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Post by Guest Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:17 am

artgal16 wrote:How in the world did she pay a cash bail of 1.1 million dollars - or did they reduce the bail amount?

Tammi Smith: I will look for this baby for the rest of my life
by Catherine Holland


Posted on February 3, 2010 at 7:19 AM
Updated today at 7:37 AM


PHOENIX -- Once a person of interest in the Baby Gabriel case, Tammi Smith is out of jail this morning after posting $15,000 bond. Police arrested Smith Tuesday morning on charges of conspiracy to commit custodial interference, custodial interference and forgery.

http://www.azfamily.com/home/related/Tammi-Smith-I-will-look-for-this-baby-for-the-rest-of-my-life-83436867.html

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Post by artgal16 Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:19 am

Amazing that her stupid husband would say forgery wasnt a "big deal" -these people are dirty and the police know it. They really cant charge her husband with anything and with her facing all the blame, and
considering that she has a business in that city, she should crack. I wonder if there are a lot of couples
shaking in their boots right now because Tammi Smith
got paid to help them adopt children illegally. I always wondered if she didnt have a bigger role in all of this beyond Baby Gabriel.
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:25 am

Wow! I just watched the video at this link again. Take a look at the expression on her face when she says "I will look for this baby for the rest of my life until he's found, even though it means bringing him back to Logan." She really does not want Logan to have baby Gabriel!

http://www.azfamily.com/home/related/Tammi-Smith-I-will-look-for-this-baby-for-the-rest-of-my-life-83436867.html
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Post by TerryRose Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:13 pm

Quote from the arrest documentary posted above in its entirety: " Tammi and Jack Smith have used the media to make many statements which later have been found to be inaccurate regarding their involvement in the investigation. "--------this proves once and for all what I have been trying to say about TS trying to manipulate the facts through interviews with NG and other media.

Withpurpose, thank you so much for posting the arrest documentary. It answers so many of our questions that we have been asking regarding the Smiths' involvement. Great post, thank you.
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:16 pm

I really hope TS does crack and comes clean with everything. However, my gut feeling is that she won't. Why talk if the charges against her could be more severe if LE discovers the whole story? Either she is guilty of bigger crimes or she is incredibly confident she will get out of this. I don't think TS is going to get LE any closer to finding Gabriel. I am extremely hopeful that the PI will locate baby Gabriel and bring him home safely. Fingers Crossed
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Post by artgal16 Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:33 pm

Thats a good point - what could those charges get her as far as a sentence? But it will destory her name and probably her business. Class four felonies - I havent had time to look it up - it seems to me that might just be fine and probation - shes got no record and she had a business and could be considered up to that point to be an upstanding citizen. Unless they could pin an accessory charge on her if they charge EJ with the murder of Gabriel. That would make her think about it!
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http://www.healingwatersaz.com/

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Tammi Fay Smith (owner of Healing Waters since 2004)
Advanced Certified Colon Hydrotherapist, IACT- certified

After 15 years experience in mainstream medicine, Tammi has switched gears into naturopathic medicine and homeopathic remedies. After a brush with death herself due to a clogged colon, she turned away from invasive procedures, surgeries and prescription drugs which caused her to become even more ill. Through naturopathic medicine Tammi learned to heal herself, and colon hydrotherapy played the largest role in her recovery. After numerous colon hydrotherapy treatments, on the Hydro San Plus machine, Tammi was finally healed of her so called diseases and illnesses.

Nearing the end of her illness, Tammi found herself at a crossroads in her life. She was thinking of giving up her career in the medical field since she no longer believed in surgeries and prescription drugs. Not to mention, she had lost respect for Western Medicine all together. During that time, she had read “The Purpose Driven Life”, by Rick Warren for the second time, and finally got it! So through a lot of prayer and alone time with God, she realized that this is what God’s Purpose was for her life! She chose to help others who are going through what she went through in order to help them feel better, by cleaning out their colon, their body, restoring their PH balance and by helping them have a better understanding of how to heal their own body through cleansing, diet and exercise.

Tammi started mentoring with the best of the best in colon therapy, because she strives for perfection. After about a year of mentoring with highly respected colon therapists from Tennessee, Arizona and Florida, Tammi opened her first Colon Hydrotherapy Clinic in Nashville, TN. November of 2004. Tammi then went on to further her education and got her first Certification in Colon Hydrotherapy at The American Institute of Natural Health of California.

Tammi was chosen to be News Channel 5’s Colon Health Expert in March of 2005. She gave advice on their web site through emails as well as televised spots on their morning talk show, Talk of the Town, until she decided to move back home to Arizona, July, 2007. (**Video Clip coming soon!**) By September of 2005, Tammi opened her second Colon Hydrotherapy Clinic with two colon rooms and a total body wellness center including Far Infrared Sauna, Migun massage bed, Ionic footbath, etc.

In April of 2007, Tammi received her Advanced Certification in Colon Hydrotherapy and Parasitology through The International School of Colon Hydro Therapy. As well as becoming a member of IACT (International Association of Colon Hydro Therapists) where they govern everything we do to make sure we’re doing the right things to help our clients, rather than hurt them. Through IACT, Tammi is always continuing her education in order to learn the newest techniques and to stay up on any new laws that arise in Colon therapy. In continuing her education with IACT, she has taken many classes and many exams to reach her advanced certified through IACT. She is currently continuing her education in order to become an IACT Colon Hydrotherapy Teacher. As well as finishing her Masters of Science Degree in Naturopathy.

