. If my child was missing the last thing I would be doing is accepting furniture..donated or given free into my house. I would not have the strength to paint my walls to match the new couch and I surely would not spend my time running to Alco to lay away a tv.

Doesn't any of that concern you? How can you possible befriend a cold uncaring person like that.

Then the Red Car. When gnreed said there was a red car in Billies garage/driveway you immediately sprung to Billies defense and said it is not running..it was bought for DD..and they are going to work on it.

You never came back to answer the tough questions many asked.

Today the car is missing and you say...I don't know.

Well what is it? How does Billie have time for all this decorating and buying and how did the car licensed to a convicted felon..appear and disappear from her home?

I bet we won't hear from you now.

pepperann, the only thing I have ever asked for is a casserole rotation. I asked a grand total of two ladies if they wanted to take a hot supper to Billie's house (and this is when David was still there). Several other women approached me and asked if they could take part in it.

I did in fact call the bank and have an account set up early on for Billie, but it was only because people were asking me if I would take cash to her. I did not want to do that for several reasons, but the main one being that I was afraid that if I took, say $20 from someone, that they would end up saying 'wait, I gave you $50'. No way an I going to get messed up in something like that.

missy1974 wrote:bringthemhome - the money... first off I will say I'm Canadian LOL so I am not 100% sure about things down there. But BD did have a job when this happened, it's very possible that she is using vacation time, sick time, and I remember hearing at the beginning of this that coworkers were able to donate some of their own time off to her. I believe it's also possible that she would have soem other benefits available to her as well. ( I know here, most people with good benefits would be able to get short and/or long term disability due to stress)
I have followed a lot of missing children cases, including the Cummings case, and I totally understand what you mean about families profitting off of their missing children. I don't think that it should be assumed that any money BD spends was donated though. MOO

Seems there are alot of accusations going on in this case, with nothing to really back it up other than someone said they seen this or that, or heard this or that. I have been reading on a lot of the facebook pages, and it seems that this dinner last night was a disaster, and the video that was shown had not much to do about Hailey at all. And that is the saddest part about this whole mess. JMO

I understand that perception but I have also talked with those she worked with and I doubt many are donating their time off..maybe in the beginning but not after the messages and info I have. They won't say much more due to the fact they were told to keep their mouth shut for now, same as at Shawn's employer. Also as someone who worked for a Canadian company here I promise you, y'all have far better benefits and time off than companies based in the states, I had 6 weeks paid vacation my first yr...here, you get 1 wk the first yr, 2 wks after that until you hit 5 yrs and then you generally get about 3 weeks, totally unlike Canada.

I have no reason to doubt it was some type of gift/donation but why not put that towards David's education, or something for the kids, how about reward money?? It is just so selfish IMO to out our own needs ahead of our kids......JMO

czgtz wrote:pepperann, the only thing I have ever asked for is a casserole rotation. I asked a grand total of two ladies if they wanted to take a hot supper to Billie's house (and this is when David was still there). Several other women approached me and asked if they could take part in it.

I did in fact call the bank and have an account set up early on for Billie, but it was only because people were asking me if I would take cash to her. I did not want to do that for several reasons, but the main one being that I was afraid that if I took, say $20 from someone, that they would end up saying 'wait, I gave you $50'. No way an I going to get messed up in something like that.

So your story changes again. First you said you were never involved in asking for money. But when you were called on it your story changed.

What is it CZ. The truth will set you free.

And while we are on it. Are any members of your family involved in the drug business as suggested up thread. Husband..yourself...? If you say no..I will look further into it. If you don't answer..then I will know that that means too.

You really hooked yourself up with a winner in BD. Remember.. When you lay with garbage you start to smell.

czgtz wrote:sweets said: "1st off what gives any of us the right to go snooping in to somebody else's personal business like this. You admit that you lied to get the info you wanted. Does your lie (or my lie) mean anything different when it hits God's ear."

boston lady said: "Sweets, the Police are allowed to lie to suspects to gather information. (yes I know they are the police) But, sometimes, things are done to gather information that may not seem to be above board."

I have to say that boston_lady, IMO, you are being hypocritical. And the ends do not justify the means. How is it OK for you, or anyone else, to use any means necessary to try and make a horrible situation worse for someone? It is OK for people to lie to make Billie look bad, but it is not OK for Billie to tell the truth about what someone has said or done?