In early 2007, due to the fact that the state of Tennessee doesn’t allow Naturopathic medicine, there wasn’t much that she could legally do to help others. Tammi decided to sell her company to one of her employees and move back to her home state of Arizona. Tammi is happy now to be helping people in her home state, and she was finally able to create a 100% family owned and operated Colon therapy clinic in order to have a loving, caring and Christian staff that her and her clients can fully trust. Tammi has personally trained each and every one of them and continues to mentor them daily through all her knowledge and experience, and through the grace of God! Tammi is hopeful to open her IACT Certified School at one of her newest locations in Scottsdale, Arizona this spring!
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Post by cherylz Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:08 pm

Oh, don't get me started. I am all for homeopathic/natural remedies, etc...as an adjunct to mainstream medicine. So many ppl turn to alternative treatments (only) with not so positive results. You have to be very knowledgeable and cautious!
This colon cleansing treatment is basically giving the client enemas to "rid" their bodies of toxins. Can be dangerous...can lead to dehydration, disruption in nl. PH levels, perforation. Not needed. Our bodies do a fine job at that themselves with proper diet, water and exercise. The occassional stool softener, laxative or enema-OTC Fleets...is fine. But enemas (they use saline enemas) can be dangerous! Her (TS) bowel was probally either blocked due to severe constipation, an obstruction or a twisted bowel.
And why is she bringing her religion into it..."staffed with Christians". Maybe to prey on people who may be at a weak time in their lives.
Only my opinion!! But , a "seedy" profession in my opinion. duct and run


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Post by artgal16 Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:09 pm

I think this "therapy" is one of the biggest scams
there is on the planet. read on!
Q: Tom, are you familar with cleansing programs? If so, what do you think of them? Is it true that when you lose weight from cleansing that you lose a lot of fat or is it just that you're losing water based on glycogen reduction because you're in a caloric deficit?

A: It's tough to address all "cleansing" programs in one short Q & A column because there are so many things that fall into this category and because the various programs, products and claims are often very different. Let me do my best though because I know this is a common question.

Just about everything that falls under the umbrella term of "cleansing" is pseudo science or scam, unless you consider increasing your fruit, vegetable and fiber intake from whole foods as "cleansing."

A fiber supplement might be useful in some circumstances, but the products you take that cause a mass of gunk to come out of you are a scam and I daresay, a blatant deception. The gunk only comes out of the people who take the product, because the gunk is created by the product!

There is also no evidence whatsoever that "cleansing" will increase the effectiveness of a diet that follows the cleanse. Any increase in fat loss during a "cleanse" can be attributed to a huge calorie deficit, and increases in weight loss can be attributed to the normal intestinal contents clearing out, and loss of water, glycogen or lean tissue.

The health and fat reduction claims made for cleansing diets and supplements are almost 100% anecdote and testimonial, fueled in large part, by aggressive multi-level marketers and alternative health practitioners.

"Cleansing" is often used as an intro to a diet program. Claims can include detoxification, internal cleansing and increased weight loss. What is generally achieved is a large drop in body weight, much of it water weight, and if that does anything positive, it's the psychological boost the dieter gets when they see a 4-7 pound drop on the scale in the first week or even a few days.

This kind of psychological boost could be considered a potential benefit, because some people give up easily with slow progress and are highly motivated with a fast start. But anyone who really understands body composition (lean body mass versus fat mass versus body water) and who has a long term perspective will not be all that excited about fast first week weight loss.

PLEASE NOTE: The contents of the digestive system add to your body weight. If you have fasted or done a light food or juice "cleanse" for any significant period of time, OF COURSE YOU WILL WEIGH LESS! And by the way, that's the normal contents of your digestive tract clearing out - not "icky stuff" that has been clinging to your insides for months or years.

Also, when you fast or go on a very low calorie "cleansing" protocol - you often generate a huge caloric deficit. A large caloric deficit will create a large weight loss. With a large enough caloric deficit, you can also get FAT loss that is above average (usually 1-2 lbs a week, but could easily be 3-3.5 lbs in a week with a big deficit). Combined with water weight, glycogen and lean tissue loss, (plus the clearing out of the contents of the digestive tract), the total body weight loss can be very large.

The trouble is, it's not possible to maintain such a large deficit for a prolonged period, so what you've achieved is merely a quick fix. Even if you achieved above average fat loss during this "induction" period, you will never be able to sustain it. Consistent, long term body weight/ body fat loss can rarely exceed 2 lbs per week or 1% of total body weight per week (ie, 3 lbs if you weigh 300 lbs) and weight lost beyond that is usually not body fat.

Not only are these approaches quick fixes, the word "cleansing" is totally unscientific and generally vague and undefined. Probably the most common definition refers to colon cleansing (also known as "internal cleansing"). Millions upon millions of people have been convinced that their gastrointestinal systems are all clogged up and bogged down no thanks to bogus advertisements for cleansing products and the preachings of evangelical supporters.