I want to know if calling under false pretenses and getting information is in any way criminal. I think I will ask one of the DA investigators. I know that Alco saves the numbers that come in... and only a few people work there. Thankfully, they more than likely would remember when such a call came in... and IMO it happened tonight, or it would have been posted already. Maybe not, but like I said, such a call would be remembered. Huh. What's good for the goose is good for the gander and all that.

And bringthemhome, I really think that you are jaded. You said yourself that after following cases for years, you have seen how awful they have become, and how you 'expect' people to act and react. Plus you have said that you went through some awful stuff yourself. I think that you expect the worst out of everyone, and that is why it is so easy for you to believe every awful thing anyone says about Billie, and just as easily discount anything postive that you hear. Again, this is JMO, and I mean no disrespect. I think it is sad to have to live that way, not being able to trust anyone or see the good in anyone.

WRT the one that called, she called or I should say he/she as I don't know the gender of the person, but they offered to pay it off, so they didn't misrepresent themselves so I see no crime. Also, BL is correct, LE can lie all they want to anyone to get information when a life is on the line, or justice in this case.

Regarding my being jaded.....highly possible after my experience, but IMO better jaded and safe than have my child dead in a field or behind my neighborhood covered in a few ft of water. Also when you have followed enough cases you see a pattern, single mother or sometimes fathers who disregard their kids desires and needs and put their own first. Start with Caylee, HaLeigh, Zahra, Kyron, Shaniya and I could go on for days.....facts are facts and the reality is whena child is missing/dead it is almost always the parent, step parent , BF or GF.....there are random cases where it is a stranger but they are few and far between.

missy1974 wrote:bringthemhome - the money... first off I will say I'm Canadian LOL so I am not 100% sure about things down there. But BD did have a job when this happened, it's very possible that she is using vacation time, sick time, and I remember hearing at the beginning of this that coworkers were able to donate some of their own time off to her. I believe it's also possible that she would have soem other benefits available to her as well. ( I know here, most people with good benefits would be able to get short and/or long term disability due to stress)
I have followed a lot of missing children cases, including the Cummings case, and I totally understand what you mean about families profitting off of their missing children. I don't think that it should be assumed that any money BD spends was donated though. MOO

Seems there are alot of accusations going on in this case, with nothing to really back it up other than someone said they seen this or that, or heard this or that. I have been reading on a lot of the facebook pages, and it seems that this dinner last night was a disaster, and the video that was shown had not much to do about Hailey at all. And that is the saddest part about this whole mess. JMO

Above BBM.. If this were infact true{and IMO just as you stated above it is common and would be quite common for a job with benefits and a fairly lengthy history/time spent employed by the company/hospital}..one of my close friends child had a long battle with a brain tumor that he eventually succumbed to..so she took all of her saved up time off with pay to have an income during those months in the hospital as well as after he was buried..She kept 100% pay and benefits for 75% of her leave from work and she received 75% pay and benefits the remaining 25% of the leave from work{hhmm..thanks for reminding me of this}..

My reason to reply is to say that if indeed that is the case with Billie what you stated above and I further detailed about pay/benefits..that Billie most likely would be still receiving quite a large percentage of her income if not 100% of it..and if so well she's really a selfish B***h..because then why in the bloody hell would she be accepting a dime of donations and directing them instead to a search fund.. but nope not Billie she's receiving grants to cover her entire month's bills along with many many donations{and re:cz statement asking do we think she's going and getting her hands on money that is an a set up account not specifically for Billie}..Of course we don't think that..she's getting her own donations given to her on a silver platter and she's using the extra funds{after bills are paid}for selfish gain..only par for the course IMO..

jeanne1807 wrote:CZ I will try and answer your questions. I am not interested in "how" she paid for a 55 inch tv and could care less.

What does give me pause is this sudden interest in decorating. If my child was missing the last thing I would be doing is accepting furniture..donated or given free into my house. I would not have the strength to paint my walls to match the new couch and I surely would not spend my time running to Alco to lay away a tv.

Doesn't any of that concern you? How can you possible befriend a cold uncaring person like that.

Then the Red Car. When gnreed said there was a red car in Billies garage/driveway you immediately sprung to Billies defense and said it is not running..it was bought for DD..and they are going to work on it.

You never came back to answer the tough questions many asked.

Today the car is missing and you say...I don't know.

Well what is it? How does Billie have time for all this decorating and buying and how did the car licensed to a convicted felon..appear and disappear from her home?

I bet we won't hear from you now.

I already posted what I know about the car. You can reread my posts if you want to.

As for painting...... why do you care? Yes, she is painting. Big deal.