Colon cleansing is based on the idea that food sticks to your insides, becomes toxic and causes disease, obesity and "the end of civilization as we know it" (one would be led to think). Colon cleansing is pseudo science that goes back to the ancient Egyptians. It enjoyed a revival during the days of the turn of the 19th century patent medicines (remember "snake oil?") "Intestinal autointoxication" as it was once called, is one of the oldest ones in the book, and now its back in full force, especially on the internet, as these things run in cycles over the decades, once the current generation forgets that it was already debunked ages ago by the scientific community.

Now, if by "cleansing," someone is referring to simply "cleaning up your diet" by eating more fruits and veggies, of course I'm all for that, or if you mean "cleansing" by increasing your fiber intake, I'm all for that too. If someone really wants to take a fiber supplement like a psyllium based product, etc., that is certainly an option and it may very well help with a constipation issue. El cheapo brands from drug store or supermarket are just fine - no need to "blow" a lot of money (bad pun - a few people will get - intended). Just realize that the optimum solution is high fiber, natural foods, unless your doctor has advised you of some other course of action.

We have no scientific evidence that anything "sticks" to your insides and causes disease or body fat gain. We have no evidence that "cleansing" before a diet makes the diet work better afterwards. It's these claims, and use of scare tactics (photos of "pounds" of "gunk" that supposedly was sticking to your insides), more than anything that are way off base and unethical.

If you want even more proof that colon cleansing is a scam, ask a gastroenterologist who has done colonoscopies or even surgeries. Seriously, who would know better than someone who looks at the insides of colons on a regular basis? Ask a medical student or medical examiner - why don't autopsies routinely find clogged up intestines and colons in the deceased? (Especially folks who died of diseases supposedly caused by the alleged "clogged up, toxic system.")

Rather than pursue "colon cleansing" schemes, I'd recommend you call it maintaining "healthy digestive processes" which is extremely important. Fiber intake plays a major role. How is your regular daily fiber intake? Are you getting 25-35 grams of fiber a day, every day, consistently? (EVERY DAY?) If not, then why look for "magic in a bottle", why not just eat better?

There's such a tremendous urge and temptation to take a pill or drink a shake as a quick fix for what should be accomplished with daily nutrition habits. Dr. John Berardi calls it "daily detox" which simply means that you eat so nutritiously and conscientiously every day that you never even need to think about reaching for the "magic pills and potions." WHOLE FOOD and a healthy lifestyle do it best!

BEWARE of internet information!!! You'll get the most accurate info on this subject from the peer reviewed journals, scientific data bases (such as medline), medical specialists and scientists. Here are a few examples from the literature:

American Journal of Gastroenterology: 100(1) 232-42. 2005, mueller-lissner, et al. "Myths and misconceptions about chronic constipation

source: burnthefat.com
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Post by artgal16 Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:27 pm

Anyone that makes these claims to me is very suspicious because I believe they know its not effective. I dont understand how they can a license to operate these types of businesses.
There is always a new snake oil scam isnt there?
A little common sense would put a lot of these type of business out of business.
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:57 pm

Well, I've been keeping up with all the posts, and I am not quite sure what to think anymore. Although I can see that Tammi Smith does look suspicious... I still don't think she is involved in baby Gabriel's disappearance. She obviously was involved at one time, but I think EJ left the Smiths & went off on her own "adventure" with the baby... I believe that she is the only one (unless the baby was adopted out) that knows where Gabriel is!

For one thing, if she was involved in Gabriel's disappearance, why would she & her husband go on NG to talk about the case? It doesn't make sense to draw attention to themselves... they would be trying to hide! thinking
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Post by TerryRose Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:45 pm

cherylz wrote:Oh, don't get me started. I am all for homeopathic/natural remedies, etc...as an adjunct to mainstream medicine. So many ppl turn to alternative treatments (only) with not so positive results. You have to be very knowledgeable and cautious!
This colon cleansing treatment is basically giving the client enemas to "rid" their bodies of toxins. Can be dangerous...can lead to dehydration, disruption in nl. PH levels, perforation. Not needed. Our bodies do a fine job at that themselves with proper diet, water and exercise. The occassional stool softener, laxative or enema-OTC Fleets...is fine. But enemas (they use saline enemas) can be dangerous! Her (TS) bowel was probally either blocked due to severe constipation, an obstruction or a twisted bowel.
And why is she bringing her religion into it..."staffed with Christians". Maybe to prey on people who may be at a weak time in their lives.
Only my opinion!! But , a "seedy" profession in my opinion. duct and run

I so totally agree with you, Cherylz!!!!! I was careful to note that the claims of TS being involved in the medical profession all those years before branching off into this colon cleansing were all so very vague, only the astute reader can spot the lack of any certified or licensed profession in her resume. She could have been in the housekeeping department of a major hospital, mopping the floors, for all the reader can derive from that resume! Cleansing might have its place, but not as a cure-all regular procedure for good health or weight loss. One can do safe cleansing with the guidance of one's doctor or pharmacist, but this is not the issue here.-------the issue is her past and her honesty. The resume is purposefully deceptive as are all her interviews in the media.