None of it concerns me. Billie is not cold and uncaring, and we have been friends for a long time.

And, BBM - why are you trying so hard to run me off?

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Genesse Driver
this was on the BD and SA are guilty page posted by one of the Angels

Hailey's Angels And FYI...I saw Billie Jean Dunn leaving Shawn Adkins house with roses on Valentine's Day...does she care...nope, and we have been out searching for Hailey everyday...and he is also staying with her in C-City...that just shows that this woman cares no...thing for her daughter...IMO

As for painting...... why do you care? Yes, she is painting. Big deal.

I wouldn't be able to lift a tube of mascara, much less a paint brush, if my child or grandchild were missing.

by bringthemhome Today at 12:37 amWRT the one that called, she called or I should say he/she as I don't know the gender of the person, but they offered to pay it off, so they didn't misrepresent themselves so I see no crime. Also, BL is correct, LE can lie all they want to anyone to get information when a life is on the line, or justice in this case.

bringthemhome wrote:Well, someone sent me a PM about the TV on layaway at Alco......wow, sickening how profitable having a missing child becomes

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Only one of those questions can be verified and that's about the tv. I personally called Alco this am. No I wasn't honest with them but they answered my question. When they answered I said I needed to check on a lay away. That Billie Dunn had a lay away and I had offered to pay it off and needed to know how much was owed. They asked me questions, layaway number, phone number attached to the lay away which I didn't have any of those so they searched by name. The amount owed is $557.74. I asked if it was for a tv. They stated yes. I asked how long it had been on lay away and was told it's less than 10 days old. Folks that's your hard earned donations at work.

BBM... yeah, IMO, they did misrepresent themselves. They admitted they weren't honest, and had no intention of paying it off. They called only to be nosy and repeat what they learned. And since it is a financial matter, I bet there is something criminal about it. For instance.... they got the info under false pretenses. It would be a crime to pay a portion of the balance that someone else had paid down and take the merchandise. Theft. I am not sure class it is for theft over $500. But I can let you know tomorrow.

Ok Crime Sluethers..here's a question.

When was the last time a woman was missing her child and she:

1. Layed with the prime suspect
2. Refurnished her living room
3. Painted her walls
4. Bought a new 55 inch tv

5. Had a red sports car licensed to a convicted felon,
drug charges parked in her driveway.
6. Went to a Memorial service and argued with all the
searchers.

Maybe it is me but I find all of this..unusual?

czgtz wrote:

WRT the one that called, she called or I should say he/she as I don't know the gender of the person, but they offered to pay it off, so they didn't misrepresent themselves so I see no crime. Also, BL is correct, LE can lie all they want to anyone to get information when a life is on the line, or justice in this case.

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bringthemhome wrote:Well, someone sent me a PM about the TV on layaway at Alco......wow, sickening how profitable having a missing child becomes

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Only one of those questions can be verified and that's about the tv. I personally called Alco this am. No I wasn't honest with them but they answered my question. When they answered I said I needed to check on a lay away. That Billie Dunn had a lay away and I had offered to pay it off and needed to know how much was owed. They asked me questions, layaway number, phone number attached to the lay away which I didn't have any of those so they searched by name. The amount owed is $557.74. I asked if it was for a tv. They stated yes. I asked how long it had been on lay away and was told it's less than 10 days old. Folks that's your hard earned donations at work.

BBM... yeah, IMO, they did misrepresent themselves. They admitted they weren't honest, and had no intention of paying it off. They called only to be nosy and repeat what they learned. And since it is a financial matter, I bet there is something criminal about it. For instance.... they got the info under false pretenses. It would be a crime to pay a portion of the balance that someone else had paid down and take the merchandise. Theft. I am not sure class it is for theft over $500. But I can let you know tomorrow.[/quote]

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Here's a clue. Instead of spending your time investigating bloggers hows about investigating the one sitting next to you. I think there you will find the answers.

We aren't the enemy.

Sorry. First post here.
People who are depressed are not out buying themselves five foot, flat screen tvs and putting them in layaway. If you don't recognize the symptoms of depression, here they are:

-difficulty concentrating, remembering details, and making decisions
-fatigue and decreased energy
-feelings of guilt, worthlessness, and/or helplessness
-feelings of hopelessness and/or pessimism
-insomnia, early-morning wakefulness, or excessive sleeping
-irritability, restlessness
-loss of interest in activities or hobbies once pleasurable, including sex
-overeating or appetite loss
-persistent aches or pains, headaches, cramps, or digestive problems that do not ease even with treatment
-persistent sad, anxious, or "empty" feelings
-thoughts of suicide, suicide attempts

Nope. Shopping excursions do not fit in with simple OR Major Depression.