I make no excuses for EJ here, but there is something I would like to have an answer to: I view EJ as a confused, vulnerable young mother with no support systems in her life, meeting up with a mother-figure at a dark time in her life. Putting all her trust in this new acquaintance, it isn't long before she starts to obey this woman and do as this woman is telling her to do. My big question is why did EJ leave the baby in the Smiths' care, then turn around and file charges of kidnapping against the Smiths? What does this tell us? Maybe TS put pressures upon this young confused mother and easily got possession of her baby. Then EJ starts to think it over, tries to get her baby back but they refuse to hand him over, so she files a kidnapping charge against them. Then she drops the charge, probably also because of TS's manipulation of her. She continues to obey her instructions. TS starts to look like the mastermind of this whole thing to me. TS probably knows more about the whereabouts of Gabriel---IF he is alive----than EJ does. I just want to know more about how GJ came to be in their custody, why EJ filed kidnapping charges, why she dropped the charges, and what all TS was instructing EJ to do.

(The babysitter was witness to such a call, by the way, where EJ asked what she wants her to do---Go back? Then, EJ apologized to the sitter, said it was her Grandma, and explained that the bio-dad is threatening her because of a bitter custody battle. It was not her Grandma, guess who it must have been?)
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Post by cherylz Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:52 pm

Yep, Terryrose. I do believe that TS has more to do with this case. It was very strange how they went on NG and "told all". More to it than meets the eye. And it looks like her past is coming back to haunt her. My big ? about her past is why she does not have custody of her own children? Seedy lady. :shock:
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:11 pm

Tammy Smith has become TS. :lol!:
EJ is ill and I am sure TS took advantage of that to get her hands on beautiful little Gabriel. Now an illegal adoption ring TS might be involved in helping EJ with this. But if EJ killed him no way did TS tell her to kill him. If EJ snapped when and if things fell apart with an illegal adoption she might very well have killed Gabriel.
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:27 pm

cherylz wrote:Yep, Terryrose. I do believe that TS has more to do with this case. It was very strange how they went on NG and "told all". More to it than meets the eye. And it looks like her past is coming back to haunt her. My big ? about her past is why she does not have custody of her own children? Seedy lady. :shock:

In the arrest document for prior arrests it has: "Arrest in So. Chalmett, LA for Criminal Neglect of Family, Disturbing the Peace, Simple Battery". I wonder if this has anything to do with her losing her children. Would love to know more about that situation.
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:44 pm

cherylz wrote:Withpurpose...do you know what criminal neglect of family would mean?
I'm not exactly sure. I was wondering the same thing and started searching. I've posted the link to the actual law below, but that still isn't fully clear. My interpretation is criminal neglect of family means about the same thing as child neglect (whether medical, nutritional, educational, etc), but has an additional financial component.

Louisiana Criminal neglect of family law
LA R.S. 14:74A. (1) Criminal neglect of family is the desertion or intentional nonsupport:

http://www.babcockfirm.com/statutes/lacriminal.html
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:51 pm

TerryRose wrote: My big question is why did EJ leave the baby in the Smiths' care, then turn around and file charges of kidnapping against the Smiths? What does this tell us? Maybe TS put pressures upon this young confused mother and easily got possession of her baby. Then EJ starts to think it over, tries to get her baby back but they refuse to hand him over, so she files a kidnapping charge against them. Then she drops the charge, probably also because of TS's manipulation of her. She continues to obey her instructions. TS starts to look like the mastermind of this whole thing to me. TS probably knows more about the whereabouts of Gabriel---IF he is alive----than EJ does. I just want to know more about how GJ came to be in their custody, why EJ filed kidnapping charges, why she dropped the charges, and what all TS was instructing EJ to do.

TerryRose, if I remember correctly, EJ had accused Logan of kidnapping Gabriel (to try to get him in trouble?), but then Gabriel was found at the Smith's and EJ was charged with filing a fictitious report with LE. There's so much with this whole convoluted ordeal that I may be thinking of another situation, but I don't think she ever accused TS of kidnapping.
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:10 pm

Rainbow wrote:Well, I've been keeping up with all the posts, and I am not quite sure what to think anymore. Although I can see that Tammi Smith does look suspicious... I still don't think she is involved in baby Gabriel's disappearance. She obviously was involved at one time, but I think EJ left the Smiths & went off on her own "adventure" with the baby... I believe that she is the only one (unless the baby was adopted out) that knows where Gabriel is!

For one thing, if she was involved in Gabriel's disappearance, why would she & her husband go on NG to talk about the case? It doesn't make sense to draw attention to themselves... they would be trying to hide! thinking

In their place would you go on Nancy Grace? I know I would not. Right in the spot light of this tragedy is the Smiths. Rainbow I like your post and am glad to hear your following this thread.
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Post by TerryRose Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:24 pm

lm wrote "In their place would you go on Nancy Grace? I know I would not."