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Genesse Driver
this was on the BD and SA are guilty page posted by one of the Angels

Hailey's Angels And FYI...I saw Billie Jean Dunn leaving Shawn Adkins house with roses on Valentine's Day...does she care...nope, and we have been out searching for Hailey everyday...and he is also staying with her in C-City...that just shows that this woman cares no...thing for her daughter...IMO

I have seen comments on facebook, and on here, stating they have seen SA with BD, BD got roses, SA is in the van, SA is staying there. In this day and age, NOT one picture???? really??? no cell phones with a camera? digital camera's? not one? Not one member of the media has been able to 'catch' this yet? I know it sounds bad, but seriously, if I lived there, and was concerned enough about it to post it to Facebook or a forum.... dang right I would have taken a picture! Not saying that it's not true, because I really don't know... but ... just sayin' ....

JMO

PeterfromTexas!! Welcome!

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Marilynn Wilkins as someone pointed out,she can't stomach the reality of that, but she can watch that crap that was SA's "hobby"
about an hour ago

You should realize, xxxxxxxx, that if patients who were in pain and under the care of BD realize that they may not have been given all the drugs they were ordered, there will be a major investigative stink at the hospital. Yes, even if she last had patients in her care two years ago. If you worked with her and shared the narcotic keys with her, your license and position will also be reviewed.

missy1974 wrote:

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Genesse Driver
this was on the BD and SA are guilty page posted by one of the Angels

Hailey's Angels And FYI...I saw Billie Jean Dunn leaving Shawn Adkins house with roses on Valentine's Day...does she care...nope, and we have been out searching for Hailey everyday...and he is also staying with her in C-City...that just shows that this woman cares no...thing for her daughter...IMO

I have seen comments on facebook, and on here, stating they have seen SA with BD, BD got roses, SA is in the van, SA is staying there. In this day and age, NOT one picture???? really??? no cell phones with a camera? digital camera's? not one? Not one member of the media has been able to 'catch' this yet? I know it sounds bad, but seriously, if I lived there, and was concerned enough about it to post it to Facebook or a forum.... dang right I would have taken a picture! Not saying that it's not true, because I really don't know... but ... just sayin' ....

JMO

You know that's a very good point. Maybe some of our members that post over there would be kind enough to suggest that to the FB members. I too would love to see a shot.

And you are right. Pictures are everywhere. Cameras and phones.

Can somebody please ask for some pictures when they post the comments.

Welcome Peter

PeterfromTexas wrote:You should realize, xxxxxxxx, that if patients who were in pain and under the care of BD realize that they may not have been given all the drugs they were ordered, there will be a major investigative stink at the hospital. Yes, even if she last had patients in her care two years ago. If you worked with her and shared the narcotic keys with her, your license and position will also be reviewed.

Yes that hospital could be in real trouble. Who is xxxxxxxx?

jeanne1807 wrote:

PeterfromTexas wrote:You should realize, xxxxxxxx, that if patients who were in pain and under the care of BD realize that they may not have been given all the drugs they were ordered, there will be a major investigative stink at the hospital. Yes, even if she last had patients in her care two years ago. If you worked with her and shared the narcotic keys with her, your license and position will also be reviewed.

Yes that hospital could be in real trouble. Who is xxxxxxxxx?

She is listed in the article above posted by Pepperann that talks about "donations" for Billie. She is also posting tonight. Check the initials with the name of the volunteer.

czgtz wrote:

by bringthemhome Today at 12:37 amWRT the one that called, she called or I should say he/she as I don't know the gender of the person, but they offered to pay it off, so they didn't misrepresent themselves so I see no crime. Also, BL is correct, LE can lie all they want to anyone to get information when a life is on the line, or justice in this case.

bringthemhome wrote:Well, someone sent me a PM about the TV on layaway at Alco......wow, sickening how profitable having a missing child becomes

XXXXXXXXXX

Only one of those questions can be verified and that's about the tv. I personally called Alco this am. No I wasn't honest with them but they answered my question. When they answered I said I needed to check on a lay away. That Billie Dunn had a lay away and I had offered to pay it off and needed to know how much was owed. They asked me questions, layaway number, phone number attached to the lay away which I didn't have any of those so they searched by name. The amount owed is $557.74. I asked if it was for a tv. They stated yes. I asked how long it had been on lay away and was told it's less than 10 days old. Folks that's your hard earned donations at work.

BBM... yeah, IMO, they did misrepresent themselves. They admitted they weren't honest, and had no intention of paying it off. They called only to be nosy and repeat what they learned. And since it is a financial matter, I bet there is something criminal about it. For instance.... they got the info under false pretenses. It would be a crime to pay a portion of the balance that someone else had paid down and take the merchandise. Theft. I am not sure class it is for theft over $500. But I can let you know tomorrow.

I meant represent themselves as being Billie.....I can see where someone would want to help her, then read the net and change their mind. They did call to be nosy and I don't think you will fin anything criminal about that. I don't think they have any intention of taking her precious tv, they were trying to figure out if the rumor was true and indeed it was......I am shocked that you knew nothing about it as good of a friend as you are. I rarely make high dollar purchases without sharing my excitement with family and friends, but then again I also use my tax return money to pay off my car or put towards my children's college rather than indlgences when I have no job.....heck, I don't even do it now and I have a great job, my kids future comes first. Good luck in your quest to find out if someone commited a crime, now if you'd show that much initiative in trying to out what happened to Hailey and do it with the same vigor we'd all applaud you I can guarantee!!!!!! :cheering: :cheering:

jeanne1807 wrote:

czgtz wrote:pepperann, the only thing I have ever asked for is a casserole rotation. I asked a grand total of two ladies if they wanted to take a hot supper to Billie's house (and this is when David was still there). Several other women approached me and asked if they could take part in it.

I did in fact call the bank and have an account set up early on for Billie, but it was only because people were asking me if I would take cash to her. I did not want to do that for several reasons, but the main one being that I was afraid that if I took, say $20 from someone, that they would end up saying 'wait, I gave you $50'. No way an I going to get messed up in something like that.

So your story changes again. First you said you were never involved in asking for money. But when you were called on it your story changed.

What is it CZ. The truth will set you free.

And while we are on it. Are any members of your family involved in the drug business as suggested up thread. Husband..yourself...? If you say no..I will look further into it. If you don't answer..then I will know that that means too.

You really hooked yourself up with a winner in BD. Remember.. When you lay with garbage you start to smell.

Maybe you should reread my post. I never asked anyone for money. I set the account up so when people asked me how to get money to Billie, I could direct them to the account. Lots of people know that I am Billie's friend, and want to help. I did not want to take cash from anyone. And I never asked anyone to donate to Billie, I only said that there was an account set up. Please don't imply that I am a liar.

I asked more than once who was supposedly selling drugs in my family. No one would answer me. I find it surprisingly funny that no one who was shown this 'verified' info will grow a pair and tell me the name of the person. IMO, I am being attacked by default simply because I am standing by Billie, and since I have not run away from the hatefulness, I am going to get direct attacks. I am not going to slink away with my tail between my legs because I am not doing anything illegal. So you go ahead and look into it.

I tell you what jeanne - I would rather have 100 friends like Billie than one like you. IMO, you seem to be a bitter person who leads a sad existence.... I think that the only way you feel good about yourself is by trying to bring others down. Again, this is JMO, MOO, IMO, etc.

PeterfromTexas wrote:

jeanne1807 wrote:

PeterfromTexas wrote:You should realize, xxxxxxxx, that if patients who were in pain and under the care of BD realize that they may not have been given all the drugs they were ordered, there will be a major investigative stink at the hospital. Yes, even if she last had patients in her care two years ago. If you worked with her and shared the narcotic keys with her, your license and position will also be reviewed.

Yes that hospital could be in real trouble. Who is xxxxxxxx?

She is listed in the article above posted by Pepperann that talks about "donations" for Billie. She is also posting tonight. Check the initials with the name of the volunteer.

Here is the article:
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jeanne1807 wrote:

missy1974 wrote:

jeanne1807 wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Genesse Driver
this was on the BD and SA are guilty page posted by one of the Angels

Hailey's Angels And FYI...I saw Billie Jean Dunn leaving Shawn Adkins house with roses on Valentine's Day...does she care...nope, and we have been out searching for Hailey everyday...and he is also staying with her in C-City...that just shows that this woman cares no...thing for her daughter...IMO

I have seen comments on facebook, and on here, stating they have seen SA with BD, BD got roses, SA is in the van, SA is staying there. In this day and age, NOT one picture???? really??? no cell phones with a camera? digital camera's? not one? Not one member of the media has been able to 'catch' this yet? I know it sounds bad, but seriously, if I lived there, and was concerned enough about it to post it to Facebook or a forum.... dang right I would have taken a picture! Not saying that it's not true, because I really don't know... but ... just sayin' ....