They always seem to be taking pre-emptive or proactive action against facts that they know will soon surface, so they go on TV before that happens so they can twist those facts to suit themselves and make themselves look more innocent. LE has proven much of what they have said in the media interviews to be false. I believe they call that behavior "manipulative".
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Post by TerryRose Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:35 pm

Withpurpose, this is the part that had me confused, and I construed it to mean that EJ reported Jack and Tammi had kidnapped Gabriel. It is not worded very exactly and I probably misconstrued----From the arrest documents on previous page at the top of the list:

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"On 12/27/09, Tempe Police made contact with Tammi Smith due to an incident which occurred on 12/09/09 when Gabriel Johnson was found to be in the care of the Smith's. On 12/09/09, Elizabeth Johnson made a false report of kidnapping which allegedly occurred against Gabriel. On 12/09/09, T.P.D. Officers found Gabriel in the care of Tammi and Jack Smith. On 12/09/09, The Smith's disclosed their desire to adopt Gabriel Johnson to T.P.D. At the conclusion of the investigation on 12/09/09, Elizabeth was arrested for False Reporting to L.E. Due to this incident,------- "
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:50 pm

Ok, I think I found some clarification on EJ's accusation that Gabriel was kidnapped.

"...In another incident, Johnson later hid Gabriel but accused McQueary of taking him, according to a request for custody of the child McQueary filed with the Maricopa County Superior Court on Dec. 14. The baby was found hours later at the home of one of Johnson’s friends after police conducted a search for him..."

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/149100
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Post by TerryRose Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:52 pm

Thanks, Withpurpose, it all sounds so strange---cannot understand the goings on there.
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lindamarie wrote:In their place would you go on Nancy Grace? I know I would not. Right in the spot light of this tragedy is the Smiths. Rainbow I like your post and am glad to hear your following this thread.

Thanks lindamarie! If I was the one responsible for baby Gabriel's disappearance, I know that I would definitely NOT be going on Nancy Grace and calling attention to myself!! :headbashing:
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Post by CritterFan1 Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:11 am

RE: NG, the Smiths thought they could get away with their stories, you could tell on NG they thought they were really something, TS almost seemed giddy. It was like they were in on their own private joke and none of us knew it.
Re: colon cleansing. Audrey Hepburn was a big believer, prob how she stayed so thin, that and genetics. She DIED from colon cancer so a lot of good the cleansing did her. IMO it is a scam.
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Post by TerryRose Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:38 am

CritterFan1 wrote:RE: NG, the Smiths thought they could get away with their stories, you could tell on NG they thought they were really something, TS almost seemed giddy. It was like they were in on their own private joke and none of us knew it.
Re: colon cleansing. Audrey Hepburn was a big believer, prob how she stayed so thin, that and genetics. She DIED from colon cancer so a lot of good the cleansing did her. IMO it is a scam.

Great points you make, Critter!
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Post by Nama Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:46 am

Tammi Smith appeared tired and disheveled as she walked out of jail just before the sun came up on Wednesday morning. With her husband Jack there to pick her up Smith had a few choice words before heading home, "We are going to tear them apart, I'm not, my attorney is going to tear them apart," said Smith, referring to the Tempe Police Department.

The arrest is not the first for Smith. 12 News uncovered court records from Louisiana that show Smith was charged with forgery, simple battery and disturbing the peace.

Smith is expected to meet with her attorney on Thursday to discuss the charges.

http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/2010/02/03/20100203smitharrest02032010-CR.html

Does anyone know anything about the charges in Louisiana?
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Post by Guest Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:00 am

I have changed my Avatar to one that the "Bring Gabriel Home" facebook group developed to assist in finding him. Last night I joined this facebook group which provides some details on what everyone is doing to help find Baby Gabriel. It was developed to help in the search for Gabriel as well as a place to provide support and encouragement to Logan and his family. In addition it includes some discussions between some of the members regarding TS.

This "group" has encouraged all members to change their avatar to a picture of Gabriel (any of the pics). They have also asked members to assist in getting the word out by recommending the site to their friends and encouraging their friends to do the same. I have sent a recommendation to all my facebook friends to join the group and join in the quest to bring Baby Gabriel Home. Although I probably shouldn't be, I am surprised by the overwhelming number of my facebook friends that have already joined this group in the short time since I sent the recommendation last night.

I've continued to be surprised that despite all the media attention nationwide regarding this case, how many people are still unaware. As are Logan's friends and family that started the page, I am hopeful that using current social media will assist in finding Gabriel. At least it's another tool to get the word out. If you have a facebook page and haven't already joined, I encourage you to do so. If you don't have a facebook page, consider it. For me, it's been a wonderful way to keep up on the lives of so many friends and family that I rarely have the chance to see. ❤
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Post by Nama Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:02 am

Tammi Smith Hires Death-Penalty-Case Attorney Michael Kimerer
Full story: Associated Content
Jack and Tammi Smith have hired heavy-duty lawyer Michael D. Kimerer to represent them for their involvement in the case of missing Baby Gabriel.

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:http://www.topix.com/city/tempe-az/2010/02/tammi-smith-hires-death-penalty-case-attorney-michael-kimerer
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Post by Nama Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:06 am

I found something about Tammi and Louisiana....

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Tammi Smith. Mugshot, Tempe Police Dept. February 2, 2010.

Tammi Smith already has a criminal history that includes forgery. Tammi Smith, née Tammy Fay(e) Peters, is on a Louisiana Non-Custodial Parent Delinquency list for $759.99 dated January 12, 2010 as Tammi Facio— her name when wed to Keith Facio of Louisiana. She gave him custody of their three children (now teenagers). Tammi Smith has married a few times and used the names Trahan, Riddle, and Peters. She has spelled Tammi as Tammy and has spelled her middle name as Faye or Fay.

Past crimes of Tammi Smith were Failure to Maintain Control (1994); Forgery (1998); Simple Battery and Disturbing the Peace/ Offensive Language (2001). These crimes discredit her credibility in what she tells the police and news media about missing baby Gabriel Johnson.

Before baby Gabriel, Jack and Tammi Smith were trying to adopt a boy through Agape Adoption, Agency of Arizona, Inc. But the mother asked for more money, which might have made the pending adoption illegal.

In September of 2007, the Tennessee Board of Medical Examiners learned that 'Tammy Faye Smith' had been practicing colon hydrotherapy for 15-plus months without a license , in violation of the Medical Practice Act. A Consent Order stated that Smith must 'cease and desist from practicing all aspects of naturopathy, including, specifically the use of hydrotherapy, massage and administration of botanical and biological drugs'. Smith is however certified in Arizona. She trained and was certified by The International Association of Colon Hydrotherapists, which is just one block from the hotel in San Antonio where Johnson hid Baby Gabriel.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2659965/tammi_smith_arrested_in_baby_gabriel_pg2.html?cat=17
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Post by Guest Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:15 am

Thanks BJ! This woman just really gets under my skin--so manipulative. She seems to think she is justified in all her actions. She also appears to think she is untouchable. Oh, how I can't wait for that woman to be sentenced to years behind bars. I'm still curious to know what her 3 children think of this whole situation. I would assume the media has attempted to contact them. Although Logan has a bit of a disturbing past, I have been impressed with how he has handled this whole thing...especially in response to all that TS has said and done. That demonstrates a level of maturity that I didn't expect to see from Logan. Under the same circumstances, I don't think I would handle her in as dignified manner as he has.
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Post by TerryRose Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:16 am

"She trained and was certified by The International Association of Colon Hydrotherapists, which is just one block from the hotel in San Antonio where Johnson hid Baby Gabriel"----------Coincidence? I don't think so.
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Post by Nama Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:20 am

This is an interesting site......there is a comment from someone claiming to be Tammi's ex husband. Check it out.
I’m Tammi Fay Smith’s X husband thank god. I am the husband that as she said abused her. Well I guess you know that is a pack of lies. I did fight Tammi and her 3 or 4 husbands after me, for my kids rights to live a normal life. I won… And so did my children. Tammi finely gave up when she met jack and his friend (cash). She paid for my new wife to adopt them, and she did not talk to them for some years. Tammi is trying to fill in a hole in her life ware my kids were put out by her. Well i can go on forever but for now i hope they find that baby and keep those smiths away from any kids.. My children finally see how she really is. I will try to write more latter thanks
http://johnhgohdecommentator.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/omissions-jack-tammi-smith/
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Post by TerryRose Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:21 am

WithPurpose wrote:Thanks BJ! This woman just really gets under my skin--so manipulative. She seems to think she is justified in all her actions. She also appears to think she is untouchable. Oh, how I can't wait for that woman to be sentenced to years behind bars. I'm still curious to know what her 3 children think of this whole situation. I would assume the media has attempted to contact them. Although Logan has a bit of a disturbing past, I have been impressed with how he has handled this whole thing...especially in response to all that TS has said and done. That demonstrates a level of maturity that I didn't expect to see from Logan. Under the same circumstances, I don't think I would handle her in as dignified manner as he has.

On another blog attached to one of the links up-thread, someone wrote that he is a son of a cop. If this be true, it could explain why he holds in what he knows because he is letting the LE do their thing and probably knows that they will take care of TS for him----he doesn't have to be bothered with her, nor does he want to jeopardize any case they are building against this woman by saying anything publicly. JMO.
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Post by TerryRose Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:23 am

BJ in OR wrote:This is an interesting site......there is a comment from someone claiming to be Tammi's ex husband. Check it out.
I’m Tammi Fay Smith’s X husband thank god. I am the husband that as she said abused her. Well I guess you know that is a pack of lies. I did fight Tammi and her 3 or 4 husbands after me, for my kids rights to live a normal life. I won… And so did my children. Tammi finely gave up when she met jack and his friend (cash). She paid for my new wife to adopt them, and she did not talk to them for some years. Tammi is trying to fill in a hole in her life ware my kids were put out by her. Well i can go on forever but for now i hope they find that baby and keep those smiths away from any kids.. My children finally see how she really is. I will try to write more latter thanks
http://johnhgohdecommentator.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/omissions-jack-tammi-smith/

WOW!
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Post by Guest Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:26 am

TerryRose wrote:"She trained and was certified by The International Association of Colon Hydrotherapists, which is just one block from the hotel in San Antonio where Johnson hid Baby Gabriel"----------Coincidence? I don't think so.