JMO

You know that's a very good point. Maybe some of our members that post over there would be kind enough to suggest that to the FB members. I too would love to see a shot.

And you are right. Pictures are everywhere. Cameras and phones.

Can somebody please ask for some pictures when they post the comments.

Welcome Peter

I have pictures of the red sportscar at the house, but the one who took them begged me not to post them.....they fear for their life. I will send them to Wrap to prove it though.

I unbanned the person who was making those allegations.

Jeanne is the complete opposite of what you just described.

jeanne1807 wrote:

PeterfromTexas wrote:You should realize, xxxxxxxx, that if patients who were in pain and under the care of BD realize that they may not have been given all the drugs they were ordered, there will be a major investigative stink at the hospital. Yes, even if she last had patients in her care two years ago. If you worked with her and shared the narcotic keys with her, your license and position will also be reviewed.

Yes that hospital could be in real trouble. Who is xxxxxxxx?

Just a guess.......

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] xxxxxxxxx.

Could be wrong.....jus sayin

bringthemhome wrote:

czgtz wrote:

by bringthemhome Today at 12:37 amWRT the one that called, she called or I should say he/she as I don't know the gender of the person, but they offered to pay it off, so they didn't misrepresent themselves so I see no crime. Also, BL is correct, LE can lie all they want to anyone to get information when a life is on the line, or justice in this case.

bringthemhome wrote:Well, someone sent me a PM about the TV on layaway at Alco......wow, sickening how profitable having a missing child becomes

XXXXXXXXXX

Only one of those questions can be verified and that's about the tv. I personally called Alco this am. No I wasn't honest with them but they answered my question. When they answered I said I needed to check on a lay away. That Billie Dunn had a lay away and I had offered to pay it off and needed to know how much was owed. They asked me questions, layaway number, phone number attached to the lay away which I didn't have any of those so they searched by name. The amount owed is $557.74. I asked if it was for a tv. They stated yes. I asked how long it had been on lay away and was told it's less than 10 days old. Folks that's your hard earned donations at work.

BBM... yeah, IMO, they did misrepresent themselves. They admitted they weren't honest, and had no intention of paying it off. They called only to be nosy and repeat what they learned. And since it is a financial matter, I bet there is something criminal about it. For instance.... they got the info under false pretenses. It would be a crime to pay a portion of the balance that someone else had paid down and take the merchandise. Theft. I am not sure class it is for theft over $500. But I can let you know tomorrow.

I meant represent themselves as being Billie.....I can see where someone would want to help her, then read the net and change their mind. They did call to be nosy and I don't think you will fin anything criminal about that. I don't think they have any intention of taking her precious tv, they were trying to figure out if the rumor was true and indeed it was......I am shocked that you knew nothing about it as good of a friend as you are. I rarely make high dollar purchases without sharing my excitement with family and friends, but then again I also use my tax return money to pay off my car or put towards my children's college rather than indlgences when I have no job.....heck, I don't even do it now and I have a great job, my kids future comes first. Good luck in your quest to find out if someone commited a crime, now if you'd show that much initiative in trying to out what happened to Hailey and do it with the same vigor we'd all applaud you I can guarantee!!!!!! :cheering: :cheering:

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BBM

I could say the same thing about many of you. If those who are determined to crucify Billie spent one tenth of the amount of time concentrating on Hailey as trying to drag up dirt on Billie, maybe she would have been found by now.

When you ask for the narcotic keys to fetch necessary meds for your patients, xxxxxxxx, are the other nurses starting to look a bit concerned? When the count is off and you are known to be supporting BD, you will likely be blamed regardless of the circumstance. Better realize this because it is just human nature to attribute blame to those that draw suspicion.

If you want to quote a statement made by another person.

1. Copy the persons name and what you want to quote.
2. Paste it in your comment box.
3. Run your cursor over the text while holding your left mouse button down; it will turn blue.
4. Click on
5. When you click on Send the quote will be in a bubble.

I'm having a real hard time figuring out who said what on this thread because the quotes aren't done properly. I have to keep going up thread to clarify who some of the statements originally came from. I'm sure you are all confused, too.

Example of what a quote done properly should look like. There is no question about made the statement below. It was our Fearless Leader, Wrap:

by Wrapitup I agree. As an ex PI, I did the little devious things to get to the truth, Sweets. If SA did in fact muder Hailey, I think it's time Billie wake up out of that fog she is in and see SA for what he really is. I certainly won't make excuses for her. I don't know her personally (Thank God!) but what I have seen of her on NG and in the news, I am not a fan. I think she is in this up to her eyeballs in some fashion..just not sure how yet. MOO.

CZ~
No one can pull up the posts where you clearly asked for donations for Billie..setting up the fund..and more posts requesting donations..

Can't be pulled up by anyone but WS mods..As those posts were pulled from public view the minute the affidavits came out and for the first time we all saw the truth in blk/white on court docs.. Clearly painting a picture that no one in their right mind would allow themselves or their site to be associated with the type of person that it was learned that this "mom" of Hailey's is..

so unfortunately we can't read them for the very thing you're denying was in them.{YOUR ASKING FOR DONATIONS..SOLICITING DONATIONS FOR BILLIE IN THE FORUMS}..you did state it and its the reason they were pulled..But if ever any criminal matter may arise and proof was needed the posts can be obtained by any mod/owner of the site and handed over to prove so.

bringthemhome wrote:

jeanne1807 wrote:

PeterfromTexas wrote:You should realize, xxxxxxxxx, that if patients who were in pain and under the care of BD realize that they may not have been given all the drugs they were ordered, there will be a major investigative stink at the hospital. Yes, even if she last had patients in her care two years ago. If you worked with her and shared the narcotic keys with her, your license and position will also be reviewed.

Yes that hospital could be in real trouble. Who is xxxxxxxx?

Just a guess.......

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] xxxxxxxxx.

Could be wrong.....jus sayin

All the pieces fit, don't they?

czgtz wrote:

bringthemhome wrote:

czgtz wrote:

by bringthemhome Today at 12:37 amWRT the one that called, she called or I should say he/she as I don't know the gender of the person, but they offered to pay it off, so they didn't misrepresent themselves so I see no crime. Also, BL is correct, LE can lie all they want to anyone to get information when a life is on the line, or justice in this case.

bringthemhome wrote:Well, someone sent me a PM about the TV on layaway at Alco......wow, sickening how profitable having a missing child becomes

XXXXXXXXXX

Only one of those questions can be verified and that's about the tv. I personally called Alco this am. No I wasn't honest with them but they answered my question. When they answered I said I needed to check on a lay away. That Billie Dunn had a lay away and I had offered to pay it off and needed to know how much was owed. They asked me questions, layaway number, phone number attached to the lay away which I didn't have any of those so they searched by name. The amount owed is $557.74. I asked if it was for a tv. They stated yes. I asked how long it had been on lay away and was told it's less than 10 days old. Folks that's your hard earned donations at work.

BBM... yeah, IMO, they did misrepresent themselves. They admitted they weren't honest, and had no intention of paying it off. They called only to be nosy and repeat what they learned. And since it is a financial matter, I bet there is something criminal about it. For instance.... they got the info under false pretenses. It would be a crime to pay a portion of the balance that someone else had paid down and take the merchandise. Theft. I am not sure class it is for theft over $500. But I can let you know tomorrow.

I meant represent themselves as being Billie.....I can see where someone would want to help her, then read the net and change their mind. They did call to be nosy and I don't think you will fin anything criminal about that. I don't think they have any intention of taking her precious tv, they were trying to figure out if the rumor was true and indeed it was......I am shocked that you knew nothing about it as good of a friend as you are. I rarely make high dollar purchases without sharing my excitement with family and friends, but then again I also use my tax return money to pay off my car or put towards my children's college rather than indlgences when I have no job.....heck, I don't even do it now and I have a great job, my kids future comes first. Good luck in your quest to find out if someone commited a crime, now if you'd show that much initiative in trying to out what happened to Hailey and do it with the same vigor we'd all applaud you I can guarantee!!!!!! :cheering: :cheering:

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BBM

I could say the same thing about many of you. If those who are determined to crucify Billie spent one tenth of the amount of time concentrating on Hailey as trying to drag up dirt on Billie, maybe she would have been found by now.

The answers to finding the child generally lead to the dysfunctional family dynamics sadly....no need to crucify her, if she was forthright in the beginning she wouldn't have done it herself, not to mention by continuing her relationship with the suspect.

PeterfromTexas wrote:When you ask for the narcotic keys to fetch necessary meds for your patients, xxxxxxxx, are the other nurses starting to look a bit concerned? When the count is off and you are known to be supporting BD, you will likely be blamed regardless of the circumstance. Better realize this because it is just human nature to attribute blame to those that draw suspicion.