I agree TS is a devious, manipulative, lying witch! The only things that come out of her mouth are lies and half truths. "Hey, TS, no one is listening to your crap!" la la la Am I beginning to sound bitter?
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BJ in OR wrote:This is an interesting site......there is a comment from someone claiming to be Tammi's ex husband. Check it out.
I’m Tammi Fay Smith’s X husband thank god. I am the husband that as she said abused her. Well I guess you know that is a pack of lies. I did fight Tammi and her 3 or 4 husbands after me, for my kids rights to live a normal life. I won… And so did my children. Tammi finely gave up when she met jack and his friend (cash). She paid for my new wife to adopt them, and she did not talk to them for some years. Tammi is trying to fill in a hole in her life ware my kids were put out by her. Well i can go on forever but for now i hope they find that baby and keep those smiths away from any kids.. My children finally see how she really is. I will try to write more latter thanks
http://johnhgohdecommentator.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/omissions-jack-tammi-smith/

BJ, You are on a role! You Go Girl Thanks for finding and sharing all this!
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Post by TerryRose Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:29 am

WithPurpose wrote:
TerryRose wrote:"She trained and was certified by The International Association of Colon Hydrotherapists, which is just one block from the hotel in San Antonio where Johnson hid Baby Gabriel"----------Coincidence? I don't think so.

I agree TS is a devious, manipulative, lying witch! The only things that come out of her mouth are lies and half truths. "Hey, TS, no one is listening to your crap!" la la la Am I beginning to sound bitter?

I wonder if Nancy G. is still "listening to your crap"?
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Post by mommyof3kids Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:40 am

Ha Ha! I knew TS was a lier and deviant person from the Get GO! She is finally getting caught up in her web of LIES! I hope having her behind bars, will help find Baby Gabriel. I do still hold onto hope that he is out there somewhere, ALIVE and with this couple, who probably has him dressed in girl clothes.
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Post by Nama Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:45 am

Tammi Smith and her husband Jack Smith, 56, have one adopted daughter, Hannah Grace, who is four-and-a-half years old. Hannah was his grandchild. Her biological father is Jack's stepson Travis Andrews Warford. Jack Smith told CNN, "We— you know, we got Hannah in our house at four months old and the adoption wasn't final until two— until she was two." Mr. Warford claims that Jack and Tammi Smith offered him money to sign over his custodial rights. He says regarding the Smiths and baby Gabriel, "I think what they've done is wrong. They've manipulated the system and lied and I wouldn't mind seeing them face charges."

Jack and Tammi Smith each have children from previous marriages. Tammi gave up custody of her three offspring to the father, Kieth Facio and his new wife. She said in an Internet post, "As all I ever wanted since I was a little girl was to have lots of kids to love. I am so happy to have all 4 kids in my life as well as all my kids in Africa." The '4 kids' refer to her adopted daughter and her purported reconnection with her three older children— Gabrielle Victoria, Cody, and Emily. 'My kids in Africa' refers to her work with Children Without a Voice USA. Tammi promised to tell the full story in a book called The Silenced. It is not yet published and perhaps is not yet finished.

The Smiths had used to reside in Nashville, Tennessee where sightings of baby Gabriel Johnson have been reported since some time after December 27, 2009 when he was reported missing. Jack Smith lived there for about thirty-five years and has close family there, including two sons. He played the steel guitar for the Happy Goodmans and for country-western star Bill Anderson on shows at the Grand Ole Opry. He owned the now-defunct Tape and Disc Factory. At present, he is a real estate agent.

A connection exists between Tammi Smith and Janet Morris of The Adoption Place located in Mount Juliet, Tennessee. Court documents show that Morris has on occasion discredited a biological father— including Jack Smith's stepson Warford, who in his case was not informed of the court date and so the court penalized the discredited no-show with loss of child custody. The police know that Tammi Smith did connect Elizabeth with Janet Morris. Did Elizabeth give baby Gabriel to representatives of The Adoption Place, who then took baby Gabriel to Tennessee from Texas? Tammi posted on Facebook, "Please keep praying for Gabriel and his mommy's safety on the road! She found an underground help in TX that has given her formula/ diapers, Etc. and all the legal formalities... Keep praying for his safety!!!!!!"

Tammi Smith was searching for surrogate moms. Here are a few postings from Surrogate Mother dotcom.
At 1:05pm on November 15, 2008, Tammi Smith said...
Hi Jennifer, We are looking for a traditional surrogacy. Are you up for that? We live in Arizona and have a 3 1/2-year-old daughter. We adopted her at 4 months old. We want another child desperately and she really wants a sibling. You can call us at (xxx) xxx-xxxx or email me at xxxx@xxxx.xxx. Thank you and God Bless, Tammi.

At 11:58pm on November 15, 2008, Tammi Smith said...
Would you like to send me your phone number so I can call you, or you can call me at (xxx) xxx-xxxx. And how does your boyfriend feel about this? Also, have you ever had any children before? Thanks so much, can't wait to talk over the phone!

At 10:25am on November 19, 2008, Tammi Smith said...
Thanks Jennifer for getting back with me. We have a few surrogates in mind, but I would like to talk to you as well, so as soon as you get a phone, please call me. Also, if you are willing to travel that would be awesome! You could live with us [for] most of the pregnancy!


Reply by Tammi Smith on November 21, 2008 at 1:40am
Are you willing to do a TS? What state do you live in? We have been looking for a while!!! My 3 year old daughter is getting very antsy wondering when her new baby sister or brother will come, lol... I do missions in Africa but they won't let anyone outside Africa to adopt! So we are going the surrogate route since I had an emergency hysterectomy about 10 years ago (age 26).