Welcome Peter, I look forward to your insight. One thing I have always found odd was when Billie got a ride home from work with her sister in law she stated they had no cell phone...well, they must be about the only one over 12 w/o a phone. I just found that odd IMO that even the SIL didn't have one either :tongue in chee

bringthemhome wrote:Well, someone sent me a PM about the TV on layaway at Alco......wow, sickening how profitable having a missing child becomes

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Only one of those questions can be verified and that's about the tv. I personally called Alco this am. No I wasn't honest with them but they answered my question. When they answered I said I needed to check on a lay away. That Billie Dunn had a lay away and I had offered to pay it off and needed to know how much was owed. They asked me questions, layaway number, phone number attached to the lay away which I didn't have any of those so they searched by name. The amount owed is $557.74. I asked if it was for a tv. They stated yes. I asked how long it had been on lay away and was told it's less than 10 days old. Folks that's your hard earned donations at work.

OK BTH I tried to highlight the portion where you said you called alco and if I misunderstood I apologize. Yes I know the LE can lie and just about anything else to get what they want but you/he/she/or me are not LE. And even if they (whoever) called and this is not their case then it was seill be info obtained by illegal means. I don't agree w/ everything BD has done, said, acted out or whatever but if we would all go back and read our own and others posts I think the putrid vile and hate that is spewed forth about BD none of us would beleive we were/are the type of ppl that does this type of thing. We are more refined and of the upper echelon class of ppl. I don;t know, maybe I just cannot bare to see someone kicked over and over and over when they are already down. It just does not give me any enjoyment nor satisfaction.

As far as being a mama bear you better beleive I am and nobody better even attempt to do harm to mine or true fury will be seen, felt heard and any other verb you can attach to it. Anyway. I am not going to argue the point anymore as it does no one any good and does not bring Hailey back and besides that I can't type fast enough to get to all of the critisims that would be thrown at me....lol

jmo
sweets

PeterfromTexas wrote:

bringthemhome wrote:

jeanne1807 wrote:

PeterfromTexas wrote:You should realize, xxxxxxxx, that if patients who were in pain and under the care of BD realize that they may not have been given all the drugs they were ordered, there will be a major investigative stink at the hospital. Yes, even if she last had patients in her care two years ago. If you worked with her and shared the narcotic keys with her, your license and position will also be reviewed.

Yes that hospital could be in real trouble. Who is xxxxxxxx?

Just a guess.......

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] xxxxxxxxx.

Could be wrong.....jus sayin

All the pieces fit, don't they?

Thanks for the confirmation

sweets wrote:

bringthemhome wrote:Well, someone sent me a PM about the TV on layaway at Alco......wow, sickening how profitable having a missing child becomes

XXXXXXXXXX

Only one of those questions can be verified and that's about the tv. I personally called Alco this am. No I wasn't honest with them but they answered my question. When they answered I said I needed to check on a lay away. That Billie Dunn had a lay away and I had offered to pay it off and needed to know how much was owed. They asked me questions, layaway number, phone number attached to the lay away which I didn't have any of those so they searched by name. The amount owed is $557.74. I asked if it was for a tv. They stated yes. I asked how long it had been on lay away and was told it's less than 10 days old. Folks that's your hard earned donations at work.

OK BTH I tried to highlight the portion where you said you called alco and if I misunderstood I apologize. Yes I know the LE can lie and just about anything else to get what they want but you/he/she/or me are not LE. And even if they (whoever) called and this is not their case then it was seill be info obtained by illegal means. I don't agree w/ everything BD has done, said, acted out or whatever but if we would all go back and read our own and others posts I think the putrid vile and hate that is spewed forth about BD none of us would beleive we were/are the type of ppl that does this type of thing. We are more refined and of the upper echelon class of ppl. I don;t know, maybe I just cannot bare to see someone kicked over and over and over when they are already down. It just does not give me any enjoyment nor satisfaction.

As far as being a mama bear you better beleive I am and nobody better even attempt to do harm to mine or true fury will be seen, felt heard and any other verb you can attach to it. Anyway. I am not going to argue the point anymore as it does no one any good and does not bring Hailey back and besides that I can't type fast enough to get to all of the critisims that would be thrown at me....lol

jmo
sweets

No need to apologize, I XXX out the name of the one who sent me the PM...don't know why as it's all over the net now, but I didn't want the name of the one who sent it to me attached even though they were ok with it. See, I never stated I called, I posted the message as I rec'd it.