Among her 1,700+ Facebook (FB) friends, Tammi Smith has teenage students from each of about twenty-five highs schools. A few of her friends are staff members at Christ's Church of the Valley in Peoria Arizona, which has the program Teen Moms Becoming 'for pregnant and parenting teens moms up to age 21 to meet'. That numerous FB connections are to teenagers and potential teen pregnancies may or may not be incidental and innocent. But her connection with Elizabeth seems shady.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2581663/missing_baby_gabriel_johnson_tammi.html?cat=41
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Post by Wrapitup Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:30 pm

Wow, BJ...you have hit the ball right out of the park on the above posts!!!!!!!!!!!

Even though TS is out of jail, she still has to go to court. It's not over until :trampoline: sings.
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Post by Guest Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:59 am

Attorney Silences Tammi Smith
Smith Wanted To Adopt Missing Baby Gabriel
Donna Rossi
Reporter, KPHO.com


POSTED: 6:20 pm MST February 4, 2010
UPDATED: 6:50 am MST February 5, 2010

PHOENIX -- For weeks Tammi Smith has been speaking freely and at length on local and national TV about missing baby Gabriel Johnson. But Thursday after a three-hour meeting with her attorney, Smith had very little to say and made only a short statement.

"Please understand that I just can't be giving a lot of statements right now as to specifics. But we are very confident in the defense that we have going on right now," said Smith outside attorney Michael Kimerer's office.

Smith went on to say that she has been willing to talk with media because she knows that helps keep the story alive and her goal is to keep Gabriel's face and name in the news in hopes of finding him.

Smith was arrested Tuesday by Tempe police who believe she helped Gabriel's mom, Elizabeth Johnson, keep the boy from his father who shares custody. She was charged Wednesday with one count of custodial interference and one count of forgery. The forgery charge stems from her alleged falsification of Johnson's custody papers.

Smith is out on bond. Her next court appearance is set for Feb. 8.

http://www.kpho.com/news/22469189/detail.html?treets=pho&tid=26511763111813&tml=pho_7am&tmi=pho_7am_1_08000202052010&ts=H


Somehow, I can't see Smith "being quiet"
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Post by TerryRose Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:11 am

She was told by her attorney to keep quiet before, and within that same 24 hours, she was on NG yacking it up bigtime. Aw, too bad, she can no longer twist the facts and news in this case anymore-----aw, what a shame!
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Post by Guest Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:22 am

Hello,

If you haven't already, if you have a Facebook account, you can join on as a friend to "Bring Home Gabriel Johnson." That is an account Logan's family created to try to get tips and such. It is also a communication forum, and up to the minute on what is going on. It's cool, b/c like this site, there are very resourceful people on it who post links that we didn't even know were out there.

Plus, you can get flyers and such on there to spread the word and get more of the public to be on the lookout of Gabriel.

Hugs!

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Post by Nama Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:06 pm

On Saturday, San Antonio police announced that the case of missing 9-month-old Arizona boy, Gabriel Johnson, is now officially a homicide investigation.
Nonetheless, San Antonio Police Chief William McManus said the move is purely procedural and authorities hope the boy is found alive.

“There have been numerous leads that we continue to follow up that hopefully could lead us to Baby Gabriel,” McManus told AZ Family. “We’re not 100 percent certain that they will pan out. We are going to search that landfill. The question becomes, ‘Why are you searching that landfill if this is a missing persons case?’ So, all hope are that we would find the baby alive, but we are going to proceed with the murder investigation.”

A search of the San Antonio landfill is expected to begin as soon as the weather permits, according to AZ Family.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2010m2d6-Gabriel-Johnson-case-now-officially-a-homicide-according-to-San-Antonio-police-video
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Post by Nama Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:09 pm

According to police, there is information that Baby Gabriel, who was last seen in San Antonio the day after Christmas, was murdered and dumped in a landfill.
SAPD said the section of the Allied Waste Landfill on the east side of town has been closed off . They will begin an active search in that area for the body.
Police Chief William McManus said that although they still hope to find the baby alive, for now the case will be treated as a murder investigation.
Homicide detectives have been assigned to the case.

http://www.kens5.com/home/bab-83722477.html
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Post by jeanne1807 Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:59 am

I have thought from the beginning she killed that little baby boy. That is why she refuses to talk. If she knew where he was she would be singing like a bird to be released from jail.

Mothers who kill? What a world.
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Post by Guest Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:03 am

I am not surprised either. Looks like EJ is going to be charged with murder. I would bet LE has found something that changed this from a missing case to a homicide.
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Post by Wrapitup Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:45 am

They took way, way too long to decide this just may be a homicide case when EJ literally texted Logan and told him she killed the baby. Those landfills should have been searched over a month ago. Even if she didn't kill him, they should have searched the landfills just to rule it out.
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Post by laga Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:01 am

I think I read somewhere that LE identified and secured the landfills where trash was dumped from the areas she was in. Does anyone else remember that? I hope they did at least that much, but I agree, I think they should have searched immediately, as Wrap says, just to rule it out.
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